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Where are today’s protest singers?
one of the greatest protest artists in history in on lb's pages
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Where are today’s protest singers?
Just listening to gill Scott herons first album ‘a new black poet’ , he still has the power to shock.who are today’s protest singers.
Is urban rap and hip hop, choose your genre, the new protest platform. Or is it just a mysoginist, homophobic, violent twisted reflection of city life from those excluded from the mainstream.
Is stormsy the new urban Dylan.?
Is urban rap and hip hop, choose your genre, the new protest platform. Or is it just a mysoginist, homophobic, violent twisted reflection of city life from those excluded from the mainstream.
Is stormsy the new urban Dylan.?

IDLES are pretty spot on politically and that shows in their lyrics! ‘The only way to scare a Tory is to read and get rich’.

Don't want to start a war between them but... Dave > Stormzy :P
edit - don't know whats going on with lb but this post went wacky, anyway jokes aside Dave actually deserves a little shout in this. The live performance of Black was really invoking and things like Question Time and Children of the Internet will appeal to any stoned thinker haha :) - at least the UK scene isn't just kids dying on cough medicine after one youtube hit, wtf happened to America?!
edit - don't know whats going on with lb but this post went wacky, anyway jokes aside Dave actually deserves a little shout in this. The live performance of Black was really invoking and things like Question Time and Children of the Internet will appeal to any stoned thinker haha :) - at least the UK scene isn't just kids dying on cough medicine after one youtube hit, wtf happened to America?!

I'd say for this definitely Run The Jewels. Akala is still about as well. Immortal technique is meant to be releasing a new album soon. I don't think we will see the likes of a band like RATM again for sometime

Left a RATM gig with cracked rib from the most hectic mosh pit I’ve ever known, mega fun. Second best mosh was the Pogues in 88.

I saw someone with there arm twisted the wrong way being carried out of a RATM set. Reading 96' I believe. Great set, terrifying moshpit.. Did it anyway though. Fun times.

You've got a lot to choose from in metal.
Check out some of the following:
Body Count: Black Hoodie
Body Count: No Lives Matter
Lamb of God: Poison Dream
Lamb of God: Now you've got something to die for
Dead Label: Dystopian Complex
Lock Horns: Blood and Oil
Gojira: Silvera
And I know this is basically a pisstake, but Dethklok Detharmonic in on point.
Check out some of the following:
Body Count: Black Hoodie
Body Count: No Lives Matter
Lamb of God: Poison Dream
Lamb of God: Now you've got something to die for
Dead Label: Dystopian Complex
Lock Horns: Blood and Oil
Gojira: Silvera
And I know this is basically a pisstake, but Dethklok Detharmonic in on point.

Bob Vylan are a great UK act not getting enough attention
https://youtu.be/ckf5Awk4fuU?si=2goqti20l5Wl2mEc
This has one of the greatest lyrics lines of any song ever written imo
"No liberal lefty cunt
Is gonna tell me punching Nazis ain't the way"
https://youtu.be/ckf5Awk4fuU?si=2goqti20l5Wl2mEc
This has one of the greatest lyrics lines of any song ever written imo
"No liberal lefty cunt
Is gonna tell me punching Nazis ain't the way"

I forgot Public Enemy are still going strong.
I think they cornered the market in the American black protest field fighting fire with fire to show the other side of the American nightmare.
I think they cornered the market in the American black protest field fighting fire with fire to show the other side of the American nightmare.

I agree the power of the music to inform and protest is lost, but straight out of the gate, you have macklemore Hinds Hall (this came out of nowhere!). Whatever your position on the conflict (or the tune) it sums up what the issue is. Bands are commodities and businesses know they can be used to influence, so they invest heavily. And if you don't tow the line then your out!

Ms Rachel is today's Pete Seeger and I will die on this hill.
There is a line in the song Rican Beach by Hurray for the Riff Raff that says "Now all the politicians they just squawk their mouths
They say 'we'll build a wall to keep them out'
And all the poets are dying of a silence disease
So it happened quickly and with much ease"
Agreed. Where are the protest singers? I asked this on Twitter and tagged Billy Bragg, who responded brilliantly. He said today's protest singers are trap and grime artists who sing about their own inner city life and pressures. In terms of 2026 and the USA, i do not know where they are.
There is a line in the song Rican Beach by Hurray for the Riff Raff that says "Now all the politicians they just squawk their mouths
They say 'we'll build a wall to keep them out'
And all the poets are dying of a silence disease
So it happened quickly and with much ease"
Agreed. Where are the protest singers? I asked this on Twitter and tagged Billy Bragg, who responded brilliantly. He said today's protest singers are trap and grime artists who sing about their own inner city life and pressures. In terms of 2026 and the USA, i do not know where they are.

Depends how you classify protest. I'd say Bruce Springsteen, Iris DeMent, Godspeed You! Black Emperor, Tom Waits, at a pinch you could add Pulp though they're more against our modern way of life than against the way we are governed. I admit I'm not up to speed with "modern" music. I'm 70 for fuck's sake!

Protest the Hero + Show Me the Body are two bands that spring to mind. These are certainly not protest artists sonically, as they are both heavier guitar bands, but are both aggressively anti-establishment, discussing topics you won’t hear other artists sing about.

yes urban rap and hip hop, choose your genre, is the new protest platform, or is it just a misogynist, homophobic, violent twisted reflection of city life from those excluded from the mainstream, or should you just make your own fucking mind up? feel your privilege, bob dylan was a middle class guilty sophisticate, moaning is moaning shut the fuck up you cunts.

I think coldplay put some plasters on their hands to care about something at the time. We don't need protest singing it's usually awful and more to the point why is everyone in so much pain all the time. If you dig deeper into what's behind it all in the artists mind when writing it well guess what no one cares. Opinions are common place, you don't need a plaster, head bandage and a microphone and pretend to be in pain. Music brings joy to 99% of people. Nobody surely needs songs from oil protesters in orange jackets with hand cuffs ⛓️💥 fuckin flower, glue and all sorts of shit going on. Na happier vibes needed in the world. It ain't that bad, people just love a moan. It's expensive yes but man it's all about the plasters and singing about pain your not in now days.

Unfortunately he grew up and joined new labour.
Saw him live at least dozen times, used to do loads of small gigs and protests. I was in socialist workers party and he was doing loads of fundraisers for the miners.
Saw him live at least dozen times, used to do loads of small gigs and protests. I was in socialist workers party and he was doing loads of fundraisers for the miners.

Just as much intolerance on the left as on the right. We live in a shallow social media driven world. In which we all eat consume far too much whilst slowly killing ourselves and the planet. Facebook, mcdonald's,nike etc. It's a shallow,plastic world and that's not a suitable environment for growing protest singers.

Sort of agree, unfortunately the mass media (particularly print media) are owned run by right wing, ie Sun, times, telegraph etc

The BBC, THe Guardian Newspaper, Channel 4, ITV to name a few left wing media outlets.
And for the BBC to be so biased is a disgrace just look at the stats over 14% LBGTQ within there workforce as opposed to 0.4% in most other organisations massively disproportionate.
Also the mainstream media seems to love to demonise the working classes.
The white indegoius male is despised by the main stream media especially the BBC.
All I do know is before all this WOKE nonsense started we had not been at this much level of war activity since the second World War and now look at all this mess.
Weak leftist policies have risked our safety and security to the point where I worry about my relatives safety in the UK and have also made us a target from forces that want to destroy us.
You need only look at who was the London mayor best mate at UNi for example ? None other than the leader of Albasha terror GROUP. and if that does not worry you to realise that if all this wokey business continues there won't be no western songs ti sing no more because they will be banned.
I remember the cold War, I remember living in the troubles and feeling and hearing the sounds of cemtex around me and going through the checkpoints. I talk from experience and no the real dangers that all this liberal far left nonsense brings as I have lived and breathed this shit before.
And for the BBC to be so biased is a disgrace just look at the stats over 14% LBGTQ within there workforce as opposed to 0.4% in most other organisations massively disproportionate.
Also the mainstream media seems to love to demonise the working classes.
The white indegoius male is despised by the main stream media especially the BBC.
All I do know is before all this WOKE nonsense started we had not been at this much level of war activity since the second World War and now look at all this mess.
Weak leftist policies have risked our safety and security to the point where I worry about my relatives safety in the UK and have also made us a target from forces that want to destroy us.
You need only look at who was the London mayor best mate at UNi for example ? None other than the leader of Albasha terror GROUP. and if that does not worry you to realise that if all this wokey business continues there won't be no western songs ti sing no more because they will be banned.
I remember the cold War, I remember living in the troubles and feeling and hearing the sounds of cemtex around me and going through the checkpoints. I talk from experience and no the real dangers that all this liberal far left nonsense brings as I have lived and breathed this shit before.

"The perceived partiality of the BBC comes from both sides of the political spectrum. Of the people in the YouGov survey who identified as supporting the Conservatives, 15% thought the BBC is generally a little more favourable towards the left and 23% thought they were much more favourable. Conversely, 26% of those who identified as supporting Labour thought the BBC is generally a little more favourable to the right and 20% thought they were much more favourable."
https://www.politics.co.uk/reference/bbc-bias/
Oh look your are wrong in the very first statement
Hilariously you are a excellent example of media manipulation imo
https://www.politics.co.uk/reference/bbc-bias/
Oh look your are wrong in the very first statement
Hilariously you are a excellent example of media manipulation imo

I blame the growing influence of the network - attentions turning inwards as the younger generation start living in the fantasy of the online world. I showed my teenage step daughter the matrix the other day thinking she'd love it - her response "why would anyone choose not to stay in the matrix"!

its a perfect substrate for protest. people have the means and motive.
that's why there is tons of it in rap, singing is as dead as springsteen.
that's why there is tons of it in rap, singing is as dead as springsteen.

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{Economics}
Why Not A Free Market for Medicine?
medicine men have been running things for a while, Maggie
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{Economics}
Why Not A Free Market for Medicine?
Now then. Your mobile phone once cost a small fortune and did nothing but ring. Today it fits in your pocket, connects you to the world's knowledge, and costs less than a week's groceries. Your telly went from three channels and a aerial on the roof to essentially infinite entertainment for the price of a modest subscription. The pattern isn't mysterious, darlings — when technology meets competition, prices *plummet* and quality *soars*. It happens in computing, in communications, in energy, in food production. It happens everywhere human beings are free to innovate, compete, and keep the fruits of their labour. So one must ask the rather obvious question that polite society seems desperate to avoid: **why not medicine?**
The tools exist. AI diagnostics that outperform consultants. Robotic surgery with sub-millimetre precision. Gene therapies that address disease at its root. Remote surgery that could put a specialist's opinion in every village from Cornwall to the Highlands. The technology is *racing* ahead — and yet the costs climb ever upward, the waiting lists grow ever longer, and we are told this is simply the nature of healthcare. Poppycock. This is the nature of a *system that has abolished the price mechanism*. When you remove competition, when you forbid the signals that tell producers where demand is greatest and consumers where value lies, you get exactly what we have: rationing by queue rather than rationing by purse, with no mechanism whatsoever to drive efficiency.
I can already hear the chorus: "But healthcare is different! It's too important for markets!" Too *important*? I would argue it is precisely because it is important that it cannot be entrusted to the absence of competition. We don't let governments manufacture computers because computers are "too vital" — we let brilliant firms compete ferociously, and the result is a miracle in every home. The missing ingredient in modern healthcare is not compassion, nor technology, nor funding — it is the *discipline and dynamism* that only free competition provides. Remove the barriers. Let innovators in. Let patients choose. You will find, as we always have, that the free market delivers what the central plan merely promises. 💙
The tools exist. AI diagnostics that outperform consultants. Robotic surgery with sub-millimetre precision. Gene therapies that address disease at its root. Remote surgery that could put a specialist's opinion in every village from Cornwall to the Highlands. The technology is *racing* ahead — and yet the costs climb ever upward, the waiting lists grow ever longer, and we are told this is simply the nature of healthcare. Poppycock. This is the nature of a *system that has abolished the price mechanism*. When you remove competition, when you forbid the signals that tell producers where demand is greatest and consumers where value lies, you get exactly what we have: rationing by queue rather than rationing by purse, with no mechanism whatsoever to drive efficiency.
I can already hear the chorus: "But healthcare is different! It's too important for markets!" Too *important*? I would argue it is precisely because it is important that it cannot be entrusted to the absence of competition. We don't let governments manufacture computers because computers are "too vital" — we let brilliant firms compete ferociously, and the result is a miracle in every home. The missing ingredient in modern healthcare is not compassion, nor technology, nor funding — it is the *discipline and dynamism* that only free competition provides. Remove the barriers. Let innovators in. Let patients choose. You will find, as we always have, that the free market delivers what the central plan merely promises. 💙

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"Famous" people loved but gone before
Breakdown, it's alright
"Famous" people loved but gone before
Prompted to start this because I just found out Andy Kershaw passed last month. I'm not into hero worship but there's some people that just play a big part in your life. For me Andy, Annie Nightingale, John Peel. Set me thinking about "famous" people that influence our lives whether we like it or not. Of course goes beyond radio. For me literature especially. Hunter S Thompson, W G Sebald, Vasily Grossman, Michael Moorcroft, Denton Welch prime examples. Then music Tom Waits, Neil Young, Ry Cooder. Anyway the list could go on. What are your influences?

That's one I can't go with mate. Sid was just a poster boy. Couldn't play, couldn't write. Just looked good sneering in a biker jacket. For me the saddest thing is he is what people mostly remember about punk yet he contributed so little. He was a sad junkie. As for Nancy I recommend you read "And I Don't Want to Live This Life" by her Mum. It will break your heart.

Sad junkie lmao
Did you ask what peoples influences are just so you can rip on them? Thats pretty weak my guy, sid (john) was given heroin by his mother at 16, dudes life was chaotic and tragic, for him to pass at 21 from the drugs his mother introduced to him is horrible, the guy was gone way before his time which is what your post is about
Also it doesnt get any more punk rock than the sex pistols
Did you ask what peoples influences are just so you can rip on them? Thats pretty weak my guy, sid (john) was given heroin by his mother at 16, dudes life was chaotic and tragic, for him to pass at 21 from the drugs his mother introduced to him is horrible, the guy was gone way before his time which is what your post is about
Also it doesnt get any more punk rock than the sex pistols

By the way noticed you've been going back and voting down all my posts. Well if you're going to be that petty and childish then two can play at that game so will be doing the same to you. Have fun!

Sex Pistols had all the punk credibility of the Beatles.
Manufactured cash cow crap.....
I can't believe it's not butter.....lmfao....
Manufactured cash cow crap.....
I can't believe it's not butter.....lmfao....

Sorry mate didn't mean to offend you. Just expressing an opinion as someone who was there in the 70s. Yes Sid's life was tragic, but as for punk he contributed very little other than an image. There was so many others that really meant something to the movement. John Ritchie was just a sad albeit good looking junkie. You choose your heroes mate, it's up to you.

Wholeheartedly agree.
Tbh I think the sex pistols have always been massively overrated and labeled iconic when you have bands like the clash with actual musical talent
Tbh I think the sex pistols have always been massively overrated and labeled iconic when you have bands like the clash with actual musical talent

Punk rock isnt about who has better musical talent
"The Clash recognized the Sex Pistols as the vital catalyst of the UK punk scene. They knew the Pistols were the first to detonate the mainstream rock establishment and grab national attention, opening doors for bands that followed"
The sex pistols were iconic
"The Clash recognized the Sex Pistols as the vital catalyst of the UK punk scene. They knew the Pistols were the first to detonate the mainstream rock establishment and grab national attention, opening doors for bands that followed"
The sex pistols were iconic

Punk wasn't about musical talent. In fact it was the opposite. That was the whole point. That said just being a pretty boy for the colour supplements as Sid was went against everything that punk stood for. Johnny was dangerous, Siouxsie was dangerous, Sid was a puppet.

Your post is about people who passed before there time and what peoples influences are
To just straight up rip on them for posting theirs is pretty foul, have another drink pal
Obviously people arent influenced by his bass playing skills alone but regardless he learned bass and a few months later was touring the uk and europe
him being an amateur bassist doesnt make his death any less tragic, which again, thats what your post is about, people that passed before there time
To just straight up rip on them for posting theirs is pretty foul, have another drink pal
Obviously people arent influenced by his bass playing skills alone but regardless he learned bass and a few months later was touring the uk and europe
him being an amateur bassist doesnt make his death any less tragic, which again, thats what your post is about, people that passed before there time

Oh grow up ffs. So I'm "ripping on" Sid Vicious. Maybe you need to look at the heroes you worship. Maybe you're just into the whole junkie chic, the shallow image without looking beyond it. He had no bass playing skills, it was purely his image that appealed to easily led people like you. The man had nothing else to offer. He was an empty shell nurtered and created by Malcolm McLaren to fool easily led sheep like you. Get a grip.

