Indeed! We need new and better systems. But we wont get them for free from the criminals in power... matter of fact we wont get anything except less freedom if shit continues to go as they want it to.
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4 posts
+23 votes
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patience
governments take out smart contracts on people
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patience
governments take out smart contracts on people
and our government ID is the key. wherever we operate on the blockchain we call society we are subject to the constraints of this involuntary contract.
short term freedom for an individual requires a new key, long term freedom for all of us requires a choice of new blockchains.
short term freedom for an individual requires a new key, long term freedom for all of us requires a choice of new blockchains.
violence and pilgrimage are the only true paths remaining. pilgrimage is more sustainable.
7 posts
+21 votes
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rajrodger
Are We Living in a Computer Simulation?
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rajrodger
Are We Living in a Computer Simulation?
Oxford philosopher Nick Bostrum: "members of an advanced civilization with enormous computing power might decide to run simulations of their ancestors. They would probably have the ability to run many, many such simulations, to the point where the vast majority of minds would actually be artificial ones within such simulations, rather than the original ancestral minds. So simple statistics suggest it is much more likely that we are among the simulated minds."
All is revealed when you dose up on the dmt research chemical or plants/bark etc....and the people that have...know .... and those that do not partake in such chemicals or natural dmt, are still asking the questions. Simply put ... dmt shows you whats really going on. In my experience and understanding and many years navigating this 'life'. :)
Had a similar experience on LSD, the whole universe suddenly 'made sense'. Haven't been able to recreate it since, though the spirituality of shrooms always keeps one closer to reality.
Yes we are. it's all Computer tech on the whole realms and inter dimensions. We're literally a sims game for a kid on a diff dimension. This tech soon to be hi jacked again and onto new tech. another new VR world in different vehicles. not this body as a vehicle in time.. lol
7 posts
+23 votes
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Katy
What does it mean to be human?
We define our own self/energy… and energy is forever 💫
Or have I just smoked too much already this evening… 😂
Or have I just smoked too much already this evening… 😂
I just asked my dog (see picture) what it means NOT to be human and she started licking her fanny. I think that says it all….😏
Love
Love for others, love for yourself and accepting that you are not without faults
Compassion and humility.
Being thankful every day for being alive, fit and healthy, you and your loved ones .
Walking a mile in someone else’s shoes, helping others where you can selflessly and without ego
Respecting the universe and the natural world around you.
Life’s so short, we only pass this way once.
From an old soak who’s seen the worst of humanity, and the best…..
Love for others, love for yourself and accepting that you are not without faults
Compassion and humility.
Being thankful every day for being alive, fit and healthy, you and your loved ones .
Walking a mile in someone else’s shoes, helping others where you can selflessly and without ego
Respecting the universe and the natural world around you.
Life’s so short, we only pass this way once.
From an old soak who’s seen the worst of humanity, and the best…..
Love is the trap component in this realm alongside time... What is actually love? Its the truth of love and that;s all crazy to. So this realm and love / time traps are huge factors pushed and used to trap people even more. The higher realms do not have Love components and it's not a trap. it's for ever love. This realms 'Love' is all made up. Magick to control. cause wars. Why they let Love be pushed in songs and stuff. There's different isights and distortion of truth of love on this realm to makes it physical matter realm. which is false.
4 posts
+13 votes
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julieh
are you the same person throughout your life?
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julieh
are you the same person throughout your life?
they say that our cells renew constantly and so our meatbag is not the same bunch of cells we were born with. i wonder if it changes your thoughts and perceptions too? and i wonder if you stay in one place does it change mildly cos new cells are created un the same environment and if you've lived in loads of places do those different environment affect the cells as they renew. And does this physical change also impact how we think and feel? I'm so entirely a different person as a kid, teen, pretty much every decade - but then I move around a lot - different food, air, water, society. Anyway that's one of my many stoned thoughts this evening thanks to super hans hindu kush - https://littlebiggy.org/link/PNEzCh
Hehe…hindu kush working it’s stuff there👍🔥❤️
For my tuppence worth, I believe our consciousness of self is our only constant…it might be a weird overloaded neural dump (as some of brilliance believe) that has never got close to being understood, but it’s…us…😍
For my tuppence worth, I believe our consciousness of self is our only constant…it might be a weird overloaded neural dump (as some of brilliance believe) that has never got close to being understood, but it’s…us…😍
We are what we carry and we were what we left behind. What will be will be. Rinse and repeat.
I'm completely different to who I used to be. For me it seems to come down to life experiences and the company we keep. I sometimes wish I could go back to being the old me, but it would only lead to unhappiness.
4 posts
+31 votes
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weJamin
Seal was wrong, our craziness is our biggest threat to survival
yes they are serious as hell, have you ever seen a seal fumble the beach ball trick? it's insane they're bitchy for like a week.
27 posts
+124.5 votes
best term for non-stoners?
best term for non-stoners?
i am creatively paralysed until someone can help me out on this
Is there a need for that? Both can co-exist without making the other the bad one.
Everyone should just do what they like.
The issue that i am more concerned with is that those who consume aren't treated the same. Even in many so called legal areas social acceptance is still far from what it is let's say towards tobacco, alcohol, video games or social media addictions.
But anyways, bless the non-stroners - more goodness for us.
:)
Everyone should just do what they like.
The issue that i am more concerned with is that those who consume aren't treated the same. Even in many so called legal areas social acceptance is still far from what it is let's say towards tobacco, alcohol, video games or social media addictions.
But anyways, bless the non-stroners - more goodness for us.
:)
I dnt think we need a name, im happy being the one with the names like stoner and pot head as it just shows how weak minded people are. Haters is a good fit though.
Didn't the Ismailites try this - Hassan I Sabah and co? - a ruthless and effective violent force - and stoned out of their gourds. From them we get the term Hashashin or Assassin
That's a good idea. Especially if its strong stuff and they would need a good unlimited supply......
I grew up on Germany as my Dad was in the forces there during the cold War. The American forces personnel used to have a smoke to help relieve stress. They got it very very cheaply sort of legitimately as it was shipped to the them (not sure from where), but America shipped out whiskey and beer free of charge to the American troops .
I grew up on Germany as my Dad was in the forces there during the cold War. The American forces personnel used to have a smoke to help relieve stress. They got it very very cheaply sort of legitimately as it was shipped to the them (not sure from where), but America shipped out whiskey and beer free of charge to the American troops .
As long as you dont give anyone the choice... Build huge bonfires in warehouses and tell the locals attendance is compulsory
7 posts
+28 votes
Hearting a Song Marginalizes My Love
Hearting a Song Marginalizes My Love
Cause it's really only saving the song. Shit you really love is the same as something you just wanna save/train the algo.
3 posts
+16 votes
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ike
satoshi is an ai from the future
17 posts
+45 votes
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KickAss420
creativity. weed vs alcohol
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KickAss420
creativity. weed vs alcohol
weed genuinely improves creative thinking and ideas (I used to think it was hippy bullshit if I read that).
you can have some great ideas with weed. just remember to note them down and not tell yourself you can remember.. a few minutes is usually enough to forget.
alcohol on the other hand.. quite literally shutting down the functioning part of your brain. so what you think is genius after several pints is nearly always the ramblings of an idiot when the blood returns to your brain.
it's no wonder society is becoming more brain dead every generation when we celebrate the latter but punish the former. cheers.
you can have some great ideas with weed. just remember to note them down and not tell yourself you can remember.. a few minutes is usually enough to forget.
alcohol on the other hand.. quite literally shutting down the functioning part of your brain. so what you think is genius after several pints is nearly always the ramblings of an idiot when the blood returns to your brain.
it's no wonder society is becoming more brain dead every generation when we celebrate the latter but punish the former. cheers.
100% Alcohol can wreck lives, I've been witness to that first hand. Peace, love and Cannabis :-)
Yaassss kweeeeen! (Suuuuch a huge fan of drag race / drag in general.... makes me so happy!!)
always amazed at how many great minds especially writers were drunks. if only cannabis culture prevailed who knows where we would be today
Not to go about the grain as I like both. I am about 300% more productive making music drunk, compared to stoned. But then the music is about 300% more enjoyable stoned afterwards.
But I cannot make shit if I'm stoned. At all. So yeah, I disagree. Good stuff though.
But I cannot make shit if I'm stoned. At all. So yeah, I disagree. Good stuff though.
Ignore this if you’ve already tried it, but have you tried some of the stronger sativa strains? They can make you super productive and creative at the same time. My faves for this are blue cheese and wedding cake. I haven’t tried loads of strains but of the ones I have tried- these seem to work best (for me anyway!) Happy New Yurrr
Speaking for myself. Cannabinoids and ethanol can achieve more psychedelic effects together than each on their own. It's truly amazing, how trippy it can get, as far as not too much alcohol is taken. Ideally have a beer or little wine, but no shots.
I find certain strains great for creativity- especially blue cheese, wedding cake and fat banana! It’s weird though... I am a reasonably creative person but I have ADHD and cognitive dyslexia, so I have tonnes of ideas flitting in and out of my head all the time, but rarely write them down because I’m doing doing like 20 things. Weed seems to slow things down enough for me to focus on one idea so I can work on it.
Alcohol just gives me a huge red bumpy rash on my face and elbows (weird I know), makes me feel ill instantly, and then I just fall asleep.
BORING
Alcohol just gives me a huge red bumpy rash on my face and elbows (weird I know), makes me feel ill instantly, and then I just fall asleep.
BORING
My experience: neither makes me come up with better ideas, just more of them.
