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did world war 2 merely stall an inevitable trend of fascism?
And what does that tell you about the New York Times? That it's lying about Trump? Or is it just trying to mislead its readers by implying stuff that it has no evidence of... Do the same examination of other rumor-spreading fake news organizations and make your own determination, folks. See which ones allow readers to comment on their "stories" and articles. See which ones never present both sides of an argument. Decide which ones can be relied upon for actual news (all of it) and which ones actually suppress news.
There is no news that can be relied upon this is why the reader needs to take in multiple sources and viewpoints.
i think its a really mega trend. fascism was a reaction to kingdoms turning into modern nations. this time populism is a result of modern nations turning into global pieces.
Yes and there's the industrial revolution and digital revolutions as waves underneath these.
First thing to do is find out what "fascism" is. Most people are clueless about that. One excellent example of a fascist organization is Antifa (what an ironic name). Their goal is to shut down opposing ideas by force, and that's what fascist governments do (again, look up the word in the fucking dictionary). If you're going to accuse someone of being fascist, you need to show examples of fascist behavior. Guess who I'm vaguely referring to here...
Even Eisenhower, the General who defeated fascism saw what would happen. He became the President of the US and devoted his farewell speech to a warning of the future he correctly saw.
Forget Ike, Benjamin Franklin saw what would happen after helping write the constitution. He saw it as a temporary document that would require re-writing.
"it is likely to be well administered for a course of years, and can only end in Despotism"
As if it to prove the words they have been suppressed since he wrote them.
"it is likely to be well administered for a course of years, and can only end in Despotism"
As if it to prove the words they have been suppressed since he wrote them.
Its Franklin's Final Speach On The Constitution. What a guy, should be an inspiration for every bigga.
World War I was a fascist nightmare in the United States with Wilson and his cronies using it to attack all of their domestic enemies: African Americans, organized labor and immigrants. It was all documented by the media and no one cared. Helped us get where we are today as much as anything.
That's what happened in 2016, and it's a good beginning. More people are finding out that they've been lied to, and the liars are in full panic mode at this point.
tldr they are living with their parents and screen addicted
27 posts
+114 votes
can the USA be fixed?
can the USA be fixed?
in England we grew up loving American cowboy movies and the hero was always the same: quiet, cool and strong. to an outsider it seems this guy is dead and the cunt that owns the town and is always looking for more is the new America
Yes, if people like the ones at Emmanuel AME Church in Charleston become leaders.
Nasa is the best ambassador the US has, if they took 1/3 of the military budget and put into space travel the US would be back like Jordan.
Space travel for what? Branson is going to operate consumer flights, but how many times can billionaires fly to ISS before they get bored? Not many people can afford $150k for a short vacation.
tourism will always remain in the back seat. the commercialization of space has been about serving the planet as a whole with communications, its brought up the un-cabled world just like mobile phones have brought up the last mile. there is huge potential in energy production and distribution coming next.
Elon Musk estimates 5-10 years to get to Mars. At present the cost is $1 Billion per ton, so it'd need to be 1/1000th of the cost, apparently. The ship will also need to be reusable.
Traveling Mars is also not a point and shoot mission. You have to coordinate launches with the alignment of the planets' orbits to travel the shortest distance and not fly past the sun. This also requires a stay on Mars as you wait for safe realignment after landing. Current technology estimates a 21 month round-trip given a ~3 month stay on Mars. Money is not the biggest hurdle.
go open source, add new states, virtual citizenship and most of all healthy competition with other nations not war
Competition in what? Our largest industries are healthcare and pharma. Getting Americans to change is a huge hurdle.
competition for new citizens, with decreasing population the game is going to change and the usa at least remembers how to play
No, this country is cursed, theres a lot of bad karma waiting.
k-rino has a nice rap-recap on this
k-rino has a nice rap-recap on this
outlaw political donations there's plenty of free coverage to get the pitches across anyway.
The population grew to large. The citizen / individual is now a defunct concept. Group politics prevail. Democracy is dead.
americas greatness came from common values attracting immigration from around the planet. make that again and yall have a chance
3 posts
+17 votes
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mj3b1 lewis
American's Need a License to Use Mathematics
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mj3b1 lewis
American's Need a License to Use Mathematics
It seems everything that brought America its great success is disappearing. What does the US have without immigration and a can-do spirit?
5 posts
+21 votes
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theStrokes
Cornel West on America's Existential Crisis
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theStrokes
Cornel West on America's Existential Crisis
America's best social philosopher saw this coming but can't let go of hope.
Great thinker, great journalist too in Chris Hedges. But they are old thinkers. Completely ignorant of the potential of crypto anarchy solutions to the problems they see.
Cornel West is a laughingstock racist posing as a philosopher. His ideas are moronic. See Thomas Sowell if you want some edification.
why are you compelled to compare him to another black man with unrelated ideas? now that's some racism.
14 posts
+21.2 votes
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cschoooli
As a black person should I avoid visiting the US?
