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+81.2 votes
putin assassination strategies
That ain't filler. The man appears to be on a fairly big dose of steroids. I'd imagine he's quite unwell and probably not long for this world.

If he hasn’t got long, this makes him very dangerous. Coupled with the fact a lot of the drugs elderly take effect the mind without them knowing.

I fear ill health is wishful thinking. Looks like he's spent a bundle on plastic surgery to me. That said, it's probably better for a lot of people if he's not at death's door.

If only we could “fast forward to the bit where he shoots himself in the bunker”…..followed by eternal damnation in the flames of Hell fire with a red hot pitchfork up his bum hole.
Seems fair 👍
Seems fair 👍

Biden laughing all the way to the bank. While UK, Europe suffers...
Ukraine is too kind to fight Russia for the USA/West.
USA don't want Nord stream 1 or 2 to exist! And voile it's happening now!
Ukraine is too kind to fight Russia for the USA/West.
USA don't want Nord stream 1 or 2 to exist! And voile it's happening now!

anyone ever played fallout new vegas? hes reminding me alot of caeser of caesers legion
they were easy to kill with bullets
they were easy to kill with bullets

this guy will pay a million for the effort

he needs to show his comrades that he isn't bunkered this means he is looking at regular strategy meetings in person with people easier to follow. his makeup and camera crew are all regulars and dont have a lot of security around them normally.

he just needs to smoke some pot and chill the fuck out, and suck some dick, poor guy has a lot of tension.

2 posts
+14 votes

by
Tenpester
The Weakness of the Despot

I love the way Wesley thinks:
"DECENTRALIZING THE WORLD 2.0 --
After decentralizing money, we will no decentralize the Law.
You probably heard of Bitcoin. Last year's hype has gotten a lot of people very excited. Why is this?
Well, Bitcoin is a new kind of money. It gives people the freedom to transact with one-another -- without the need for a third party (bank, paypal, atm's, currency exchanges) or central authority (government, central banks).
It allows you to send payments all over the world: instantly, with very low fees and without needing anyone's permission. The amount of freedom, and efficiency- and cost-savings this will provide in the near future is going to be huge!
HOWEVER, that's not all...
People have been looking at how these technologies can be used to improve other areas of society. This resulted in a lot of new ideas about LAW and GOVERNANCE; from self-enforcing online contracts, the way companies are incorporated, to the way court hearings are done (and enforced), and even to the creation of online countries (?!).
I was enthusiastic about these developments. But the better I studied them, the more whitepapers I read, the more I realized that something is missing. Basically, all these projects act like they are in a vacuum. As if all we need is a few superiors lines of code, and all current laws and legal systems will be replaced. But laws matter. They did not fall from the sky, and they are not going away.
Frankly, what is missing, is a "Legal Framework" -- a way to merge these technologies with the real world. A framework for decentralized law making, arbitration and enforcement. And as I found out, our existing legal systems allows a lot of room for that!
And thus I introduce:
The DECENTRALIZED LEGAL SYSTEM -- The first enforceable framework for Decentralized Law.
To create this system, I studied different decentralized legal projects and existing relevant laws -- all the way back to the ancient Greeks, to figure out what law actually is. In the end, I tied this all together in a straightforward peer-to-peer system that can govern (and enforce) future decentralized systems.
I made this simple website, where you can see the executive summary and download the whitepaper:
https://decentralizedlegalsystem.com/
Let me know what you think, and feel free to share with people you think might find this interesting.
Cheers!
Wesley"
"DECENTRALIZING THE WORLD 2.0 --
After decentralizing money, we will no decentralize the Law.
You probably heard of Bitcoin. Last year's hype has gotten a lot of people very excited. Why is this?
Well, Bitcoin is a new kind of money. It gives people the freedom to transact with one-another -- without the need for a third party (bank, paypal, atm's, currency exchanges) or central authority (government, central banks).
It allows you to send payments all over the world: instantly, with very low fees and without needing anyone's permission. The amount of freedom, and efficiency- and cost-savings this will provide in the near future is going to be huge!
HOWEVER, that's not all...
People have been looking at how these technologies can be used to improve other areas of society. This resulted in a lot of new ideas about LAW and GOVERNANCE; from self-enforcing online contracts, the way companies are incorporated, to the way court hearings are done (and enforced), and even to the creation of online countries (?!).
I was enthusiastic about these developments. But the better I studied them, the more whitepapers I read, the more I realized that something is missing. Basically, all these projects act like they are in a vacuum. As if all we need is a few superiors lines of code, and all current laws and legal systems will be replaced. But laws matter. They did not fall from the sky, and they are not going away.
Frankly, what is missing, is a "Legal Framework" -- a way to merge these technologies with the real world. A framework for decentralized law making, arbitration and enforcement. And as I found out, our existing legal systems allows a lot of room for that!
And thus I introduce:
The DECENTRALIZED LEGAL SYSTEM -- The first enforceable framework for Decentralized Law.
To create this system, I studied different decentralized legal projects and existing relevant laws -- all the way back to the ancient Greeks, to figure out what law actually is. In the end, I tied this all together in a straightforward peer-to-peer system that can govern (and enforce) future decentralized systems.
I made this simple website, where you can see the executive summary and download the whitepaper:
https://decentralizedlegalsystem.com/
Let me know what you think, and feel free to share with people you think might find this interesting.
Cheers!
Wesley"

Smart contracts are a great improvement over the legal system, no arguing, no check is in the mail, just events and payments.

Makes sense as we have to do something brfore the system crashes down...but in the UK the entire legal profession just exists to keep the people from what is lawful, which is quite different.
we still have common law. in it there is no place for corporations, fines or lawyers...we just need to get rid of the crooks and use it again. All written down in magna carta. No legal 'acts' are lawful nor are acts of parliament...we have the shape of a system in place but we forgot it due to poor education and brainwashing by the media.
Maybe we should return to that.
we still have common law. in it there is no place for corporations, fines or lawyers...we just need to get rid of the crooks and use it again. All written down in magna carta. No legal 'acts' are lawful nor are acts of parliament...we have the shape of a system in place but we forgot it due to poor education and brainwashing by the media.
Maybe we should return to that.

Thank you for your question.
I think that by creating state machinery that allows coordination of social, military, political action on large scale over a big territory (including multiple cities), people unwittingly forged chains that could be broken only by the progress of modern times. Which made possible the education, instruction, information and coordination of the struggle of the working classes on an equally large scale.
History (theory), being unable to explain "failures" of many revolutions, has just chosen to ignore them by refusing to take into account all the authentic "unsuccessful" revolutions in history.
Revolutions happen more often than we think and are not always covered in blood and change of regimes.
That said, yes, believe it has to be a revolution, not necessarily ones whose images we have imprinted in our consciousness by history/media/etc.
Pretty much same as invention of bitcoin. Revolution that happened in front of our eyes and is still going on.
I think that by creating state machinery that allows coordination of social, military, political action on large scale over a big territory (including multiple cities), people unwittingly forged chains that could be broken only by the progress of modern times. Which made possible the education, instruction, information and coordination of the struggle of the working classes on an equally large scale.
History (theory), being unable to explain "failures" of many revolutions, has just chosen to ignore them by refusing to take into account all the authentic "unsuccessful" revolutions in history.
Revolutions happen more often than we think and are not always covered in blood and change of regimes.
That said, yes, believe it has to be a revolution, not necessarily ones whose images we have imprinted in our consciousness by history/media/etc.
Pretty much same as invention of bitcoin. Revolution that happened in front of our eyes and is still going on.