On balance most my drunk/high ideas are dumb. But occasionally they’re amazing, things I’d probably not thought of otherwise. I think I get more good/creative ideas with weed.
But I think the disparity comes from the real difference—kinds of connections I make. Weed seems to expand the world and I make new connections between different things(e.g. my mom went deaf, but if she was born death would she still think in english?).
Alcohol is more about unfiltered id and forgetting about consequences(could I stick my dick in the vacuum hole?).
Both ideas are kinda dumb but the weed idea (for me) at least made think about what my mom’s life is like day to day. The alcohol idea just made me think about how I was going to explain this to a doctor.
On balance most my drunk/high ideas are dumb. But occasionally they’re amazing, things I’d probably not thought of otherwise. I think I get more good/creative ideas with weed.
But I think the disparity comes from the real difference—kinds of connections I make. Weed seems to expand the world and I make new connections between different things(e.g. my mom went deaf, but if she was born death would she still think in english?).
Alcohol is more about unfiltered id and forgetting about consequences(could I stick my dick in the vacuum hole?).
Both ideas are kinda dumb but the weed idea (for me) at least made think about what my mom’s life is like day to day. The alcohol idea just made me think about how I was going to explain this to a doctor.
Inevitably anything you do on drink ends up with you either feeling embarrsed or in some cases, ashamed the next day lol. The drunker you are the worse decisions you make and stupidity overtakes any creativity. On the other hand on weed, sometimes i can be too wasted, locked to the couch to do anything, but, if im in he middle of something that requires tunnel vision type focus, and i have the right weed, i have had some very productive days/ late nights on the weed...im a coder by the way
I’m sure this is an old post but I’ll chip in anyway-
I smoke to get stoned but I usually don’t drink to get drunk and I think that’s the difference. Drinking great quality booze in reasonable quantities with convivial company can easily be more creative than some of the daft bolloxsh I come out with when I’m high 😂
I smoke to get stoned but I usually don’t drink to get drunk and I think that’s the difference. Drinking great quality booze in reasonable quantities with convivial company can easily be more creative than some of the daft bolloxsh I come out with when I’m high 😂
15 posts
+91 votes
I get stoned to see reality not escape it
I get stoned to see reality not escape it
My fam will say I am escaping "reality" yet as soon as I am stoned I see what so much of their idea of reality is. LOTS OF LITTLE SHIT elevated to the hysteria of survival.
Yeah look at me escaping reality by thinking about the universe I am sitting in instead of standing in line to buy something I saw on TV.
Yeah look at me escaping reality by thinking about the universe I am sitting in instead of standing in line to buy something I saw on TV.
That is the escape, it opens your mind to the bigger picture, you can see who should or shouldn't be in your close circle, you can see what matters easier
I don't get high to escape I get high to open my mind
I don't get high to escape I get high to open my mind
i get almost religious when i think about this but then i remember there are opiate receptors as well.
Yes, psychedelics to expand my perspective, of course!
But I use cannabis to better accept the shit that is pushed on me from all sides since the day I was born. Cannabis just has that power to really upgrade my life in this sense. I guess Id use less of it I there was less stress and city idiotism in my life.
But I use cannabis to better accept the shit that is pushed on me from all sides since the day I was born. Cannabis just has that power to really upgrade my life in this sense. I guess Id use less of it I there was less stress and city idiotism in my life.
You will wish you hadn't found reality if you ever do find it. I don't recommend you search for it since it is a bleeding 'orrible ace to exist.
that's a cool way of putting it and i wonder maybe a definition of what it means to be conscious? intelligent beings will always expand their reality.
Then I probably wouldn't use the tern 'stoned' to describe this condition. It sounds more like you are elevated
6 posts
+26 votes
by
doc holiday
waves particles
7 posts
+14 votes
by
zara2
if we are living in a simulation of a simulation
If by game strategy you mean the meaning of life. Then the meaning is to find your meaning by exploration of yourself and the matter around you.
To gain knowledge or maybe its just a game you gotta figure out how to play to get to the next level?
A simulation of a simulation suggests to me that maybe something went wrong in the past or maybe its just a soul trap. Too many avenues of thought lol
A simulation of a simulation suggests to me that maybe something went wrong in the past or maybe its just a soul trap. Too many avenues of thought lol
6 posts
+24.2 votes
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1620
Who is the highest bigga Right Now?
BEEN TESTING THIS NEW ZKILATO33 OUTTA OF A BONG SO WOULD BET MONEY ITS ME RIGHT NOW HAHA
I'm 6 foot 7 inches tall does that count? Lol. Actually it's gone past 1 am and pretty high and about to hunt for food.....
This is an image of what my brain, the small part that's still working is telling me what I look like. Its taken me a long long time to write this, hope it comes through OK. God bless spell check and God bless you all and have a brilliant week.
This is an image of what my brain, the small part that's still working is telling me what I look like. Its taken me a long long time to write this, hope it comes through OK. God bless spell check and God bless you all and have a brilliant week.
Read some of Graham Hancock’s work or furthermore listen to the book of Enoch (the watchers), it’s not for everyone but a fascinating listen all the same. I have also been looking at the Megalithic masonry it’s mind boggling, Puzzle!
Graham Hancock's books are amazing! There are some great vids on YouTube as well!.. Randall Carlson and Dr Robert Schoch are also worth a look as well.
Ancient Aliens has some good bits... and frustrating bits... but more of a fun watch than serious information.. lol.
Also, another good channel to watch on Youtube is Bright Insight: https://www.youtube.com/c/BrightInsight
Ancient Aliens has some good bits... and frustrating bits... but more of a fun watch than serious information.. lol.
Also, another good channel to watch on Youtube is Bright Insight: https://www.youtube.com/c/BrightInsight
I think its more likely that there was an ancient civilisation that was as advanced as us if not more so.
I really don't know. I've watched documentaries on the theory but haven't made my mind up. I love hearing about alternative views though so I'm going to try Joe Rogan's podcasts mentioned in the conversation. It's kind of fun presenting theories like that to people you know are staunch nonbelievers. I like the reactions you get. I guess I'm open minded about that kind of thing until I get a first hand experience that confirms or denies it.
The evidence is everywhere. See the religious texts and reference to ships of light, fairy folklore Etc All the same phenomena but through different lenses in my opinion. Look for the books by Jacques Vallee. Unacknowledged on Netflix is worth a watch too.
You're taking text from 3000 years ago, and using that as your "evidence."
What about the bible, that must all be true too?
What about the bible, that must all be true too?
Okay perhaps the term ‘evidence’ is too strong when referring to old texts. just offering my opinion on this phenomena which may or may not be ‘aliens’.
Check out the recent videos released by the US Navy I.e. tic tac and Gimbal. Also the many reports with multiple credible witnesses.
Check out the recent videos released by the US Navy I.e. tic tac and Gimbal. Also the many reports with multiple credible witnesses.
I do have believe in ancient aliens especially in regards to The Pyramids construction.
I do like a bit of conspiracy too... lies buried in a library of History... Or His Story
I do like a bit of conspiracy too... lies buried in a library of History... Or His Story
There is a pod cast with Joe Rogan and Bob Lazar. Bob had mentioned that the craft he was working on was dug out of the ground. Speculating it had been buried for hundreds of thousands of years.
It was a very compelling pod cast.
It was a very compelling pod cast.
Any show that has 16 seasons must be true.
Not a true believer, but learned a lot from the show.
Not a true believer, but learned a lot from the show.
AA is craziness with a good amount of thought provoking articles such as the fucking fabulous stonework from the Stone Age.
Some of the presenters/ contributors are regarded as top comedians in our cave. David Childress to name one
Some of the presenters/ contributors are regarded as top comedians in our cave. David Childress to name one
Thought I'd add my own two cents into this.
I respect everyone's own view and opinions on the matter just wanted to make that clear.
I watched a debunk documentary by two men named Michael Hieser and Chis White and it truly blew my mind. It's extremely interesting, factual and I would recommend watching the whole thing. If anyone wants to watch it here's the link:
https://youtu.be/eeO3wm2y2zI
Hope every one is doing well in these trying times also!
I respect everyone's own view and opinions on the matter just wanted to make that clear.
I watched a debunk documentary by two men named Michael Hieser and Chis White and it truly blew my mind. It's extremely interesting, factual and I would recommend watching the whole thing. If anyone wants to watch it here's the link:
https://youtu.be/eeO3wm2y2zI
Hope every one is doing well in these trying times also!
It seems plausible with the stuff that they show on tv, although is that the stuff I was blazing making it out to be??
I'm sure if I was some ancient alien leaving buildings on some other planet I'd be back to check on them. What's the reasoning for these aliens just leaving little hints around the place?
I think the simplest answer is most likely the truth, there wasn't any aliens. People built stuff that looks odd because people are odd.
I think the simplest answer is most likely the truth, there wasn't any aliens. People built stuff that looks odd because people are odd.
Ancient people didnt just build odd stuff, they built intricately designed structures with mathematical precision
This is what make me think there was never aliens but a previous global civilisation that were more technologically advanced than the history books tell us. The evidence they left behind is to real.
The evidence has been left all around the world. For what ever reasons it is not taught in schools. Why is that? Hmmmm...
Look at this for an example of evidence ....
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=2884299454934060&id=182073298490036
Look at this for an example of evidence ....
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=2884299454934060&id=182073298490036
Thats just some YouTube video showing some mayan stuff with some creepy music in the background...that is not evidence.
2 posts
+6 votes
by
rajrodger
surveillance makes us all famous!
12 posts
+49 votes
by
JGreen1234
Life extension and reversal of the Epigenetic Clock. Good or bad?
by
JGreen1234
Life extension and reversal of the Epigenetic Clock. Good or bad?