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cschoooli
As a black person should I avoid visiting the US?
I have 3 weeks off this August and would like to see the United States for the 1st time. I can get a visa but I am worried about hassles from immigration, the police, etc based on everything I see that happens there. It’s not a cheap trip and if there’s a chance it’s going to get ruined I’s rather go somewhere else even though I have always wanted to drive across America.
When people talk about America, they speak as if it’s all one place but it’s actually different states all over so if you can imagine Texas can be Scotland and California is England. So what we see on the news doesn’t happen in every state as some states have a lot of mixed communities in comparison to others. So I guess you would be fine in general just be careful where you go.♥️
I felt exactly the same as a mixed race guy with a few Arab country trips under my belt. It's a different situation, but immigration particularly worried me.
Then I went to Vegas and did a bit of a Harley Davison road trip. I found nothing but warm generosity from everyone I met along the way. As those above, people of all races went out of their way to be more kind and helpful than I've ever experienced at home.
Then I went to Vegas and did a bit of a Harley Davison road trip. I found nothing but warm generosity from everyone I met along the way. As those above, people of all races went out of their way to be more kind and helpful than I've ever experienced at home.
It's not as bad as it looks on tv! Black people are a hugely important part of American culture and the object of love and admiration across a lot of different sub cultures. The immigration and law enforcement officers you are talking about are very likely to be African American themselves.
Yes there are some places where the inner city conflicts with the suburbs and its surely a racial situation but that's an isolated phenomenon and is unlikely to come up on your trip.
Enjoy the states and if you are going to make it to Chicago hit me up :)
Yes there are some places where the inner city conflicts with the suburbs and its surely a racial situation but that's an isolated phenomenon and is unlikely to come up on your trip.
Enjoy the states and if you are going to make it to Chicago hit me up :)
I’m a white American leftist, and I’ve got my eye on social policy all over the place. Obviously America is reckoning with its generations-old, overt racist culture right now, but that doesn’t mean you shouldn’t go see a gorgeous country. Wherever you go, the police will likely be 100% dogshit because that’s what police are. Absolute bottom line, I hope this post is old as fuck because PLEASE don’t travel, PLEASE don’t push these guidelines for COVID
You should be fine, just avoid Washington and Oregon if possible. They aren't the most welcoming.
You're not likely to get any hassles from immigration. As for the police, you should be OK. The precaution you'll have to take with them will be to a) avoid as discreetly as possible and, b) if they do engage you, cooperate at all times and never be argumentative in any way. If you have a legit problem with an American officer, take it up through legal channels AFTER the incident. Never during. That is a sure way to escalate.
Follow the rules above, and you'll be fine. Road trips highly recommended!
Follow the rules above, and you'll be fine. Road trips highly recommended!
From my experience at first police may be arms house,
No good cop bad cop both will be bad cop. But once they hear your accent and you tell them you ain’t no N****** but a black man from UK they will change and you be ok.
No good cop bad cop both will be bad cop. But once they hear your accent and you tell them you ain’t no N****** but a black man from UK they will change and you be ok.
Yeah, my thoughts exactly. Once the accent is evident and they know you are a tourist there should be no hassle, provided you are breaking no laws - also something to be careful with since laws vary from state to state. Smoke safe, smoke free.
It's not to that degree at all. Some may go out of their way to accommodate you out of shame.
Have an awesome time, in the south you will be the majority race in most situations (at least the fun ones).
Just remember when someone asks "how is your day going?" it means you should be reaching for a tip. ;)
Just remember when someone asks "how is your day going?" it means you should be reaching for a tip. ;)
6 posts
+28.2 votes
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howlateisnow
The year after 9/11 1,500 Americans died on the road to avoid the fate of the 246 passengers killed.
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howlateisnow
The year after 9/11 1,500 Americans died on the road to avoid the fate of the 246 passengers killed.
That's exactly where leadership is supposed to do it's job, instead of assuaging fears the American leaders used them to get the war machine going.
Great stuff here: "We hardly notice the half-million children quietly dying each year from rotavirus, Bill Gates once observed—the equivalent of four 747s full of children every day."
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+2 votes
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ike
California Town Declares Itself a ‘Constitutional Republic'
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ike
California Town Declares Itself a ‘Constitutional Republic'
Whatever the American federal government does it faces opposition from one of 50 states.
These stories will all seem like jokes at first...
These stories will all seem like jokes at first...
3 posts
+12 votes
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wells
The Second War on Terror
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wells
The Second War on Terror
Congress is using the capitol attack to create new laws to spy on American citizens. Just what America needs.
Glen Greenwald is America's important journalist, he saw the 1st war on terror and what it would do to the country. His work with Edward Snowden is historic.
It's worse this time, the left is using it as a political tool against the right. So long America,, and thanks for all the burgers.
1 post
+2.2 votes
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doc holiday
37% of Americans Want To Secede
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doc holiday
37% of Americans Want To Secede
this map shows those who would rather break into regional groups
24 posts
+61.8 votes
How To Control Guns
How To Control Guns
To effect gun control leaders already controlling guns simply need to set an example.
