THANKS GONNA TELL MY CUSTIES ABOUT THIS, SOME OF EM HAVING BEEN GETTING NO LUBED BY SOME OF THESE EXCHANGES

More than happy to help the community

Thank you. Looks awesome.

thanks for sharing this mate!!

No problem my guyl

You want to try uphold aswell I've recently discovered them and is a great wallet from what I've found out so far.

Hi, I'd like to invite you to use Uphold. Create your account and try out one of the easiest and most cost-effective trading experiences.
https://uphold.com/signup?referral=d862509f56

I'm definitely going to give it a go, Bittylicious killing me with fees, £55 required and they want £73???? Bloody outrageous ?

Yeah I used bittyliscious for a £200 order charged me £265 almost!!!

DO NOT USE CEX.IO. The fees are 0.0005 BTC, which was ok to begin with but now that's almost £20 to withdraw.
THEY JUST INCREASED THE MINIMUM WITHDRAWAL LIMIT TO 0.002. My order was for 0.0019 & wasn't allowed. I had deposited the exact amount for the order but needed to add more. The minimum deposit is $20, which is more than I have left in my bank account now.
WITHDRAWALS TO MASTERCARD ARE SUSPENDED.
I now have £74 in my account, which I cannot withdraw to my card, I can't pay for my order & I can't deposit more to increase it. If I do add funds there will be over £10 sitting there, which I can;t get back out.
DO NOT USE THESE THIEVING SCAMMERS.

Thanks for sharing looks just the ticket. Which method of buying the btc did you use and was it quick? Cheers

Gonna check this out! Thanks man, Wirex are bumming me hard at the moment with no lube -_-

Edit: The reviews are a bit disconcerting lol

I'm commenting just to tell people to NOT use Wirex. Ridiculous fees, appauling service. I transferred Eth a few weeks back... it took 6 days to transfer and they told me it was network congestion...never again

oh? on the app store the reviews were good, on android anyway. I can't speak for the others but my expierences with it has been positive.

Yeah Apple mate but I'm still going to give it a whirl!

Is there not risk by sending BTC from a non anonymous account? I was considering using samurai wallet. Any experience? Buy the coin from bittylicous or some other exchange first.

Well, with Bittylicious you need to verify your idenity still i'm sure, so if any bad actors needed to trace you, they can always trace back to bittylicious from whatever wallet you're using.

I've never used Samurai Wallet so I can't speak on it really.

when you use any wallet to send to a seller of any kind, legit or non legit they can't see any of your personal details, until you give them your name/address for shipping of course.

I would say there is no real risk when it comes to using non anonymous accounts. the biggest risk we as buyers take is having a (wrongly) illegal substance come to our house. Which, lets be honest here, the police don't really give a shit about weed.

Thanks! I was thinking that using samurai (anonymous wallet/android app) could protect the identity of the ultimate buyer (me). Of course on the block chain you could see where the BTC originates (my verified account) however the wallet sending the BTC to the seller would be anonymous (with VPN used) therefore no way of proving you actually made the purchase.

Can you tell me anything about the sellers wallet/security status (what if little biggy/seller was hacked)

I'm looking to make my first purchase but still trying to understand everything

Honestly though, when it comes to weed, expecially small amounts, police won't go through the ball ache of trying to prove stuff like that, like I said the biggest potential issue is one of the RM.

I wish I could tell you about the sellers security, I just don't know anything about it to be honest. I think it would need to be escrow that got hacked to compromise our details? I know that the addresses and orders gets deleted from the biggy servers after x amount of days.

I placed my first order a week or two ago and have had 4 different things come since then. Just make sure you stick to reputable sellers and check out the reviews before you place an order.