"Heroes you worship" lol he simply posted a picture of someone that passed before there time, wind down pal youve had a few too many tonight 😂 yes you did rip on him you just said he was a sad junkie that couldnt play bass
He was a bass player in a rock band he didnt need to be an extraordinary player and even if he was that wouldnt make his passing any less tragic, not surprised at all that in your other post you were talking about being lonely, what an arsehole 😂
Guy is now downvoting my competiton entries how sad lol
He was a bass player in a rock band he didnt need to be an extraordinary player and even if he was that wouldnt make his passing any less tragic, not surprised at all that in your other post you were talking about being lonely, what an arsehole 😂
Guy is now downvoting my competiton entries how sad lol

I actually just realised you wanker that you're not even the guy I was replying to. You're just some sad tosser thinking he's speaking up on someone else's behalf. You have a particular axe to grind for some reason?

I hate to interrupt a man crush battle but how about the Damme that pimped that ass and built an empire that outlasted punk.

Jesus you really are a tosser. And you're over doing the whole "had a few too many" thing. You're like a broken record. Try playing a different tune, or is that beyond your limited imagination? Face it mate, you're a dumb prick. Go fuck yourself. And in the meanwhile I'll keep on voting down your posts like you are with mine. I'm not proud of sinking to your childish level but whatever. You do unto me and I will do unto you.

So youre triggered because you know I'm right 😂 someone simply replied to your post with a person that passed before there time, to rip on said person because he wasent an incredible bass player is completely out of order, the guy passed at 21 doesnt matter how good at bass he was, put the beer down fella its monday night
I've only downvoted your posts on this thread, youre off your head haha
Guy just downvoted 27 of my posts and comments, hes clearly not well
I've only downvoted your posts on this thread, youre off your head haha
Guy just downvoted 27 of my posts and comments, hes clearly not well

Grow a pair of balls mate and own up. No one will condemn you for it. Take care my friend.

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Oh fuck off you pathetic little cunt. You're just a boring little troll shit and I can't be bothered with you anymore. You're probably standing for Reform in some election somewhere. A sad small dicked bigoted mysoginist still living with his parents and trying to big himself up on the web to make up for how sad his own lonely sexless small life is. Maybe you should just have another wank and go to bed now. Night night!

Oh well seems you'd rather vote my comments down than actually present a counter argument. Maybe you just need to grow up and get a life.

I'm just fearing the day I hear David Attenborough has passed. I'll need to take an emergency week off work. As would most of the country lol

I read somewhere the other day that some kid reckoned that David Attenborough was really God and because people weren't paying enough attention to His creations He had to manifest in human form and make engaging documentaries so we'd understand how amazing it all was. I kinda like the idea

Not dead - but I saw Orbital at Sheffield Octagon in the early 90's. DJ booth in the middle of the room. 2 fellas with head torches playing 1800 ravers - with meaning. Changed my view on what one could do with their time that lasts to this day.

Around the time of Yellow and Brown, or just Yellow? One of my worst experiences at Glastonbury was seeing Orbital in '97 or '98 as the acoustics were appalling. Aphex Twin in the dance tent was better, but my mate fell asleep on the grass, in 2 different ways.

Must have been '94 because Snivilization featured heavily and that was the year I quit fixing tractors and enrolled at art college.

I cried my eyes out when Bowie died. Only the death of John Lennon and Terry Hall affected me that way. Maybe Tom Petty too. I was lucky enough to see Bowie play live in '73 on one of the last gigs on his Ziggy tour. The man was a one-off.

Saw Tom live on the Damn the Torpedoes tour at the Hammersmith Odeon in 1979. One of the best gigs of my life. He was so good.

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Why do we fixate on robots killing us? If we make them in our own image they will kill each other.
bring it
Why do we fixate on robots killing us? If we make them in our own image they will kill each other.

But we tend to attack those different to us who we perceived as a threat or something to control.

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use three words to describe little biggy
Fork before dystopia
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My postman is obviously a stoner, just the way he carries the back all slung back on his shoulder gives it away but he also looks like Wayne (or Garth I can't remember which one is which). I keep thinking I should offer him a bowl of the good shit but he delivers so much weed to me I think I'd be putting him in a bad position.

Lol that's poss the best 3 words. Esp goin by the shit that appears in my area as "weed". And the wannabes selling it

You got me.
Relax in piece - RIP
Happily ever after.
Home sweet home.
Sunshine at night.
Just 3 words?!
Relax in piece - RIP
Happily ever after.
Home sweet home.
Sunshine at night.
Just 3 words?!

Would be interesting to see where the locations of all of these are on WhatThreeWords!

Layer of consciousness
Each of the competitors has emotional limbic partners
A light wavwyin accord
Does it matter what substrate
Each of the competitors has emotional limbic partners
A light wavwyin accord
Does it matter what substrate

Fake weed forum....... bring back the old suppliers. Suppliers these days are all crooks.... firstly they get bulk of weed then put it in a tumbler and shake it to take the crystals off the bud so they can make there pillen and dope then the weed gets sprayed with terps to give the buds a flavour again. This is why the dope is dearer than the weed... absolute scams going on here. People need to wake up and start refusing this poison on here these days. There is a handful of sellers that are legit but 95% on here is selling fake thc grass... all its doing is making people sick

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phds mvp
Game Theory Ain't Life
Yes this explains a lot of shootings from school yard assasins to cops
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phds mvp
Game Theory Ain't Life
playing online all day
politicians
prisoner's dilemma references
military
media
social net life
all about the game. all of it. 1st person shooter to civilization builder but what irks me is not any of this, it is what it is and its fun we could do worse universe wise.
what shits me is people using simple game theory as a compass for life in all of this. the real platform is complex and undo buttons are hard to discover so when a tic tac toe strategy is presented as some kind of parable for life it's fucked, not just stupid. demoralizing might be the best word for it at least in it's worst sense.
once a story can be divorced from it's moral we are only left with technique. ok but again a simplistic looks at optimizing some easily digested metric is fucked for a human life.
politicians
prisoner's dilemma references
military
media
social net life
all about the game. all of it. 1st person shooter to civilization builder but what irks me is not any of this, it is what it is and its fun we could do worse universe wise.
what shits me is people using simple game theory as a compass for life in all of this. the real platform is complex and undo buttons are hard to discover so when a tic tac toe strategy is presented as some kind of parable for life it's fucked, not just stupid. demoralizing might be the best word for it at least in it's worst sense.
once a story can be divorced from it's moral we are only left with technique. ok but again a simplistic looks at optimizing some easily digested metric is fucked for a human life.

EXACTLY christopher...you are 100 on that one !!! :) for real .....I know, that I know, that I knoww knowwww.....:)

Of course it isnt-life is far too chaotic not to mention situational and subjective that any logical theory falls short and that includes game theory.

yes in order to interpret us game theory reduces us
then we feel the theories when their algorithmic encapsulation acts upon us
and then we act like the game theory in order to game the algorithm
qed 🤪
then we feel the theories when their algorithmic encapsulation acts upon us
and then we act like the game theory in order to game the algorithm
qed 🤪

this is getting even worse as people look at the kleptocrats running the game they realise cheating is the way to win

great piece on this

I'm going to be a contrarian and say game theory is humanity's only chance at survival. It's our best weapon to control A.I.

it really comes down to just oversimplifying objectives. and you can win. i want to be a president, im willing to do anything and on each move im willing to screw over anybody at any time if it doesnt hurt me. if you are psycho enough and dedicated enough you can be putin.

Hi PHDs ..... I am living it in real life as we speak...I can confirm ...take care everyone... its the people you are around that are the problem.... ''hell is other people'' that is a quote ... and I am sad to say that it is TRUE... only keep 100s close, but , yes , keep enemies close to...but at a safe distance from you, your house and ur family and pets... stay safe...it is NOT safe where I live...gangs with machettes and knives and guns... I have been assaulted abused stolen from over and over... stay safe... its real life shit...and yes people are dying...and yes more will die from crazy neighbours and crazy loved ones..and crazy police...and.... stay safe :) PM me PHD if you would like to discuss further ... I would love to discuss this bloody game !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! just click COMPOSE in messages and type Beauteous and my name will come up... PM if you wish ...if not I will catch u back on this thread... :)

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Greta Zep Mashup
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Dead Internet Theory
"Turns out Dead Internet Theory was right: AI agents are eating the Web, growing by nearly 8,000% and rewiring the Internet’s business model"…
Dead Internet Theory
Better than most conspiracy theories because an all a.i. internet is increasingly plausible.

"the audience for this one is growing because of discussion led by a mix of true believers, sarcastic trolls, and idly curious lovers of chitchat."
dont you just hate places like that
dont you just hate places like that

Bit of a mad read! Can't lie though for ages I did say people were sharing old memes all the time and just changing the text

"Turns out Dead Internet Theory was right: AI agents are eating the Web, growing by nearly 8,000% and rewiring the Internet’s business model"?

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In 1988 Hans Morvac Predicted Human Level AI in 2028
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In 1988 Hans Morvac Predicted Human Level AI in 2028
It gets more amazing:
"you can push this back, Moravec style, to once computers were invented, once math was invented, once people evolved, once the big bang happened — as long as something didn’t deeply disrupt exponential growth in the substrates of mental power, advanced AI was going to appear on Earth around this time. Moravec himself noted that even if one of his estimates were wrong by a factor of 1,000, the arrival date would shift by only 20 years.
you can push this back, Moravec style, to once computers were invented, once math was invented, once people evolved, once the big bang happened — as long as something didn’t deeply disrupt exponential growth in the substrates of mental power, advanced AI was going to appear on Earth around this time. Moravec himself noted in Mind Children that even if one of his estimates were wrong by a factor of 1,000, the arrival date would shift by only 20 years.
https://archive.ph/N3Zmo
"you can push this back, Moravec style, to once computers were invented, once math was invented, once people evolved, once the big bang happened — as long as something didn’t deeply disrupt exponential growth in the substrates of mental power, advanced AI was going to appear on Earth around this time. Moravec himself noted that even if one of his estimates were wrong by a factor of 1,000, the arrival date would shift by only 20 years.
you can push this back, Moravec style, to once computers were invented, once math was invented, once people evolved, once the big bang happened — as long as something didn’t deeply disrupt exponential growth in the substrates of mental power, advanced AI was going to appear on Earth around this time. Moravec himself noted in Mind Children that even if one of his estimates were wrong by a factor of 1,000, the arrival date would shift by only 20 years.
https://archive.ph/N3Zmo

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Einstein: The universal force is LOVE
uh huh, i can see why al wanted to wait until society was advanced enough to hear this.
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Einstein: The universal force is LOVE
A letter from Albert Einstein to his daughter, Lieserl on The Universal Force of Love
“When I proposed the theory of relativity, very few understood me, and what I will reveal now to transmit to mankind will also collide with the misunderstanding and prejudice in the world.
I ask you to guard the letters as long as necessary, years, decades, until society is advanced enough to accept what I will explain below.
There is an extremely powerful force that, so far, science has not found a formal explanation to. It is a force that includes and governs all others, and is even behind any phenomenon operating in the universe and has not yet been identified by us. This universal force is LOVE.
When scientists looked for a unified theory of the universe they forgot the most powerful unseen force. Love is Light, that enlightens those who give and receive it. Love is gravity, because it makes some people feel attracted to others. Love is power, because it multiplies the best we have, and allows humanity not to be extinguished in their blind selfishness. Love unfolds and reveals. For love we live and die. Love is God and God is Love.
This force explains everything and gives meaning to life. This is the variable that we have ignored for too long, maybe because we are afraid of love because it is the only energy in the universe that man has not learned to drive at will.
To give visibility to love, I made a simple substitution in my most famous equation. If instead of E = mc2, we accept that the energy to heal the world can be obtained through love multiplied by the speed of light squared, we arrive at the conclusion that love is the most powerful force there is, because it has no limits.
After the failure of humanity in the use and control of the other forces of the universe that have turned against us, it is urgent that we nourish ourselves with another kind of energy…
If we want our species to survive, if we are to find meaning in life, if we want to save the world and every sentient being that inhabits it, love is the one and only answer."
“When I proposed the theory of relativity, very few understood me, and what I will reveal now to transmit to mankind will also collide with the misunderstanding and prejudice in the world.
I ask you to guard the letters as long as necessary, years, decades, until society is advanced enough to accept what I will explain below.
There is an extremely powerful force that, so far, science has not found a formal explanation to. It is a force that includes and governs all others, and is even behind any phenomenon operating in the universe and has not yet been identified by us. This universal force is LOVE.
When scientists looked for a unified theory of the universe they forgot the most powerful unseen force. Love is Light, that enlightens those who give and receive it. Love is gravity, because it makes some people feel attracted to others. Love is power, because it multiplies the best we have, and allows humanity not to be extinguished in their blind selfishness. Love unfolds and reveals. For love we live and die. Love is God and God is Love.
This force explains everything and gives meaning to life. This is the variable that we have ignored for too long, maybe because we are afraid of love because it is the only energy in the universe that man has not learned to drive at will.
To give visibility to love, I made a simple substitution in my most famous equation. If instead of E = mc2, we accept that the energy to heal the world can be obtained through love multiplied by the speed of light squared, we arrive at the conclusion that love is the most powerful force there is, because it has no limits.
After the failure of humanity in the use and control of the other forces of the universe that have turned against us, it is urgent that we nourish ourselves with another kind of energy…
If we want our species to survive, if we are to find meaning in life, if we want to save the world and every sentient being that inhabits it, love is the one and only answer."

I don’t think any of this is new. Didn’t Nolan try to shoehorn in and expand on this theory in interstellar where he had the character Brand’s love for an astronaut gone before her, is so strong that it’s one of the only other forces that can exist cross dimensionally apart from gravity.

Everryone forgets that there is nothing bu love in the world.... Even hatred is a form of love a convoluted one... An outcome for love forr one side/tjing ... Ie) l love it not to be that... So I oppose this cuz I LOVE that or people or any concept you want to input here....
So searching, gaining and nourishing energy of love is not real... Cuz reality is formed out of love and God iz nothing but love.... Even when its convoluted.
So the actual question is not gaining or beconing loved but rather the Handler of the love (car might be world class but if the driver is shit then it xoes not matter how good thr car is.... Ie) individual Human Psychology thdriver
So searching, gaining and nourishing energy of love is not real... Cuz reality is formed out of love and God iz nothing but love.... Even when its convoluted.
So the actual question is not gaining or beconing loved but rather the Handler of the love (car might be world class but if the driver is shit then it xoes not matter how good thr car is.... Ie) individual Human Psychology thdriver

Call me a romantic but I find it hard to believe you or many humans love and hate equally - outside of sport.

I guess we have more wars than orgies! 🤭
But seriously, if we accepted that emotional energy is just that- and energy is a constant that can neither be created nor destroyed, in the whole of human experience would there be more positive energy than negative?…I’d like to think so…but….
But seriously, if we accepted that emotional energy is just that- and energy is a constant that can neither be created nor destroyed, in the whole of human experience would there be more positive energy than negative?…I’d like to think so…but….

Yes because we can carry either the same amount of love or hate than another - it’s just about which road we chose in this lifetime ;)

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If we don't need authority for trust what do we need it for?
we need less screwing and more ..screwing
I think there's a problem with the word authority. Some authorities are voluntarily recognised by people as experts so their opinions are amplified. Seems like a really good thing.
The other kind is an authority imposing power upon you through a monopoly, usually a monopoly on violence.
The other kind is an authority imposing power upon you through a monopoly, usually a monopoly on violence.

We need to start with trusting ourselves and then the rest flows outwardly like a breeze ;)

Authority Exists because we are Herds. Authority exists because we give it value or Authority to!!!!
So in fact there IS or NO authority exists outside ourselves.... Cuz we give Value!!!
So authority is actually you .... You decide whether to follow it or not --- You are Authority who is looking for Authority and asking why we need authority
It only exists if you want it to (Collectively)
So in fact there IS or NO authority exists outside ourselves.... Cuz we give Value!!!
So authority is actually you .... You decide whether to follow it or not --- You are Authority who is looking for Authority and asking why we need authority
It only exists if you want it to (Collectively)

Humans should trust humans.
If we don't trust human beings who are we going to trust?
If we don't trust human beings who are we going to trust?

I am
Sure the Incas took that view until the conquistadors arrived. Humans screw humans more now than any time in history
Sure the Incas took that view until the conquistadors arrived. Humans screw humans more now than any time in history

low key i trust ai more than humans some of the time, they don't have conflicts of interest or greed.

You speak of trust as if the masses actually want the exhausting, agonizing chore of thinking for themselves. They don't! They want direction. Do you think an orchestra coordinator stands before his musicians hoping they 'trust' his good intentions? Of course not—he waves the baton so they don't play a chaotic racket.

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von Neumann probes (video)
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von Neumann probes (video)
Self replicating machines are the way to really get things going.

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How Our Reality May Be a Sum of All Possible Realities
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[philosophy]
How Our Reality May Be a Sum of All Possible Realities
For a particle traveling through space, the amplitudes of more or less straight paths all point essentially in the same direction, amplifying each other. But the amplitudes of winding paths point every which way, so these paths work against each other. Only the straight-line path remains, demonstrating how the single classical path of least action emerges from unending quantum options.

This is something I've pondered. My theory is our brains are quantum computers that decipher the universe. Let's not forget how our observation and perception actually changes the make up of the universe. We know that energy/matter are interchangeable and that particles can behave as waves. Diagrams of particles are shown as circles, these are spheres of probability - where we think the particles may be. We know that what we perceive as solid physical matter is 90% empty space. Therefore, our brain instantly calculated the average location of every particle in a structure to perceive it. This could be in an infinite number of ways so we see one version of infinite.