5 posts
+29 votes

by
bit poppa
Taiwan is leading networked democracy

by
bit poppa
Taiwan is leading networked democracy
A web platform for creating initiatives actually works.

Democracy is like a lot of shit, it's really exciting and motivating until you get used to it. Places like Taiwan are still smitten with democracy and are likely to become the leaders.

3 posts
+8 votes

by
Tenpester
A list of alternatives to nations

by
Tenpester
A list of alternatives to nations
Rule by consensus of machines
Rule by machine
Rule by consensus of humans
Rule by consensus of machine representatives
After that comes rule by human representatives.
Rule by machine
Rule by consensus of humans
Rule by consensus of machine representatives
After that comes rule by human representatives.

nations are defined by physical security. protection racket or risk of theft, that's the choice they have always offered.
decentralize this game and nations are deprecated.
decentralize this game and nations are deprecated.

26 posts
+95.5 votes

by
doc holiday
where is the most optimistic place on earth right now?

by
doc holiday
where is the most optimistic place on earth right now?
I probably can't go but just knowing it exists would give me hope

How does Tashkent Uzbekistan grab ya?

Colonial? Your shit's just parochial.
Just keep it in the parish bigga, maybe tell it to your vicar
You know he's always up to hear from his favorite dick licker.
Just keep it in the parish bigga, maybe tell it to your vicar
You know he's always up to hear from his favorite dick licker.

When it comes to playing favourites
your Mum always comes to mind
In fact her favouritism for this man's gizzum
is what first inspired this rhyme.
your Mum always comes to mind
In fact her favouritism for this man's gizzum
is what first inspired this rhyme.

My friend you need not go anywhere to feel more optimistic. As a wise old goat I would suggest that you will feel more optimistic about the world if you stop watching the news. The news media has one main objective. To put the fear of God/Mohammed/Haile Selassie (delete as necessary) into ALL of us. That way they hope that we will keep on watching in fear of our lives whilst at the same time putting their chosen political spin on the news to suit their agenda and worry the shit out of us.
My friends please give it a chance and you will see that the world isn’t speeding at 1,000mph towards hell.
The news just wants you to think that. And keep you watching in fear.
Happy smokes.
My friends please give it a chance and you will see that the world isn’t speeding at 1,000mph towards hell.
The news just wants you to think that. And keep you watching in fear.
Happy smokes.

Czech Republic, China, Taiwan;)
Buy a fake degree online and use it to get a working visa for teaching English in China. Unless you already have a degree, then it’s easy and they look after you;)
Buy a fake degree online and use it to get a working visa for teaching English in China. Unless you already have a degree, then it’s easy and they look after you;)



Most Optimistic place ? the Jungle where them Jaguars be teleporting on a regular. Ayahuasca enthusiastic Jaguars know whats up.

The youtube channels of QAnon followers who think Trump is the saviour, warriors of light are leaving flaming bags of turd on the doorstep of the Illuminati and we're not just all trying to create in a landscape of true chaos...

Yeah, I'm desperate to head back to Amsterdam/Utrecht, and then on to Berlin again :) Where do you want to go?

4 posts
+13 votes

by
ike
List of countries by income equality
4 posts
+34 votes

by
Tenpester
it didn't have to be this way

by
Tenpester
it didn't have to be this way
since the beginning people have self organised into cities without states, kings or aristocracy. a brilliant historian's new narrative.

I knew this guy on Twitter! Mate of a couple mutuals, before he passed. Ruthlessly intelligent, a complete gentleman, proud to call him part of the movement. Can't recommend his books enough. I'll definitely be buying this one. Just sad that it's his last. Rest in power, David

28 posts
+132.2 votes

by
foster
The Rise of Nazism Looks a Lot Like Now

by
foster
The Rise of Nazism Looks a Lot Like Now
The author looks at ordinary people's lives as Hitler shocked the country into submission as he fought the "lügenpresse" - lying media.

Yes this is an important thing to understand. People are interested in their own lives and a crazy ruler is just a form of entertainment in most people's lives. If they are effective with delivering quick economic results then they are good entertainers and are delivering some positives then fine - so why think more about this? It's demeaning to even take a fascist seriously so why bother doing so? In Germany we know why.


It is worrying that the far right parties are gaining to much support in Europe, and we should never take our eye off the ball and learn from history what can happen when you do...

Sadly we going to be finding out very soon that the majority of Americans want a semi-Fascist state the same with the uk population too


ring really reminds me of the gestapo, they rolled almost exclusively through ordinary informants. people with fucked up biases are having their day.


why do they keep designing things to look like hal? doesnt anyone remember how the movie ends?

Germany became increasingly polarized with people espousing Marxism on one side and Law and Order on the other. This is exactly how it feels in America now.

Why the dystopian views are always referred to Nazism and not to Communism? They are basically the same shit, and Communism looks much more dangerous to me, because it "succeeded" for many more years, in many more countries, and for some reason has that glamorous look to so many idiots...

AND JUST LIKE IN NAZI GERMANY YOU HAVE PEOPLE BEING APOLOGISTS BECAUSE OF "COMMUNISM". AT LEAST IT WAS ACTUALLY FUCKING COMMUNISM BACK THEN AND NOT JUST WHATEVER IS NOT ON THE RIGHT

Watching the Plot Against America on Sky and it’s easy to see how Facism takes hold. Not dissimilar to Trump’s America.

In times of economic and political strife extremists always rise, whether left or right wing...it doesn't matter, they are reactionary's. For example the liberal left intend destruction of things about history that upset them much in the same way Nazi's in Germany burned books. People need to learn from History and rarely do, the same mistakes are repeated and things somehow trundle on. 'Good times bring weak people', 'Weak people bring bad times', 'Bad times bring strong people' & 'Strong people bring good times'. The great circle of human history.

I thought it was the republicans (ie the right) in America banning certain aspects of history they don’t like.
Who are the liberal left?
Edit
I’m not trying to start an argument I’m trying to understand
Who are the liberal left?
Edit
I’m not trying to start an argument I’m trying to understand

lol it's different in different countries. A conservative in the US is different from a conservative in the UK.
As an example the BLM movement (btw I support equal rights for all races, genders etc.) have tried to expunge slavery and that part of history. Taking down statues of former slaveholders and so on won't change anything, we must remember these things happened so that they don't happen again.
Because of slow or no change for certain groups there is an attempt to accelerate that change from an evolution to a revolution. People will only be backed into a corner for so long whatever their political inclinations. Some people think they're pushing for positive change but real change is when we've learned the lesson.
As an example the BLM movement (btw I support equal rights for all races, genders etc.) have tried to expunge slavery and that part of history. Taking down statues of former slaveholders and so on won't change anything, we must remember these things happened so that they don't happen again.
Because of slow or no change for certain groups there is an attempt to accelerate that change from an evolution to a revolution. People will only be backed into a corner for so long whatever their political inclinations. Some people think they're pushing for positive change but real change is when we've learned the lesson.