Hey, I dont know if this has already been covered on here but it's something I find fascinating since I was introduced to Prof. David Sinclair by the Joe Rogan experience (#1234 and #1349 if you're interested)
I have attached an article about a small study that was done in California. The study only had 9 subjects and no control arm so I dont think we can take it TOO seriously. But the results, quite frankly, were astonishing.
I'm not going to try and explain how all of this works as I'm sure I'll butcher it but here's a key paragraph from the article.
'For one year, nine healthy volunteers took a cocktail of three common drugs — growth hormone and two diabetes medications — and on average shed 2.5 years of their biological ages, measured by analysing marks on a person’s genomes. The participants’ immune systems also showed signs of rejuvenation.'
To me that's pretty crazy, right? And from what I understand there are a couple of effective substances/medications available for reversing the epigenetic clock than were not used in this study.
And if you pay attention to Prof. Sinclair he believes that it is well in the realm of possibility that we could live anything up to 80 years longer in the future.
But what happens when we are all living til we are 180 years old? Will we have enough resources? Will the planet be able to cope with the inevitable mass increase in human population if this is the case? I mean, we seem to be struggling a bit globally as we are.
Just thought it was an interesting topic and would love to know your thoughts.
Happy Monday
J
I have attached an article about a small study that was done in California. The study only had 9 subjects and no control arm so I dont think we can take it TOO seriously. But the results, quite frankly, were astonishing.
I'm not going to try and explain how all of this works as I'm sure I'll butcher it but here's a key paragraph from the article.
'For one year, nine healthy volunteers took a cocktail of three common drugs — growth hormone and two diabetes medications — and on average shed 2.5 years of their biological ages, measured by analysing marks on a person’s genomes. The participants’ immune systems also showed signs of rejuvenation.'
To me that's pretty crazy, right? And from what I understand there are a couple of effective substances/medications available for reversing the epigenetic clock than were not used in this study.
And if you pay attention to Prof. Sinclair he believes that it is well in the realm of possibility that we could live anything up to 80 years longer in the future.
But what happens when we are all living til we are 180 years old? Will we have enough resources? Will the planet be able to cope with the inevitable mass increase in human population if this is the case? I mean, we seem to be struggling a bit globally as we are.
Just thought it was an interesting topic and would love to know your thoughts.
Happy Monday
J
Thanks just that genetic measurement of age is an eye opener. Seems once you can do this you can measure everything we do against it.
Hey Han, yes indeed it is an eye opener. From what I've read that will be exactly the case. We should be able to mesure how specific habits etc. directly affect the epigenetic (horvath) clock. Exciting times for sure!
Then hookup an AI to make favorable decisions for us, then... It seems all paths lead to the same place :()
Yeah, a dirty dystopia where the "elites" AI our buttholes to oblivion. Im not down with that shit!
Why? shouldn't we all be asking why we want to live longer, rather than going along with that reactionary action from deep in the psyche of 'Yes ofcourse I want to live longer!' and I don't care why I do........
If I could recommend one book everyone should read this year it would be Lifespan.
It's science, it's facts, it's perspective shattering and throughouly enjoyable
It's science, it's facts, it's perspective shattering and throughouly enjoyable
2 posts
+8 votes
by
greencigar
Does psilocybin reset tolerance in small doses?
by
greencigar
Does psilocybin reset tolerance in small doses?
I've never really posted anything of this nature on LB as I generally have a good command on my tolerance, my headspace, and my mental health (variable)...
Anyhow, I've been off in the mountains, hunting, picking, and consuming some of the wonderful fruits of the pasture (first time in maybe 15 years). However, the quantity so far has been limited, but ample for 2 microdoses (0.5g dried on Sunday / 4g fresh on Monday). I then went 48 hours without any THC as my tolerance has been sky high. I then ingested 100mg on Wednesday, and it was like I was off to the moon. Highly peculiar, and work was interesting. I can usually ingest 3-400mg without flinching, and walk up the mountain, but on this occasion... Oooof!
I've also noticed my mood has improved, my thinking has been more profound and positive, and I'm out of a year long funk.
Is this psychosomatic? Is this a mid-life crisis?
Your unique and wonderful LB thoughts are appreciated.
Much love and kind regards,
GC
Anyhow, I've been off in the mountains, hunting, picking, and consuming some of the wonderful fruits of the pasture (first time in maybe 15 years). However, the quantity so far has been limited, but ample for 2 microdoses (0.5g dried on Sunday / 4g fresh on Monday). I then went 48 hours without any THC as my tolerance has been sky high. I then ingested 100mg on Wednesday, and it was like I was off to the moon. Highly peculiar, and work was interesting. I can usually ingest 3-400mg without flinching, and walk up the mountain, but on this occasion... Oooof!
I've also noticed my mood has improved, my thinking has been more profound and positive, and I'm out of a year long funk.
Is this psychosomatic? Is this a mid-life crisis?
Your unique and wonderful LB thoughts are appreciated.
Much love and kind regards,
GC
I've noticed psilocybin does have a reset effect on outlook and increase a positive mood. For sure! I've also witnessed it helping heal physical wounds. I know it's being used in certain situations to help tackle addiction and depression, so I would assume a general positive effect on other aspects of life as well. Interesting to hear about potential effects to THC tolerance. Not heard of that before, but it would make some sense if it does work with addictions. In my head it does anyway ha
I think a general T-break of 48hrs+ is good for managing t-levels. I need to do one.
I think a general T-break of 48hrs+ is good for managing t-levels. I need to do one.
6 posts
+16 votes
we are really all the same color
The words of Haile Sellasie, in a rare interview when asked a question about skin colour had the best response (I wont put the full quote here just the most poignant bit):
"Through vengeance and remorse, co-existence would not be possible and this would be detrimental to the preservation of international peace.
I must say that Black and White, as forms of speech and and as a means of judging mankind, should be eliminated from human society.
Human beings are precisely the same whatever colour, race, creed or national origin they may be."
"Through vengeance and remorse, co-existence would not be possible and this would be detrimental to the preservation of international peace.
I must say that Black and White, as forms of speech and and as a means of judging mankind, should be eliminated from human society.
Human beings are precisely the same whatever colour, race, creed or national origin they may be."
3 posts
+9 votes
by
Katy
Stoned robot?
4 posts
+11.2 votes
by
theStrokes
universal gut interface?
by
theStrokes
universal gut interface?
i see so much about mind machine interfaces, how you can put a.i on the other side of a brain and just use learning engines to create incredible experiences.
but what about gut neurons? thats where the emotions are, why not pursue this more primitive and in some important ways more significant interface?
but what about gut neurons? thats where the emotions are, why not pursue this more primitive and in some important ways more significant interface?
Ideas are cool. But I have issues with how the system is geared towards patenting and monopoly. Also I abandoned this mad notion that reductionist science is good for anything else than inhumane profits and weapons of mass destruction, its so obvious, even the birds know it. Humanity is fcked if we dont upgrade our current use of tech and science and how we approach solving issues that stem from pollution and corruption of government, by corporations that are not liable for any destruction and pillage of resources that are here for all the children of this planet, not just these 1%, them all being mega psychos who allow this state of things.
Maybe this is unpopular opinion here on LB but Ill risk it cause Im based: I think no good will be coming out of AI transhumanist camp as it is today.
On the other hand, if you ask me, analog transhumanism, which would mean a natural upgrading of human abilities, is the way to go.
Maybe this is unpopular opinion here on LB but Ill risk it cause Im based: I think no good will be coming out of AI transhumanist camp as it is today.
On the other hand, if you ask me, analog transhumanism, which would mean a natural upgrading of human abilities, is the way to go.
1 post
+5 votes
by
ike
the pulse of a computational universe
1 post
+3.2 votes
ai is domesticating us
ai is domesticating us
most of us are workhorses producing data for it. it rewards nice stuff it thinks we will like
2 posts
+8 votes
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1212
life after death? no problem
maybe not a stoned thought
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Jakko1992
You're not stuck in traffic. You ARE traffic
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AntiVax2020
Vaccines potentially a threat to life?
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AntiVax2020
Vaccines potentially a threat to life?
what are your thoughts?
(Natural News) You’re seeing the reports all over the news: Pfizer’s new coronavirus vaccine requires storage at -70C (-94F), which is much colder than the North Pole. If it’s not stored at this temperature, its ingredients begin to break down and it fails to work. Currently Pfizer is claiming, without evidence, that its vaccine is “90% effective.” But this claim is little more than corporate propaganda designed to drive up stock prices through false projections.
But why do these vaccines need to be kept at -70C in the first place?The answer, it turns out, is because they contain potentially hazardous ingredients that have never been used in vaccines before.
As Children’s Health Defense explained in an August 6th article, “mRNA vaccines undergoing Covid-19 clinical trials, including the Moderna vaccine, rely on a nanoparticle-based “carrier system” containing a synthetic chemical called polyethylene glycol (PEG).”
CHD goes on to explain:
The use of PEG in drugs and vaccines is increasingly controversial due to the well-documented incidence of adverse PEG-related immune reactions, including life-threatening anaphylaxis.
Roughly seven in ten Americans may already be sensitized to PEG, which may result in reduced efficacy of the vaccine and an increase in adverse side effects.If a PEG-containing mRNA vaccine for Covid-19 gains FDA approval, the uptick in exposure to PEG will be unprecedented—and potentially disastrous.
Moderna documents and publications indicate that the company is well aware of safety risks associated with PEG and other aspects of its mRNA technology but is more concerned with its bottom line.