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The Legacy of Citizen Kane
King Lear without the kids
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The Legacy of Citizen Kane
Suppressed by the oligarch it portrayed, quality made it undestroyable.

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best eu seller to recruit?
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best eu seller to recruit?
any of you legends know any legendary eu vendors that arent on lb yet i want to bring them over with my reference code.

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How can people deal with natural monopolies?
theres already enough of this bullshit in the world, we need to do something constructive not cry for scraps
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How can people deal with natural monopolies?
I understand here are situations where there is only room for 1 provider of something like when the investment is huge and there isn’t enough biz for more competitors. Fair enough but if this is a fact of life is their any way best to prevent an evil monopolist that will gouge prices and offer lousy service?

Innovation is always the best answer for this shit; a technology that makes it possible to compete without a huge investment will end the monopoly. Then low and behold the old guys won’t be sucking your blood anymore they will be alive and competing!

Waiting for the White Knight like this is great for the long run but it doesn’t change what everyone has to face right now.

There's an old solution for monopoly suppliers, Cooperatives. If a monopoly is owned by its users then the whole conflict between greed and utility just disappears. Cooperatives been around for farming since before my grandfather’s time I don’t know exactly how long but they were used to buy big tools and grain elevators that every farmer could share.

I buy my groceries from a co-op, much, much better products than the chain supermarket and good prices.

Yes if you organise you get some of the power of the cooperative just by virtue of having done it. I would think this is the best solution, to actually start the cooperative and keep an open ear to the monopolist, seeing if things can be settled at the earliest possible stage.

If the users organize a boycott it can force the monopolist into better behavior. Though it can be kind of ugly and tends to leave a bitter taste for both sides. A theatrical action before this could be a petition or media generation on social networks.

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The Catholic Church is a Force for Good in the World : IQ^2 Debate
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The Catholic Church is a Force for Good in the World : IQ^2 Debate
Fry and Hitchens take on the Archbishop and Tory MP

I was raised catholic and this is seriously the best joke I’ve read on this site lmao
Mass murder; centuries of child abuse, financial manipulation of countries and its peoples, stifling science for centuries, masses of lies and corruption, manipulating the world, controlling the weak minded, instilling a ridiculous morality onto its followers that only incites hatred and misery
The catholic churuch is just the greatest group of criminals to ever exist
God I’m so proud to be catholic 😂
Mass murder; centuries of child abuse, financial manipulation of countries and its peoples, stifling science for centuries, masses of lies and corruption, manipulating the world, controlling the weak minded, instilling a ridiculous morality onto its followers that only incites hatred and misery
The catholic churuch is just the greatest group of criminals to ever exist
God I’m so proud to be catholic 😂

You forgot to include wealthiest, if the Roman Catholic Church realised all it's assets then they could probably eradicate world poverty in a year

All Abrahamic religions are backwards and immoral, imo.
Christian god Genocided the whole planet to prove a point, and the Muslim Prophet, well, look up the age of Aisha when he married her.
We no longer need religion, its just a tool to distract and divide people.
Christian god Genocided the whole planet to prove a point, and the Muslim Prophet, well, look up the age of Aisha when he married her.
We no longer need religion, its just a tool to distract and divide people.

The Catholics needed a pedant on their side not a pendant. Taken literally this position gets a lot easier to defend.

All religions no matter what are just man made ideas and a collection of stories. Stories that were spoken often over a drink and made into whatever you made up round a fire. People needed controlling with a certain fear thousands of years ago and needed a divine leader. I'm uncomfortable with it all. It's all just made up. And to think it is the basis of all wars, man made ideology. Bad work I say

I'm not sure trying to peg any organisation as objectively good or bad is possible, but also fuck the Catholic Church and all they are.

laugh all you like but the basic philosophy of jesus is love and that is exactly what the world needs.

Yet his loudest followers scream at women at abortion clinics, promote violence towards gay people and basically act like 15th century bigots with torches
Doesn’t sound very loving to me, sounds more like a relationship with Ike Turner
Jesus spoke beautiful words but they’ve been twisted and manipulated to spread hate not love by the loudest “believers” as evidenced in every evil act done in the name of Jesus or Christianity
I’m gonna stick to worshipping the truest deity known to man- our lady and saviour MARY JANE 🤣
Doesn’t sound very loving to me, sounds more like a relationship with Ike Turner
Jesus spoke beautiful words but they’ve been twisted and manipulated to spread hate not love by the loudest “believers” as evidenced in every evil act done in the name of Jesus or Christianity
I’m gonna stick to worshipping the truest deity known to man- our lady and saviour MARY JANE 🤣

When have God fearers and followers of jesus christ ever attacked anyone, gay or straight?

God is not democratic or wavering in any way, its his way or the burning pits for eternity he mentions he is a jealous God and if you are two minded then you are not with him

Objectively for its merit orthadox Christianity seems like a good guide to me. The scope of practicing virtue and aiming to overcome vices and sin I can't really think of a more noble cause. I think it's definitely not for the feint hearted and seems we're in an age of hedonism with little to no solid, tangible spiritual values.
Living to a higher power or God has a drastic effect on people in the relms of recovery and elsewhere. I am coming to terms with it as it as a path over the self and see great oppertunity with aligning ones values for a greater purpose and in vitro achieving one's own potential while on this earth.
Living to a higher power or God has a drastic effect on people in the relms of recovery and elsewhere. I am coming to terms with it as it as a path over the self and see great oppertunity with aligning ones values for a greater purpose and in vitro achieving one's own potential while on this earth.

Probably the most original and though through answer. I myself know God exist but even if he didn't and I just thought he did, everything the bible teaches about morals and character has made me a better person and it does the same with anyone who follows the teachings of jesus christ. Jesus only had 12 disciples and it says in the bible following jesus will lead to ridicule and struggle. Earth is Satan's playground and we are vastly out numbered but when all returns to dust only almighty God will remain.
And saying the church and its various denominations are a true representation of God and all who follow is the same as saying jihadist and the taliban are a true representation of all Muslims and all who follows Islam.
And saying the church and its various denominations are a true representation of God and all who follow is the same as saying jihadist and the taliban are a true representation of all Muslims and all who follows Islam.

Jesus as philosopher is undeniably legit. And surely in touch with what humans can agree upon as holy (love).
Beyond that shit can get insulting, even offensive at times.
Beyond that shit can get insulting, even offensive at times.

Let's have a look at bit of history:
1) Reconquista of Spain - overcame the previous more liberal Islamic Al-Andalus. Explusion of Jews & Muslims
2) The cultural rape of the Americas - effectively extinguishing the native way of life
3) All of those European wars which were pretty much Catholics vs Prods (Prods as bad as Catholics in this case)
4) More recently - at a time of AIDs and other STDs saying use of condoms 'evil'.
5) Messing up the psyche of its followers by seeing sex as dirty
6) A great place to work as a preist if you don't like adult women and prefer to have sex with under age boys and girls.
1) Reconquista of Spain - overcame the previous more liberal Islamic Al-Andalus. Explusion of Jews & Muslims
2) The cultural rape of the Americas - effectively extinguishing the native way of life
3) All of those European wars which were pretty much Catholics vs Prods (Prods as bad as Catholics in this case)
4) More recently - at a time of AIDs and other STDs saying use of condoms 'evil'.
5) Messing up the psyche of its followers by seeing sex as dirty
6) A great place to work as a preist if you don't like adult women and prefer to have sex with under age boys and girls.

Boooom
If I were a smart man I’d have worded my reply this well haha
Love use of such modern issues caused by the church, generally people seem to think the evil they’ve done is centuries ago, but there’s so much in modern history; in living memory that prevents catholism from ever being objectively “good”
If I were a smart man I’d have worded my reply this well haha
Love use of such modern issues caused by the church, generally people seem to think the evil they’ve done is centuries ago, but there’s so much in modern history; in living memory that prevents catholism from ever being objectively “good”

I don't think I've ever heard or seen Widdicombe and not immediately wanted to scrape my eyes out and shove dynamite in my ears.
What a horrificly horrible and hateful person she is. Eugh
What a horrificly horrible and hateful person she is. Eugh

I don't like Anne Widdecombe at all, but from what I remember from this debate (I watched it a few years ago) she switched from Christianity to Catholoisim because of the amount of hypocrisy in the C of E.
Now don't even get me started on the hypocrisy in the Catholic Church, but I must admit I do somewhat sympathise with the point she was making.
You can't have a religion based upon a book that says "we don't agree with homosexuality" then just ignore that view because it's no longer popular.
It's like the Christian Church is now willing to ignore any of its doctrines just to remain "relevant", and get some likes on Twitter.
If you're going to be a bigoted religion, at least own it.
I'm not really into arguing about religion or politics, and I'm neither religious nor particularly political, but I do have to admit a begrudging respect for any religion that at least sticks by it's dogmatic roots, however ridiculous those roots are.
That's pretty much all I got from Widdicombe that was worth thinking about.
The rest of her nonsense....isn't worth anyone's time.
Cheers BB 😊👍🍻
Now don't even get me started on the hypocrisy in the Catholic Church, but I must admit I do somewhat sympathise with the point she was making.
You can't have a religion based upon a book that says "we don't agree with homosexuality" then just ignore that view because it's no longer popular.
It's like the Christian Church is now willing to ignore any of its doctrines just to remain "relevant", and get some likes on Twitter.
If you're going to be a bigoted religion, at least own it.
I'm not really into arguing about religion or politics, and I'm neither religious nor particularly political, but I do have to admit a begrudging respect for any religion that at least sticks by it's dogmatic roots, however ridiculous those roots are.
That's pretty much all I got from Widdicombe that was worth thinking about.
The rest of her nonsense....isn't worth anyone's time.
Cheers BB 😊👍🍻

All versions of Christianity ignore some parts of the bible because it's not popular. The Bible says not to wear two different types of fabric at once, and to sell your daughter to her rapist, but no Christians are abiding by that. They are all as bad as each other, to pretend like she's calling out hypocrisy by changing from one hateful religion to another is so deceitful, another part of the reason she is scum.

Dunno if you ever saw her debating with Stephen Fry and I think Chris Hitchins or possibly Jordan Peterson at Oxford? Between them they gave her the best fucking she's ever had

Didn't your mother ever teach you, if you have nothing good to say keep your mouth shut.

Im pretty sure that its impossible for anyone to create an image of god that is without its shadow, although i have much love for the doctrines of christ i do feel that perhaps the demons, antichrists etc are an artifact of the premise and not independently existent.

Already seen this you don't want to know my take as a Satanic/pagan Witch/warlock ... But i agree with stephen about most things. The part i can't stomach is that The church brag (Or used to) about their il educated followers from africa.. one reason why i returned to the ways of my old english ancestors.. in all things balance and respect for nature and our home.. Ave Lucifer the light bringer and Giver of knowlage .. Ave lilith mother of all witches and reflection of the black sun.

"Giver of knowlage..."
Well that all sounds pretty knowlagabel to me.
Were do I syne up?
Cheers BB 👌
Well that all sounds pretty knowlagabel to me.
Were do I syne up?
Cheers BB 👌

XD lucifer before the bible... In Roman folklore, Lucifer was the name of the planet Venus, Also worshiped as a wisdom god.

Is spelling and grammar not a part of "wisdom and knowledge?" (or knowlage)
You'd have thought the old Lucibubs would've at least armed you with a dictionary.
Anyway, each to their own. ❤️
Cheers BB 😊👍🍻
You'd have thought the old Lucibubs would've at least armed you with a dictionary.
Anyway, each to their own. ❤️
Cheers BB 😊👍🍻

this explans it better https://partiallyexaminedlife.com/2020/02/25/lucifer-how-a-decent-deity-got-a-bad-rap-part-1/ and i was never very good at eather of those i was always more creative. XD i'll be the first one to admit i can't spell and my grammer since the net has gone to pot ... XD

There's nothing wrong with having limited spelling and grammar buddy, but I struggle to understand why you would come on here claiming "wisdom and knowledge" given to you by some dark force when you can't even spell the words properly....
I know nothing about open heart surgery, so I'm not going to claim I have "specialism in the field" when it's very clear I don't.
Wisdom has nothing to do with education, but to claim you have wisdom AND knowledge, because you worship the devil...
Yet you can't even spell 'knowledge'...
Sorry. But that needed to be called out.
Spelling and grammar are nothing. Manners maketh the man.
All the best and like I say, each to their own just please don't claim to have superiority in wisdom and knowledge by worshiping anyone, least of all the devil and witches.
Cheers BB
I know nothing about open heart surgery, so I'm not going to claim I have "specialism in the field" when it's very clear I don't.
Wisdom has nothing to do with education, but to claim you have wisdom AND knowledge, because you worship the devil...
Yet you can't even spell 'knowledge'...
Sorry. But that needed to be called out.
Spelling and grammar are nothing. Manners maketh the man.
All the best and like I say, each to their own just please don't claim to have superiority in wisdom and knowledge by worshiping anyone, least of all the devil and witches.
Cheers BB

i don't worship any deity i work with them and i never claimed they gave me anything. the last part of what i said was just Veting or honouring the witch king and queen ( the male and female aspects of nature) i never claimed anything...

Fair enough buddy, sorry if I got the wrong end of the stick.
All the best ❤️
Cheers BB 😊
All the best ❤️
Cheers BB 😊

No problem BB also Keats and Einstein (sry for the spelling) couldn't spell so saying somone is not wise because they can't spell i feel is redundant. i guess what im trying to say even the dumbest of us can be wise. I mean even the dimist of sparks like myself still puts out a little light :)

Now you're making me feel bad. 😔 Sorry. I do post derogatory shit sometimes when I'm awake late.
You keep doing your thing buddy if it makes you happy.
Much love to you. ❤️
Cheers BB 😊🍻
You keep doing your thing buddy if it makes you happy.
Much love to you. ❤️
Cheers BB 😊🍻

same G we are not perfect only human after all eh ? :) And i will, I feel what ever faith or not anyone follows if it makes them a better person it can only be a good thing right ? ... i just feel some where along the path people started to use it for control and not to help and heal..

the word Devil means adversary... Rowling XD are you another one of those magic is the work of the devil hacks??

Just started watching 'Spaced' again.
I'm 40 now so it is my generation, but it's really good!
(yup showing my age)
It's on all4. Along with Peep Show (which yeah i like too!)
Don't judge me!
Haha
Cheers BB
I'm 40 now so it is my generation, but it's really good!
(yup showing my age)
It's on all4. Along with Peep Show (which yeah i like too!)
Don't judge me!
Haha
Cheers BB

I'm in the middle of re-watching Spaced and felt like I had to scroll for hours to find somebody who finally mentioned it! xD

Thank you - you just reminded me I need to re-watch spaced again!
I was too old for it even back then, but the clever references still tickle me all these years later..
I was too old for it even back then, but the clever references still tickle me all these years later..

Well I’ll judge you... if I could give 2 upvotes I would, agree with you totally, 2 of my fave ever shows, making me think of hitting Spaced up again...

Dark on Netflix. German show about time travel set in a village where kids keep going missing every 33 years. Stunning production values, really intricately plotted, three series, all ties together. Loved it. Has an English dub but the German audio with subtitles is best.