Thanks for the response mate.
I still don’t get the tearing down statues of slave owners equates to trying to erase the history. Statues aren’t history they glorify the subjects for posterity.
Is it still a massive issue over there around the teaching of CRT?
I still don’t get the tearing down statues of slave owners equates to trying to erase the history. Statues aren’t history they glorify the subjects for posterity.
Is it still a massive issue over there around the teaching of CRT?

Well the statues are an example. They are subjects for posterity but they also memorialise history and certain points in history. As such they connect themselves to that history.
I basically agree with you though, they aren't the history themselves and so it shouldn't matter. It's what they represent that makes the difference.
I feel that whether right or left wing, people have an agenda and push that. Both different sides of the same coin I'd say.
Also CRT?
I basically agree with you though, they aren't the history themselves and so it shouldn't matter. It's what they represent that makes the difference.
I feel that whether right or left wing, people have an agenda and push that. Both different sides of the same coin I'd say.
Also CRT?

Thanks for the response mate.
I see statues as a way to venerate the individual and what they stand for. Cultures generally don’t put up statues of twats. So the slavers statues should all come down imo.
CRT
Critical Race Theory
I see statues as a way to venerate the individual and what they stand for. Cultures generally don’t put up statues of twats. So the slavers statues should all come down imo.
CRT
Critical Race Theory

Yeah np, I don't mind a bit of debate.
Again I do agree with the first part of what you said. Statues certainly venerate people, but also events. However cultures not putting up statues of 'twats'...well...that's a matter of perspective.
There are many examples of people that put up statues of people who are considered great or influential in their time and place. Those same people and statues are considered later, or by another group to be somehow offensive or detestable.
I'm not gona say that something like slavery in the U.S. wasn't a terrible thing, it defo was. I do think that removing something that is generally offensive to the majority should be considered. It's just that we also need to learn from these things and replace them with something that educates people about the history surrounding them so as to understand the bigger picture.
But yeah CRT, I am familiar with it...bit of a deep and complicated topic. But to answer your original question about that, yes I believe it is still something of a hot topic within education in the UK. I believe the Tories here (conservatives) said they felt CRT was biased, in other words trying to ram anti-racism down kids throats without opposing viewpoints.
This is a quote from the Equalities Minister, "Any school which teaches these elements of critical race theory, or which promotes partisan political views such as defunding the police without offering a balanced treatment of opposing views, is breaking the law".
So yeah interesting, jeez this turned into an essay XD
Again I do agree with the first part of what you said. Statues certainly venerate people, but also events. However cultures not putting up statues of 'twats'...well...that's a matter of perspective.
There are many examples of people that put up statues of people who are considered great or influential in their time and place. Those same people and statues are considered later, or by another group to be somehow offensive or detestable.
I'm not gona say that something like slavery in the U.S. wasn't a terrible thing, it defo was. I do think that removing something that is generally offensive to the majority should be considered. It's just that we also need to learn from these things and replace them with something that educates people about the history surrounding them so as to understand the bigger picture.
But yeah CRT, I am familiar with it...bit of a deep and complicated topic. But to answer your original question about that, yes I believe it is still something of a hot topic within education in the UK. I believe the Tories here (conservatives) said they felt CRT was biased, in other words trying to ram anti-racism down kids throats without opposing viewpoints.
This is a quote from the Equalities Minister, "Any school which teaches these elements of critical race theory, or which promotes partisan political views such as defunding the police without offering a balanced treatment of opposing views, is breaking the law".
So yeah interesting, jeez this turned into an essay XD

Thanks man I do appreciate your time and input.
It’s good to hear it from someone on the ground so to speak we just get fed what the media want us to hear
I do find CRT and the defund the police movements different. One is a collection of scholars etc critically evaluating how society has impacted people of all races and the defund the police is a social movement in response to innocent black people getting killed by police
Have I got that right?
It’s good to hear it from someone on the ground so to speak we just get fed what the media want us to hear
I do find CRT and the defund the police movements different. One is a collection of scholars etc critically evaluating how society has impacted people of all races and the defund the police is a social movement in response to innocent black people getting killed by police
Have I got that right?

7 posts
+34 votes

by
doc holiday
all murderers are punished unless...

by
doc holiday
all murderers are punished unless...
they kill in large numbers and to the sound of trumpets."
― Voltaire
― Voltaire

How can a society can ever determine what is truly right and wrong when a tyrant can hand out the permission to kill on a whim
the level and scale of cognitive dissonance amongst the self proclaimed "most intelligent species" is so embarrassingly overwhelming, there truly is no hope.
it's reached a point where it's objectively unfair and inaccurate to compare ourselves to animals when all of the most despicable, depraved and disgusting acts are carried out by our own failing species, even with the wealth of our entire history of knowledge right at our fingertips we still haven't learnt a single meaningful thing.
the level and scale of cognitive dissonance amongst the self proclaimed "most intelligent species" is so embarrassingly overwhelming, there truly is no hope.
it's reached a point where it's objectively unfair and inaccurate to compare ourselves to animals when all of the most despicable, depraved and disgusting acts are carried out by our own failing species, even with the wealth of our entire history of knowledge right at our fingertips we still haven't learnt a single meaningful thing.

Our time here is so nearly done. Yet in terms of the cosmos, it was all just the slightest blink of an eye..

Spoken like a true stoner! Joking aside you are of course absolutely correct. Unless you're unfortunate enough to be one of those that believes in the sky wizard creating everything 4,000 years ago!

4 posts
+16 votes

by
defnote
21 Times When Coffee was Illegal

by
defnote
21 Times When Coffee was Illegal
England included, basically rulers were afraid of coffeehouses and the ideas they might spread.

I don’t drink the stuff and find I have far more energy than my friends and colleagues that consume it constantly.

Coffee works well in those that don't drink it often. Those that drink it FOR the effects will eventually not feel them and there's generally another reason for the lack of energy and wanting it from caffeine.

8 posts
+52 votes
Networks Not Nations

Networks Not Nations

Now the American Cat is busy licking itself the mice can play again. Ancient ethnic feuds, dictators jerking off with their strategy games, we've seen it all before; new order meet the old order.
It's got to make you wonder why we are still organised into these units called countries. What are they so uniquely good for besides war?
It's got to make you wonder why we are still organised into these units called countries. What are they so uniquely good for besides war?

11 posts
+25.8 votes

by
at tes
If we don't need authority for trust what do we need it for?
I think there's a problem with the word authority. Some authorities are voluntarily recognised by people as experts so their opinions are amplified. Seems like a really good thing.
The other kind is an authority imposing power upon you through a monopoly, usually a monopoly on violence.
The other kind is an authority imposing power upon you through a monopoly, usually a monopoly on violence.