Simply replace dumb offensive weapons with intelligent defensive ones.
Attackers can be disabled with sound, electrical impulse (a laser to the eyeball goes a long way), gas, anything but hot lead is relative progress.
A huge industry is waiting once this direction is set and it’s a rare example where a leader can set something so important in motion. A police force equipped with such weapons would not only save lives it would restore confidence, replacing fear with respect.
Like any old technology guns will inevitably become obsolete, outmaneuvered by weapons that save lives. Even in the worst case the result is a technological arms race, with one side committed to protection - an outcome far better than shoot outs and more deaths every day, most often at the hands of those intending to uphold a form of peace.
Simply replace dumb offensive weapons with intelligent defensive ones.
Attackers can be disabled with sound, electrical impulse (a laser to the eyeball goes a long way), gas, anything but hot lead is relative progress.
A huge industry is waiting once this direction is set and it’s a rare example where a leader can set something so important in motion. A police force equipped with such weapons would not only save lives it would restore confidence, replacing fear with respect.
Like any old technology guns will inevitably become obsolete, outmaneuvered by weapons that save lives. Even in the worst case the result is a technological arms race, with one side committed to protection - an outcome far better than shoot outs and more deaths every day, most often at the hands of those intending to uphold a form of peace.
There have been attempts to make guns smarter. It seems they have been stymied by legislators that tried to make them mandatory before they even got on the market. Then the NRA got busy.
Guns are not the problem, they never have been. Why not start laying the blame where it belongs, with the people using a gun to kill and injure other people. A gun doesn’t kill or injure anybody unless a human being is pulling the trigger. Of course, the left wants you to believe everything would be flowers and sunshine if we only got rid of the mean, evil guns. You’re right about one thing, control. People are a lot easier to control if they can’t defend themselves. Of course that kind of logic is taboo for the left. Fear mongering and race baiting are the left’s weapons of choice. The left are the biggest racists on the planet. People forget that if not for the right, the civil rights act never would have made it to Johnson’s desk to sign into law. Who was opposed to it, most of the Democrats. There were active members of the KKK in congress and they were Democrats. Am l saying there are no racists on the right. Of course l am not, but the left would have you believe their shit doesn’t stink. It’s just sad that such a large group of people are fooled by their bullshit.
Humans aren't equipped physically or emotionally to comprehend the speed at which a gun can take a life and devastate the lives of *all* those involved.
It's not about left or right. It isn't about racist or not racist. It's about the value of human life and the callous destruction of it.
It's not about left or right. It isn't about racist or not racist. It's about the value of human life and the callous destruction of it.
You are partially correct; Guns are not the problem…..the bullets are. It’s bullets that kill. Let the loons have/keep their guns. Just get rid of the ammo (not easy I know, but spring it on the population in a surprise move and watch the killings drop).
Where is that the money maid by the Police, lawyers, Medical industries, air ambulance is what $4K a trip?
Why don’t you take another English grammar course. My 4 year old niece speaks and writes english better than yourself.
Because it's the only reason we still have a democracy. The country's fore fathers knew this. That's why they put it in the constitution. Fuck the living document bullshit. If you think things would be so great without guns, take a look at what's happened in the past. Stalin killed more of his own people than were killed during the Second World War. The only reason he was able to it was by disarming the population first. Same story with China and Cambodia. Chairman Mao loved committing genocide, to the tune of 40 million. Pol Pot did away with 2 million. What is the common denominator? One and all disarmed. If you think things would be so great if we think past guns, instead of looking at what happened when the people were disarmed. You need to look backwards, or better yet, go talk to some of those people. Oh wait, you can't. Dead men, women and children tell no tales.
A few bad actors don't prove your point. Look at Europe, the home of democracy. We don't have guns, our democracy is less under threat than in the states, we don't live in fear in our homes, we rarely have police shootings and we don't have countless gun crimes day in day out.
If there were no guns, how would the history of China, Cambodia, Russia, the US and countless others be different?
Non violence is the future.
If there were no guns, how would the history of China, Cambodia, Russia, the US and countless others be different?
Non violence is the future.
Yes, defense against government was the reason and made plenty of sense when the tech was there in the 18th century. But do you think an armed citizenry has even a tiny chance against the American military now? If so let me know who you buy from here cause I want some of that shit :)
They said the same thing about North Vietnam. Look at how that turned out. The same thing is happening right now in Afghanistan. If you’re fighting for something you believe in, anything is possible. You talked about the revolutionary war. It was the same situation. Our fore fathers believed their cause was just so they took up arms and went to war against the most powerful nation in the world at that time. We didn’t even have a standing professional army, yet we won our freedom when nobody would have thought we had any chance of defeating our foes. You also have to take into account if the army would go to war against the people who they swore to protect. If the order is given, l really doubt they would kill their fellow Americans.