Edge looks pretty cool. What function do you use to send BTC to the seller/another wallet? Seems to be fairly annon other than the BTC payment method

There's just a button that says send to wallet in the app

Wish I saw this earlier, paxful fucked me over so hard earlier I had to pay 15 in fees for a small purchase

The second I got charged X amount in fees by paxful I hunted and managed to find this wallet thankfully, the reviews and all that from others are good and my personal experience with it was good too so atleast you won't be charged exuberant amounts now lol

Not bad might give it ago as fees are getting ridiculous for me

The fees are terrible with most places. I feel bad for the vendors too cause they have additional fees too

whats a 30% drop amongst friends?

i've got a mate who actually called the top (he's the reason i was making so many threads about not being able to move my money this time last month) and he reckons we've reached a bottom now. Even the things he was telling me to look out for beforehand I have seen such as the capitualtion wick down to low 30ks. Now hopefully bitcoin goes back towards 50k

It's started going back up now

to god's ear my son

Investors must be absolutely shitting themselves now.

Can't imagine what it's like for the sellers on here who have money sat in escrow tho :(

I know nothing about it but heard a story a couple of weeks a go that some big players had all predicted the end of bitcoin was on the way so wouldn't bet on this sink being over yet.... could be good for buying btc if goes down to more reasonable level.

-30% across the big crypto’s now (3pm 19/5) !
Can the environment be enough to kill the golden goose??

This could well be the beginning of the end for Crypto, it’s been a bubble waiting to burst and that bubble may well now have burst. As zz87 says below, I feel really bad for all the vendors with Crypto stuck in escrow as they are going to have taken a mega hit, potentially a completely screw you over kinda hit.

I don't think you can 'end crypto'.

If you look at some of the newer crypto and how are they build you will start looking at BTC and ETH as more of prototypes than the actual currency.

I don't think regulators can keep up with technology. Remember - the point of crypto is to replace government controlled currency, it newer was about quick gains and 'one solution we have to stick with'. At some point you just won't need FIAT currencies to survive.

I been trying to wack a few quid extra in for vendors etc and whoever's looking after funds should be moving it around especially if their experienced enough I been riding the rollercoaster of crypto for a few yrs I think their trying to sink it BTC was created and people where told a few yrs back it's to cripple the economy but China couldn't let it ride the full course hence their trying to get every pennie back from it's citizens but if it stabilises then all the cheap BTC coming out of China should be a great asset it's not like their government won't try sell it next door cough cough Russia IMO but it could go alot of ways

Bottom line is some very rich people want a piece of the action. They resent the fact that this is a new technology they don’t control of have the hang of.
So they’ll try to destabilise the market under the auspices of ‘regulation’ ‘crime’ ‘customer access and consumer protection’’ and all the other bullshit excuses they can come up with to get their slice.
So there will be more dips and peaks forced by traders to try to liquidate their clients assets, the tech will not go away! It’s here to stay and in time there will be customer terminals and pay options for retail. It’s inevitable. I think BTC will robustly recover and be back up way above today’s levels by the end of the year.
Long term three year very healthy gains will be made ultimately. I hope that by 2024 we could see very large gain on investments.
Hold your nerve, diversify (freecoin, Shiba coin etc) and don’t let the Uber rich arseholes make a fortune from your assets!!! :)

Also- twats like Musk are just glorified government contractors. Dodgy ones at that! Yes he’s a bit clever, but not that much and he’s also an arsehole.
He tried to play the market and the market told him to fuck off. :)
Another tip is to invest in gold and silver. Don’t put all your eggs in one basket.
Metals are a good physical product while cash is ultimately worth jack shit if things go wrong!
This is all my opinion and not financial advice though.

Agree with Tommy . We've seen this before, players pushing price down to get cheap BTC.
To them morons who saying BTC will go to zero and end of crypto, put the pipe (joint) down and educate yourself ffs. !

It’s ends when people educate themselves about the differences of investment, speculation and outright gambling

Potentially at 0 because bitcoin is just an idea with no actual underlying value such as assets, future profits or current dividends. It’s just all hype, a who is the greater fool trading. Bitcoin is not an investment. Some will get rich but most will be left holding the ball with piss running down their trouser legs

Truth hurts, sorry to all those who believe bitcoin has any kind of book value or future dividends. Keep the zeal, it must be serving you well for your bitcoin “investment “. There is no way bitcoin has anything to do with hype;)

People are sheep, XMR is privacy based, what we are buying is illegal (in most places) so it would seem obvious to use xmr

but btc was the first coin and now the biggest

People follow crowds etc

the more research i do on monero the more its everything people told me bitcoin was! Cheap, fast, secure and ACTUALLY anonoymous. How do we get monero on here?