Humans should trust humans.
If we don't trust human beings who are we going to trust?
If we don't trust human beings who are we going to trust?

I am
Sure the Incas took that view until the conquistadors arrived. Humans screw humans more now than any time in history
Sure the Incas took that view until the conquistadors arrived. Humans screw humans more now than any time in history

You assume authority is not required but let me give you an example...if your next order goes wrong, what authority are you going to complain to about it. If there's no authority, who's to stop thrives and whoever just walking all over us? Your question is loaded.

…
So the authority is an algorithm. Shows how dumb we are. We need an authority right now to tell RealD to stop ripping us all off.

7 posts
+38.2 votes

by
Tenpester
want to end war? hold the weapons makers liable.

by
Tenpester
want to end war? hold the weapons makers liable.

there are at least 2 guaranteed winners in every war, the weapons suppliers on each side. doesn't matter who wins or loses the corporations still profit, just ask the many nazi suppliers still around today.
considering their enormous influence over miltaries and governments it's not surprising we still haven't got rid of war.
considering their enormous influence over miltaries and governments it's not surprising we still haven't got rid of war.

Would work perfectly if they didn't control nearly every legislature, dictator or other potential enforcer of this liability.

Don't forget the banks that finance the wars there winning big!
Its people like Phillip may(teresa mays husband) and Paul kenward (Victoria atkins husband uks old drugs minister responsible for uks drugs policy) who are at the head of this.
They both own alot of UK sugar and BAE.
Not only controlling alot of the world's arms but also their medicinal mj supply with Sativex and 50% of the uks sugar supply.
Its people like Phillip may(teresa mays husband) and Paul kenward (Victoria atkins husband uks old drugs minister responsible for uks drugs policy) who are at the head of this.
They both own alot of UK sugar and BAE.
Not only controlling alot of the world's arms but also their medicinal mj supply with Sativex and 50% of the uks sugar supply.

…
Before solving the world’s problems, focus on improving your writing skills.
Use correct punctuation, grammar, and spelling to make your message clear and credible.
Corporations are businesses, just like people who sell stuff on this website.
If you don’t like to exchange money for products and services, then you shouldn’t be commenting on this website at all. Or even have the internet. Or even have a computer.
I’m not worried about Nazis. Your ignorance and idiocy is the real problem.
Use correct punctuation, grammar, and spelling to make your message clear and credible.
Corporations are businesses, just like people who sell stuff on this website.
If you don’t like to exchange money for products and services, then you shouldn’t be commenting on this website at all. Or even have the internet. Or even have a computer.
I’m not worried about Nazis. Your ignorance and idiocy is the real problem.

In your frankly disgusting attempt at gaslighting this guy, not only have you failed in every possible way and clearly missed the actual point due to your own ignorance, but you've also exposed yourself as the ignorant idiotic one!
not only are his writing skills PERFECTLY fine, but it's completely irrelevant, his point was perfectly clear and understandable and calls for no spell checks or extra grammar, you are THE typical reddit grammar nazi, ignoring the immensely important and perfectly understandable point the topic was about and getting hung up over the placement of a full stop or a capital letter, YOU are the one being ignorant here!
and to top it all off, your laughable attempt at gaslighting him again with the "corporations are businesses" bullshit, i'm embarrassed for you exposing such flawed logic... so if i own a corporation thats deals in child sex trafficking, that's ok is it? because "i'm exchanging money for products and services" that makes it fine? jesus christ did you even think before you wrote this utter nonsense? or were you just too caught up in trying to give yourself a big pat on the back over your good but essentially pointless writing skills?
why do so many people like you exist and what makes you think the way you do? it's so fucking unfortunate and you are a HUGE part of the problem of why the world is as fucked and irreparable as it is.
not only are his writing skills PERFECTLY fine, but it's completely irrelevant, his point was perfectly clear and understandable and calls for no spell checks or extra grammar, you are THE typical reddit grammar nazi, ignoring the immensely important and perfectly understandable point the topic was about and getting hung up over the placement of a full stop or a capital letter, YOU are the one being ignorant here!
and to top it all off, your laughable attempt at gaslighting him again with the "corporations are businesses" bullshit, i'm embarrassed for you exposing such flawed logic... so if i own a corporation thats deals in child sex trafficking, that's ok is it? because "i'm exchanging money for products and services" that makes it fine? jesus christ did you even think before you wrote this utter nonsense? or were you just too caught up in trying to give yourself a big pat on the back over your good but essentially pointless writing skills?
why do so many people like you exist and what makes you think the way you do? it's so fucking unfortunate and you are a HUGE part of the problem of why the world is as fucked and irreparable as it is.

3 posts
+13 votes

by
Han duo
China kills AI chatbots that learn to praise US
39 posts
+112.2 votes

by
bBoi
How is Nationalism Any Different from Racism?

by
bBoi
How is Nationalism Any Different from Racism?
I don't want to give preference to someone the same color as me so why should I prefer someone for being born in the same country as me (or worse they are ordained a citizen by some twat)?

Well i'm of dual heritage (my dad was from the West Indies and my mum is English) so my 'British Bulldog' avatar and profile might upset some in this thread, but yeah, i'm proud of all of my heritage.
Racism is very ugly, and you know it when you experience it.
Pride in one's heritage is completely different.
Cheers. BB
Racism is very ugly, and you know it when you experience it.
Pride in one's heritage is completely different.
Cheers. BB