Remember who was backing the 13 Colonies,,,, France and the French Army..... out of the goodness of their French hearts ? Your forefathers had the Catholic Spanish to the south, The Catholic French to the North. As Puritans, your forefathers would have taken up arms against their own shadows during those dangerous times. Today is not comparable to then,,, Your Bill of Rights is so outdated. Hence you have such terrible gun problems. My opinion and not a rant,,, Love to all x
It’s expensive. $500 for a grenade. Things like stingers are in the hundreds of thousands dollars range. It’s possible to get anything you want, even tactical nukes are on the table as well. I thought it was bullshit till l saw one. That’s right boys and girls, there are rogue nukes on American soil. You’re talking 10’s of millions of dollars for one of them After seeing it l thought someone would kill me for that very reason. I try to avoid thinking about it otherwise l’ll go off the deep end.
No If Everybody had to ware a gun and soon the dumbest and t, most unrespectful humans will not pass there unwanted gene's on as many as they now do
You know you are right the only catch is that the dumbest are little children
I am wrong. You’re the end result of inbreeding, that’s the only way to explain why you’re this stupid.
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Normally, l would respond to your pseudo, new age crap with logic and facts, but there's no point in wasting my time. I'm sure it would send you running to your safe space. Do everybody a favor and stay there. I'll hang on to my arsenal and sleep soundly knowing whoever makes the mistake of confronting me won't be around to do it to someone else.
2 posts
+7 votes
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de tok
Whatever happened to apathy?
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de tok
Whatever happened to apathy?
This polarized world is just what our parents wished for, they always bitched how people didn't care about politics or have an opinion about society.
Be careful what you wish for
Be careful what you wish for
Herbert Yardley and The "Black Chamber"
Lewis Lapham is right on. If we can just recognize fear and understand it instead of judging we can fix this.
And it's marketed in very sophisticated ways through social media. This article explains how it works.
I agree. There is individual fear, and collective fear. Individuals in America have stressful lives and poor parenting for the majority. Individual fears that hold people back include fear of death, fear of failure, fear of inadequacy (not being good enough). Mass fear includes fear of authority, fear of pandemics, fear of being taken over as a country. Fear can be dealt with by acknowledging and facing the fear with nonresistance. Still, fears are often not recognized because they are not on a conscious level. I do believe that meditation, psychedelic therapy, and transpersonal therapy can uncover subconscious fears and be released from their power.
State-sponsered fear is not unique to the US. Capitalism and communism both generate fear, but in the US, where capitalism has run amok, it is more subtle. US citizens tend to believe that they live in a democracy, yet there has been no progress in the 1 percenters sharing resources with the middle class and poor. Individuals have less rights to express their views because the powers at be that transcend political parties control the agenda of the media and the government. Through TV and other newspapers, citizens are programmed to live their lives in a controlled state of mind. The most pertinent of issues do not make the headlines. I could elaborate more, but just note that societal fear is a response to the denigration of individual rights, where the average citizen thinks that nothing they do or say will be acknowledged or change anything.
4 posts
+21 votes
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vbitter
America Even Has Black Ops Forrest Rangers
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vbitter
America Even Has Black Ops Forrest Rangers
And they place cyanide bombs around National Lands.
10 posts
+47 votes
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foster
Preventing Medical Tyranny - What the US Constitution Almost Achieved
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foster
Preventing Medical Tyranny - What the US Constitution Almost Achieved
Constitution Signer Benjamin Rush: "Unless we put medical freedom into the constitution the time will come when medicine will organize into an undercover dictatorship and force people who wish doctors and treatment of their own choice to submit to only what the dictating outfit offers"
lol, ya'll really need to be more academic. No disrespect but the man educated over 3,000 medical professions, so if you happen to believe that such information of this quotation exists, it don't cause it ain't real.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Rush#Religious_views_and_vision
Also, this is not the first time Rush has been misquoted and characterized upon his views.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15981368
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Rush#Religious_views_and_vision
Also, this is not the first time Rush has been misquoted and characterized upon his views.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15981368
Also, here's who Rush really was http://www.szasz.com/freeman7.html piece out some qoutes and tell me this conception is consistent with him?
Medicine men have used their tricks for power since the 1st civilizations. Still a very impressive prediction though.
what rush really was saying, read some of his actual quotes http://www.szasz.com/freeman7.html
Theres also a lot of predictive programming going on.
Unless one is vigilant one can believe in stuff that does not exist YET... but...
Unless one is vigilant one can believe in stuff that does not exist YET... but...
28 posts
+81.5 votes
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ted
Can someone tell me why Americans think guns are the definition of freedom?
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ted
Can someone tell me why Americans think guns are the definition of freedom?
Americans are happy to devote decades of their lives to supporting an overseas war machine as they gobble up jingoistic bullshit in their media.
They are taxed and regulated as mush as socialist countries but get little benefits in return, all the while being spied on to a standard that would make the Gestapo proud.
They are fine with all of this damage to their liberty as long as they keep their guns, is this just some kind of penis fixation?