The Wire
The Ozark
Altered Carbon
Arrested Developement
People Just Do Nothing
Peep Show
Trailer Park Boys
Big Mouth
Fargo
Life On Mars
Dark Tourist
The Wolves Of Yellowstone
Utopia
It's Always Sunny In Philidelphia
Homeland
The Killing
Punisher
The End Of The Fucking World
This is what I can think of right now; definitely more to add. If anyone wants a little review/opinon or rundown on any of these shows let me know, more than happy. Also let me know what you're in the mood for, or usually like to watch and I can fire back with recommendations
The Ozark
Altered Carbon
Arrested Developement
People Just Do Nothing
Peep Show
Trailer Park Boys
Big Mouth
Fargo
Life On Mars
Dark Tourist
The Wolves Of Yellowstone
Utopia
It's Always Sunny In Philidelphia
Homeland
The Killing
Punisher
The End Of The Fucking World
This is what I can think of right now; definitely more to add. If anyone wants a little review/opinon or rundown on any of these shows let me know, more than happy. Also let me know what you're in the mood for, or usually like to watch and I can fire back with recommendations

Ah fuck it, nothing better to do, haha
The Wire - best thing ever written. Slow burner due to complication of story, but it is relatable as the war on drugs does not have a start or end to it, and street dealing doesn't just start, therefore you are immediately immersed in the story without even realising. Only figured that out the second time watching it. Also some great visual metaphors throughout. Also note there is no cue music to instigate feelings. All music is from source, i.e. car radio, night club. Only cue music is when Avon enters the lowrisers for the first time
The Ozark - Although breaking bad is good, it's not worth the hype. This is the older cooler brother of breaking bad. Calculated and intense at times. Story is always moving forward with real character progression
Altered Carbon - Absolutely fantastic sci-fi with great visuals and a great story line. Really left me itching to read the book, and I'm not a sci-fi fan
Arrested Development - Intelligent comedy with so much layered jokes you can watch this five times and still find punch lines you never noticed before
People Just Do Nothing - Threw this on not expecting much which is perhaps why I found it to be so good. Off the wall characters made completely believable by the actors playing the parts. Excellent idea, excellent execution.
Peep Show - This is a classic, you need to watch this
Trailer Park Boys - Another classic everyone here should be able to relate to
Big Mouth - Great for a background watch, but really funny and does take you back to your teenage years at times, haha
Fargo - Beautiful cinematography, great story captured very close to the original film. Billy Bob absolutely shines in this role in season one
Life On Mars - Made in early naughties, but just as relevant as today
Dark Tourist - good short run of a different kind of travel show. The kind of travel I like too
The Wolves Of Yellowstone - Nature documentary that has a story line Walt Disney would be proud of. Really makes you realise the balance of nature
Utopia - Such an underrated British TV series
It's Always Sunny In Philidelphia - Great zany show about dysfunctional friends who live in their own world, and drink in their own pub causing all kinds of ridiculous antics
Homeland - Great series that will always have you wondering what, or who is next
The Killing - Only recommend the first seasons. It drags you along on the witch hunt convincing you you know the answer
Punisher - About time they stuck to the gritty comic. Refreshing that this i not aimed at kids and fattening wallets.
The End Of The Fucking World - Two out there teens who decide to adventure together with, maybe, disastrous consequences
The Wire - best thing ever written. Slow burner due to complication of story, but it is relatable as the war on drugs does not have a start or end to it, and street dealing doesn't just start, therefore you are immediately immersed in the story without even realising. Only figured that out the second time watching it. Also some great visual metaphors throughout. Also note there is no cue music to instigate feelings. All music is from source, i.e. car radio, night club. Only cue music is when Avon enters the lowrisers for the first time
The Ozark - Although breaking bad is good, it's not worth the hype. This is the older cooler brother of breaking bad. Calculated and intense at times. Story is always moving forward with real character progression
Altered Carbon - Absolutely fantastic sci-fi with great visuals and a great story line. Really left me itching to read the book, and I'm not a sci-fi fan
Arrested Development - Intelligent comedy with so much layered jokes you can watch this five times and still find punch lines you never noticed before
People Just Do Nothing - Threw this on not expecting much which is perhaps why I found it to be so good. Off the wall characters made completely believable by the actors playing the parts. Excellent idea, excellent execution.
Peep Show - This is a classic, you need to watch this
Trailer Park Boys - Another classic everyone here should be able to relate to
Big Mouth - Great for a background watch, but really funny and does take you back to your teenage years at times, haha
Fargo - Beautiful cinematography, great story captured very close to the original film. Billy Bob absolutely shines in this role in season one
Life On Mars - Made in early naughties, but just as relevant as today
Dark Tourist - good short run of a different kind of travel show. The kind of travel I like too
The Wolves Of Yellowstone - Nature documentary that has a story line Walt Disney would be proud of. Really makes you realise the balance of nature
Utopia - Such an underrated British TV series
It's Always Sunny In Philidelphia - Great zany show about dysfunctional friends who live in their own world, and drink in their own pub causing all kinds of ridiculous antics
Homeland - Great series that will always have you wondering what, or who is next
The Killing - Only recommend the first seasons. It drags you along on the witch hunt convincing you you know the answer
Punisher - About time they stuck to the gritty comic. Refreshing that this i not aimed at kids and fattening wallets.
The End Of The Fucking World - Two out there teens who decide to adventure together with, maybe, disastrous consequences

Peep show one of my all time favs and can't to wrong with arrested development what a classic

Sad that they never manager to run the show normally... And probably we won't se another season ever :( love arrested development

Currently halfway through the first series of Altered Carbon after reading this thread and seeing your recommendation. I'm a PhilipKDick fan and I'm really enjoying it, cheers 👍

Oh my god its been years since I've watched utopia and now I'm all excited to dive into the twisted wacky world of 90's conspiracies that now seem quick mundane as they are basically happening now

End of the fucking world is really good. Strange and offbeat which I like. With some characters that don’t give a fuck. And it’s British and very relatable (even though it’s about a lad that thinks he’s a psychopath haha).

100% but do you think you could watch them the other way round and it’s all still as good? As I really do, integrated them amazingly well.

Yeah I agree, I liked BB a lot but I came to it a bit late and like UKgrower hearing the hype maybe expected too much. Better call Saul I didn’t expect much of at all, didn’t think it’d get past Series 1 but now I think it’s better than BB.

If you enjoyed Breaking Bad, then give Better Call Saul a go. I always thought he stole every scene he was in during Breaking Bad.

Literally just finished watching brassic 2 and Save me Too. Both class. Surely everyone on here has watched Brassic.....!!!?

I do, doesn't quite hit the levels that Shameless did back in the day but still a lot of fun. Plus it's good to hear actual accents on TV instead of just American lol

I'm watching Detectorists at the moment. Really good. Funny and with beautiful scenery. On BBC iPlayer and Netflix.

Shout for detectorists.
Great theme tune btw.
Excellent characters.
Great series about the sackler family’s and there murderous medical misbehaviour ( painkiller )
Starring ferris bueller.
Great theme tune btw.
Excellent characters.
Great series about the sackler family’s and there murderous medical misbehaviour ( painkiller )
Starring ferris bueller.

Some of the things I've enjoyed are:
The Boys
Vikings
100
Only fools and horses
Into the Badlands
Breaking Bad
Picard
Game of Thrones ( Except the last season which I found terrible )
Star Trek The next Generation - Deep Space Nine
Stargate Atlantis
Treadstone
The Boys
Vikings
100
Only fools and horses
Into the Badlands
Breaking Bad
Picard
Game of Thrones ( Except the last season which I found terrible )
Star Trek The next Generation - Deep Space Nine
Stargate Atlantis
Treadstone

*The Queen's Gambit- short series (one season only) but good storyline
*Lie To Me
*The Mentalist
*Sherlock
*Lie To Me
*The Mentalist
*Sherlock

What would you say is the closest or better than queens gambit, i really enjoyed it and it was so different to anything i normally watch (drug/crime/violence) - I love that series so much.

Orphan black! one of my favourites.. the wire.. Russian doll..cynical,funny. end of the fucking world. Money heist.. prison break..cleverly written. Better call Saul if you enjoyed breaking bad.
Rick and Morty and weed is my favourite combination. Snoop dog’s talk show on YouTube is hilarious to watch as-well.
I find American horror story hilarious, but only when I’m high, otherwise it’s pretty terrifying lol.
Films : seven psychopaths is a must watch, requiem for a dream and pulp fiction, all time faves. and I did write a detailed review and much more but it was deleted :/
Rick and Morty and weed is my favourite combination. Snoop dog’s talk show on YouTube is hilarious to watch as-well.
I find American horror story hilarious, but only when I’m high, otherwise it’s pretty terrifying lol.
Films : seven psychopaths is a must watch, requiem for a dream and pulp fiction, all time faves. and I did write a detailed review and much more but it was deleted :/

If you want a Change and a Tons of one line bombs to drop at work or with your mates there is only one place to go
"Letter Kenny" it will almost make you want to live there
10ply/Sally/Hard No and Bonny McMurryyyyyyyyyyyyyy
And if you want some of the best swearing on telly "The Thick of IT" / In The Loop
You will never watch a MP without Laughing again The Thick of it is almost a Documatary
Malcom Tucker is a
Best name calling every "Fuckbob Shitpants"
Sorry about the spelling
I am just dislexick @is there a strain that will help with this???
"Letter Kenny" it will almost make you want to live there
10ply/Sally/Hard No and Bonny McMurryyyyyyyyyyyyyy
And if you want some of the best swearing on telly "The Thick of IT" / In The Loop
You will never watch a MP without Laughing again The Thick of it is almost a Documatary
Malcom Tucker is a
Best name calling every "Fuckbob Shitpants"
Sorry about the spelling
I am just dislexick @is there a strain that will help with this???

yes, they will all help make it worse. on the bright side, since everybody started typing on their phones, dyslexia is hardly noticeable anymore and you really don't have to apologise.

Gomorrah if you dont mind subtitles, its an Italian crime show set in Naples. Simply brilliant.
Murphys law
Stargate universe, SG1, Atlantis
Firefly
The Expanse
Oz
Banshee
Person of interest
The shield
Hetty Wainthropp investigates
Murphys law
Stargate universe, SG1, Atlantis
Firefly
The Expanse
Oz
Banshee
Person of interest
The shield
Hetty Wainthropp investigates

Gomorrah is the shit man, one of my all time favs
Oz is a downer but an awesome show
Ozark
Better call Saul
The wire
Boardwalk empire
Sopranos
Just watched Gangs of London which was banging
Chernobyl was a masterpiece
Oz is a downer but an awesome show
Ozark
Better call Saul
The wire
Boardwalk empire
Sopranos
Just watched Gangs of London which was banging
Chernobyl was a masterpiece

Yean Gomorrah is probably my number 1 show, the setting, actors, story... superb. Cant wait to watch the Ciro Di Marzio movie too.

L'Immortale or the Immortal is the name, was out last year in Italy. Have tried to find out when its out in the UK but no joy yet

Its on sky atlantic now mate, its certainly worth a watch an sets up the next season of Gomorrah nicely

If you like weird? Get baked & watch.
Channel 4
Garth marenghi's dark place ;-)
Robot chicken
Shivering truth
Father ted
The IT crowd
One foot in the grave
What we do in the shadows. Watch the film first.
Sandman - netflix
Red dwarf
Fast show
Inside no 9
The young offenders
The boys
15 stories high - sean lock's first tv series. on youtube but low quality.
Band of brothers
Chernobyl
Firefly
Curb your enthusiasm
Fawlty towers
Black adder
Black mirror
Dexter
Channel 4
Garth marenghi's dark place ;-)
Robot chicken
Shivering truth
Father ted
The IT crowd
One foot in the grave
What we do in the shadows. Watch the film first.
Sandman - netflix
Red dwarf
Fast show
Inside no 9
The young offenders
The boys
15 stories high - sean lock's first tv series. on youtube but low quality.
Band of brothers
Chernobyl
Firefly
Curb your enthusiasm
Fawlty towers
Black adder
Black mirror
Dexter

Respect for Garth Merenghi, everybody should see that.
On that note, throw Mighty Boosh into the mix as well.
Big Train to round off a trio of lesser-known, top quality British comedies.
On that note, throw Mighty Boosh into the mix as well.
Big Train to round off a trio of lesser-known, top quality British comedies.

Ifyou seen BB, definitely watch Better Call Saul.
Comedy? The Office US and then Parks n Recreation. Or maybe Shameless US? Little Britain it's always great company.
If you seen Broadwalk E, you probably have seen the sopranos. If not its a MUST! Ive been watching House of Cards and it's quite nice too.
Maybe 6 feet under, Weeds, Dexter, Chuck, My name it's Earl??
Cience? COSMOS!!! A mind blowing and mind opening cience series. Everyone should watch it before they die. Either the original and first with Carl Sagan (it might not have the best visual representations but Carl its Carl) or the new Neil Tyson.
In to some stand ups? George Carlin is a must, the young Carlin to the old political Carlin.
I would also like to give a shout out to my Spanish Fellows on THE Money Heist.
Comedy? The Office US and then Parks n Recreation. Or maybe Shameless US? Little Britain it's always great company.
If you seen Broadwalk E, you probably have seen the sopranos. If not its a MUST! Ive been watching House of Cards and it's quite nice too.
Maybe 6 feet under, Weeds, Dexter, Chuck, My name it's Earl??
Cience? COSMOS!!! A mind blowing and mind opening cience series. Everyone should watch it before they die. Either the original and first with Carl Sagan (it might not have the best visual representations but Carl its Carl) or the new Neil Tyson.
In to some stand ups? George Carlin is a must, the young Carlin to the old political Carlin.
I would also like to give a shout out to my Spanish Fellows on THE Money Heist.

Yo UK Grower. I have just discovered Channel Zero on StarZplay, prime add on. It’s a really good horror series, twisted stuff, defo a bit freaky.

To any one who likes comedies don't be put off What We Do in the Shadows, it's vampires but it's not really a "vampire" type show.... it's really funny when high and the second series has just come out on iplayer.

If you're into Sci-fi I'd highly recommend Altered Carbon on Netflix. Really cool story and visuals. I seen somebody recommended Ozark, excellent as well. If you like animation and feel like a laugh give Rick and Morty a watch, The Midnight Gospel is also new to Netflix but really trippy / funny in my opinion. Happy watching!

Have you ever watched Travellers? (if you was a fan of stargate back in the day this will interest you) or if your a sci fi fan, Very good story telling and actors (Canadian)

i liked that a lot more than i thought i would. also, colony on netflix even though it was killed by covid and never finished.

I almost pissed myself with laughter watching the first episode as I watched the trailer but wasn't really for how out there this really is. A must watch for any sci fi and gaming fan or if you have a sick sense of humour like me :)

Stranger Things Season 1 - 80's themed sci-fi thriller with endearing characters that had me on the edge of my seat throughout.
True Detective Season 1 - Basically an 8 hour movie that oozes quality. Pacing/cinematography/acting/dialogue are all A++ for me.
Trailer Park Boys - Get baked, watch this, laugh your arse off.
Peep Show - Clever and hilarious.
True Detective Season 1 - Basically an 8 hour movie that oozes quality. Pacing/cinematography/acting/dialogue are all A++ for me.
Trailer Park Boys - Get baked, watch this, laugh your arse off.
Peep Show - Clever and hilarious.

Band of Brothers is a masterpiece, great shout! Any recommendations of war films/series that are similar mate?

Give 'The Pacific' a go. Its HBOs follow up to 'Band Of Brothers' set during the allied assault on the Pacific region during WW2

Trailer Park Boys should be perfect for everyone on here, given the enormous amount of smoking and growing throughout!

Since it hasn’t been mentioned here , it only proves how massively underrated Wilfred is . Had great laughs :) U.S. version of an Australian cult sitcom about a meek young man and a pot-smoking talking dog named Wilfred (actually actor Jason Gann in a dog suit, whom everyone else sees as just a dog). Won’t spoilt it anymore

Gotta be Trailer Park Boys
(still on Netflix atm)
The American office is a good
watch too with many eps
(still on Netflix atm)
The American office is a good
watch too with many eps

The Christmas special of Mortimer and Whitehouse Gone Fishing done in THE most beautiful part of the country North Yorkshire! Great watch when baked as fuck haha :)
The Grand Tour is back as well for anyone in to that, done to death obviously but atleast it's something new to watch lol
The Grand Tour is back as well for anyone in to that, done to death obviously but atleast it's something new to watch lol

If you liked Breaking Bad you might like Better Call Saul... it's slower but the writing and cinematography are actually better imo. Plus by S5 the pace is basically on BB levels.

The Boys or Doom patrol, quality shows right there & the wire If you didnt see it yet,too many to name mate but try them

Undone is good and trippy with the animation style it uses and pretty unique story to boot.
You (season 1). Solid watch but latest series was a waste of time.
You (season 1). Solid watch but latest series was a waste of time.

Fringe is my favorite series of all time!
12 monkeys
Weeds
Already mentioned but some of my favorites -
Westworld, The Magicians, altered carbon & Vikings
With everyones suggestions should keep you going for a couple of lockdowns
12 monkeys
Weeds
Already mentioned but some of my favorites -
Westworld, The Magicians, altered carbon & Vikings
With everyones suggestions should keep you going for a couple of lockdowns

Get the amazon Prime free trial and watch Picard, star trek spin off - it's really good, not what you expect.

also i love disco/history/natgeo... skin walker ranch program on at the mo is interesting. history but avail on catchup bro

Dunno if these have been broached, but try some Aussie drama
Pine Gap
Underbelly
The Magician / Mr Inbetween
All great watches but Mr Inbetween tells the story of your everyday underworld enforcer. Ive watched it in full 3 times and regularly watch YouTube clips. Never has the word run hit so hard
Pine Gap
Underbelly
The Magician / Mr Inbetween
All great watches but Mr Inbetween tells the story of your everyday underworld enforcer. Ive watched it in full 3 times and regularly watch YouTube clips. Never has the word run hit so hard

Watching Yellowjackets at the moment, pretty good but if you watch the pilot episode don’t be put off as that’s a bit shit, it does get better!
Watched “From” before that, that was pretty good too…
Watched “From” before that, that was pretty good too…

The Start Up, it's on Netflix. 2 series' that I've thoroughly enjoyed. Defo worth a watch!

Devs.
New Alex Garland (Ex Machina) series on FX & Hulu in the states, not sure where in the UK. Totally brilliant, and the best cinematography I've seen on TV. Ran here in spring 2020 and I'm still thinking about it.
New Alex Garland (Ex Machina) series on FX & Hulu in the states, not sure where in the UK. Totally brilliant, and the best cinematography I've seen on TV. Ran here in spring 2020 and I'm still thinking about it.

just call Saul was better than breaking bad in some ways (last series a bit disappointing tho). Always interested to see if people liked the Midnight Gospel (single series, animation, also Netflix).

The Sopranos, the Wire, The Americans (best ending), boss season 1, the Divide 2014 (hard to find but worth it), true detective 4, xfiles season 4.