Basically it derives from the same origins. There are certain laws of ethnic relations in history of humankind, such as:
1. law of percentage: lets say a black person somewhere in gothenburg or copenhagen would trigger an amused curiosity and the outpouring of sincere sympathy, however, if you "inject" immigrant workers up to the fateful threshold of 4-8 percent and you will already have a racial situation - the nature of social relationships changes, engendering ethnic tensions, global reflexes painful to describe. The more the percentage increases, the more class struggle transforms itself into racial confrontation. Basically, this percentage is sufficient to make racial discrimination appear spontaneously in people who previously believed itself wholesome and devoid of any racist sentiment.
2. The law of assimilability: If majority and the minority belong to the same large ethnic group (all are white, or all a asian), then assimilation occurs progressively. For example, Spanish or Portuguese workers despised in France not so long ago, integrated themselves into population within the space of one generation; same for descendants of corsicans and the poles during napoleonic era, same for bambara minority living in senegal. But if the ethnic and cultural gap is too big, tensions are exacerbated with time. Like African Blacks and Arabs find themselves in this situation in Europe. Coexistance basically becomes possible only in a truly Socialist state or a state that has adopted a high morality philosophy.
3. the law of distance: like two ethnic groups that are not fighting over the same living space or same market and occupy different territories separated by space can enter into normal relationships. Like that an alliance can be explained during world war 2 between hitlers germany and japan. or relationship of pretoria with israel state.
4. the law of phenotype: basically physical appearance. It would matter little tgat botha and zulu in africa have the same genotype (same genes in the chromosomes) and it would have no influence on their daily lives because their external features are so different.
Laws of class struggle according to history applies only to societies previously made homogeneous by violence. Funny, that the most modern nations actually went through this bestial struggles before (Americas, australia, new zealand, good part of asia, greenland, huge part of pacific, scandinavia, etc, etc).For example Blacks of Americas were brough over to work the land, while the indigenous races were being destroyed. So, the "more advanced" barbarious conquerors exterminated/drove out whole populations, devastated or abandoned productive forces they they simply did not know how to use. This specific law is one of my favourite... how spartan domination ended by crumbling particularly because of the great numeric weakness of their REAL citizens. Because their society consisting of spartan conquerors and lowly helots both belonged to the same large white-skinned 'race', ethnic differences became blurred and it allowed class differences appeared only in an economic sense.
Same goes for Rome and Carthage, Rwanda-Burundi, Francs and Gallo-Romans.
Have a look at the american immigration laws and how it progressed throghout 19-20 centuries. This law also gave birth to so called intra-european racism, etc.
We forget that the passage from a clan to a monolingual tribe and to ethnic group and to nationality historically was a result, a consequences of clans exogamy. It is still widely discussed by specialists. But it marked starting point of the current civilization.
Endogamy was prohibited and we, humans, just started fucking people from the outside kkk several neibourhing clans contracted marriage ties that led them eventually to speak same languages despite that their original idioms were different.
The number of clans to gather together to work a more or less powerful tribe didnt follow any rules and depended mostly on the fertility and extent of the lands occupied by the group. Thus was born nationality.
In the course of history, when two groups of people argued over a vital economic space, the slightest ethnic difference can be magnified, temporarily serving as a pretext for social and political cleavage: differences in physical appearances, colour of your passport, language, religions, morals and customs.
We forget that basically future generations must forget about the dead so that the conquering people can undergo a rebirth with an angelic consience.
Why do we almost idolise, for example, conquistadors, holy crusaders and vikings? Pillagers, rapists, murderers and worse.
Most of the things we learn and follow, most of the times, blindly, things we consider as truths and solid facts, the very foundation of our personal universes - it was predominantly build based on someones ideologies.
Books, that our kids and us read, are also written under certain circumstances, conditions, requirements, with certain motivations. Dictated by an ideology.
Sooo.... sorry for the massive message. It just questions like this trigger something inside me, something that i consciously try to understand and overcome. For before we are races or nationalities, boys or girls, gays or straight, we are humans.
Peace yo.
1. law of percentage: lets say a black person somewhere in gothenburg or copenhagen would trigger an amused curiosity and the outpouring of sincere sympathy, however, if you "inject" immigrant workers up to the fateful threshold of 4-8 percent and you will already have a racial situation - the nature of social relationships changes, engendering ethnic tensions, global reflexes painful to describe. The more the percentage increases, the more class struggle transforms itself into racial confrontation. Basically, this percentage is sufficient to make racial discrimination appear spontaneously in people who previously believed itself wholesome and devoid of any racist sentiment.
2. The law of assimilability: If majority and the minority belong to the same large ethnic group (all are white, or all a asian), then assimilation occurs progressively. For example, Spanish or Portuguese workers despised in France not so long ago, integrated themselves into population within the space of one generation; same for descendants of corsicans and the poles during napoleonic era, same for bambara minority living in senegal. But if the ethnic and cultural gap is too big, tensions are exacerbated with time. Like African Blacks and Arabs find themselves in this situation in Europe. Coexistance basically becomes possible only in a truly Socialist state or a state that has adopted a high morality philosophy.
3. the law of distance: like two ethnic groups that are not fighting over the same living space or same market and occupy different territories separated by space can enter into normal relationships. Like that an alliance can be explained during world war 2 between hitlers germany and japan. or relationship of pretoria with israel state.
4. the law of phenotype: basically physical appearance. It would matter little tgat botha and zulu in africa have the same genotype (same genes in the chromosomes) and it would have no influence on their daily lives because their external features are so different.
Laws of class struggle according to history applies only to societies previously made homogeneous by violence. Funny, that the most modern nations actually went through this bestial struggles before (Americas, australia, new zealand, good part of asia, greenland, huge part of pacific, scandinavia, etc, etc).For example Blacks of Americas were brough over to work the land, while the indigenous races were being destroyed. So, the "more advanced" barbarious conquerors exterminated/drove out whole populations, devastated or abandoned productive forces they they simply did not know how to use. This specific law is one of my favourite... how spartan domination ended by crumbling particularly because of the great numeric weakness of their REAL citizens. Because their society consisting of spartan conquerors and lowly helots both belonged to the same large white-skinned 'race', ethnic differences became blurred and it allowed class differences appeared only in an economic sense.
Same goes for Rome and Carthage, Rwanda-Burundi, Francs and Gallo-Romans.
Have a look at the american immigration laws and how it progressed throghout 19-20 centuries. This law also gave birth to so called intra-european racism, etc.
We forget that the passage from a clan to a monolingual tribe and to ethnic group and to nationality historically was a result, a consequences of clans exogamy. It is still widely discussed by specialists. But it marked starting point of the current civilization.
Endogamy was prohibited and we, humans, just started fucking people from the outside kkk several neibourhing clans contracted marriage ties that led them eventually to speak same languages despite that their original idioms were different.
The number of clans to gather together to work a more or less powerful tribe didnt follow any rules and depended mostly on the fertility and extent of the lands occupied by the group. Thus was born nationality.
In the course of history, when two groups of people argued over a vital economic space, the slightest ethnic difference can be magnified, temporarily serving as a pretext for social and political cleavage: differences in physical appearances, colour of your passport, language, religions, morals and customs.
We forget that basically future generations must forget about the dead so that the conquering people can undergo a rebirth with an angelic consience.
Why do we almost idolise, for example, conquistadors, holy crusaders and vikings? Pillagers, rapists, murderers and worse.
Most of the things we learn and follow, most of the times, blindly, things we consider as truths and solid facts, the very foundation of our personal universes - it was predominantly build based on someones ideologies.
Books, that our kids and us read, are also written under certain circumstances, conditions, requirements, with certain motivations. Dictated by an ideology.
Sooo.... sorry for the massive message. It just questions like this trigger something inside me, something that i consciously try to understand and overcome. For before we are races or nationalities, boys or girls, gays or straight, we are humans.
Peace yo.

Interesting points. I just came across this forum and will make a contribution. Meanwhile, on the topic of Scottish Nationalism, I have myself proposed Independence For England! We English (whatever that means through consensus) vote in a referendum to dissolve the union of England and Scotland. Never mind what they want, how about what we want, which may be to separate from them, along with the subject nation of Wales. We'll have our own oven ready breakfast and our own national covid death toll, while we surrender the last shreds of our integrity to the fucking Yanks and the fucking Chinese whose government leaders wouldn't make the groove as a couple of Pox Doctor's clerks.