They are taxed and regulated as mush as socialist countries but get little benefits in return, all the while being spied on to a standard that would make the Gestapo proud.
They are fine with all of this damage to their liberty as long as they keep their guns, is this just some kind of penis fixation?
I don't expect many to understand, and it's not something you can relate to unless you've walked a similar path,but... during my traveling work days, I experienced more than once the need to carry a firearm.
permitted to carry concealed, allowed me the chance to go back home and see my family again.
you are entitled free speech and your freedom of views, just remember, the crime or bad folks don't follow ANY rules and could care less about your politics. take away the good man's right to protect himself, and become their next target, as security is just a word.
(understand that police have NO obigation to protect you or your family, they strictly uphold the law...)
permitted to carry concealed, allowed me the chance to go back home and see my family again.
you are entitled free speech and your freedom of views, just remember, the crime or bad folks don't follow ANY rules and could care less about your politics. take away the good man's right to protect himself, and become their next target, as security is just a word.
(understand that police have NO obigation to protect you or your family, they strictly uphold the law...)
I'll go with the penis fixation. I don't own a gun - don't want one - guns are for killing. It's the second amendment in the American Bible, er, "Bill of Rights". Funny thing is that the pro-life people are usually pro-gun. Just doesn't make sense.
Guns do not kill... the person using it KILLS... I use them to kill clay pigeons. and just imagine it's someone i hate. lol ;)
I am not black but I am a 6'5' 300+ pound white mail. when I get out of my car I have yet seen my public servent have his on his gun when he see's me. I have never been shot , but I have been scared you never know when They might get scared and shoot. I am always as helpful and curtice I can makke cause I want to live and pissing of armed cops is not a healthy way to live. When they start treating you like shit , remember it will you a lot more then it will him.
Not saying you're fat but it's interesting that fat white dudes are credible rappers and also eyed by the police like black dudes.
Because freedom is only delivered through the end of a gun (unfortunately)
And if you don’t have a gun someone with a gun will take your freedom away
The only part of history you can guarantee is true freedom comes at the end of a sword/gun
And if you don’t have a gun someone with a gun will take your freedom away
The only part of history you can guarantee is true freedom comes at the end of a sword/gun
It was a rural place and hunting was very common. If you start from that perspective and then think of the government coming in and taking the guns away you start to understand.
It might be useful to differentiate the American people and American foreign policy. It seems you have conflated the two, whereas looking at the American people and domestic policy might yield better results. Guns are completely illegal in China and as we all know, China is one of the most liberated places to live on the planet! The second amendment in the US was created to provide a constitutional check on congressional power was as an auxiliary right, supporting the natural rights of self-defense and resistance to oppression. My family live in the USA and right now, gun ownership is anything from a penis fixation, it's security and peace of mind. I would rather get shot than stabbed any day of the week. Knife crime is equally as concerning in my book.
I'm hoping that you picked up the sarcasm in my 'China is liberated' comment. Reading it back, it doesn't come across too clearly.
hear ya my friend. thought i was doing the same ;) with your comment. i read it both ways (with/without sarcasm) I wouldn't criticise either. just own my private thoughts lol. stay as safe as this "Pandemic" will let you. Gaz
1. The Wild West is recent history in a young nation and was really really wild. Ditto the Civil War.
2. Hollywood is real. The good guy always shoots the bad guy. (With armed private citizens this is hardly ever the outcome, but who cares about reality?)
3. A lot of yanks are cunts?
2. Hollywood is real. The good guy always shoots the bad guy. (With armed private citizens this is hardly ever the outcome, but who cares about reality?)
3. A lot of yanks are cunts?
2 posts
+11 votes
The activist dismantling racist police algorithms
The activist dismantling racist police algorithms
Hamid Khan is a controversial figure who has turned down partnerships with groups like the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) because of its emphasis on reform. He doesn’t believe reform will work.
10 posts
+63 votes
Ronald Reagan's Prophecy
Ronald Reagan's Prophecy
"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free."
Too bad he infringed on so many freedoms by turning police into bandits that keep what they "sieze"
The old man was not corrupt. At the time of his election privatization was a huge meme and was working well across the world for turning state owned industries into real businesses with better prices and service. Reagan thought economic incentive was the key to performance and any privatization was good.
So he was stupid and needs a break, cool why isn't that a defense for lesser crimes then? Because that don't pay.
And now a new generation is fighting for freedom from a militarized police force that Reagan enabled.
Absolutely true, the vast majority of people spend their entire lives arguing, debating and fighting over bullshit like "left vs right" and they are so caught up in it that they can't see that they aren't fighting any real issues whatsoever, just distracting themselves from the actual underlying problems!
we as a species have no enemies, the government and media are creating problems for people to divide over, because with this constant divide we will never be united enough to bring on a revolution.
we as a species have no enemies, the government and media are creating problems for people to divide over, because with this constant divide we will never be united enough to bring on a revolution.
2 posts
+4 votes
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Tenpester
What is American Freedom?
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Tenpester
What is American Freedom?