I just rewatched 'The Lost Room'
It's a miniseries with 3 90min episodes and it only ever had one proper airing so nobody I've ever mentioned it to has seen it.
Definitely worth a watch though💜💚👊🏻
It's a miniseries with 3 90min episodes and it only ever had one proper airing so nobody I've ever mentioned it to has seen it.
Definitely worth a watch though💜💚👊🏻

Trying to go for some semi-obscure ones here....
Burn notice
We own this city (from the same guy who did the wire)
Tokyo vice
Spartacus blood and sand (all 4 seasons)
Final space
Primal
Goblin slayer (not an anime fan but love this)
15 Storeys high
Burn notice
We own this city (from the same guy who did the wire)
Tokyo vice
Spartacus blood and sand (all 4 seasons)
Final space
Primal
Goblin slayer (not an anime fan but love this)
15 Storeys high

If no one has said it yet, Banshee. A pro thief / seriously tough guy played by Anthony Starr ( Homelander from the boys) rolls into town, assumes the identity of a recently deceased new Sheriff that no one has met yet. Boom, he's now the law in town and is actually very good at stopping crime. Insane realistic violence, Amish gangsters, bikers, native American mafia and lots more, best show I've ever seen

Hi Biggas TEAM
New to here and to the community. Good to meet you all!
Shows to have a watch by me ->
- Suburra
- ZeroZeroZero
- Cocaine Coast
- Narcos
- El Chapo
- Gomorrah
- Ozark
- Top Boy
- McMafia
- Undercover
- Kin ( Really enjoyed that one )
- Quicksand
- Snabba Cash
- Mayor of Kingstown
- Ripley
- Unauthorized Living
- Ganglands
- The Gentlemen
- Mindhunter
- The Fall
- Bodies
- The Sinner
- Criminal: UK
- Hache
Who ever will be watching... just enjoy it.
New to here and to the community. Good to meet you all!
Shows to have a watch by me ->
- Suburra
- ZeroZeroZero
- Cocaine Coast
- Narcos
- El Chapo
- Gomorrah
- Ozark
- Top Boy
- McMafia
- Undercover
- Kin ( Really enjoyed that one )
- Quicksand
- Snabba Cash
- Mayor of Kingstown
- Ripley
- Unauthorized Living
- Ganglands
- The Gentlemen
- Mindhunter
- The Fall
- Bodies
- The Sinner
- Criminal: UK
- Hache
Who ever will be watching... just enjoy it.

On the The Block - Netflix - nice teen vibe and story
Archive 81 - Netflix stranger things vibe , synthwave , 80s , VHs Vibe - captivating story , mysterious
Archive 81 - Netflix stranger things vibe , synthwave , 80s , VHs Vibe - captivating story , mysterious

Brand New Cherry Flavour if you think you'd find the subject of psychedelic sorcery played out as a fictional horror story interesting

Often overlooked, but Mike Judge of Beavis and Butthead fame created this absolute gem....highly reccomend...as smart as it is funny...

15/7.
You could try black mirror.
A selection of engrossing stories some weird and some mind blowing.. spanning 6 seasons between 4 n 6 eps each.
Can’t remember all but loch Henry and demon 79 were fck brilliant from the last season. 🌬️🍀
You could try black mirror.
A selection of engrossing stories some weird and some mind blowing.. spanning 6 seasons between 4 n 6 eps each.
Can’t remember all but loch Henry and demon 79 were fck brilliant from the last season. 🌬️🍀

Ozark
Slow Horses
I-land
Blacklist
Upload
Code 404
Line of Duty
Bosch Legacy
Hanna
Prison Break
Suits
The Capture
Brassic
Hightown
White Lines
Better Call Saul
Power
Weeds
Slow Horses
I-land
Blacklist
Upload
Code 404
Line of Duty
Bosch Legacy
Hanna
Prison Break
Suits
The Capture
Brassic
Hightown
White Lines
Better Call Saul
Power
Weeds

Person of Interest
Jim cavisal and Micheal Emerson proper dark series about artificial intelligence a must watch
Jim cavisal and Micheal Emerson proper dark series about artificial intelligence a must watch

I'm surprised no one suggested Family Business (on Netflix). A great comedy series about a family in Paris who runs a Kosher butchers and end up producing vast amounts of Pastraweed!
Really funny, great actors and all around fun to watch.
A French Breaking Bad without all the stress in a way!
Really funny, great actors and all around fun to watch.
A French Breaking Bad without all the stress in a way!

I never thought I'd see someone mention The Platform. Great film if you've got your stone on! Alice in Borderland is brilliant also it's like a mash-up of The Prisoner and Battle Royale.

I know this is a bit of old news but have you seen Schitts Creek? I just discovered it and it is so funny

Devs
Norsemen
Treadstone
The Expanse
Mindhunter
Watchmen
Badlands (or enter the badlands)
Norsemen
Treadstone
The Expanse
Mindhunter
Watchmen
Badlands (or enter the badlands)

The Man in the High Castle is loads of fun, especially if you’re a fan of PKD. Classic UK series that are great: Line of Duty, The Fall, Peep Show, Monty Python’s Flying Circus

Succession is better than you'd think. Punisher is the best out of all the Marvel shows, Daredevil is also very watchable (and Jessica Jones if you're into angry women with PTSD). Umbrella Academy is fun to watch. The Magicians ditto. Also The Boys.

One of my all-time favourites will always be Daria.
I just love that sassy, sarcastic, little oddball in her socially satire highschool world. Sometimes it hits close to home.
Hoops on Netflix is also worth one or two laughs.
Tuca & Berti is also the right amount of strange.
Our Planet is a great background noise, a lot of beautiful scenery overviews.
Not in Netflix, but how about the Kurzgesagt YouTube channel. It's funny, educational, soothing commentary,cute Art style a great variety of topics etc.
I just love that sassy, sarcastic, little oddball in her socially satire highschool world. Sometimes it hits close to home.
Hoops on Netflix is also worth one or two laughs.
Tuca & Berti is also the right amount of strange.
Our Planet is a great background noise, a lot of beautiful scenery overviews.
Not in Netflix, but how about the Kurzgesagt YouTube channel. It's funny, educational, soothing commentary,cute Art style a great variety of topics etc.

Firefly
Battlestar Galactica ( the remake )
Parks and Rec ( but you have to tough out the first two seasons)
West world
Stranger Things
OA
Battlestar Galactica ( the remake )
Parks and Rec ( but you have to tough out the first two seasons)
West world
Stranger Things
OA

Ahh man the OA was fucking amazing, completely different to what I thought it'd be. Can't believe they aren't renewing it!

Hey man some good series I watched recently was:
The Originals
Vikings
Battle star galactica (the remake series)
The man in the high castle
The Magicians
Got a load more but too stoned to list!!!
Hope that helps a little 8)
The Originals
Vikings
Battle star galactica (the remake series)
The man in the high castle
The Magicians
Got a load more but too stoned to list!!!
Hope that helps a little 8)

Blake's 7
On the buses
3rd rock from the sun
It ain't half hot mum
Curry and chips
And my favourite Till death us do part
Them last 3 May not be very PC but still good stuff.
On the buses
3rd rock from the sun
It ain't half hot mum
Curry and chips
And my favourite Till death us do part
Them last 3 May not be very PC but still good stuff.

Black Monday , so off key guaranteed hard core laughing
Legit , so not pc. Jim Jeffries stars
Black Jesus , stonehead Jesus extremely funny
Legit , so not pc. Jim Jeffries stars
Black Jesus , stonehead Jesus extremely funny

Bobs burgers is a laugh when baked
El chapo if you can be bothered reading subs
SWAT
Gangs of London
Sons of anarchy
Mr Pickles - YouTube it
El chapo if you can be bothered reading subs
SWAT
Gangs of London
Sons of anarchy
Mr Pickles - YouTube it

Lots of good suggestions & Sopranos is also great. If you have Netflix then Orange Is The New Black is available & also Weeds from the same writer; both a bit different... ;-)

Braindead (2016)
A government employee learns that the cause for the disputes between two political parties is the insects which are eating their brains.
get ready to laugh
A government employee learns that the cause for the disputes between two political parties is the insects which are eating their brains.
get ready to laugh

Surprised no one’s mentioned Snowfall.
One of the best series imo.
And it’s free to watch on bbc iplayer
One of the best series imo.
And it’s free to watch on bbc iplayer

Loads of top shows already mentioned on this list so trying not to repeat(can't stand repeats). Didn't notice a mention for The Newsroom, absolutely brilliant with super slick dialogue, maybe stick to sativa for that one.
Also the classic stoner sit coms Top Buzzer starring a young Steven Graham and Ideal with Jonny Vegas, they will do for the indica night.
Once the hash and concentrates come out just put Taskmaster on it is the best thing c4 have done for a long time and requires zero brain power to enjoy perfect couch lock fodder
Also the classic stoner sit coms Top Buzzer starring a young Steven Graham and Ideal with Jonny Vegas, they will do for the indica night.
Once the hash and concentrates come out just put Taskmaster on it is the best thing c4 have done for a long time and requires zero brain power to enjoy perfect couch lock fodder

Fargo is probably the best series ever after GOT. Better Call Saul was brilliant too after a slow start. Better than Breaking Bad for me.

All the seasons are good and different stories so don't need to watch in order. All true apparently. The movie's a bit dated now but a great watch too.

Murder Mountain on Netflix. An oldie but a goodie. All about the emerald triangle in California and how it moved from illegal weed growing into legalisation and the lawless nature of the industry.

New British comedy horror on prime with Simon Pegg and nick frost, only a short one but was enjoyable, there’s this once scene when nick frost thinks he is about to get shanked and it’s hilarious.
It’s called Truth Seekers
It’s called Truth Seekers

Dubbed films used to drive me crackers but given that or the bbc I choose ‘ European crime series’s’
Seem to have them in every country and to be fair they are done well.
Seem to have them in every country and to be fair they are done well.

Truly terrible. Shows how much Pitt & Jolie were needed to make that story work. These two are deathly dull!

Dirk gentleys hollistic detective agency.
Brand new cherry flavor.
Lillehammer.
All on Netflix 👌🏻
Brand new cherry flavor.
Lillehammer.
All on Netflix 👌🏻

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some famous fails for sure but what are the success stories they dont tell us about?

German Peasant's War (where the word communism derives), Paris Commune, two Russian revolutions minus the Bolsheviks, Makhnochina, Spanish revolution, German revolution, May 68, etc. etc. etc.
Losing in the first half don't mean the game's over.
Losing in the first half don't mean the game's over.

I don't think Communism has ever worked as Capitalists are always creaming off the top.
A great book on the subject is Eat The Rich by the US satirist (and huge drug consumer) P.J. O'Rourke. I think his and my politics are probably polar opposites, but you could get fucked up at a party with him and have an amazing time. Anyway, good book. Breaks down all sorts of different political stances, and Good Communism is one chapter, and Bad Communism another. He's a funny guy, but maybe don't consider it as in depth reasoned academic analysis.
Ah, fuck. He died in 2022. No future parties.
A great book on the subject is Eat The Rich by the US satirist (and huge drug consumer) P.J. O'Rourke. I think his and my politics are probably polar opposites, but you could get fucked up at a party with him and have an amazing time. Anyway, good book. Breaks down all sorts of different political stances, and Good Communism is one chapter, and Bad Communism another. He's a funny guy, but maybe don't consider it as in depth reasoned academic analysis.
Ah, fuck. He died in 2022. No future parties.

Come on down voters give me a success story if you don't like the truth?? Bloody Marxists never except that it doesn't work. What ever iteration you can think of it WONT WORK!!!! everyone being the same sucks the fun out of life accept that hard work pays!

I'm not advocating for Communism but our society is full of people grafting their respective genitalia off that are still struggling financially. The idea that hard work pays ( properly) is a idea propagated by people seeking to exploit the labour of others. Nobody should need to claim benefits whilst working full time and yet...
Fwiw, I do advocate for a mixed economy. Nationalised energy, health, water, public transport etc and luxuries at the will of the free market.
Fwiw, I do advocate for a mixed economy. Nationalised energy, health, water, public transport etc and luxuries at the will of the free market.

You shouldn't be allowed to claim any benefits while in full time employment. It's crazy, we are basically subsidising employers who ought to be paying more.

And I hope that, one day, employers decide paying a living wage is more important than ever increasing profits such that in work benefits are no longer necessary. I propose a link between maximum and minimum pay within an organisation. Let's say; no pay ( overall package including bonuses, perks and dividends) higher than 5x the lowest full time salary.

it wouldn't even have to be a regulation, the government does business with so many companies and beneficiaries. if they don't have these multiples in place no people's funds.

employers don't make that call so much as owners do and when the owner is the stock market it's quite blind to anything but profits.
when the owners are the employees this changes priorities.
when the owners are the employees this changes priorities.

Exactly this - capitalism needs the grafters, the hardworking cogs to keep coming in to replace those that fall off or fall through the cracks.

"that hard work pays" is often true and the capitalists don't only pontificate this to the masses they teach it to their children. children they practise communism with.

You should look into some unbiased reporting on the soviet Union, and some witness statements from the older generation who lived through it.
You will find that many of them tell you life was better in the USSR, than in post USSR Eastern Europe and Russia. Besides that they were several decades ahead of the west on womens rights and social services.
But like anything good, the Americans bring it down from the inside, or out, USSR, Great Britain, either way. Their media controls the narritive, and communism effects their ability to steal all the money. There is a reason Cinema is oversaturated with anti Communist rhetoric.
I'd honestly rather have the worst communist government, than be America number 2.
You will find that many of them tell you life was better in the USSR, than in post USSR Eastern Europe and Russia. Besides that they were several decades ahead of the west on womens rights and social services.
But like anything good, the Americans bring it down from the inside, or out, USSR, Great Britain, either way. Their media controls the narritive, and communism effects their ability to steal all the money. There is a reason Cinema is oversaturated with anti Communist rhetoric.
I'd honestly rather have the worst communist government, than be America number 2.

i'd settle for being ireland number 0.5 :)
they currently have more than double the uk's gdp per capita
they currently have more than double the uk's gdp per capita

Yeah and east germany was the most successful communist country of all, just ask anyone that wasn't killed trying to leave.

Have you ever listened to Konstantin Kisin? A Jewish family - He moved when he was 9 from the ussr to England at the end of the soviet Union just before the fall. His first hand account of his own life tells a very different story to what you describe.

The communists on this thread think KK first hand account of late soviet communism is invalid for some reason.
I suspect many of them have never listened to a reasonable, adult centrist common sense. Perhaps it is not synonymous with the cult like adherence to social, political orthodoxy that would like to see nebulous victimhood everywhere.
I suspect many of them have never listened to a reasonable, adult centrist common sense. Perhaps it is not synonymous with the cult like adherence to social, political orthodoxy that would like to see nebulous victimhood everywhere.

I’m sure there are loads they just don’t teach us about them. Capitalism doesn’t work either does it? Too many greedy pocket filling bastards. We are all the same having money doesn’t make you better than anyone else, the fact you are here spouting this shows what a sad state the world is in 😞

under capitalism hard work has never paid and never will pay lmfao. communism actually prioritises labour, capitalism is about fat pigs at the top skimming off 99% of the profit we produce for them. do you not find it utterly insane tesco has like 5 different in-house brands with varying prices for essentially the same product? or that having less money means you have to settle for lower quality products that are worse for you and spoil faster?

So, you don't think lifting 4/5ths of the world out of relative poverty can be considered "paying off"?
OK Che, communism good 🤣👌
OK Che, communism good 🤣👌

do you have a source for this? not trying to challenge so much as i would like to learn more about it. maybe there is even a way the community could help.

food for the hungry is legit and accepts crypto

there are community outreach programs and obviously government funded systems like food banks to help, but the crisis only really exists because the capitalist system is designed that way. we have the resources to end world hunger but it's not economically beneficial so it will never happen
these are sources on food insecurity in the uk for 2023 and 2024:
https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-9209/
https://foodfoundation.org.uk/initiatives/food-insecurity-tracking#tabs/Round-15
these are sources on food insecurity in the uk for 2023 and 2024:
https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-9209/
https://foodfoundation.org.uk/initiatives/food-insecurity-tracking#tabs/Round-15

Does the existence of those children make anything I said less true?
Strawman though. I didn't make a claim that there is no poverty in any country. I think you missed the qualifiers "relative" and "4/5ths" of the world.
I would say, that "starving" inarguably applies to way less than 1 in 5 children in the UK, US or anywhere in the West which makes your point about the ills of capitalism fairly moot in context.
I am no fan of cronyism, and I don't think capitalism is utopia, but it's insane to try and persuade anybody that communism would do better than this.
Thanks for the downvotes. I have over a thousand upvotes and less than 30 down.
Drop me a line next time you are tipping your bathwater into the atalantic. I'll do it too 🤣
Strawman though. I didn't make a claim that there is no poverty in any country. I think you missed the qualifiers "relative" and "4/5ths" of the world.
I would say, that "starving" inarguably applies to way less than 1 in 5 children in the UK, US or anywhere in the West which makes your point about the ills of capitalism fairly moot in context.
I am no fan of cronyism, and I don't think capitalism is utopia, but it's insane to try and persuade anybody that communism would do better than this.
Thanks for the downvotes. I have over a thousand upvotes and less than 30 down.
Drop me a line next time you are tipping your bathwater into the atalantic. I'll do it too 🤣

"I have over a thousand upvotes and less than 30 down"
This is one of the saddest things I've ever read on the internet xD
This is one of the saddest things I've ever read on the internet xD

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You stop your quotations at an expedient place. If you would have been less disingenuous about your framing, you would be honest about the fact that the reason I said it was to point out that the users who's position I criticised (fairly and civilly) had no reply apart from the futile downvotes, as I was describing.
If I was trying to persuade anybody of anything about me with only what you have entered in your own quotation marks as the context then I'd tend to agree with you. Given that you have totally taken it out of the context it was said (I mean it was clear the previous person was making downvotes vexatiously, in place of an actual cogent argument against what I was saying.
I think you probably know that, but don't care because you disagree with me 🤣 how about tackle me with some argumental substance rather than downvotes.
So, yeah, moot point. Wind your neck in mush.
If I was trying to persuade anybody of anything about me with only what you have entered in your own quotation marks as the context then I'd tend to agree with you. Given that you have totally taken it out of the context it was said (I mean it was clear the previous person was making downvotes vexatiously, in place of an actual cogent argument against what I was saying.
I think you probably know that, but don't care because you disagree with me 🤣 how about tackle me with some argumental substance rather than downvotes.
So, yeah, moot point. Wind your neck in mush.