Please dont have the idea that all Scots want independence
. Plenty are and always will be happy to be part of the union. There is more at play than just Scottish Independence, certain elements see Scottish independence as a means to help another cause. Understand that Independence of Scotland is not the endgame for a lot of SNP supporters.
. Plenty are and always will be happy to be part of the union. There is more at play than just Scottish Independence, certain elements see Scottish independence as a means to help another cause. Understand that Independence of Scotland is not the endgame for a lot of SNP supporters.

High Raskolnikov. Your post showed as a comment on mine so You're addressing me, then. I have no intention of stating anything about what Scots want. My point is that I consider an English Independence Referendum is incumbent on ourselves to determine our Englishness without the input of the other three nations. Devolution, revolution, phooey! We want ablution. Wash our hands of the lot of you. Do we? Who does? Has anyone got this underway? Sturgeon and Salmond? Something fishy about those two!

I am British not Scottish or Welsh or Irish or English but British.
So the idea of England going on its own is kind of laughable.
I prefer this great country as one nation,I have lived all over UK so I class myself as British. Ever since devolved countries we had loads of petty arguments enough of the arguments and do there jobs.
The Scottish independence route will end up like n ireland scottish people are divided straight down the middle so can see issues battle grounds comes to mind bombings etc etc just like n ireland AND its not going to happen anyway thank god.:D
Or you english going be invaded of all the people that do not want there countries independent lol.
Plus the Queen will never allow it to happen she is still the most powerful lady in this country and can override any laws in the UK set by government it is in the small print when she signed it over to the government. She has her palaces all over the UK.
She wants to send to her son to America to answer for the crimes he is guilty as fk otherwise he would have gone over and answered there questions on very serious sex crimes.
Guilty as fk he is by dodging the request of the FBI and CIA law to himself hiding behind mummy he is.
I am British loud and proud !!!
So the idea of England going on its own is kind of laughable.
I prefer this great country as one nation,I have lived all over UK so I class myself as British. Ever since devolved countries we had loads of petty arguments enough of the arguments and do there jobs.
The Scottish independence route will end up like n ireland scottish people are divided straight down the middle so can see issues battle grounds comes to mind bombings etc etc just like n ireland AND its not going to happen anyway thank god.:D
Or you english going be invaded of all the people that do not want there countries independent lol.
Plus the Queen will never allow it to happen she is still the most powerful lady in this country and can override any laws in the UK set by government it is in the small print when she signed it over to the government. She has her palaces all over the UK.
She wants to send to her son to America to answer for the crimes he is guilty as fk otherwise he would have gone over and answered there questions on very serious sex crimes.
Guilty as fk he is by dodging the request of the FBI and CIA law to himself hiding behind mummy he is.
I am British loud and proud !!!

I’m British and Scottish mate. Think it is possible to be both. I’m not interested in Independence and believe it will not happen and will be a disaster if it does. In Scotland Salmond courted a certain block vote and got it. That is what has got the snp to where they are. That and shortbread tin thinking. They will soon want to let over 14 s vote. As I said in another post, Scottish Independence is not the endgame for a lot of snp.

I wouldn’t blame the English people if they started to see things this way but we are still all better as a union and I think you know this. Sturgeon and Salmond are just typical politicians mate who lying is a big part of the job description. There has been a huge change in Scotland in my lifetime where the working class vote has moved away from labour to the snp. Labour has shot themselves in the foot so many times but also the snp politics has changed. I have been on this earth a long time and the snp have changed so much. Sturgeon is still using her bloody daily briefing up here to try to indoctrinate the nation. I’m going to stop here as I am ranting.

Not English, then. To be born an Englishman is to win first prize in the lottery of life. That life being the infliction of Imperialism on 25% of the world's population. Nothing wrong with that, was there?

Sturgeon's manifesto was just a wish list, impossible to accomplish. I don't want Scotland to leave. We may rib each other on things but I'd like to think we have each others back when things get tough. We live on the same island. Crazy to break up.

It was a joke mate but fuck, Vietnam. Is that what you are comparing Scottish Independence to?

Scotland's nationalist party don't want to exclude races, they want independence from another countries rule. It's not about racism.

lol. ok, i'll bite...
nationalism is a term for those with common interests as citizens of the same country working together for mutual benefit and/or pride.
racism is a hatred of one or more person/s where skin colour is the basis used for the defining attribute.
neither is mandatory last I heard.
nationalism is a term for those with common interests as citizens of the same country working together for mutual benefit and/or pride.
racism is a hatred of one or more person/s where skin colour is the basis used for the defining attribute.
neither is mandatory last I heard.

Proper kettle of fish this one! but I couldn’t resist throwing my 2 cents in.
Racism is an inherent belief that one group are superior to another based purely on membership to said group; that for example being white would mean that you are superior to non-whites by virtue of your whiteness. Although this is of course the most common example, it’s important to remember that racism has been perpetrated by, and against, a multitude of groups such as the current situation in China with Uighur Muslims and so on.
Nationalism is the identification with ones nation and the desire to see that nation succeed. often, but not exclusively, to the detriment of other nations.
One can be a nationalist but not a racist, but I would argue that it’s quite rare to meet a racist who is not also a nationalist.
I don’t think nationalism is always a bad thing - we saw for example at the onset of COVID-19 in Europe a large degree of nationalism as all of these countries that are part of the Schengen Agreement suddenly conveniently ignored the treaty in order to shut their borders and protect their citizens (uselessly, as it turned out) against the spread of C19.
However, nationalist sentiment needs to be controlled carefully because the downside to it could be seen, you could argue, In the Capitol siege/riots on January 6th as nationalist fervour tends to spread and morph very rapidly and almost always ends in violence and almost always ends in Fascism
Sorry for the wall of text but this is such a fascinating topic!
Racism is an inherent belief that one group are superior to another based purely on membership to said group; that for example being white would mean that you are superior to non-whites by virtue of your whiteness. Although this is of course the most common example, it’s important to remember that racism has been perpetrated by, and against, a multitude of groups such as the current situation in China with Uighur Muslims and so on.
Nationalism is the identification with ones nation and the desire to see that nation succeed. often, but not exclusively, to the detriment of other nations.
One can be a nationalist but not a racist, but I would argue that it’s quite rare to meet a racist who is not also a nationalist.
I don’t think nationalism is always a bad thing - we saw for example at the onset of COVID-19 in Europe a large degree of nationalism as all of these countries that are part of the Schengen Agreement suddenly conveniently ignored the treaty in order to shut their borders and protect their citizens (uselessly, as it turned out) against the spread of C19.
However, nationalist sentiment needs to be controlled carefully because the downside to it could be seen, you could argue, In the Capitol siege/riots on January 6th as nationalist fervour tends to spread and morph very rapidly and almost always ends in violence and almost always ends in Fascism
Sorry for the wall of text but this is such a fascinating topic!

a lot of nationalists aren't so much racists as exclusionary. they believe in a social contact that only exists amongst members. outsiders are not part of the deal.