I know. It's a shit show in the USA for most things, and freedom,the american dream, home of the brave, most of that stuff is in the plumbing end of the toilet already.
But that's not what I'm talking about.
I'm an outsider here having spent most of my life outside of the USA but in many ways I feel strongly american. That's what gives me a basis for comparison of things like freedom. And why I say it's pretty fucking good, at least for immigrants and people that see through their eyes.
The difference is baggage, everyone that has moved here has left most of it at home. Parents, religion, class, reputation - this and more is deleted or at least rebooted; makes for a lot of freedom of thought, feeling and opportunity.
There's tons of high minded law written down by american governments but that all gets corrupted over time like anywhere else.
Generational stray kills the basic, immigrant's freedom too, especially when the pool of noobies gets smaller. But it's a slow, analog fade out, not the hot switch activated when law meets dollar.
There's still a perceptible amount of natural, "new country" freedom remaining, mostly because this stuff sucks even more in the older countries.
You could say "American Freedom" lives outside the USA as well, people that moves to a city with a different rule set have always experienced this, imagine arriving in Rome before they fucked that place up.
But that's not what I'm talking about.
I'm an outsider here having spent most of my life outside of the USA but in many ways I feel strongly american. That's what gives me a basis for comparison of things like freedom. And why I say it's pretty fucking good, at least for immigrants and people that see through their eyes.
The difference is baggage, everyone that has moved here has left most of it at home. Parents, religion, class, reputation - this and more is deleted or at least rebooted; makes for a lot of freedom of thought, feeling and opportunity.
There's tons of high minded law written down by american governments but that all gets corrupted over time like anywhere else.
Generational stray kills the basic, immigrant's freedom too, especially when the pool of noobies gets smaller. But it's a slow, analog fade out, not the hot switch activated when law meets dollar.
There's still a perceptible amount of natural, "new country" freedom remaining, mostly because this stuff sucks even more in the older countries.
You could say "American Freedom" lives outside the USA as well, people that moves to a city with a different rule set have always experienced this, imagine arriving in Rome before they fucked that place up.
12 posts
+73 votes
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ted
Calexit?
Well since reputation is everything around here, no this doesn't make sense. Civil war, been there done that.
Sure, first move is to occupy the Trump casino, the friday hooker flight will move our operatives in range.
Each one of us can declare their freedom at any time, we dont need a state's help for this. If we don't we are recognizing that we were subjagated at birth, it's really that simple.
7 posts
+21 votes
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zz87
Keep an eye on Minneapolis!
by
zz87
Keep an eye on Minneapolis!
This could end very badly. Trump had threatened to bring in the army and after referring to them again as "thugs" he tweeted "when looting starts, the shooting starts"... This tweet was hidden by Twitter (who he recently signed an order against to remove liable protections) so his war with them is ramping up... a CNN reporter was arrested at the protests after identifying as press but has since been released. The Police Department has been burned down. These protests began a couple of days a go and have been ongoing. The officer who killed George Floyd is still free.
Just for any one unaware the protests began after the murder of George Floyd and in the wake of the daily murders of innocent, unarmed black people by US police forces.
I'm getting concerned about this situation and because history shows us that the US can murder scores of black people in the street and have it forgotten about the next day I really would keep a close eye on this one....
Can you believe this is the country we have (apparently) chosen to side with going forward.... this is the country that wants our NHS and a fat new trade deal.... if this where happening anywhere else in the world things would be very different. Every single day our news shows us this shit coming out of America and we have no choice but to stomach it because we can't do anything and our gov is always in their pocket. I feel so bad for the Americans being kept down by these people, I don't even know what to say.... just please don't let this one go unnoticed.
And just hope it doesn't get as bad as it could.
Sorry for the downer topic but this matters. And the US is fucked.
Just for any one unaware the protests began after the murder of George Floyd and in the wake of the daily murders of innocent, unarmed black people by US police forces.
I'm getting concerned about this situation and because history shows us that the US can murder scores of black people in the street and have it forgotten about the next day I really would keep a close eye on this one....
Can you believe this is the country we have (apparently) chosen to side with going forward.... this is the country that wants our NHS and a fat new trade deal.... if this where happening anywhere else in the world things would be very different. Every single day our news shows us this shit coming out of America and we have no choice but to stomach it because we can't do anything and our gov is always in their pocket. I feel so bad for the Americans being kept down by these people, I don't even know what to say.... just please don't let this one go unnoticed.
And just hope it doesn't get as bad as it could.
Sorry for the downer topic but this matters. And the US is fucked.
So much of today reminds me of 20th century sci fi. The "former united" states of america is a regular theme: riots, anarchy and a greedy corporatocracy running everything.
They're definitely straying a bit too close to the edge, they'll do their best to take us all down with them too if it happens the bastards lol.
After 3 days of riots the officer has finally been arrested but even that's probably just because they can't keep him safe any more. 8pm curfew for the people living there now.... America is fucking bizarre.
Protests/riots have gone nationwide now, this is far from over.