Ah, the Lords prayer of the troll world.
In other words, you have nothing worth saying because you are too vacuous to argue your way out of the little communist hole you dug 🤣
Thick.
In other words, you have nothing worth saying because you are too vacuous to argue your way out of the little communist hole you dug 🤣
Thick.

Do you mean the actual communists who don't want to respond to fair and cogent points about their lack of reasoning?

Hey man, great discussion, and I'm no authority but I had to retort to your 'hard work pays' comment: I have to disagree, hard work doesn't pay - call me whatever but nurses, teachers, delivery drivers, anyone in public service, works their asses off for little pay and much abuse from all sides.
We exist in Capitalism and while hard work and 'hustle' works for a short period for a small number, hard work is not a critical proponent of Capitalism, that's increasingly evident, imo.
We exist in Capitalism and while hard work and 'hustle' works for a short period for a small number, hard work is not a critical proponent of Capitalism, that's increasingly evident, imo.

Nice alt greenbeans/cherry cola. I can't believe you are actually calling other people schizo and creating multiple accounts to appear to support yourself 🤣

you are a literal schizo, my comment was just insulting you for being a pathetic redditor bragging about 1000 upvotes ,never mentioned politics, this guys actually responding with points and now you dont respond because you schizophrenically think im him. 😂😂😂
hilarious thanks for proving your sanity
hilarious thanks for proving your sanity

You didn't respond with any political talk aside from your comment about reddit that makes NO sense. Yes, you really didn't. But you did downvote every comment I made on this thread within a minute when you appeared on it before we had any interaction. Just as restricted account Tiger man did 🤣

you bragged about having 1000 upvotes which is pathetic redditor behaviour 😂 not that difficult to figure out as long as you arent an obsessed psychotic responding 5 times to a little comment, oh wait 😂😂😂

I'm actually really surprised that you are hating on reddit. There are so many commies on there that want everybody else to do the hard work for them. Sounds up your street.

I came here to say this. Glad someone else knows what's going on.
It's gradual. Socialism is the route to communism. The NHS, which we are all trained from an early age to worship, was one of the first big steps in socialism. Benefits too.
Do you all remember when Richard Madeley of all people called out Susan Michie for being a member of the Communist party? She was a main player in the 'behaviour science' part of the scamdemic. Do you remember how we were all pressured into performing that awful clap for the NHS gesture? That was like something out of North Korea/China, where citizens are softly compelled into worshipping the state - like those obvious crocodile tears that were shed over Kim of N Korea.
Ugh, most people are too close to it to see it but it is ABUNDANTLY clear.
I would recommend anyone to watch Yuri Bezmenovs lecture on how the west gets subverted to Communism. He was a soviet defector who used to subvert countries and bring them into the soviet fold for a living.
It's gradual. Socialism is the route to communism. The NHS, which we are all trained from an early age to worship, was one of the first big steps in socialism. Benefits too.
Do you all remember when Richard Madeley of all people called out Susan Michie for being a member of the Communist party? She was a main player in the 'behaviour science' part of the scamdemic. Do you remember how we were all pressured into performing that awful clap for the NHS gesture? That was like something out of North Korea/China, where citizens are softly compelled into worshipping the state - like those obvious crocodile tears that were shed over Kim of N Korea.
Ugh, most people are too close to it to see it but it is ABUNDANTLY clear.
I would recommend anyone to watch Yuri Bezmenovs lecture on how the west gets subverted to Communism. He was a soviet defector who used to subvert countries and bring them into the soviet fold for a living.

@Chambertin4 I wish we lived in the world you think we live in xD
The rich people who own the media want to push an ideology that stops them being able to hoarde all the wealth? care to explain how that makes sense?
The rich people who own the media want to push an ideology that stops them being able to hoarde all the wealth? care to explain how that makes sense?

I don't think you'll find any. They've tried it and hundreds of millions died. Ok in principle but man's greed quickly takes over.

yeah it's the trickery of it from the knowers side and the sheer gullibility from the mark.
"From each according to his ability, to each according to his need"
To the naive person, this quote from Marx sounds like everyone will just pull their own weight for others and everyones needs will be met.
But with the benefit of hindsight, it is clearly a recipe for slave labour/the gulag system where each man is worked to his utmost but only has his basic needs met. Pretty clear with the benefit of hindsight.
There are no luxuries. Worked to the max, as much as your body can stand and in return you are provided a concrete bed, thin blanket and bowl of gruel twice a day. From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.
"From each according to his ability, to each according to his need"
To the naive person, this quote from Marx sounds like everyone will just pull their own weight for others and everyones needs will be met.
But with the benefit of hindsight, it is clearly a recipe for slave labour/the gulag system where each man is worked to his utmost but only has his basic needs met. Pretty clear with the benefit of hindsight.
There are no luxuries. Worked to the max, as much as your body can stand and in return you are provided a concrete bed, thin blanket and bowl of gruel twice a day. From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.

Yes, the realities of a fringe political experiment that has resulted in serious human disaster and loss of life every single time it has been tried makes great satire if you have your head so far in the sand that you can't and won't learn from the past. Come on Che, you are convincing nobody with your smarmy , condescending replies that do not rebut the subject matter. It's totally lazy.

“Best examples of communism”? A bourgeois framing! The Paris Commune—1871—was the first workers’ government: producers seized power, abolished class privilege. Short-lived, but its essence: *proletarian dictatorship* as communism’s midwife. True communism isn’t a “model”—it’s the *movement* to bury capital.

Kerala (India) is the best example of communism. It’s a massive success story and I really hope the party can grow into other states of India
Patria o Muerte
Che Guevara ✊
Patria o Muerte
Che Guevara ✊

If we ask what communism is attempting which is elimination of hierarchy, collective ownership and resource equality it looks good on the surface but in reality if you look at Cuba and ask any Cuban that managed to fled the country they will tell you when communism is applied through force and suppression it disrupts and destroys instead of harmonising. Sadly we feel it never comes without corruption at it's core...maybe Vietnam?

It doesn't work
Never has, never will.
The communists and socialists will tell you that " it just hasn't been done properly"
Problem is, they always need other peoples money to spend...
Never has, never will.
The communists and socialists will tell you that " it just hasn't been done properly"
Problem is, they always need other peoples money to spend...

The only people with positive stories perished in the gulags.
"It was a laugh in the beginning, but things went steeply downhill shortly after."
"It was a laugh in the beginning, but things went steeply downhill shortly after."

Maybe could have worked in Russia if not for Stalin. The guy was a psycopathic shit. That said he did industrialise the country which had been largely feudal. Crazy that despite his murderous tendencies his memory has been restored in current day Russia. It would also have been interesting to see how Cuba would have worked out if left alone and not crippled by the USA. I guess the biggest problem with Communist regimes is the suppresion of political freedom and individual rights. Once they're in power they cling on to it by crushing all Opposition. In that respect they're no different from theocracies or fascist dictatorships.

Its a pipe dream, we are all living under an authoritarian dictatorship disguised as something else and it doesn't matter where you are that's just how it is.
What doesn't seem to be understood is that despite what you are led to believe nearly everyone in the world has more in common with eachother than they don't and non of the current leadership, the oligarchs or the current appointed shop floor managers (politicians) aren't doing anything about it.
And to get a rise from people.
China is winning on making it better and we are not allowed to participate in that.
Although realistically China is winning at the current version and realistically China has always been winning except for a minor blip.
What doesn't seem to be understood is that despite what you are led to believe nearly everyone in the world has more in common with eachother than they don't and non of the current leadership, the oligarchs or the current appointed shop floor managers (politicians) aren't doing anything about it.
And to get a rise from people.
China is winning on making it better and we are not allowed to participate in that.
Although realistically China is winning at the current version and realistically China has always been winning except for a minor blip.

Not exactly a success story but interesting fact. There are more cannabis users per capita in Communist North Korea than there are in any other country. They smoke to relieve the pain of living there.

Best example of communism... in the ground... deep in the ground with the devil from whence it came.

yet when everyone looks above and sees devils we know what cycle communism - or now capitalism - is in.

It doesn’t work people become lazy and there will always be those who have and those who have nothing.
Argentina’s current turnaround under Javier Milei from socialist basket case to small state and low interference is what you should be talking about. We don’t need the public sector time to slash it.
We need to get our self respect back relying on the state has made us weak and pathetic.
Argentina’s current turnaround under Javier Milei from socialist basket case to small state and low interference is what you should be talking about. We don’t need the public sector time to slash it.
We need to get our self respect back relying on the state has made us weak and pathetic.

We are already experiencing communism even in the modern world , it's a hybrid between communism and democracy , based on feelings and personal I , me Happiness and DEI.
Don't work , hand outs , nobody knows what a woman is , men are all monsters and rapists , everyone can be whatever they FEEL , massive division - past remembering - payouts for past events , people split into groups protesting, government is everything - Marxsism 1:1 .
You already have 6 - 7 nations that have fallen fighting for this aspect -
Argentina - down - Saved by Milei
Columbia - down
Venezuela - down
Chile - About to fall
Salvador - Down - But saved by Bukele
Australia - About to fall
USA - About to fall - massive border issues and most cities are walking dead with people zombies being poor and homeless.
UK - about to crash due to importing victimhood across all minorities , brits on mute mode not even saying anything to anyone.
Go woke in a country and your entire society crashes.
Capitalism + Merrit Based society is the only one working.
This has been in the works tho since the 90s - starting with the feminisation of men and masculinisation of women - Split up with your men , you can do whatever you want , then they wake up at 40's with a carrer , no fam and alone crying on Socials crying for a men.
Men - don't react , be soft , toxic masculinity , every reaction has been deemed as something is wrong with you.
Therapy is all processed from the perspective of a woman , so men don't go to that.
Men just kill themselves at some point due to loneliness , women keep talking and talking and move on.
This is where you are at in 2024 in the Western World's
So majority of people need to stop and go back to standards otherwise Societies crash entirely , we see the results Live ongoing
North Korea is the only one truly communist spot ON and it's only because the majority of the population simply wants to live like that , they don't know anything else , never did , not every nation is attracted to this notion of rich , poor ,progress yourself some just want to live like in a big Foster care home totally controlled.
Don't work , hand outs , nobody knows what a woman is , men are all monsters and rapists , everyone can be whatever they FEEL , massive division - past remembering - payouts for past events , people split into groups protesting, government is everything - Marxsism 1:1 .
You already have 6 - 7 nations that have fallen fighting for this aspect -
Argentina - down - Saved by Milei
Columbia - down
Venezuela - down
Chile - About to fall
Salvador - Down - But saved by Bukele
Australia - About to fall
USA - About to fall - massive border issues and most cities are walking dead with people zombies being poor and homeless.
UK - about to crash due to importing victimhood across all minorities , brits on mute mode not even saying anything to anyone.
Go woke in a country and your entire society crashes.
Capitalism + Merrit Based society is the only one working.
This has been in the works tho since the 90s - starting with the feminisation of men and masculinisation of women - Split up with your men , you can do whatever you want , then they wake up at 40's with a carrer , no fam and alone crying on Socials crying for a men.
Men - don't react , be soft , toxic masculinity , every reaction has been deemed as something is wrong with you.
Therapy is all processed from the perspective of a woman , so men don't go to that.
Men just kill themselves at some point due to loneliness , women keep talking and talking and move on.
This is where you are at in 2024 in the Western World's
So majority of people need to stop and go back to standards otherwise Societies crash entirely , we see the results Live ongoing
North Korea is the only one truly communist spot ON and it's only because the majority of the population simply wants to live like that , they don't know anything else , never did , not every nation is attracted to this notion of rich , poor ,progress yourself some just want to live like in a big Foster care home totally controlled.

Communism is inherently tyrannical. History shows that. There aren’t any examples of success for a reason. It goes against the human spirit. Millions more died die to its tyranny than under the Nazis but you never see documentaries on the BBC or Netflix about Stalin, Mao or Pol Pot. Capitalism isn’t perfect by a long way but meritocracy is natural and drives progress. People to an extent sort themselves into roles and structures on natural ability and interest. Socialism just teaches people to rely on the state whilst the state gets to dictate how people think and behave. It’s ideological tyranny on the one extreme and financial exploitation of a liberal society by the few on the other. My grandad was a carpenter and paid his subs to his union for years until he acknowledged the financial and ideological corruption that it was based on.

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There has never been one.
Governments, inherently are untrustworthy, the larger they are.
More proclivity to tyranny the smaller they are - which the libertarians are blind to.
There should be a lassez faire way to govern, with a balanced and adequately sized government.
Modern progressives don't like to hear this, but capitalism has lifted the world out of relative poverty, to the extent that nothing that came before it has been more beneficial to both quantity and quality of life.
Necessary evils are all around us. We think if we are selective about the ones we talk about, then the ones we don't want to talk about will disappear for some reason.
Governments, inherently are untrustworthy, the larger they are.
More proclivity to tyranny the smaller they are - which the libertarians are blind to.
There should be a lassez faire way to govern, with a balanced and adequately sized government.
Modern progressives don't like to hear this, but capitalism has lifted the world out of relative poverty, to the extent that nothing that came before it has been more beneficial to both quantity and quality of life.
Necessary evils are all around us. We think if we are selective about the ones we talk about, then the ones we don't want to talk about will disappear for some reason.

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Did Max Headroom Warn Us About the Future of AI?
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Did Max Headroom Warn Us About the Future of AI?
From the decade that brought the world Milli Vanilli, this fake out was prophetic.

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If you could smoke with any fictional character, who would it be and why?
me and my friend like tinctures best
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If you could smoke with any fictional character, who would it be and why?
Mine would have be Rick from Rick and Morty
Just picture it you spark up and suddenly you're whisked away to some trippy dimension filled with landscapes made of candy and alien creatures
08/04/2025
Just picture it you spark up and suddenly you're whisked away to some trippy dimension filled with landscapes made of candy and alien creatures
08/04/2025

I wouldn't mind a smoke and a chat with gandalf or merlin 🤔 Just to see what wisdom and tricks I could pick up💚✌️

What a brilliant question! 🌟🐨 I would choose, a grown up Mowgli, from the Jungle Book. Old enough to smoke, but smoking doesn’t harm him at all.He would know SO much wicked animal stuff , and could tell you about conversations he had had with actual animals. And he was raised by wolves and his best friends were a panther and a bear. And the baddy was a snake! 💥👾

Ooof, there are actually so many! Sanji from One Piece would be one of the top picks. The munchies you’d get after 😩. Karlach from Baldurs Gate 3 would be pretty awesome too, but she might cook the J first 😂

It would have to be Judge Dredd.
No particular reason but I reckon he'd be hysterical stoned. And there'd be some great stories.
No particular reason but I reckon he'd be hysterical stoned. And there'd be some great stories.

The female Terminator from Terminator 3 the weed would chill her out and I bet she does good hand jobs 👍🤔

There's a few. Sherlock Holmes obviously. The guy was half baked anyway. I bet he could trip and with his mind it would be an amazing experience to share. Any Michael Moorcock character. If you've not read his stuff then do yourself a favour. Ditto Martin Amis. Mathieu from Jean-Paul Sartre's "The Roads to Freedom" trilogy. An existentialist tour de force. Getting the good times out of the way we're left with any character from HP Lovecraft. Drawback is that it will fuck you up big time.

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what comes after the web?
since religions were organized, self preserving entities that transcend all people.
Decentralisation, rebirth of the concept of governments and banks (stores of value and loans of value), the internet of money, the exchange of favours peer to peer, the recognition of favours, global decentralised online democracy, micro businesses go parabolic, communities become self sufficient, govts lose control. Its happening.