Just like you would naturally have a preference for feeding your own family in your own home, before you concerned yourself with feeding anyone else.
This would not mean you hated other people, or didn't wish the best for them.
I think Nationalism is often confused with extreme Right wing ideologies, when it could be Left or Right really.
This would not mean you hated other people, or didn't wish the best for them.
I think Nationalism is often confused with extreme Right wing ideologies, when it could be Left or Right really.

Yes you could look into the SNPs distant past or alternatively you could look at what the Tories are doing right now as we speak under your very nose.
It is funny how a conversation about nationalism is related to the SNP when anyone with eyes can see that British nationalism is the one being pushed everywhere in Britain.
The SNP didn't spend 2 million quid on a set of blue curtains and two Union Jacks and it is not the SNP who are plastering everything with the Butcher's apron either!
It is funny how a conversation about nationalism is related to the SNP when anyone with eyes can see that British nationalism is the one being pushed everywhere in Britain.
The SNP didn't spend 2 million quid on a set of blue curtains and two Union Jacks and it is not the SNP who are plastering everything with the Butcher's apron either!

Because we can change our nationality as it’s make believe. You cannot change your DNA which is real

Racism is necessarily exclusionary. But Nationalism isn't.
In general I am wary of nationalism, but there are times when it has achieved positives.
In general I am wary of nationalism, but there are times when it has achieved positives.

There seem to be a prevailing perspective of an individualistic view on what racism is, i.e. the hatred or superiority of another race, nation, or ethnicity, however this view is overly simplistic as racism is structural and systemic and is only dependent on the individual when their actions are supported by the larger system.
One can be xenophobic, discriminatory and/or prejudiced against others from other places without it being racism if they are not the dominant race/ethnicity/or culture.
Racism = power + prejudice. That is the current understanding and definition of racism in social sciences and some dictionaries (as with Merriam Webster, which was updated two or three years ago). That is not to say that racial prejudice or discrimination is allowable or tolerable. It's not. However to quantify both types of prejudice (the one that is solely individual and the one that is supported by systemic structures) as the same thing or equivalent is false.
One is an individual opinion and has no greater repurcussions than that person's world's or actions, the other however plays into a wider narrative of oppression that reinforces the structural oppression and contributes to and reinforces societal and structural discrimination.
Nationalism is different in several ways.
Firstly, pride in ones nation does not mean an inherent prejudice or discrimination against those that come from other nations (although all too often it does manifest in such a way).
Secondly, if those expressing nationalist sentiment are not the dominant authority over said nation, then it is not racism but discrimination and prejudice as they lack the power to manifest that discrimination through institutions or on a structural scale. This type of nationalism often manifests as a resistance to colonial and imperial forces. In those cases the nationalism is not being the of an ideological superiority or innate belief in the dominance of one nation over another, but rather a resistance to such.
Therefore nationalism and racism only become the same when said nation propogates their dominance and superiority over others while simultaneously systemically oppressing other nations or supporting existing structural oppression and prejudice.
https://www.dismantlingracism.org/racism-defined.html
One can be xenophobic, discriminatory and/or prejudiced against others from other places without it being racism if they are not the dominant race/ethnicity/or culture.
Racism = power + prejudice. That is the current understanding and definition of racism in social sciences and some dictionaries (as with Merriam Webster, which was updated two or three years ago). That is not to say that racial prejudice or discrimination is allowable or tolerable. It's not. However to quantify both types of prejudice (the one that is solely individual and the one that is supported by systemic structures) as the same thing or equivalent is false.
One is an individual opinion and has no greater repurcussions than that person's world's or actions, the other however plays into a wider narrative of oppression that reinforces the structural oppression and contributes to and reinforces societal and structural discrimination.
Nationalism is different in several ways.
Firstly, pride in ones nation does not mean an inherent prejudice or discrimination against those that come from other nations (although all too often it does manifest in such a way).
Secondly, if those expressing nationalist sentiment are not the dominant authority over said nation, then it is not racism but discrimination and prejudice as they lack the power to manifest that discrimination through institutions or on a structural scale. This type of nationalism often manifests as a resistance to colonial and imperial forces. In those cases the nationalism is not being the of an ideological superiority or innate belief in the dominance of one nation over another, but rather a resistance to such.
Therefore nationalism and racism only become the same when said nation propogates their dominance and superiority over others while simultaneously systemically oppressing other nations or supporting existing structural oppression and prejudice.
https://www.dismantlingracism.org/racism-defined.html

5 posts
+26 votes

by
theStrokes
Government works only to the extent people give a shit

by
theStrokes
Government works only to the extent people give a shit
Local govs generally work better because they are limited to in your face realities.
Big govs have to earn our attention with wars or actively get in our business to be relevant.
Big govs have to earn our attention with wars or actively get in our business to be relevant.

local newspapers are dying because they only have realities to deal with, big media can weave grand fictions for years.

local newspapers are invariably run by larger media outfits- certainly in this country you will find them pushing the same pro-business and anti- people agenda, while pushing for harder punishment for poor criminals by hyper vilification, and a justification for the crimes of the rich, and a nice side order of celebrity worship- they imply locality but are run by the same wankers that get their dirty hands onto everything. I think local newspapers are probably reflective of how corporatised and then depleted many local town are in the North of England- since Thatcher a few folk were sble to buy their social housing and the rest of the working class were screwed over- it’s been a downward spiral since then, and the local newspapers have become a casualty along the way.
Both the left and the right have really good independent news outlets that put mainstream news to shame……shame
Both the left and the right have really good independent news outlets that put mainstream news to shame……shame

13 posts
+30 votes

by
iron jizz
will the chinese gov say sorry?

by
iron jizz
will the chinese gov say sorry?
no conspiracy theory here looking at this as an accident what kind of a person wouldn't show some remorse?

World events do not occur by accident. They are made to happen, whether it is to do with national issues or commerce; and most of them are staged and managed by those who hold the purse strings. ~ Denis Healey, United Kingdom Secretary of State for Defence (1964-1970) and Chancellor of the Exchequer (1974-1979).

But, couldn’t the rest of the world have seen this coming from miles and miles away? Why should only the Chinese government be responsible? I feel like we all could learn from other people’s mistakes. Once the Chinese government failed, the rest lacked in response as well.. and now people are so stubborn, wanting to continue normal life when things are still not in control. Which is absolutely understandable. But blame is not going to stop this, especially if we don’t take responsibility ourselves. so why not ask for an apology closer to home?

It quite clearly wasn’t an accident, even if it was how can they admit it? Every government in the world suing for 600 Billion, everyone that lost someone getting multi million dollar payouts… It was a giant scam from start to finish imo.

It’s USA and China.
Thank me later (copy this b4 it’s taken down)
Smoking gun…. 🤷🏻♂️
https://republicans-energycommerce.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/Year-5-EHA.pdf?fbclid=IwAR36wLp-vTrD6I9CS0Fk5aa4EPRhDbHnwHYZbu3M2dnMusk0tcEgXHLGnWQ
Thank me later (copy this b4 it’s taken down)
Smoking gun…. 🤷🏻♂️
https://republicans-energycommerce.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/Year-5-EHA.pdf?fbclid=IwAR36wLp-vTrD6I9CS0Fk5aa4EPRhDbHnwHYZbu3M2dnMusk0tcEgXHLGnWQ

3 posts
+7 votes

by
silk worm
"Civilization" set back human health and happiness for thousands of years.

by
silk worm
"Civilization" set back human health and happiness for thousands of years.
Amazing insights from Yale's James Scott.