After 3 days of riots the officer has finally been arrested but even that's probably just because they can't keep him safe any more. 8pm curfew for the people living there now.... America is fucking bizarre.
Protests/riots have gone nationwide now, this is far from over.
I've been living in Minneapolis for the past three months (British living in Australia usually) and I have to say, I've never seen anything quite like this. People are upset and rightly so; there is a systemic issue with racism in the Minneapolis (and probably many other cities and states) and people have had enough. No amount of comment about violent protesters and supremacists is going to distract the world from the real issue here; America has institutionalized racism throughout governmental (and non-governmental) bodies. The (majority of) police here disgust me. Trigger happy men, bullied as kids with a god complex, demanding respect because they hold a gun, and oppressing whomever they want without fear of retribution. The state of Minnesota continues to safeguard the liberty of 3 of the 4 involved in the killing last week, and the other is faced with charges that will mean he won't see in the inside of a jail cell.
I'm digsusted.
I'm digsusted.
I’m white dudeand I’ve been personally treated like a criminal and felt excessive force but not like that, I don’t think ppl in England realize how nice it is to have a conversation with a police officer
Thanks for sharing, the fact you can experience all of this in just 3months adds a lot of perspective I can't even begin to imagine what it must be like for the people who lived their whole lives there. The whole world seems to be on their side with this, even the UN, I hope the fact the world is watching will help keep people safe and help to bring justice and change but it's really not looking good so far. The people NEED to win this fight.
Take care of yourself over there mate.
Take care of yourself over there mate.
Still kicking off but not getting ignored thankfully. It's good to see people from other countries (including ours!) protesting outside US embassies in solidarity.
Been videos caught of police shooting innocent bystanders (stood in their own gardens) and people just out shopping with rubber bullets... apparently that makes it ok. Police driving into protestors. More choking with the knee. Lots of police butality I wont link to them but one safe to watch is this https://streamable.com/u2jzoo - does it get more "America" than that? Imagine that coming down your street telling you to get inside. He actually said "light 'em up" wtf?
Do we have any Americans on here? they're usually everywhere - be careful!
Been videos caught of police shooting innocent bystanders (stood in their own gardens) and people just out shopping with rubber bullets... apparently that makes it ok. Police driving into protestors. More choking with the knee. Lots of police butality I wont link to them but one safe to watch is this https://streamable.com/u2jzoo - does it get more "America" than that? Imagine that coming down your street telling you to get inside. He actually said "light 'em up" wtf?
Do we have any Americans on here? they're usually everywhere - be careful!
20 posts
+77 votes
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samCHED
Why is it so hard to forgive others?
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samCHED
Why is it so hard to forgive others?
The people of Hiroshima, Dresden, Afghanistan, Vietnam, most of Latin America, the list goes on forever and they have all forgiven the US for official actions that pale next to what a few lunatic terrorists have done. Yet the whole Muslim world including that within the US is hated and attacked endlessly.
Yes but they aren't even the demons anymore, the US just really needs enemies to kill or the guns come out at each other.
Truth. Altho all the borders drawn up by us brits after the second World War somewhat helped in creating those modern day situations
True. Before the Americans Islam endured British Colonization and before that the centuries long Crusades. Yeah they have done a some crazy shit especially at the fringes but the score is a fuckin blowout with the Christians scoring way, way more kills and it's still not enough.
And the basis of Christianity is forgiveness!
And the basis of Christianity is forgiveness!
I’ve cried every morning this week watching the news. Actually makes me feel abit ashamed to be white! Corruption on top of more fucking corruption the innocent suffer as the rich get richer but they have no soul
White guilt fuck that shit
Skin colour has nothing to do with it, humans get corrupted...there’s evil in every corner but there is also good fighting back regardless of colour.
Humans have a tendency to focus on the differences rather than the similarities...negative over positive...what separates us rather than connects us
Divide and conquer is upon us...don’t be fooled!
ALL LIVES MATTER!
Skin colour has nothing to do with it, humans get corrupted...there’s evil in every corner but there is also good fighting back regardless of colour.
Humans have a tendency to focus on the differences rather than the similarities...negative over positive...what separates us rather than connects us
Divide and conquer is upon us...don’t be fooled!
ALL LIVES MATTER!
I totally agree but white people have completely unknowingly and threw no fault of their own and of course in my opinion only clearly benefited from black people suffering and discriminated against over the colour of their skin which is of course ridiculous it’s the people at the top who are to blame but it’s everyone needs to stand together equal so they understand. I don’t think a white person has ever had to give up their seat on a bus purely based on skin colour. A lot has changed in the last 20/30 years I don’t agree with people saying it hasn’t and of course ALL lives matter but ALL lives won’t matter till black lives matter. Peace
All lives matter
Colour has nothing to do with it, this is perpetuating the problem by pitting one against the other. This is why we are in this mess to begin with and until people see that things will never change
White people aren't the only ones who have done wrong in terms of benefitting over others. Its a small part of a bigger picture
Colour has nothing to do with it, this is perpetuating the problem by pitting one against the other. This is why we are in this mess to begin with and until people see that things will never change
White people aren't the only ones who have done wrong in terms of benefitting over others. Its a small part of a bigger picture
Well I think if everyone just accepted things will never change slavery would still be a thing... I totally get where your coming from but respectfully have to disagree this has brung all races together to stand as one against the powers that be it’s beautiful to see.. yes All lives matter that’s the point is that black people have not been treated equally Black lives matter. This is their moment I think we should let them have it but you are completely entitled to your opinion no bad blood here :)
Oh you didn’t see those rioters attack that honest female shop owner then uh?