Learn more about the super cold temperature requirements for the coronavirus vaccine in my Daily News Brief for Nov. 18th, 2020:Lipid nanoparticles cause hyperinflammatory responses in the body, leading to severe reactions, hospitalization and potentially DEATH
Why are LNPs (Lipid Nanoparticles) used in these vaccines? As CHD further explains:
LNPs “encapsulate the mRNA constructs to protect them from degradation and promote cellular uptake” and, additionally, rev up the immune system (a property that vaccine scientists tamely describe as LNPs’ “inherent adjuvant properties”)
In other words, the LNPs are adjuvants, meaning they are designed to cause hyperinflammatory responses in human beings, once injected. This is done in an effort to induce the creation of antibodies that then allow the vaccine manufacturer to claim high “effectiveness” rates, even when those very same adjuvants cause severe adverse reactions.
According to recent vaccine trials conducted by Moderna, 100% of human subjects in the high-dose vaccine trial group experienced adverse reactions.UK government prepared for a vaccine death wave
The adverse reactions caused by mRNA coronavirus vaccines are so widespread that the UK government recently admitted it is expecting a massive wave of coronavirus vaccine “adverse reactions” / side effects. As described in my previous article, “VACCINE DEATH WAVE: UK government posts bid for AI system to process the expected flood of COVID-19 vaccine injuries and side effects described as a ‘direct threat to patient life’“:
The UK government has posted a bid and an award contract notice, seeking an Artificial Intelligence (AI) system that can process the expected flood of covid-19 vaccine injuries and side effects.
That bid explains, in the government’s own words:That bid explains, in the government’s own words:
The MHRA urgently seeks an Artificial Intelligence (AI) software tool to process the expected high volume of Covid-19 vaccine Adverse Drug Reaction (ADRs) and ensure that no details from the ADRs’ reaction text are missed.
In other words, they already know these vaccines are going to kill a huge number of people.
David Knight featured a UK whistleblower on his show today who revealed that coronavirus vaccine adjuvants are demonstrating a 97% sterility rate in women who take the vaccine. This is what happens when you turn your protein synthesis over to evil corporations who are pursuing a global depopulationa agenda:Coronavirus vaccine deaths will be categorized as covid-19 deaths to keep the scam going
Most importantly, as people start dying from coronavirus vaccines, the medical establishment will categorize all those deaths as “covid-19 deaths” in order to claim the pandemic is getting worse.
This will create a whole new cycle of death, media hysteria and mandatory vaccine policies. Those, in turn, will kill even more people, feeding into the very same feedback loop that results in even more people being vaccinated and killed.
Ultimately, the vaccines themselves will likely end up killing more people than the coronavirus. And we will have achieved George Orwel
(Natural News) You’re seeing the reports all over the news: Pfizer’s new coronavirus vaccine requires storage at -70C (-94F), which is much colder than the North Pole. If it’s not stored at this temperature, its ingredients begin to break down and it fails to work. Currently Pfizer is claiming, without evidence, that its vaccine is “90% effective.” But this claim is little more than corporate propaganda designed to drive up stock prices through false projections.
But why do these vaccines need to be kept at -70C in the first place?The answer, it turns out, is because they contain potentially hazardous ingredients that have never been used in vaccines before.
As Children’s Health Defense explained in an August 6th article, “mRNA vaccines undergoing Covid-19 clinical trials, including the Moderna vaccine, rely on a nanoparticle-based “carrier system” containing a synthetic chemical called polyethylene glycol (PEG).”
CHD goes on to explain:
The use of PEG in drugs and vaccines is increasingly controversial due to the well-documented incidence of adverse PEG-related immune reactions, including life-threatening anaphylaxis.
Roughly seven in ten Americans may already be sensitized to PEG, which may result in reduced efficacy of the vaccine and an increase in adverse side effects.If a PEG-containing mRNA vaccine for Covid-19 gains FDA approval, the uptick in exposure to PEG will be unprecedented—and potentially disastrous.
Moderna documents and publications indicate that the company is well aware of safety risks associated with PEG and other aspects of its mRNA technology but is more concerned with its bottom line.
Learn more about the super cold temperature requirements for the coronavirus vaccine in my Daily News Brief for Nov. 18th, 2020:Lipid nanoparticles cause hyperinflammatory responses in the body, leading to severe reactions, hospitalization and potentially DEATH
Why are LNPs (Lipid Nanoparticles) used in these vaccines? As CHD further explains:
LNPs “encapsulate the mRNA constructs to protect them from degradation and promote cellular uptake” and, additionally, rev up the immune system (a property that vaccine scientists tamely describe as LNPs’ “inherent adjuvant properties”)
In other words, the LNPs are adjuvants, meaning they are designed to cause hyperinflammatory responses in human beings, once injected. This is done in an effort to induce the creation of antibodies that then allow the vaccine manufacturer to claim high “effectiveness” rates, even when those very same adjuvants cause severe adverse reactions.
According to recent vaccine trials conducted by Moderna, 100% of human subjects in the high-dose vaccine trial group experienced adverse reactions.UK government prepared for a vaccine death wave
The adverse reactions caused by mRNA coronavirus vaccines are so widespread that the UK government recently admitted it is expecting a massive wave of coronavirus vaccine “adverse reactions” / side effects. As described in my previous article, “VACCINE DEATH WAVE: UK government posts bid for AI system to process the expected flood of COVID-19 vaccine injuries and side effects described as a ‘direct threat to patient life’“:
The UK government has posted a bid and an award contract notice, seeking an Artificial Intelligence (AI) system that can process the expected flood of covid-19 vaccine injuries and side effects.
That bid explains, in the government’s own words:That bid explains, in the government’s own words:
The MHRA urgently seeks an Artificial Intelligence (AI) software tool to process the expected high volume of Covid-19 vaccine Adverse Drug Reaction (ADRs) and ensure that no details from the ADRs’ reaction text are missed.
In other words, they already know these vaccines are going to kill a huge number of people.
David Knight featured a UK whistleblower on his show today who revealed that coronavirus vaccine adjuvants are demonstrating a 97% sterility rate in women who take the vaccine. This is what happens when you turn your protein synthesis over to evil corporations who are pursuing a global depopulationa agenda:Coronavirus vaccine deaths will be categorized as covid-19 deaths to keep the scam going
Most importantly, as people start dying from coronavirus vaccines, the medical establishment will categorize all those deaths as “covid-19 deaths” in order to claim the pandemic is getting worse.
This will create a whole new cycle of death, media hysteria and mandatory vaccine policies. Those, in turn, will kill even more people, feeding into the very same feedback loop that results in even more people being vaccinated and killed.
Ultimately, the vaccines themselves will likely end up killing more people than the coronavirus. And we will have achieved George Orwel
A little bit of journalism in that article wouldn't go amiss. It seems like lots of unsubstantiated ranting with little or no factual backup. Lots of sweeping statements and conjecture and very little basis for it. Not to mention 'Orwell', who was an author's pseudonym, not a state of existence.
Pro life, pro information here, too.
Pro life, pro information here, too.
I guess people get frustrated because if your pro information you would be getting all of this yourself. It’s all there to find, just people using the wrong search engines and information platforms.
There's a plethora of information regarding the danger's of the vaccine's and the diabolical actions of government you just been sleeping through it matey...
Even without information if you still honestly believe that government has are best interests at heart from all that's happened way before the scam/plan-demic days then i fear you maybe lost for good either that or your a proper gander agent.
1 love.
Even without information if you still honestly believe that government has are best interests at heart from all that's happened way before the scam/plan-demic days then i fear you maybe lost for good either that or your a proper gander agent.
1 love.
You've thrown up a ton of straw men there. I never once said I trust the government. I was commenting on the above post, which cites no sources, studies, or any information. Therefore the initial post was full of sweeping statements and conjecture. You comment was wasted.
Then get on board pal, your statement's seemed negative towards his post due to it not being set out like well detailed journalistic column with source's, studies and information. Thing is it's up to you to journalize the information for yourself, then you know if it substantiated or false, that's problem with today's media, all hoax statistic's linked to bogus charlatans.
(((Have some more straw ))) :)
(((Have some more straw ))) :)
Observations are observations. I don't need to journalise other people's shaky sources when I have my own research in hand. You make a lot of assumptions, write terribly, and misuse your punctuation (quick tip - don't use an apostrophes for your plurals). If I were to listen to anyone, it would be someone who could adequately read my comments, understand them, and respond correctly. You have done none of these things, and you are mistaking me for someone who cares about your opinion. Much love.
Well put... and spelt lol.
Sorry mate must not be as well educated as you in the art of grammar, perhaps the money divide and or posh school's that come with it helped you to become superior to me in this area. Or perhaps they didn't but in this moment im feeling infinitely wiser than you in critical thinking and luckily for me grammar aint shit ha.
Be thankfull I didnt go full LEET on ya ass.
Ball back in your court buddy... :)
Sorry mate must not be as well educated as you in the art of grammar, perhaps the money divide and or posh school's that come with it helped you to become superior to me in this area. Or perhaps they didn't but in this moment im feeling infinitely wiser than you in critical thinking and luckily for me grammar aint shit ha.
Be thankfull I didnt go full LEET on ya ass.
Ball back in your court buddy... :)
Again, observations are observations. Your elementary mistakes undermine your credibility. The way you use your apostrophes is similar to mistakes young children make in primary school. What's to say you aren't making the same mistakes with your beliefs or research. You talk a lot, but you don't say very much. Like I said. It is what it is. You still have absolutely no idea what my thoughts are on the matter, except for my observations on a post that didn't present any clear information or points for debate. People who say they are wise rarely are, so good luck with that. I'll let your words do the talking.