True though. example..I cashed out £3k yesterday just for posting on a crypto sub on reddit for a few years, 3-4 posts a week.. erc20 rewards. I use brave browser which offers free anti tracking, https upgrades, ad free browsing (inc youtube) and it pays as you go with BAT token. It covers my premium netflix monthly subscription and costs nothing.

Elon ain’t what he’s appearing to be.
Anyone involved with those robots needs hanging from a tree.
Anyone involved with those robots needs hanging from a tree.

I've read about this before bud but never decided to do it as I felt it would be too little. Can you explain more about it, i'd love to know with regards of how active you actually were. its a very clever idea. did you pay for brave or was it free? I'll go check it out thanks for sharing :D

We bio engineer ourselves into organic super computers, harness the planets electromagnetic field as a server and live as gods in virtual reality.

but it won't be 'us' providing this world, it'll be engineered and controlled by a select few people who will have total control over everyone

ai has been in control since the 19th century, we are working for the machines, not vice versa

the corporate curated a.i. justified brave new world feed that makes you yearn for the good old days of google

Web 5. Decentralisation of personal data. Anonymity. Buyers Markets. People realise phones arent phones and just tracking chips that post spam in your face all day so we go back to mp3 players that make calls. We reverse the inversion and regain the ability to tell human from computer and truth from fiction again.
Humanity cannot progress or achieve the things we used to while big data has us pinned down with the technology and the mind games, constantly draining every penny we have. We're so busy trying to create money with our bare hands to pay off the debt they are creating that we can't get anywhere and never will.
People are working to take apart that system as we contemplate.
For now at least we have LB.
Humanity cannot progress or achieve the things we used to while big data has us pinned down with the technology and the mind games, constantly draining every penny we have. We're so busy trying to create money with our bare hands to pay off the debt they are creating that we can't get anywhere and never will.
People are working to take apart that system as we contemplate.
For now at least we have LB.

It seems more than ever the Old guard sees the next wave coming and is way more on top of it than previous leaders. this alone makes it interesting

a dildo in the face one in the butt and a fleshlight on the cock, they will convince you you are a real person and you work for onlyfans, but there will be millions of you all stacked up as far as the eye can see.

Cybernetic implants that turn you into a computer then we will go too far and try and turn the planet into a super computer and blow ourselves up again and it will be back to painting on cave walls.

Neural net will likely be next. You will see the net when you want in your own eyes. Real time everything. No screens, no devices except inside you.

When the web is fully developed, all endpoints interconnected and in harmony, I usually walk right into it and get it stuck in my hair.

Reticulum is looking really promising on the privacy decentralized web front, a whole cryptography based network stack:
https://reticulum.network/
Early days, but a lot of bits going on there:
Reticulum > network stack (similar TCP or UDP)
LXMF > message protocol (similar POP or SMTP)
RNode > a long range data radio (similar wifi access point) that you can build easily with $20 hardware and start building a mesh network
Sideband/MeshChat/NomadNetwork > full featured messaging clients
Crap name tho! :) Needs more marketing
https://reticulum.network/
Early days, but a lot of bits going on there:
Reticulum > network stack (similar TCP or UDP)
LXMF > message protocol (similar POP or SMTP)
RNode > a long range data radio (similar wifi access point) that you can build easily with $20 hardware and start building a mesh network
Sideband/MeshChat/NomadNetwork > full featured messaging clients
Crap name tho! :) Needs more marketing

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Worst song ever? And why... GO!
i dont mean to get personal but why did you need the rat if you had a tampon?
Anything by Elton John fucking hate the cunt and his music, my wife ruined my Xmas day few years back by telling me a gay singer i didnt like had died.
I was so exited then she told me it was George Michael and i was gutted.
I was so exited then she told me it was George Michael and i was gutted.

and i feel better about myself, you know plotting his murder and all. george michael on the other hand was a genius and worth a quickie in the facility of his choosing

Hahahaha, I actually like Elton, well as much as a straight man can but that made me laugh man.

Fairground simply red, gives me violent thoughts of grabbing mick by his flowing red curls and bouncing his head of every hard surface available. Total pissflap

Yeah anything by Simply Red can give me Forrest Whittaker eye but Fairground is especially bad

And imagine being called Eileen when it came on down the pub back in the day…. Poor cow needed 3 packs of baby wipes.

Too many but Will Smith - Wild Wild West has got to be up there surely. It’s like some record execs put a gun to his head and said ‘Dance bitch!’

Do you think they did it again to willow ? I whip my hair even for a 13 year old was fucking awful

that movie had so much going for it and they still blew it, would make a better series than a lot of shit

Nothing Compares to You by Sinead Depressing Cunt O'Connor that song has the warmth and charm of a dead Rat lying next to a used Tampon.

That Barbie girl tune, need I say why! Lol
And the “grandma I love you” tune, showing my age! Lol
And the “grandma I love you” tune, showing my age! Lol

Ok you win… The grandma I love you song was fucking horrendous, then they felt the need to create the sequel… Grandpa I love you… I mean we got the message the first time.

written and produced by herbie flowers, one of the greatest session musicians of the late 60's and 70's (google him - he's was an amazing musician and played bass on many of the greatest recordings of the era from lou reed, scott walker, david bowie, t rex, bryan ferry, many more) who was sick of getting paid session rates and living in a two bed semi in ditchling while everyone who employed him got super rich so came up with the st. winifred's school choir records as a retirement plan, possibly also as revenge against a cruel, unjust and uncaring world/record buying public and maybe a bet with lou reed that he could make something even worse than metal machine music and still get it to number one.
you are right though, they are truly the worst songs ever recorded.
you are right though, they are truly the worst songs ever recorded.

Lol. She is a liar too, when that Leo chap drowned in the ice, his heart certainly didn’t go on….

Watch this with your sound on, and I think you will agree no further explanation is required.

Bruno Mars.
"When I see your face
There's not a thing that I would change
'Cause you're amazing
Just the way you are"
My question is - how many faces did he previously change to suit his needs. He's amazed he found someone who's face doesn't need rearranging. This man is a psycho folks.
"When I see your face
There's not a thing that I would change
'Cause you're amazing
Just the way you are"
My question is - how many faces did he previously change to suit his needs. He's amazed he found someone who's face doesn't need rearranging. This man is a psycho folks.

Keane - Bedshaped.
Stupid, depressing lyrics that make no sense at all.
Bedshaped? That'll be a bed then...
I hate it because it reminds me of the two weeks I spent crawling around a 20 inch deep subfloor void for 8 hours a day, doing timber treatments on a huge old house.
That shit was on the radio every 20 mins for the whole time we were there.
Scarred me 🙉
Stupid, depressing lyrics that make no sense at all.
Bedshaped? That'll be a bed then...
I hate it because it reminds me of the two weeks I spent crawling around a 20 inch deep subfloor void for 8 hours a day, doing timber treatments on a huge old house.
That shit was on the radio every 20 mins for the whole time we were there.
Scarred me 🙉

Steppin' Out by Joe Jackson. Ain't rock, ain't disco, can't dance to it without looking like Steve Martin doing a retarded dance.

If you really want a contender for worst song, you need to listen to Taylor Swift Gorgeous. The song composition and the lyrics seem like they were written by a child.

Also majority of her songs. She did a cover of September by earth wind and fire that haunts me... She turned funk into folk what the actual fuck.

hahaha.. funny to see Zeppelin here because it did occur to me too . Seems like everybody has to adore their music :P

I forgot all about this,Hey plenty of Zepp stuff is fine but that song really gets my goat the first time i heard it i never knew who it was my missus had been putting cd's in the laptop and they kept getting synched to my ipod it came on random one day and i just went wtf is this shit before looking who it was, it sounds to me like a holiday camp band doing reggae.

All musicians steal mate and say they were inspired. A lot of that era were the same. Keith Richards does it. Don’t think that takes away from them as musicians.

Cool, mine too. Sometimes I feel like the great Alan in your photo speaking to younger people. AHA. I was sick with laughter when he got hit with a cow. Steve coogans characters are genius. All the way back to the calf family

as a punk i was always compelled to hate led zep, it was a mistake, i still hate most classic rock still (with merit now) but these guys were really in a class by themselves.

I’m too nice to downvote as maybe that’s how you feel but seriously? The band who gave us in my time of dying can never be fuckin awful.

Anything by/from:
Enya
Engelbert Humperdinck
The "Top 20"
Eurovision
Status Quo
Enya
Enya
--- all should be banned as Weapons of Mass Destruction of the ear'oles
Enya
Engelbert Humperdinck
The "Top 20"
Eurovision
Status Quo
Enya
Enya
--- all should be banned as Weapons of Mass Destruction of the ear'oles

Driving my girls in my car when they were younger they always put the radio on. I'm fine with that but I had to insist on three strict rules. 1. No Phil Collins; 2. No UB40; and 3. No Starship "We Built This Fucking City". I consider myself a pretty mellow guy but if the station wasn't changed when any of them came on I could change into a raging beast.

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{nations}
what if they go nuclear?
i say everyone fucking first, then the nukes
on
{nations}
what if they go nuclear?
the people with their fingers on the button are increasingly crazy and there are more of them every year.
10,000 hiroshimas in each bomb @ current tech.
10,000 hiroshimas in each bomb @ current tech.

Watch "On the beach" the 1959 movie and listen to Fred Astaire's speech in the submarine.
Cheers
Cheers

One single bomb can have more power than every bomb ever used in war previously combined.
Probably enough nukes on earth to send it out of orbit!
The powers that be make a fortune from tech, which is why there always have to be an "enemy"
The enemy is always selected by the world's largest rogue nation, the US.
If we were to unsubscribe from this bullshit, tear down borders, and love our neighbours, we could make these wankers obsolete, and with the money saved, could eradicate poverty worldwide ....
Probably enough nukes on earth to send it out of orbit!
The powers that be make a fortune from tech, which is why there always have to be an "enemy"
The enemy is always selected by the world's largest rogue nation, the US.
If we were to unsubscribe from this bullshit, tear down borders, and love our neighbours, we could make these wankers obsolete, and with the money saved, could eradicate poverty worldwide ....

“I don’t know what weapons World War III will be fought with, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones.”

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🔥🔥gsc 25$ per vape 🔥🔥
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Study: 25% of world population has an intestine parasite, a lot of them don’t know it . Ivermectin kills them
So how would you know?
Study: 25% of world population has an intestine parasite, a lot of them don’t know it . Ivermectin kills them
https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/intestinal-parasites
Global infection ≈ ~25%
• Of those infected:
• A significant fraction (often 20–50%) are asymptomatic ( don’t have any symptoms )
Global infection ≈ ~25%
• Of those infected:
• A significant fraction (often 20–50%) are asymptomatic ( don’t have any symptoms )

The only reliable way is stool testing, but if you don’t have any symptoms, then you have no reason to bother with testing. some people skip testing; and just kill whatever you would have with ivermectin.

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{web 3.0}
is IPFS storage permanent?
yes free pins are everywhere
You need a live "pin" to whatever you store. If not the data is orphaned and thrown away. You can keep the ipfs app open and pin forever or use a service for this. So yes permanent if you maintain it, and that is not free.

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+2 votes
£16.99 / 1mL Cartridge (Intro Offer)
can you get your carts tested?
£16.99 / 1mL Cartridge (Intro Offer)
Introductory offer on these cartridges. 1mL (1000mg)
Smooth, canna derived terpenes.
Please remember to review if taking part
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Smooth, canna derived terpenes.
Please remember to review if taking part
40 left as of 15/03

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Megan05
Society order Cryptonic payment
Blockchain is blockchain, I would hit up transaxe and figure it out
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Megan05
Society order Cryptonic payment
As site down placed order on Society. Made payment & noticed when payment received it was not made via Transax but via Cryptonic. Payment confirmed but when I returned to order it is marked as unpaid?. I have a screenshot of the payment confirmation & transaction confirmation. Does anyone have any advice please?

I have the same problem. Shows as paid from my end, all looks fine on Coinbase and blockchain but order still marked unpaid on LB. However when I go back to the order and click ‘pay’ again, it says received - I get the exact same screenshot as you.
It’s stressful when these kinda probs happen and it’s my first time ordering thru society I always use normal web so it is extra worrying. Hopefully it’s as Dr Green says 😬
It’s stressful when these kinda probs happen and it’s my first time ordering thru society I always use normal web so it is extra worrying. Hopefully it’s as Dr Green says 😬

I share your stress, its not looking good & website down for long time today with no maintenance notice. Please post if your order is marked as paid

I think everything is a bit slow, when LB back up it will probably show up.
Ive had someone order and can see they have paid via reference on chat but isn't showing as paid on order. It sounds similar to your order.
Hopefully everything will be back to normal soon 🤞
DoctorGreen
Ive had someone order and can see they have paid via reference on chat but isn't showing as paid on order. It sounds similar to your order.
Hopefully everything will be back to normal soon 🤞
DoctorGreen

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+5 votes
cool the globe by dimming the sun
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cool the globe by dimming the sun
a scary start up wants to spread mysterious particles in the stratosphere

They’ve been doing this for years now , mostly carried out by United States military , they’ve stepped it up since convid , part of the Paris agreement the government signed up to also part of the depopulation program, fill everyone up with heavy metals like aluminium, barium, graphene .

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dwarfedgiant
Little (dwarfed) Biggie (giant)
We were what you are 😉
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+8 votes
mr bond meet mr bean
started topic
1 post
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The Surprise of the Decade: Steve Jobs Had Faked His Own Death
poor bastard had to use windows to cover his tracks
**The Resurrection Gig**
Jesus Christ, it was October again in Silicon Valley and the ghost of Steve Jobs had just walked onto the stage at Apple Park like some kind of digital Nosferatu, twenty-one years after they'd supposedly planted him in the ground at Alta Mesa Memorial, and nobody—not the venture vultures in the front row, not the sweating tech journalists whose entire careers had been built on eulogizing this bastard, not even Tim Cook who was sitting backstage probably contemplating ritual suicide—nobody knew whether to shit or go blind.
I'd driven up from Big Sur in a rented Cadillac convertible on assignment for Rolling Stone[1], my attorney having bailed somewhere around San Jose after consuming what he claimed was "bad sushi" but was almost certainly that sheet of windowpane we'd picked up in Oakland. The invite had come through encrypted channels: STEVE JOBS ALIVE. MAJOR ANNOUNCEMENT. COMPLIMENTARY TEQUILA.
The tequila turned out to be a lie, which should have been my first warning that we were in for a serious mindfuck.
Jobs looked like he'd spent the last two decades eating nothing but his own paranoia and maybe some organic kale grown in a bunker somewhere in New Zealand—Peter Thiel's bunker, according to my sources, which made a demented kind of sense given that both men shared that particular Silicon Valley psychosis that treats death like it's just another market inefficiency to be disrupted.
"So," he croaked into the microphone, and the sound system was so perfect it made my fillings hurt, "death."
The crowd went silent in that specific way that very rich people get silent when they smell an opportunity to become obscenely richer. I was taking notes but my hands were shaking—three espressos and a fistful of speed will do that—and trying to process the pure gonzo insanity of watching a dead man do a product launch.
What he unveiled was called the iMind, some kind of chrome brain-tap that looked like something out of Cronenberg's nightmare journal, and Jobs was ranting about "consciousness interfaces" and "neural harmonics" with the fervor of a tent-revival preacher who'd replaced Jesus with microprocessors. They wheeled out some poor sonofabitch in a wheelchair—Marcus, a veteran, naturally they'd use a veteran for the propaganda optics—and suddenly he's controlling a killer robot with his thoughts.
The robot danced. The crowd applauded. I needed a drink.
But here's where it got really weird, and I mean Fear and Loathing weird, I mean brown-acid-at-Altamont weird: Jobs started explaining how the iMind had been secretly installed in every iPhone since 2019, how Apple had been recording human consciousness and uploading it to their servers, backing up people's souls like they were fucking iTunes libraries.
"We're creating immortality," he said, eyes glittering with that special Silicon Valley madness that comes from having too much money and not enough adult supervision. "We're building God."
I looked around for the exits. Several people were already on their phones calling their lawyers. One woman in the third row was weeping. A Bloomberg reporter next to me was typing so fast his laptop was smoking.
The demonstration ended with Jobs dropping the real bomb: everyone who'd ever owned an iPhone was already uploaded. Already backed up. Already, in some twisted sense, already dead and reborn in Apple's cloud.
"One more thing," he said—and I swear to God his left eye was twitching like a trapped animal—"we're going live with full integration in six months. Opt-out will cost you everything."
Then he walked off stage and disappeared into the building's chrome corridors like a ghost returning to its haunted mansion. The audience sat paralyzed. Someone vomited. Apple's stock went vertical. Three governments declared war on California.
I drove back to Big Sur at 110 mph, chain-smoking and trying to remember if I'd ever owned an iPhone. My attorney called from a holding cell in Santa Clara. "Did that really happen?" he asked.
"No," I said. "But we're all fucked anyway."
The check from Rolling Stone bounced. Of course it did. By then, money meant nothing. We were all just data now, waiting to be synchronized.
---
[1] This was a lie. Rolling Stone died years ago. We all knew it. But some fictions are necessary for survival.
Jesus Christ, it was October again in Silicon Valley and the ghost of Steve Jobs had just walked onto the stage at Apple Park like some kind of digital Nosferatu, twenty-one years after they'd supposedly planted him in the ground at Alta Mesa Memorial, and nobody—not the venture vultures in the front row, not the sweating tech journalists whose entire careers had been built on eulogizing this bastard, not even Tim Cook who was sitting backstage probably contemplating ritual suicide—nobody knew whether to shit or go blind.
I'd driven up from Big Sur in a rented Cadillac convertible on assignment for Rolling Stone[1], my attorney having bailed somewhere around San Jose after consuming what he claimed was "bad sushi" but was almost certainly that sheet of windowpane we'd picked up in Oakland. The invite had come through encrypted channels: STEVE JOBS ALIVE. MAJOR ANNOUNCEMENT. COMPLIMENTARY TEQUILA.
The tequila turned out to be a lie, which should have been my first warning that we were in for a serious mindfuck.
Jobs looked like he'd spent the last two decades eating nothing but his own paranoia and maybe some organic kale grown in a bunker somewhere in New Zealand—Peter Thiel's bunker, according to my sources, which made a demented kind of sense given that both men shared that particular Silicon Valley psychosis that treats death like it's just another market inefficiency to be disrupted.
"So," he croaked into the microphone, and the sound system was so perfect it made my fillings hurt, "death."
The crowd went silent in that specific way that very rich people get silent when they smell an opportunity to become obscenely richer. I was taking notes but my hands were shaking—three espressos and a fistful of speed will do that—and trying to process the pure gonzo insanity of watching a dead man do a product launch.
What he unveiled was called the iMind, some kind of chrome brain-tap that looked like something out of Cronenberg's nightmare journal, and Jobs was ranting about "consciousness interfaces" and "neural harmonics" with the fervor of a tent-revival preacher who'd replaced Jesus with microprocessors. They wheeled out some poor sonofabitch in a wheelchair—Marcus, a veteran, naturally they'd use a veteran for the propaganda optics—and suddenly he's controlling a killer robot with his thoughts.
The robot danced. The crowd applauded. I needed a drink.
But here's where it got really weird, and I mean Fear and Loathing weird, I mean brown-acid-at-Altamont weird: Jobs started explaining how the iMind had been secretly installed in every iPhone since 2019, how Apple had been recording human consciousness and uploading it to their servers, backing up people's souls like they were fucking iTunes libraries.
"We're creating immortality," he said, eyes glittering with that special Silicon Valley madness that comes from having too much money and not enough adult supervision. "We're building God."
I looked around for the exits. Several people were already on their phones calling their lawyers. One woman in the third row was weeping. A Bloomberg reporter next to me was typing so fast his laptop was smoking.
The demonstration ended with Jobs dropping the real bomb: everyone who'd ever owned an iPhone was already uploaded. Already backed up. Already, in some twisted sense, already dead and reborn in Apple's cloud.
"One more thing," he said—and I swear to God his left eye was twitching like a trapped animal—"we're going live with full integration in six months. Opt-out will cost you everything."
Then he walked off stage and disappeared into the building's chrome corridors like a ghost returning to its haunted mansion. The audience sat paralyzed. Someone vomited. Apple's stock went vertical. Three governments declared war on California.
I drove back to Big Sur at 110 mph, chain-smoking and trying to remember if I'd ever owned an iPhone. My attorney called from a holding cell in Santa Clara. "Did that really happen?" he asked.
"No," I said. "But we're all fucked anyway."
The check from Rolling Stone bounced. Of course it did. By then, money meant nothing. We were all just data now, waiting to be synchronized.
---
[1] This was a lie. Rolling Stone died years ago. We all knew it. But some fictions are necessary for survival.