Yeah it pretty much better in every way, It would make LB a lot more secure

i agree xmr is a more secure option
it is at the end of the day deemed as a privacy coin

the only trouble i feel with this process is that customers may find difficulty creating theyre first transaction

as syncing the wallet can take upto a week using a regular hdd and a local node

this must be done, as without syncing the wallet no payments can be made

this is the issue i had when setting up and using xmr, my coins where basically stuck for a week while my getmonero gui synced

Think it's about time for a change to avoid future problems

I would be open to monero as a payment option

Bitcoin is to mainstream now,

What happens when they audit the Bitcoin block chain. Which they probably will at some point...

People are going to have big problems

I think we should use XRP? :D

Aren't they being investigated by the SEC for fraud.

Works for sellers but buyers will have a hard time exchanging into it.

I agree it does make more hassle for the buyer, but if you kept the btc payment system as well at leastpeople would have the choice

yeah no brainer for obvious reasons.

I am but how do we change?

I guess hopefully some body from the LB staff sees this and might work on making it happen, I can't really think of another way we could make it happen

More secure probably not, harder to trace maybe. But the dept for homeland security has had tools to trace it since Aug 2000.

they are truly amazing. not only is that before monero was invented it's before the department was established.

It's a typo, should be 2020.

;)

They’ve not cracked it, they are able to get a general idea but not the specifics, it’s gonna be a cat n mouse. OxMR has the new zsnark tech and maybe it’s the next gen

No !!!!, as it's getting banned. Got some xmr on Binance and can't fucking withdraw it.

XRP FTW

Greenfinger has a bit of a promising breakthrough.

yeah admin needs to add LITECOIN OR MONERO. Much cheaper fees and easily accesible for most

Bitcoin has become over priced to send, I tried to send the £19 I had left in my wallet set it to send all and it would only send £7.62 the balance £11.38 is fees. Tried the same transaction values with litecoin and the charge would have been 12p !!! COME ON LB INTRODUCE LITECOIN NOW!

the BTC in my wallet has lost close to £20 in value over the last 24 hours and no matter what time i try to send the fees are just so high! unless i want to set the limit to about 12 bytes and wait 6 hours ..lol

If you buy bnb then send ot to your atomic wallet you can change it to btc in the wallet and then set your own miner fee . I set my own miner fee to like a fiver it takes longer but the initial transaction still goes through. To swap from bnb to btc its not even even pound . Xlm would be the perfect currency or bnb . 0.01 xlm transaction costs which is less than a penny

The fluctuation and rise of btc price has driven fees up, personally I would use a wallet like electrum where you can select lower mining fees... One example might be buying a months worth of coins from a vendor like coinbase and transferring that to an electrum wallet, where you can then send payments at a lower tailored fee.

It may mean moving away from Paxful, but then be aware of minimum withdrawals as it may be possible to buy $30 worth btc, but the minimum you can take out is $70. Ultimately it's something you will have to research to find the best method/price for you, best of luck.

...or alternatively vote with our feet as the vendors have and just not use LB until it’s sorted properly and made fair for sellers and buyers.
It’s not rocket science to offer alternatives to BTC and it makes me slightly suspicious as to why LB are dragging their feet over this.
Come on LB! Don’t let us all down....

this comunnity should be using Nano.

its literally the same as bitcoin but feeless and transactions are instant- it would allow for cheaper and quicker
transactions. also cheaper items could be sold at no loss to fee's

https://nano.org/

I can understand why its BTC only - pretty much all the ‘real’ cash money (NOT USDT) still flows in and out of bitcoin almost exclusively. That being said the fees are definitely a problem making it impractical to buy smaller amounts from a variety of sellers which was always one of the things I really liked about this site

I think the fees will gradually come back down to earth but unfortunately so will the spot price ;)

Also....buy dogecoin . Buy it now.

As a noob added 60 USD to CEX.io but now cant pay for 50USD worth of anything as the BTC amount needs to be 0.002 to withdraw, maybe i am missing something here

It’s just another of the ways the exchanges kick us in the butt- minimum transfer amounts AND high fees- making small or even reasonable purchases unviable. Crypto.com has a minimum of 0.004 (!). Moved to Bitpanda but it is still 0.0015

Cheers using another service now as well

Yes it's safe.