P.S. I didn't say I was or am in any way superior. I merely pointed out that you didn't read my comment, understand my comment, or respond in any intelligent way. Observations like I said. If you feel inferior (or me to be superior), that's with you.
im the best cigar lol...
just kiddin man, starting to get off topic and toxic. emotion getting in the way of what should be friendly debate.
your a good man without malice im sure, i wish ye all the best.
Now let's all join hand's, spread the love and sing a song. Ill start.
"HAKUNA MATATA, what a wonderful phrase."
just kiddin man, starting to get off topic and toxic. emotion getting in the way of what should be friendly debate.
your a good man without malice im sure, i wish ye all the best.
Now let's all join hand's, spread the love and sing a song. Ill start.
"HAKUNA MATATA, what a wonderful phrase."
Lol I laughed that people down vote the option to find out some information for themselves:) I am still laughing!
Usually with these things I take the lead of trusted scientists rather than some dude on a black market weed site comment section. Anti vax people are incredibly frustrating in today’s society. The whole reason you’ve never lived through a pandemic before is because of previous vaccines. Take the vaccine (or don’t). But stop spreading harmful lies.
This really is a case where lies can harm. That applies to both sides of this argument.
The idea of a rushed drug bringing unknown side effects is a real prospect, it doesn't need all these bizarre fictions and claims of conspiracies.
The idea of interdependent teams worldwide developing vaccines that stop a virus without causing undue harm is a pretty real prospect too, I'm gonna go with that one.
The idea of a rushed drug bringing unknown side effects is a real prospect, it doesn't need all these bizarre fictions and claims of conspiracies.
The idea of interdependent teams worldwide developing vaccines that stop a virus without causing undue harm is a pretty real prospect too, I'm gonna go with that one.
At the end of the day I will.not be participating in there experimental "vaccine" and let's say the virus does exist which i very.much doubt it has a 99.7 percent survival rate. The so called vaccine will.kill more than the virus
Interdependent teams worldwide lols, there all in cahoots especially in the upper echelons, what do you think they discuss at these large secret world leader parties with proven criminals. Ever wonder why most leading country flag's are all basically the same style varying colour's. (red white blue green yellow but never ever the forbidden purple) Dont get me started on the at the so called rival space programs flag's check em out. Thing aint what they seem my pedigree chum.
Its not harmful.lies have u seen the number of deaths already from the so called vaccine. The only ones spreading lies are giverment officials and rhere bought and paid for scientific advisers. If anyone sits down with all the facts and still believes there's an infectious deadly disease spreading like wild fire needs rhere head seriously checked. Its no longer acceptable to beleive bbc news and sky news ect. Do.your own research and come back and tell us who is spreading dangerous lies
https://www.medalerts.org/vaersdb/findfield.php?EVENTS=on&PAGENO=3&PERPAGE=10&ESORT=&REVERSESORT=&VAX=(COVID19)&VAXTYPES=(COVID-19)&DIED=Yes
I wonder what it will be like to re read this above comment in 6 months and see where we are at then! Kids I know that are vaccine free are far healthier than the vaccinated ones imo
Trusted scientiss are u having a laugh its an MRNA its not a vaccine the so called.sxientists tell you this
It is an mRNA based vaccine. It means that you are injected with mRNA which tells cells in your body to produce a specific protein, in this case mimicking the protein spike on the Covid-19 virus. This tricks your body into thinking it is infected and teaches it to produce antibodies that latch onto the protein spikes, so that if you are unlucky enough to catch the actual virus, your immune system already has the blueprint for the antibody and can fight the virus immediately.
It isn’t gene therapy. Gene therapy aims to alter your cells’ DNA to make them do something different. Often to produce a protein, which is why people confuse mRNA vaccines with gene therapy.
Bio weapons cause death or disease. None of the vaccines do this, with the exception of rare side effects.
Bio weapons cause death or disease. None of the vaccines do this, with the exception of rare side effects.
Can you say with certainty when a vaccinated person meets the same virus structure again they won’t likely have an overwhelming immune response that could be harmful?
What you’re talking about is called a cytokine storm and they can affect anyone, at any time, in response to almost any immune response stimulus. So no, no one can give that guarantee to anyone. Cytokine storms also happen when you contract Covid and can and have caused death to lots of patients.
This is something being injected that the company behind it take no liability for the harm it may cause, that have links to bio warfare investors and an interest in being able to put something into people’s bodies, that can at a later time be targeted to create an overwhelming response within an individual, basically being able to control the outcome of the person vaccinated by subjecting them to such a virus or similar to create yes a cytokine storm or worse, I believe this is what animal trials showed happened with this type of vaccine and is common knowledge as a way to create bio warfare within human populations
I don’t know how to answer that Katy. It is certainly possible, the technology is certainly there and has already been tested in war zones. I guess we have to have some faith in humanity and hope these vaccines are being made for good.
I guess one way to look at it is to ask why would they bother? Why bother to create a new human corona virus (it may been engineered at the big Wuhan lab that specialises in studying bar corona viruses and got out by accident), then spend so much time and money creating a vaccine using multinational cooperation, whilst people are already dying and economies crashing... when they could just depopulate, or cause illness through the myriad of viruses, possibly a new mRNA virus, they already have and just blame it in a freak accidental leak?
When all counties are in it together, and most counties are using a mixture of different types of vaccines, who gains from this sort of biowarfare?
Why are there lots of companies racing to produce more standard cultured vaccines, such as the AZ one, which don’t use mRNA techniques at all.
Why bother injecting us at all when ‘they’ control our water, food and air any of which can (and has) be adulterated any time ‘they’ like.
Who benefits from a sickly world population? It costs a fortune in treatment.
Why bother when we’re pretty good at making ourselves sick from what we eat and drink and smoke and all of the EMF and RF that we surround ourselves with.
It’s like the theory about there being a tracking chip in the vaccine. Why? We all carry our phones everywhere, there’s no need, we can tracked 24/7 already.
I think these are all fantastical science fiction and really interesting, but there are easier ways to do all of these things. There are easier and cheaper ways to get rid of us.
I guess one way to look at it is to ask why would they bother? Why bother to create a new human corona virus (it may been engineered at the big Wuhan lab that specialises in studying bar corona viruses and got out by accident), then spend so much time and money creating a vaccine using multinational cooperation, whilst people are already dying and economies crashing... when they could just depopulate, or cause illness through the myriad of viruses, possibly a new mRNA virus, they already have and just blame it in a freak accidental leak?
When all counties are in it together, and most counties are using a mixture of different types of vaccines, who gains from this sort of biowarfare?
Why are there lots of companies racing to produce more standard cultured vaccines, such as the AZ one, which don’t use mRNA techniques at all.
Why bother injecting us at all when ‘they’ control our water, food and air any of which can (and has) be adulterated any time ‘they’ like.
Who benefits from a sickly world population? It costs a fortune in treatment.
Why bother when we’re pretty good at making ourselves sick from what we eat and drink and smoke and all of the EMF and RF that we surround ourselves with.
It’s like the theory about there being a tracking chip in the vaccine. Why? We all carry our phones everywhere, there’s no need, we can tracked 24/7 already.
I think these are all fantastical science fiction and really interesting, but there are easier ways to do all of these things. There are easier and cheaper ways to get rid of us.
There is a government paper regarding our advances in future profitability, I believe to appeal to the countries now we stand alone. This includes wanting to be at the forefront of combining medical and technological interventions to help to ensure coherence of any threat that deviates from the one order to be compliant and profitable for the good of everyone as dictated by those who know what it best for us
Hi Matt,
Call me a nut but i believe every pandemic has quite possibly been man made, by smart men, scientist. Some have even been proven to be. Small pox, aid's, Ebola even the black plague has nefarious beginnings, check it out. If it's between todays lobbied mad scientists and some dude on black market weed site then im with the latter every time. Plus he's not just plucked this from thin air or even his belief he's simply supplying information which can be verified.
Either wake or go back to sleep my brother.
Namaste.
Call me a nut but i believe every pandemic has quite possibly been man made, by smart men, scientist. Some have even been proven to be. Small pox, aid's, Ebola even the black plague has nefarious beginnings, check it out. If it's between todays lobbied mad scientists and some dude on black market weed site then im with the latter every time. Plus he's not just plucked this from thin air or even his belief he's simply supplying information which can be verified.
Either wake or go back to sleep my brother.
Namaste.
We already descended into name calling. One that attack's another for their there in this case substantiated belief's is one of three thing scared, antagonist, deep state agent. When one cant articulate their argument they have already lost.
If i where I nut I would be a wing nut as to easily screw the like of you...
If i where I nut I would be a wing nut as to easily screw the like of you...
To be fair, you did say, "call me a nut". He called you a nut. What's your issue? There's no pleasing some people!
Your right I apologies, didn't see, sorry matt love you bro. actually v funny. It's the way these post are moved around and interjected in-between other's, in the end it all becomes a mish mash of unconnectable BLAH. Surely there's a more effective method for group discuss.
Thanks for pointing out cigar your a good egg.
Thanks for pointing out cigar your a good egg.
The covid virus shows a structure that has been manipulated artificially to be more infectious to humans, the virus needed to be manipulated to create a structure for it to be able to jump to humans and be so effective
OMG this thread! I’ve read and watched extensively into anti-vax before vaccinating my children. When my first son was vaccinated I was almost completely convinced that he’d have an adverse reaction. He was fine. It’s all a load of bollocks.