This situation is bringing the worst out in people because of their polarised views and beliefs
You can’t fight fire with fire as they say...fighting, rioting, looting is part of the problem...it’s why there needs to be law and order in the first place
This is bordering pathological hypocrisy
Yes no hard feelings bud, I’m not saying it to you as such or having a go as you sound as your heart is in the right place... I’m just letting it out, venting if you will
People get caught up in the swing of things and become the thing they hate or are that they’re fighting against ya see...only until we can see ourselves
This situation is bringing the worst out in people because of their polarised views and beliefs
You can’t fight fire with fire as they say...fighting, rioting, looting is part of the problem...it’s why there needs to be law and order in the first place
This is bordering pathological hypocrisy
Yes no hard feelings bud, I’m not saying it to you as such or having a go as you sound as your heart is in the right place... I’m just letting it out, venting if you will
People get caught up in the swing of things and become the thing they hate or are that they’re fighting against ya see...only until we can see ourselves
Ye no of course bud I don’t agree with the rioting and looting but 90% of protests are peaceful i in no circumstances condone violence. I’ve just always hated racism my ex was polish I live in a small welsh town and saw first hand how horrendous it can be. I’m white but was porn in South America Peru my godfather is Peruvian. I’m just venting to if there was no difference of opinion the world would be a boring place. I like a good debate :) your hearts clearly in the rite place to its a shame this is something that we still have to contemplate but there we go
Life’s to short
It would be boring without our uniqueness each person can bring but its a shame we all didn’t think the same way when it came to our differences
Live and let live, reach down to those who need a hand up...a rising tide raises all ships
It would be boring without our uniqueness each person can bring but its a shame we all didn’t think the same way when it came to our differences
Live and let live, reach down to those who need a hand up...a rising tide raises all ships
Agreed bud if we all saw difference as a good thing the world would be a better place :) stay safe peace
I just scan read this thread and then zoomed in because I read porn, sorry.
I’m so glad we are having a conversation about equality on here, all lives matter, I don’t know how else you can feel at peace,
no?
I once said being racist or any kind of prejudice is saying you are stupid, it’s not anything tangible that defines us for who we are.
One life, life is one.. trying not to say one love lol
I’m so glad we are having a conversation about equality on here, all lives matter, I don’t know how else you can feel at peace,
no?
I once said being racist or any kind of prejudice is saying you are stupid, it’s not anything tangible that defines us for who we are.
One life, life is one.. trying not to say one love lol
Just don't let this turn itself into "hate yourself for being white", that SHOULD be the complete opposite of the message.
That's racism against white people and a modern revival of the religious need to feel guilty. There's no race/country in the world (at least none on the bigger/more widespread) that hasn't done something horrible and shameful. Please stop all that negativity. White people are not that specially evil. Look around you and you will find great human beings. Stick with them and forget all the media and politicians bullshit
2 posts
+7 votes
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ted
NYPD Licenses City's Rappers
by
ted
NYPD Licenses City's Rappers
Want to play in NYC then make sure the police are happy with you.
2 posts
+6 votes
by
Han duo
Just How Much Would It Cost To Buy Congress Back From Special Interests?
by
Han duo
Just How Much Would It Cost To Buy Congress Back From Special Interests?
Just 14 billion according to this.
3 posts
+14 votes
Proven: US Democracy = What China imposes on Hong Kong
Proven: US Democracy = What China imposes on Hong Kong
.02% of the population nominates the candidates in both countries, leaving voters as chumps. In HK it's compliance with the Chines government that gets the nomination in the US it's compliance with the campaign's financiers.
I just saw the part where he shows there is no correlation between public support and legislation but a strong correlation between financial support and legislation, it's kind of mind blowing even if you're already jaded.
3 posts
+16 votes
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Jimmy ricard
Russians Miss How Easy It Is To Control US Gov
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Jimmy ricard
Russians Miss How Easy It Is To Control US Gov
All this lame Facebook propaganda is like an old KGB ploy, like spying and war gaming and the rest of the shit the Russian Gov wastes its time on.
Buy it, comrades, that's all you fucking have to do. Align your interests with powerful corporations and learn the cheap and easy game here. Wouldn't hurt your own business acumen either.
Buy it, comrades, that's all you fucking have to do. Align your interests with powerful corporations and learn the cheap and easy game here. Wouldn't hurt your own business acumen either.