He talks about the freedom that nomads had but how do we know those folks weren't oppressed by their pack leaders. When you look at animals you see a pretty nasty pecking order and it's beyond surveillance, you're living in small groups with your alpha boss 24-7.

76 posts
+279.8 votes

by
doctor doc
is the coronavirus bio warfare?

by
doctor doc
is the coronavirus bio warfare?
if there is a simple effective way to win the economy back from china this it. the technology is there, the motive and so is the will in the american government.

You lot having been hitting the ganja too hard! It’s simple biology that caused this outbreak. When living things breed their dna is copied but this isn’t a perfect process and sometimes errors in this process causes mutations. Where viral generations can be a matter of minutes rather than years microbial life is much more susceptible to mutations such as becoming more virulent and resistant to existing medicine. Or as is suspected in this outbreak a type of virus may live happily in a certain species of animal without causing harm but a mutation allows it to cross the species barrier and infect humans, but where humans aren’t it’s usual host it can cause harm. Unfortunately this is more common in areas where bush meat is traded because your going to get a range of different animal diseases that may cross the species barrier and there’s no biohazard control like you would get in an abattoir. Seriously, linking Coronavirus with 5g and the royals!? Why not throw in reptilians for good measure? Posts like this make me weep for humanity.

Is it a coincidence that the only level 4 biological research in China is in Wuhan, was studying Coronaviruses and the Harvard professor paid by the Chinese govt to set the lab up has been arrested by the USA recently?
Just like Jimmy Savile, procurer of children for the elite was best friends with Prince Charles and Jeffery Epstein, procurer of children for the elite was best friends with Prince Andrew. All a coincidence, nothing to see.
No reptiles required.
Just like Jimmy Savile, procurer of children for the elite was best friends with Prince Charles and Jeffery Epstein, procurer of children for the elite was best friends with Prince Andrew. All a coincidence, nothing to see.
No reptiles required.

i checked your lab comment and it is verifiable. way way too strange that the only lab in china is in wuhan.
"The facility, known as the Wuhan National Biosafety Laboratory, is housed within the Chinese Academy of Sciences and was specifically designed to help Chinese scientists "prepare for and respond to future infectious disease outbreaks,"
It was created after SARS, you gotta wonder just how they were "preparing" at this lab. You don't need anything sinister for this theory, you just need incompetence at the lab.
"The facility, known as the Wuhan National Biosafety Laboratory, is housed within the Chinese Academy of Sciences and was specifically designed to help Chinese scientists "prepare for and respond to future infectious disease outbreaks,"
It was created after SARS, you gotta wonder just how they were "preparing" at this lab. You don't need anything sinister for this theory, you just need incompetence at the lab.

The conditions of this lab were investigated a few years ago by the American government, during the time that the lab was advertising jobs for coronavirus researchers. The conditions were extremely poor.

Coronavirus doesn’t have DNA, it’s not even really alive. It’s just a code of RNA
Like a computer virus it can only “live” and replicate inside a host
Like a computer virus it can only “live” and replicate inside a host

this describes everyone here (without regard to planetary origin) the trick dear biggaz is to see all sides and remain open until a conclusion is actually required.

But speaking scientifically, here is an article form TheScientist in 2015 discussing how the sars coronavirus cross, created in a lab, by Ralph Baric, is a bad thing. Ralph argues otherwise.
https://www.the-scientist.com/news-opinion/lab-made-coronavirus-triggers-debate-34502
conspiracy my arse, its a coup. the greatest transfer of wealth in history.
https://www.the-scientist.com/news-opinion/lab-made-coronavirus-triggers-debate-34502
conspiracy my arse, its a coup. the greatest transfer of wealth in history.

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If you actually look at 5g you will see that over 130 thousand 5g towers were put in china in 2019 in the bid to win this stupid 5g race.
November to be exact is when it all started with the mass 5g installations and yet thats also when the first case of coronavirus was confirmed.
With over 10 thousand being installed in wuhan alone.
You look at side effects from emf frequencies and a lot of it could well be linked. It does have the potential to mutate things.
America has approximately 10 thousand 5g antennas throughout the whole country to put it into perspective.
Look at the amount of emf related complaints in america alone.
Recently near me they turned on 5g and 200 birds fell out of the sky. The news tried to say oh must of been a bird of prey ? things arent always black and white. Coronavirus is just another virus they are using to fear monger. Then there will be a vaccine for it.
Every year its the same. Sars. Bird flu. Swine flu. Ebola. The normal flu. Same shit every year . People just got to open their eyes.
November to be exact is when it all started with the mass 5g installations and yet thats also when the first case of coronavirus was confirmed.
With over 10 thousand being installed in wuhan alone.
You look at side effects from emf frequencies and a lot of it could well be linked. It does have the potential to mutate things.
America has approximately 10 thousand 5g antennas throughout the whole country to put it into perspective.
Look at the amount of emf related complaints in america alone.
Recently near me they turned on 5g and 200 birds fell out of the sky. The news tried to say oh must of been a bird of prey ? things arent always black and white. Coronavirus is just another virus they are using to fear monger. Then there will be a vaccine for it.
Every year its the same. Sars. Bird flu. Swine flu. Ebola. The normal flu. Same shit every year . People just got to open their eyes.

I personally feel mass 5g installations are causing a lot of side effects . Pneumonia is even a side effect of emf frequencies so really does make you wonder.

bio warfare/public health research fuck up
or
malicious shit dropped w cover of lab?
when you cant trust government to not kill people anyway does it matter?
or
malicious shit dropped w cover of lab?
when you cant trust government to not kill people anyway does it matter?

Not my opinion but Il play the other card, for the purpose of debate.
China did this to themselves, intentionally. What better way to elevate your economy than to release pathogen which will breeze over the healthy, yet kill sick and old people. Minimising/removing welfare and health costs and leaving behind an entire working populous. What a way to beat the tariffs...wanna bet the cure comes from china too?
FWIW I despise conspiracy theories, they are based in fear and ignorance, all are entitled to their own thoughts though!
As I said this is not my opinion, but we live in a world where all things must be considered, even the things which at times seem impossible are more often than not, just improbable.
Peace x
China did this to themselves, intentionally. What better way to elevate your economy than to release pathogen which will breeze over the healthy, yet kill sick and old people. Minimising/removing welfare and health costs and leaving behind an entire working populous. What a way to beat the tariffs...wanna bet the cure comes from china too?
FWIW I despise conspiracy theories, they are based in fear and ignorance, all are entitled to their own thoughts though!
As I said this is not my opinion, but we live in a world where all things must be considered, even the things which at times seem impossible are more often than not, just improbable.
Peace x