governments? no thanks, the 1st thing they do is make weapons (and the last thing they do is use them).
musk and bezos/their corporate sucessors? you're kidding.
think about this, space programs only really require lots of brains working together. yes there are materials costs but most of the work is figuring out how the hell to do it and then very carefully building it by hand.
now think how many people put their time into all the shit (and some of its good shit for sure) on github.
it seems we just need to think bigger and help each other do this, not wait for somebody to set up a racket.
I don't get the whole idea that the colonisation of Mars, possibly Titan or the Galilean moons should be viewed as somewhere to move too, because we fucked the Earth. Too many volcanoes on Io, anyway... (not the nice vapour giving kind.)
Lets face it, terraforming any potential worlds can't be an easier task than cleaning up our little pale blue dot. I know that we have already reached some major environmental/ climate tipping points, but if people just got a grip on reality, and got their priorities right, we'd be just fine on old Terra Firma.
I still think we should colonise as much of the solar system as we can. After all, there's lots of big rocks flying around out there. Confining ourselves to just one planet is asking for extinction.
The real test for our species comes down to working out how to travel faster than light before we all die of stupidity related causes... nukes, plagues, climate change, continuing to subscribe to political philosophies that are geared toward consuming everything.
Nothing like kicking back with a packed vape and The Expanse on Audible.
Terraforming Mars is a joke for people like Elon Musk to sift money from Americans, nothing else.
It makes no sense to build on mars, we're hundreds of years from having the tech (assuming our civilization can survive that long, it wont why would it?) and the logical answer is surely that space stations would be much 'easier', safer, more efficient and more controlled than using Mars.... which isn't even as 'simple' as being a "dead earth".
I doubt we have the capacity to ever become a truly space faring species. It'll never be like the sci-fi and that's absolutely fine! I'm with you. Fix the fucking Earth! We've already got the most beautiful planet within a trillion mile radius.
Been saving the latest series of The Expanse so I can binge the whole thing, it been good?
We could go to the dark heart of Chernobyl (taking that as an example of the most defiled place on Earth) and convert it into the Hanging Gardens Of Babylon, a true Paradise, for a tiny fraction of the cost, time and risk involved of creating a single habitable dome on Mars. We are so frikkin’ nuts! (no offence Pistach ! :))
You're right. Arthur C. Clarke touted the idea in one of the 2001 series. There's absolutely no reason that space elevators wouldn't work like a charm, once we have the knowhow and the engineering smarts to construct such an undertaking.
For those sceptics, it was also old Arty C who came up with the idea of geostationary orbits. Without him, the world would be a less well connected place. :-)
I'm so up for this. Always liked the idea of space travel but was put off by fear of the rockets bursting into flames. Getting an elevator up to a space station seems much more civilized. Hopefully there will be synth music and nice views on the way up.
Wasn't that lift idea in that movie ? errr what's it called... the one where two guys put on special glasses and can see the real world underneath the one we see. ? my memory after a dooby ....tut tut ...it's gone gone ...:)
The first, the "minimal" missions, would occur between 1976 and 1986 and would use Apollo-level (that is, 1970) technology. The second, the "extended" mission, which was tentatively scheduled to occur in the 1982-1986 time period, would require technologies beyond the Apollo state of the art.
Thanks, I looked this up because, well Trekkie here and I couldn't believe it. It turns out the drive was conceived in the 1990s in Mexico City. It reconciles with Einstein's field equations and has only gained momentum since. Here is a vid.
Hopefully the warp drive will give us a little bigger (pun not intended) perspective than you guys have. What hope do we have for getting out of the solar system when you think there is a difference between humans on different sides of our little planet?