If you were selling, you'd work differently.

As I understand it, and I'm new to the Bitcoin game too, It's better to transfer your coins to an offline wallet. Thereby keeping it completely safe. I use the Exodus wallet which is very user friendly. I then pay directly from there. The only issue I have had is (unintentionally) not paying the full amount, but this is down to my incompetence. And I'm sorting that I out!

Capacity limitations are baked into the bitcoin protocol. There have been opportunities to improve capacity but guess who controls the protocols?

This limit to how many btc is done on purpose obviously. And they have done it with certain projections in mind.
So when more than 45% of btc is in the wallets of 1% it starts to become a huge tool for manipulation and surveilance.

Who?

the miners mate

The users

And who owns most of bitcoin? Right!

All the more reason we have to switch to LTC, ETH and Monero!

Thanks for the link, I saw the record fee spike and thought there must be some issue, it's still climbing vertically. They need to burn more coal! 8-((

The CO2 cost of BC is humungous... please LB Gods make some other crypto available for payments!

I second that!!
ETH, Bitcoin Cash and Litecoin would be very easy to implement. And would mitigate the risk associated with putting all the eggs in a single basket :)

No more purchases for me with btc, not until a sensible payment option is available. :((

wait i came here to escape the last china fuck up

you came to the wrong decade mate

the pool of waiting transactions is insane

Unbelievable :(

So frustrating :(

Of all the days for this to happen!! Any chance he 420 specials can be extended till it doesn't cost a mint!

its asking for a £43 transaction fee if i want to send the btc in the 30 min provided by the escrow, ive had to cancel my order

He gives me hope that the revolution is unstoppable, that an exit from a corrupted society is not only possible but inevitable.

In the meantime we have LB :)

When I read the title I thought this was about capitalism and making people dependent upon money. Instead this is about the fact that government issues currency and can use that to control everything it touches basically, it's a shocking eye opener.

Yes it's not even the amount of money they have it's that they define it, that's implies ultimate ownership of all of it.

Spot on

super inspiring wish more people would see how they are played by the system.

All of his lectures are great. I'd recommend the podcasts over the video, they look like a spycam.

The evil that is fiat money has only put a roof over my head, given me an education, bought my car, yearly holidays, food, clothes, medication, healthcare, books, games, TVs, drink, drugs, guitars, computers, phones, tablets and countless other goods and services that have brought pleasure, entertainment and increased my living standard over the years. Those who control fiat money are evil. The bastards. I feel like a twat now for been so gullible.

i've been looking for a good roofer, does he take bitcoin

i would have though it was your labour that earned that rather than a central bank.

sure, pre 2020 :)

Yes of course and like a complete idiot I exchanged that labour for central bank issued fiat money that I thought was giving me freedom to satisfy my needs, wants and desires and have a wonderful fulfilling life. What a fool I have been.

I hear ya dog, like an even bigger idiot i learned about bitcoin years ago (from here as a matter of fact) but kept my money in fiat :(

At least with multiple currencies we still have the power to choose, isn't that what freedom is?

There's currently a viral post going around showing a photo in a pizza hut window saying 'credit cards only' and then some crap saying how people will lose control of their assets if we move away from money lol.

It doesn't matter if it's cards, bank deposits or even cash in hand. It's all under the control of a central government that's why it's called "fiat". It can be seized, de-valued, or bankrupted. Given enough time that's exactly what has happened to *every* fiat currency in history.

except the ones in existence today

insanity, sounds like one milestone forward 2 milestones back next. SELL

Like the wallet but HUGE warning to anyone using their support. It's on an unmentionable messaging platform and its a fucking cesspool of scammers acting like they are support people asking for credentials.

Is Trust a no-trust wallet? And if so in what sense :)

I can recommend this one as I use it meself!

Trust wallet is very easy to navigate and the dex works well

Definitely +1 for Luno. Their app is very good and the sign up was simple.

Try the app called 'Luno' working great so far no problems.