Yes some people have adverse reactions and some die from being vaccinated. And yes every vaccine carries risk. But the diseases that protect from are more dangerous. It’s about balance.
Measles, meningitis, polio etc. are no joke. They kill and leave people with serious debilitation and in significantly higher numbers than any vaccine.
The anti-vaxers are protected to a huge extent by the rest of us who vaccinate. What a luxury. It’s easy to throw stones at vaccines when you’re being protected by them indirectly.
The reality is that if none of us were vaccinated the diseases that anti-vaxers believe are harmless and treatable would be killing and causing long term debilitation in huge numbers of children and adults around the world.
All drugs carry risks. Anyone can be allergic to anything. How many of you take paracetamol? That kills loads of people every year through allergic reactions.
Peanuts kills loads of people every year. You’d better stop eating them and start a ‘woke’ movement about it. ‘Shit you’re still eating peanuts? Wake up sheeple! The peanut producers are funded by Bill Gates to help reduce the population!’ Jesus!
Life is a balance of risks, for the individual and for society. I’d rather take the risk with a vaccine where 1 in 10,000 have a reaction than a virus that kills between 2-5 in 100 and leaves 1 in 10 with long term damage.
Wake up wokies.
Yes some people have adverse reactions and some die from being vaccinated. And yes every vaccine carries risk. But the diseases that protect from are more dangerous. It’s about balance.
Measles, meningitis, polio etc. are no joke. They kill and leave people with serious debilitation and in significantly higher numbers than any vaccine.
The anti-vaxers are protected to a huge extent by the rest of us who vaccinate. What a luxury. It’s easy to throw stones at vaccines when you’re being protected by them indirectly.
The reality is that if none of us were vaccinated the diseases that anti-vaxers believe are harmless and treatable would be killing and causing long term debilitation in huge numbers of children and adults around the world.
All drugs carry risks. Anyone can be allergic to anything. How many of you take paracetamol? That kills loads of people every year through allergic reactions.
Peanuts kills loads of people every year. You’d better stop eating them and start a ‘woke’ movement about it. ‘Shit you’re still eating peanuts? Wake up sheeple! The peanut producers are funded by Bill Gates to help reduce the population!’ Jesus!
Life is a balance of risks, for the individual and for society. I’d rather take the risk with a vaccine where 1 in 10,000 have a reaction than a virus that kills between 2-5 in 100 and leaves 1 in 10 with long term damage.
Wake up wokies.
Live Vaccines shed and can be found in saliva and stools weeks after vaccination, vaccinated children can infect non vaccinated children!
Meningitis and many of its life changing effects can also be caused by reactions to a vaccine so it’s important to make informed choices.
People that cannot have more vaccines due to past injury are probably not riding on your coat tails I’m sorry, more scared every time more vaccines are dished out incase it makes us sick.
I’ve said before being awake is allowing everyone to have a view and opinion without having to be right or be offensive to others, stuff like wake up wokies just makes you look a bit silly
Meningitis and many of its life changing effects can also be caused by reactions to a vaccine so it’s important to make informed choices.
People that cannot have more vaccines due to past injury are probably not riding on your coat tails I’m sorry, more scared every time more vaccines are dished out incase it makes us sick.
I’ve said before being awake is allowing everyone to have a view and opinion without having to be right or be offensive to others, stuff like wake up wokies just makes you look a bit silly
Hi Katy, you sound like you have a backstory to all of this?
My wake up comment was made in jest and was hardly offensive. It certainly wasn’t an attempt to shut down discourse or imply that I’m right.
Yes people shed live vaccines, but they are attenuated, only have a transmission rate of half of one percent and only cause very mild illness if they are picked up. I am regularly in very close proximity with post-vaccinated groups and have never become ill.
Yes children do have adverse reactions to the meningitis vaccine and yes they have caused harm. But thankfully it is incredibly rare and much less likely than harm occurring from the disease itself. If there were no vaccine, you would also see it as a common illness and would affect multitudes more children and adults. So yes, although it’s incredibly sad that some children are harmed by the vaccine, imagine that suffering multiplied by a large factor and then look at the additional number of children and families suffering.
Even if you have to avoid vaccination due to previous injury (which I’m sorry to hear about), you are nonetheless ‘riding in our coat tails’ as you put it, because those of us who can and who are willing to be vaccinated are massively reducing the amount of disease in circulation, therefore hugely limiting your exposure to any given disease.
Thanks.
My wake up comment was made in jest and was hardly offensive. It certainly wasn’t an attempt to shut down discourse or imply that I’m right.
Yes people shed live vaccines, but they are attenuated, only have a transmission rate of half of one percent and only cause very mild illness if they are picked up. I am regularly in very close proximity with post-vaccinated groups and have never become ill.
Yes children do have adverse reactions to the meningitis vaccine and yes they have caused harm. But thankfully it is incredibly rare and much less likely than harm occurring from the disease itself. If there were no vaccine, you would also see it as a common illness and would affect multitudes more children and adults. So yes, although it’s incredibly sad that some children are harmed by the vaccine, imagine that suffering multiplied by a large factor and then look at the additional number of children and families suffering.
Even if you have to avoid vaccination due to previous injury (which I’m sorry to hear about), you are nonetheless ‘riding in our coat tails’ as you put it, because those of us who can and who are willing to be vaccinated are massively reducing the amount of disease in circulation, therefore hugely limiting your exposure to any given disease.
Thanks.
Yes and we’ve heard your back story too :)
Please don’t take a vaccine on my account. I’m happy to take responsibility for my choices.
I believe many diseases were already in decline before some vaccines were introduced
Over crowing and over population, poor lifestyle choices can be to blame for the resurgence of an illness in the population or even the start of contracting a disease for an individual.
I aim to be ok without processed medicine and foods as much as possible. If you don’t do it for yourself no one else will, think about how much you all rely on things that are not yours and need other people to access what you need or answer to them just to live
Please don’t take a vaccine on my account. I’m happy to take responsibility for my choices.
I believe many diseases were already in decline before some vaccines were introduced
Over crowing and over population, poor lifestyle choices can be to blame for the resurgence of an illness in the population or even the start of contracting a disease for an individual.
I aim to be ok without processed medicine and foods as much as possible. If you don’t do it for yourself no one else will, think about how much you all rely on things that are not yours and need other people to access what you need or answer to them just to live
'Please don’t take a vaccine on my account. I’m happy to take responsibility for my choices.'
That's fine as an individual, but this is the problem with the rise of individualism, people start to neglect their place within and obligations to the wider community.
If you have had previous bad reactions to vaccines, then that is understandable and of course you shouldn't take another vaccine, but the trouble is you're promoting a position on vaccination which influences other healthy individuals not to get vaccinated either, which in turn will lead to more virus in your community, which could well cost the lives of vulnerable people in your community.
No one is an island. Your choices have implications for the community around you.
It's like people who don't vaccinate their children for common childhood diseases. Great, well done, it's their choice as individuals, but by doing so they neglect the community they live in by increasing prevalence of these diseases which impacts directly on vulnerable children who can't actually have the vaccine for medical reasons, such as babies who are under 1 years old and who are very high risk.
I'm surprised you're not at the other end of the argument, Katy. If you can't take the vaccine yourself, surely you want the disease rates circulating in your community to be as low as possible, to protect you and all of the other vulnerable people who could be seriously affected if they contracted it.
That's fine as an individual, but this is the problem with the rise of individualism, people start to neglect their place within and obligations to the wider community.
If you have had previous bad reactions to vaccines, then that is understandable and of course you shouldn't take another vaccine, but the trouble is you're promoting a position on vaccination which influences other healthy individuals not to get vaccinated either, which in turn will lead to more virus in your community, which could well cost the lives of vulnerable people in your community.
No one is an island. Your choices have implications for the community around you.
It's like people who don't vaccinate their children for common childhood diseases. Great, well done, it's their choice as individuals, but by doing so they neglect the community they live in by increasing prevalence of these diseases which impacts directly on vulnerable children who can't actually have the vaccine for medical reasons, such as babies who are under 1 years old and who are very high risk.
I'm surprised you're not at the other end of the argument, Katy. If you can't take the vaccine yourself, surely you want the disease rates circulating in your community to be as low as possible, to protect you and all of the other vulnerable people who could be seriously affected if they contracted it.
I’d rather people worked on self care and natural immunity
Do you promote or administer the vaccine yourself for work?
Do you promote or administer the vaccine yourself for work?
No I don’t promote or administer the vaccine for work.
Believe it or not I’m really holistic, have been seeing a nutritionist and psychologist for years and I do work on self care and boosting my natural immunity.
I’ve read all the anti-vax stuff, seen all the films and while some of it is accurate, it’s a bit overblown and scaremongering and doesn’t really reflect the reality. The way it’s portrayed our communities should be overrun with victims damaged by all of these evil vaccines. But that just isn’t the case on the ground. Neither our hospitals, nor our cemeteries, nor our schools are filled with people who have had adverse reactions. Nor are they filled with people with damaged immune responses, or even generally sickly people. It just isn’t the case. And you’d expect it to be if you believed the information they produce.
It is also apparent that for many diseases, self care and building up your immune system wouldn’t be any sort of defence. Vaccination across the community is the only way to protect against them, both as individuals but also to protect vulnerable people who can’t have the vaccines.
Believe it or not I’m really holistic, have been seeing a nutritionist and psychologist for years and I do work on self care and boosting my natural immunity.
I’ve read all the anti-vax stuff, seen all the films and while some of it is accurate, it’s a bit overblown and scaremongering and doesn’t really reflect the reality. The way it’s portrayed our communities should be overrun with victims damaged by all of these evil vaccines. But that just isn’t the case on the ground. Neither our hospitals, nor our cemeteries, nor our schools are filled with people who have had adverse reactions. Nor are they filled with people with damaged immune responses, or even generally sickly people. It just isn’t the case. And you’d expect it to be if you believed the information they produce.
It is also apparent that for many diseases, self care and building up your immune system wouldn’t be any sort of defence. Vaccination across the community is the only way to protect against them, both as individuals but also to protect vulnerable people who can’t have the vaccines.
We have a huge amount of people with auto immune illnesses don’t we?
Please tell me which ones we need to be vaccinated against?
Please tell me which ones we need to be vaccinated against?
I don’t know the answer to that Katy. We do have a small amount (relative to population) of type Diabetes 1, Arthritis and MS, which makes up the majority of autoimmune cases. But haven’t we always? And is any increase due to better diagnostics and more organised tracking/treatment? It’s only relatively recently that these diseases have been recognised as being caused by an autoimmune process and classed as autoimmune diseases. So I don’t know.
I would say we need to be vaccinated against all the high risk diseases... which already make up the vaccination schedule in the UK. Other countries offer way more vaccines, like chickenpox etc. which you can also get in the UK privately if you want to. One that is on the schedule for children that I don’t think is necessary is rotavirus, which is usually a standard D&V virus and only very rarely has complications. I refused that one for my children. But the big headliners that can cause death or real lasting damage are definitely required.
I would say we need to be vaccinated against all the high risk diseases... which already make up the vaccination schedule in the UK. Other countries offer way more vaccines, like chickenpox etc. which you can also get in the UK privately if you want to. One that is on the schedule for children that I don’t think is necessary is rotavirus, which is usually a standard D&V virus and only very rarely has complications. I refused that one for my children. But the big headliners that can cause death or real lasting damage are definitely required.
All that matters is your happy with your decision at the end of the day, I believe vaccines can increase the risk of auto immune issues, I’ve been speaking with an immunology consultant who said at the moment it’s likely more risk to vaccinate than not to, but that he isn’t allowed to write that as a recommendation because of the repercussions
Agreed, and without becoming locked in a dubious battle of wokeness with sleeper's, I guess some people will always blindly trust.
But when it come's to injecting unknown substance's, (some reported to have mercury within), into my healthy body by proven incompetent evil a hole's well then im out, Thanks for the offer.
But when it come's to injecting unknown substance's, (some reported to have mercury within), into my healthy body by proven incompetent evil a hole's well then im out, Thanks for the offer.
You are eating sodium, a caustic explosive, on a daily basis. Oxygen is a carcinogen.
I've said my piece. Challenging your logic or your points won't change your mind. It will just strengthen your position. That's the nature of confirmation bias.
Yes I do agree that adding a mercury based preservative to vaccines isn’t the best idea. Luckily I don’t think any UK vaccines currently carry Thiomersal any more.
For me it isn’t about blind trust. I’m well aware of big pharmacy’s shady tactics.
However, for me (and by default my children) it is about personal risk. A virus (whichever virus) with a high mortality rate and even higher long term complication rate vs a vaccine with adverse reaction rates thousands or tens of thousands times lower.
For me it isn’t about blind trust. I’m well aware of big pharmacy’s shady tactics.
However, for me (and by default my children) it is about personal risk. A virus (whichever virus) with a high mortality rate and even higher long term complication rate vs a vaccine with adverse reaction rates thousands or tens of thousands times lower.
Fear of what could happen... thats how they get you man...
If it aint broke dont fix it and stop living in fear.
But please feel free to inject till your eyeball's fall out... for me i think ill go all natural, hasn't let me down yet.
PS they have know the danger's of mercury long before they started injecting into people, SO THEN WHY DO IT or as you state the possibility are they still doing it?
If it aint broke dont fix it and stop living in fear.
But please feel free to inject till your eyeball's fall out... for me i think ill go all natural, hasn't let me down yet.
PS they have know the danger's of mercury long before they started injecting into people, SO THEN WHY DO IT or as you state the possibility are they still doing it?
Absolute state of this thread.
I for one hope we achieve George Orwell.
He was an incredibly talented man, with balanced political views who fought for things he believed in.
I for one hope we achieve George Orwell.
He was an incredibly talented man, with balanced political views who fought for things he believed in.
The sorts of dodgy, unscientific, uneducated, viewpoints, expressed with so much certainty on this thread are one of the major reasons why cannabis is still illegal.
If anyone wants to improve their knowledge of how all this stuff works, I strongly recommend Bad Science by Ben Goldacre.
If anyone wants to improve their knowledge of how all this stuff works, I strongly recommend Bad Science by Ben Goldacre.
I’m just intrigued... how many of you either smoke cigarettes and/or mix your cannabis with tobacco? My point being that there is absolutely no doubt that smoking is a bigger risk to life than a vaccine.
I’ve had 15 plus vaccines in my life and zero adverse reactions/ongoing health issues. My parents have both received covid jabs (Oxford/AstraZeneca and Pfizer) and have had zero side effects. Oh and guess what the best bit is... they’re now protected from covid! It’s truly mind blowing stuff. You see vaccines protect you from deadly illnesses whereas smoking causes deadly illnesses. Do you see where I’m going with this? Umm... yeah.
I’ve had 15 plus vaccines in my life and zero adverse reactions/ongoing health issues. My parents have both received covid jabs (Oxford/AstraZeneca and Pfizer) and have had zero side effects. Oh and guess what the best bit is... they’re now protected from covid! It’s truly mind blowing stuff. You see vaccines protect you from deadly illnesses whereas smoking causes deadly illnesses. Do you see where I’m going with this? Umm... yeah.
And not all covid vaccines are mRNA vaccines. In fact the most widely distributed vaccine in the UK (known as the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine) is not mRNA. It should also be noted that an mRNA vaccine IS still a vaccine, it’s just a vaccine that works in a different way
As for your points about mRNA... I’m afraid they were lost in the numerous spelling and grammatical errors that made some of your posts pretty incomprehensible.
The vaccines are new and scare you and you don’t trust the approval process. I get that but talk to any doctor currently working on intensive care units and I think you’ll quickly start to understand that covid is extremely real.
As for your points about mRNA... I’m afraid they were lost in the numerous spelling and grammatical errors that made some of your posts pretty incomprehensible.
The vaccines are new and scare you and you don’t trust the approval process. I get that but talk to any doctor currently working on intensive care units and I think you’ll quickly start to understand that covid is extremely real.
Of course its not a vaccine it totally diffeent it works.in a totally diffrent way. So by its own definition its not a vaccine. Its experimental
mRNA has never passed animal trials because of the damage is does. And because of there fake scamdemic they have rolled it out and guess who owns the private company who is in charge of passing such vaccines through the system.... some of the biggest investors in vaccines own the company who passes the vaccines for safe use . A conflict of intrest me thinks
There's loads of vaccines but they have never and will.never have a vaccine for a coronavirus regardless of what bs rhey spew out
Spelling and grammar have nothing to do with anything. So there's 7000 doctors and nurses asking rhe same question. It is not real if they cannot isolate the viral.particle they say is causing the deadly disease
And you’ve spoken directly to some of those 7000 have you or just read reports on some wacky old website somewhere?
Come on bigga's we all friend's here, if you want vaccine then take, if not, dont. Should be that simple. That's freedom of choice and shouldnt be forced.
It's just for me im feel fine and dont wont it, also i dont trust the cabalist type cult's pushing conflicting information which seem to be behind it and in the word's of dragons den "for that reason im out."
WISH YE ALL THE BEST!!!
It's just for me im feel fine and dont wont it, also i dont trust the cabalist type cult's pushing conflicting information which seem to be behind it and in the word's of dragons den "for that reason im out."
WISH YE ALL THE BEST!!!
Back to my original.point they have never isolated a viral particle they say is causing the infectious deadly disease
End of argument if someone can debunk me please do . But if your going share isolation papers make.sure the methodology doesn't include antibiotics. ... I garantee u no such paper exists
End of argument if someone can debunk me please do . But if your going share isolation papers make.sure the methodology doesn't include antibiotics. ... I garantee u no such paper exists
Yeah, but this is natural man.
And my body told me it was the best medicine for me.
(/s just in case)
And my body told me it was the best medicine for me.
(/s just in case)
Please ask Daddy for his thoughts on this?.. I’m sure he can dispel any fears?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=u-Sni_R-234
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=u-Sni_R-234
I don't really understand why you refer to my Dad as Daddy other than to attempt to patronise. I also won't be giving my or my dad's opinion on a video which seems to be discussing an American issue. I should also mention that as it seems to be discussing exemptions from vaccinations and possible imposed vaccinations, that I am fully in support of peoples individual choice to be vaccinated.
Thank you and have a lovely day... go and enjoy a beer at a pub or something! :)
Thank you and have a lovely day... go and enjoy a beer at a pub or something! :)
Lol
Ok I don’t drink yawn
I was just hoping he would be able to fact check it 4me :) it could help people..?
Ok I don’t drink yawn
I was just hoping he would be able to fact check it 4me :) it could help people..?
Well at least we agree on the drinking side of things! ;)
As for fact checking, I think there’s plenty of info out there for people to look at and arguably most people will draw on the information they find that best suits their own narrative/perception of reality anyway. That is in no way a dig just something that I think has become ever more evident in the last year or so.
Me? I’ll stick with listening to the opinions of people who have studied this stuff, as I believe the majority aren’t paid off by corrupt governments/those with commercial interests. But that’s just my view and I’m not one for believing that everyone’s a saint so I could well be wrong.
Ultimately differing views and opinions are, in my mind, what enables us to maintain some sort of status quo and I believe humanity will never be perfect. I find it interesting to hear others viewpoints and think it would be boring if we all shared identical realities.
Anyway... don’t go for a beer. Instead roll a spliff, pack a bong, toke a vape, enjoy a dab or whatever your preferred method of consumption is and enjoy life. All the best. :)
As for fact checking, I think there’s plenty of info out there for people to look at and arguably most people will draw on the information they find that best suits their own narrative/perception of reality anyway. That is in no way a dig just something that I think has become ever more evident in the last year or so.
Me? I’ll stick with listening to the opinions of people who have studied this stuff, as I believe the majority aren’t paid off by corrupt governments/those with commercial interests. But that’s just my view and I’m not one for believing that everyone’s a saint so I could well be wrong.
Ultimately differing views and opinions are, in my mind, what enables us to maintain some sort of status quo and I believe humanity will never be perfect. I find it interesting to hear others viewpoints and think it would be boring if we all shared identical realities.
Anyway... don’t go for a beer. Instead roll a spliff, pack a bong, toke a vape, enjoy a dab or whatever your preferred method of consumption is and enjoy life. All the best. :)
I won't be taking it, Bill.Gates and his wife had several court cases against them because of his vaccines,either people don't know or they forget too quick.
Childhood vaccines contain ingredients also known to cause anaphylactic shock, they can and do cause death, yet the diseases they prevent against are no longer life threatening, people don’t even stop to look at the evidence, eg incidence of childhood deaths in the last 10 years from vaccine vs the disease, that’s how I made my decision for my family, I’m not anti vax, I’m pro life and pro information :)
There is hope, well said katy, who remembers Thalidomide for morning sickness, truly saddening subject and terrible government involvement, Or perhaps the mercury clock and lead house paint. Humans have lived for a very long time without vaccine's because of naturally strengthened/evolved immune systems, it's only very recent in the scope of humanity that ADHD, dementia, down syndrome, Autism etc. have become rife. I never new anyone with Autism at any level during my younger day growing now im older it seems a large number the younger generations have it.
:) stay on the path :)
:) stay on the path :)
You never saw anyone with autism when you were younger because it was considered good medical practice to lock them up in asylums.
Sincerely, someone who works with people who have learning disabilities.
Sincerely, someone who works with people who have learning disabilities.
I’ve been wanting to raise issues about this mRNA because of past trails showing when re infected the body has an overwhelming immune response and attacks it’s self, this is well known at a high level within the medical and scientific community and there is huge concern and at least 2 pro vaccine Drs have died within days of the vaccine that I’ve heard of so far, the implications will not be made known for months, I believe once the second dose or another wave of the virus and we may see mass deaths. On both Moderna and phizer they have some seriously dangerous affiliations and a very bad track record which would be a good place to start researching, just don’t use google or YouTube as you will only get censored information. I don’t need to hide behind another name or argue with anyone, but please research if you feel any of this may makes sense to you. There is also a government vaccine injury scheme in the UK and a site JABS where these government pay out schemes that have won and certified the damage to be attributed to the vaccines. I too have worked for most of my career with SEN children and have no doubt some issues have been caused by their vaccine schedules, but that is my opinion. Maybe look at the cases and the reports of injury from the ingredients on yellow card to see what effects they may have
My masters in psychology and rudimentary knowledge of medicine tells me otherwise. Not trying to start a flame war on LB, though. You are (of course) entitled to your view.
My master's in common sense and rudimentary knowledge of bullshit tell's me something fishy has been going on this last year and if you dont see that i wonder how the hell ever got a cert-ificate in anything, and damn you for starting flame war on LB :)
what a fantastic self-own. i suppose this was already a flame war, I don't want exacerbate it. if you'd like to have a reasonable discussion about this, fine. I don't claim to be the arbiter of scientific knowledge but I certainly know a thing or two about learning disabilities, which is something you brought into the conversation.
Thank you and same to you. You could look up historical MRNA trial outcomes if you are interested.
exhausting... i think im done... like you say can only lead a horse to water.... :)
Have a good day all
peace and love.
Have a good day all
peace and love.
They where still locking them away in 2000, I think not. Here you go bud, just blown your statement out of the water with a few click's of me buttons. It has certainly increased.
https://www.google.com/search?client=opera&hs=m31&ei=eekbYIKML_7O1fAPtZGF6Ag&q=autism+raising+numbers&oq=autism+raising+numbers&gs_lcp=CgZwc3ktYWIQDFAAWABg4IIFaABwAngAgAGtAYgBrQGSAQMwLjGYAQCqAQdnd3Mtd2l6wAEB&sclient=psy-ab&ved=0ahUKEwjCrLm6ntDuAhV-ZxUIHbVIAY0Q4dUDCAw
https://www.google.com/search?client=opera&hs=m31&ei=eekbYIKML_7O1fAPtZGF6Ag&q=autism+raising+numbers&oq=autism+raising+numbers&gs_lcp=CgZwc3ktYWIQDFAAWABg4IIFaABwAngAgAGtAYgBrQGSAQMwLjGYAQCqAQdnd3Mtd2l6wAEB&sclient=psy-ab&ved=0ahUKEwjCrLm6ntDuAhV-ZxUIHbVIAY0Q4dUDCAw
'autism' has been used as a diagnostic term for less than 50 years. it is par of the course that diagnoses would increase. common sense.
yeah there's a link but wouldn't let me add to link's so just pasted, it's to info on rising case's and your right just diagnoses would show raising figure's as is happening now with covid case's but what i'm really saying is i've seen it with my own eye's increase in a time when people where not hidden away by medical professional and the like's.
Namaste.
Namaste.
Just had the Pfizer vaccine yesterday... 24 hours in and all ok so far! Aching arm, tiredness and a bit of dizziness. Hopefully that’s the worst of it.
Have you watched the you tube link? Sounds like they are finding more to back up the idea that childhood vaccines are causing neurological and auto immune problems. Esp in families where one child is damaged so the next child didn’t get them, guess what? The second child is a lot healthier! It’s mind blowing isn’t it? Hope your ok https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=u-Sni_R-234
Itd an MRNA vaccine which is not a vaccine ee have never had an MRNA vaccine pass animal trials but yet here we are straightbto human with no testing on long term.effects .... fuck.rhe vaccine . O saw someone say rhey trust the scientists holly fuckthats crazy
And the BIG factor here the virus has never been isolated and proven to exist even the Chinese say rhey never isolated a virus . So we are discussing taking a "vaccine" for a virus thats never been isolated hmmmm why is this even being considered
Prove it use the freedom.of information act and request thr isolation paper for the sars-cov2 viral particle they say is causing the disease . The papers you are referring to the isolation also included antibiotics and what do antibiotics do .... they break down cells and thats what they are calling there isolation . Its not rhe viral.particle breaking down cells in scientific studies its the fucking antibiotics. Please if u have access to a isolation of a sars-cov2 purification paper please share because its never been done .
No, sorry. I'm talking about the genomic sequencing of the original virus and of the various strains. You have to isolate the virus to do this. You said it hasn't ever been isolated, which is completely false.
Antibiotics have nothing to do with viruses, other than treating secondary infections. Antibiotics break down bacterial cells. Viruses invade human cells and force the cell to replicate the virus.
I'm sorry Jimmy, but you (and some others on here) have made it pretty clear throughout this thread that you have no knowledge of science of medicine, I don't mean that as a dig and I don't mean in it a derogatory way, why would anyone know anything about science or medicine, but this sort of wilful ignorance and the spreading of this sort of misinformation is exactly what's leading to illness and death of others.
Antibiotics have nothing to do with viruses, other than treating secondary infections. Antibiotics break down bacterial cells. Viruses invade human cells and force the cell to replicate the virus.
I'm sorry Jimmy, but you (and some others on here) have made it pretty clear throughout this thread that you have no knowledge of science of medicine, I don't mean that as a dig and I don't mean in it a derogatory way, why would anyone know anything about science or medicine, but this sort of wilful ignorance and the spreading of this sort of misinformation is exactly what's leading to illness and death of others.
Where is the papers suggesting there is a viral.partical causing infectious disease where isthe isolation paper its doesn't exist. Plus the only experiments or purification was done mixed with antibiotics they have never showed an isolated viral.particle breaking down healthy cells. Its always the antibiotics. Again it has never been purified and shown to exist now if u can find the isolation paper that would shut me up please post it . Am telling you it doesn't exist there's no such paper
Yeah, you have obviously looked into this with wider eye's than other's and thats just the tip of incompetence. I say incompetence but i believe they know what they are doing...
Biggas, you have an option to take a few minutes to search this information and make your searches using uncensored information platforms.
You can take a horse to water but you cannot make it drink!
You can take a horse to water but you cannot make it drink!
I want to be positive and say that I hope this vaccine works. One good thing for me, and perhaps its not the most humanitarian approach, but I am glad I am not first in line for the vaccine. I want to see how it all transpires over the next 4-5 months and then maybe we will all be a bit more informed. If all is well, I will probably take it, in the hope life can be somwhat normal again, aka, pre 2020.
Then again, may it will all go a bit 'I am Legend' and it will turn us all into zombies....
Then again, may it will all go a bit 'I am Legend' and it will turn us all into zombies....
Zombies may be a step up from is around the corner, I’d wait until second doses have been given and death numbers counted, also maybe good to wait to see what happens to the vaccine victims if they get re infected with covid as those two factors seem to drive the immune overload and sometimes death