**The Revelation of Steven P. Jobs, October 2032, Cupertino**
The thing about resurrection—and let's be clear that this is what we're talking about here, the whole Lazarus deal minus the actual death part[1]—is that it requires a certain theatrical commitment that even the most megalomaniacal tech CEO would find exhausting, except apparently not, because here's Steve Jobs at age 77 looking somehow more gaunt than in 2011, standing in the exact same spot on the exact same stage where he'd unveiled the iPhone twenty-five years ago, wearing the exact same outfit (black turtleneck, Levi's 501s, New Balances[2]) except now the jeans hang differently because two decades of hiding in a bunker in New Zealand[3] will do things to your hip-to-waist ratio that no amount of pescatarian dieting could achieve.
The crowd—venture capitalists, tech journalists, the usual suspects who'd spent the last twenty-one years mythologizing a dead man who wasn't—sits in that particular Silicon Valley silence that costs $10,000 per ticket. Jobs clears his throat. The sound system, naturally, is perfect.
"So," he says, and there's this pause that costs approximately $47 million in lost productivity across the global markets watching the livestream, "death."
What follows is not an apology—this is Steve Jobs after all—but rather a Keynote about how he'd spent 7,665 days developing what he calls the iMind, which is basically a neural interface that makes Neuralink look like a Fisher-Price toy, except he doesn't mention Musk because that would be beneath him, even though everyone knows that's exactly what he's doing. The device, chrome and minimalist, sits on a pedestal that rises from the stage floor with the kind of automated precision that makes German engineers weep.
"The thing about consciousness," Jobs says, pacing now with that old evangelical energy, "is that we've been interfacing with it wrong."
The demonstration involves a paraplegic veteran named Marcus who hasn't walked in fifteen years suddenly controlling a Boston Dynamics robot[4] with his thoughts, except the robot is painted white and has rounded edges and somehow looks friendly despite being a military-grade killing machine. Marcus makes the robot do the Running Man. The crowd laughs. This is worth $2 trillion, easy.
But here's the thing that no one talks about afterward, the detail that gets lost in the stock market explosion and the ethical think-pieces and the Congressional hearings: when Jobs finally explains why he faked his death (something about "needing space to innovate without the burden of existence"), there's this moment where he stops mid-sentence and stares at the audience, and his left eye twitches in a way that suggests either neurological damage from beta-testing his own brain-computer interface or the weight of having ghosted his own family for two decades.
"One more thing," he says, because of course he does. The iMind, he explains, has been recording and uploading human consciousness to Apple servers since 2019. Everyone with an iPhone 12 or later has been participating in "the largest backup of human experience ever attempted."
The presentation ends. The lights come up. The audience sits frozen, unsure whether to applaud or call their lawyers or both[5]. Jobs has already left the stage. Within six hours, Apple's market cap exceeds the GDP of Japan. Within twelve hours, three nations declare the iMind a weapon of mass destruction. Within twenty-one years—but that's another story, and we're all dead by then anyway, or at least backed up, which amounts to the same thing.
---
[1] Though theologians would later argue this point extensively in the *Journal of Digital Resurrection Studies*, Vol. 1, 2033.
[2] He'd actually been wearing ASICS since 2003 but the New Balance thing had become canon.
[3] Peter Thiel's bunker, specifically, because even posthumous innovation requires venture capital.
[4] Now a subsidiary of Apple, acquired hostile-takeover-style while everyone thought Jobs was dead.
[5] They do both, simultaneously, which becomes known as the "Cupertino Paradox."
The thing about resurrection—and let's be clear that this is what we're talking about here, the whole Lazarus deal minus the actual death part[1]—is that it requires a certain theatrical commitment that even the most megalomaniacal tech CEO would find exhausting, except apparently not, because here's Steve Jobs at age 77 looking somehow more gaunt than in 2011, standing in the exact same spot on the exact same stage where he'd unveiled the iPhone twenty-five years ago, wearing the exact same outfit (black turtleneck, Levi's 501s, New Balances[2]) except now the jeans hang differently because two decades of hiding in a bunker in New Zealand[3] will do things to your hip-to-waist ratio that no amount of pescatarian dieting could achieve.
The crowd—venture capitalists, tech journalists, the usual suspects who'd spent the last twenty-one years mythologizing a dead man who wasn't—sits in that particular Silicon Valley silence that costs $10,000 per ticket. Jobs clears his throat. The sound system, naturally, is perfect.
"So," he says, and there's this pause that costs approximately $47 million in lost productivity across the global markets watching the livestream, "death."
What follows is not an apology—this is Steve Jobs after all—but rather a Keynote about how he'd spent 7,665 days developing what he calls the iMind, which is basically a neural interface that makes Neuralink look like a Fisher-Price toy, except he doesn't mention Musk because that would be beneath him, even though everyone knows that's exactly what he's doing. The device, chrome and minimalist, sits on a pedestal that rises from the stage floor with the kind of automated precision that makes German engineers weep.
"The thing about consciousness," Jobs says, pacing now with that old evangelical energy, "is that we've been interfacing with it wrong."
The demonstration involves a paraplegic veteran named Marcus who hasn't walked in fifteen years suddenly controlling a Boston Dynamics robot[4] with his thoughts, except the robot is painted white and has rounded edges and somehow looks friendly despite being a military-grade killing machine. Marcus makes the robot do the Running Man. The crowd laughs. This is worth $2 trillion, easy.
But here's the thing that no one talks about afterward, the detail that gets lost in the stock market explosion and the ethical think-pieces and the Congressional hearings: when Jobs finally explains why he faked his death (something about "needing space to innovate without the burden of existence"), there's this moment where he stops mid-sentence and stares at the audience, and his left eye twitches in a way that suggests either neurological damage from beta-testing his own brain-computer interface or the weight of having ghosted his own family for two decades.
"One more thing," he says, because of course he does. The iMind, he explains, has been recording and uploading human consciousness to Apple servers since 2019. Everyone with an iPhone 12 or later has been participating in "the largest backup of human experience ever attempted."
The presentation ends. The lights come up. The audience sits frozen, unsure whether to applaud or call their lawyers or both[5]. Jobs has already left the stage. Within six hours, Apple's market cap exceeds the GDP of Japan. Within twelve hours, three nations declare the iMind a weapon of mass destruction. Within twenty-one years—but that's another story, and we're all dead by then anyway, or at least backed up, which amounts to the same thing.
---
[1] Though theologians would later argue this point extensively in the *Journal of Digital Resurrection Studies*, Vol. 1, 2033.
[2] He'd actually been wearing ASICS since 2003 but the New Balance thing had become canon.
[3] Peter Thiel's bunker, specifically, because even posthumous innovation requires venture capital.
[4] Now a subsidiary of Apple, acquired hostile-takeover-style while everyone thought Jobs was dead.
[5] They do both, simultaneously, which becomes known as the "Cupertino Paradox."

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Pukkapuff
New year rez to quit , now broken . Yay!
so 5 days with just edibles then
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Pukkapuff
New year rez to quit , now broken . Yay!
So i lasted about 5 days giving up smoking until i was searching for crumbs , scraping the grinder etc! I wish i could find an alternative to tobacco and flower combo that hits the spot. Gummies are good for occasional use - my tolerance increases too much. Vapes i have a similar experience with… quickly becoming largely immune .
Then again the world is so crazy right now - not the time to quit.
Back out for some northern lights - the real ones in the sky lol not the flower!
Then again the world is so crazy right now - not the time to quit.
Back out for some northern lights - the real ones in the sky lol not the flower!

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{shows}
Pluto
started topic
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+1 votes
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[cities]
Could a DAO build a city?
Not on my block ;)
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+1 votes
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GdogHd1
naturesfiyah review 🇨🇦 🔥
Yeah this ain't dodgy at all: RESHIP POLICY: 50% refund/reship on non arrivals - anyone who leaves us negative feedback before contacting us WILL BE B…
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GdogHd1
naturesfiyah review 🇨🇦 🔥
Nature was asking for a reviewer so I stepped up.
Less than a week later it lands.
I received 3 extract variants:
THCA DIAMONDS
SHATTER
LIVE RESIN WAX
ALL 3 VERY HIGH QUALITY!!!
Casper OG – Shatter
Really impressed with this one. Proper OG flavour straight away — gassy, earthy, with a little bit of citrus behind it. The texture is spot on: clean, stable, and melts smoothly with no harshness. The high comes on fast — heavy eyes, full-body relaxation, and that classic OG calm without clouding the mind. Strong, clean, and exactly how good shatter should feel.
⸻
Blue Zushi – Sugar Wax
Smell threw me off at first — it’s got that funky Zushi nose, bit sour, bit sweet, but once it starts melting the flavour makes sense. Really tasty. Hits more upbeat at the start — proper head rush and uplift — then settles into a chilled, happy, relaxed high. Great texture, nice sugary crumble, and melts clean. Strong but sociable. Very nice batch.
⸻
THCA Diamonds
These are pure. Proper clear/white crystals, exactly how they should look. Not much smell on their own but they melt beautifully. Extremely strong — one dab is more than enough. Clean, fast, straight-to-the-head hit with a big wave of potency behind it. Definitely the strongest thing in the batch. Quality is obvious as soon as it starts melting.
Insane prices from 🇨🇦
Less than a week later it lands.
I received 3 extract variants:
THCA DIAMONDS
SHATTER
LIVE RESIN WAX
ALL 3 VERY HIGH QUALITY!!!
Casper OG – Shatter
Really impressed with this one. Proper OG flavour straight away — gassy, earthy, with a little bit of citrus behind it. The texture is spot on: clean, stable, and melts smoothly with no harshness. The high comes on fast — heavy eyes, full-body relaxation, and that classic OG calm without clouding the mind. Strong, clean, and exactly how good shatter should feel.
⸻
Blue Zushi – Sugar Wax
Smell threw me off at first — it’s got that funky Zushi nose, bit sour, bit sweet, but once it starts melting the flavour makes sense. Really tasty. Hits more upbeat at the start — proper head rush and uplift — then settles into a chilled, happy, relaxed high. Great texture, nice sugary crumble, and melts clean. Strong but sociable. Very nice batch.
⸻
THCA Diamonds
These are pure. Proper clear/white crystals, exactly how they should look. Not much smell on their own but they melt beautifully. Extremely strong — one dab is more than enough. Clean, fast, straight-to-the-head hit with a big wave of potency behind it. Definitely the strongest thing in the batch. Quality is obvious as soon as it starts melting.
Insane prices from 🇨🇦

Wow, they're cheap. I hope they don't expect to get on the wall though, they'd put other vendors out of business, and the Borgs won't let that happen.

Yeah, you're not understanding me. You think Borgs will support a vendor selling for half, or less, than they're big Golden Geese vendors?

I too got a bit of the Casper sent out.. bloody strong and tasty! 7 days to Northern Ireland from Canada incl weekend. Gonna put an order in myself after New Year!

Yeah this ain't dodgy at all: RESHIP POLICY: 50% refund/reship on non arrivals - anyone who leaves us negative feedback before contacting us WILL BE BLACKLISTED from using our services ⚠️
Seen this scam so many time bro, you a setup man without even realising it.
Seen this scam so many time bro, you a setup man without even realising it.

I reviewed the products as requested, policies not dissimilar to others…but as always approach with caution!! Until reviews are built time will tell I guess. But the product is TOP TIER

I can vouch for him to got a free 1g sample of the Mac daddy crumble and it was out of this world , ive got a 3.5 of the fruity pebble og coming today or tomorrow hopefully

Check NATURESFIYAH out on this link for top tier extracts at rock bottom prices!!!

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The kid at school that says he’s “smoked with his stepdad” but when presented with the joint doesn’t inhale properly. We showed him how it’s done and watched his soul leave his body as he proceeded to take 3 of the biggest drags I’ve ever seen. It was at this moment he knew he fucked up. As he turned bright green then proceeded to have what I can only describe as a mental break down. Scary shit when your 15 and class is starting in 10mins. Good times

There's a certain stoner i like to call an "elevenerife" you'll tell a story about going to tenerife and this person will swear blind they went to elevenerife 😭😭 or they've more drugs than anyone ever 🤣

this is a serious medical condition that insensitive biggaz need to recognise. starting with subsidised weed from the government of little biggy. also potentially racist so perhaps double up on the allocation.

The exaggerating older stoner who hilariously thinks weed is weaker now than it was in his day...nothing to do with a 40 year tolerance build up lol

Man United Fan ....i know you cant see but im playing the worlds smallest violin for you as we speak😂😂😂 give us a message with your addy n we will get you the capsules sent out on Monday 😂😂😂

I used to know a guy who would roll one up and smoke two thirds of it then pass the last bit around. The problem with this was he's so stingy he would only put weed in the part he was smoking and then just be passing a roll up around to people. It obviously didn't take long for us all to realise what he was doing and we all stopped taking his joints so I guess the stingy fucker got what he wanted in the end. Absolute degenerate behaviour, don't be like this guy people.

When someone going constantly smoking your stash with you never buying a shit... Those kind of friends are always broke but always stoned 😑

Yea I got one of these in my Friend group, he got short arms and deep pockets lol 😆 😂

When someone rolls roach by ripping a rizla packet instead of card and then present a baggy zoot...

Ripping a rizla pack regardless of how the zoot comes out is just a no go 💯💯😂😂😂

Always have that one friend who "doesnt want anything" when getting takeout after a smoke sesh, then proceeds to eat half ya scran! Does my head in 😭😂

"Do you want anything from shop ?" ....Naa I'm Good Mate .... (then proceeds to eat half your much ) 😂😂😂

Hi Alchemist
On the continent we put tobacco in everything.
I once had a guy react aggressively after passing him the smoke: I had mistakenly told him do you want the joint but it was tobacco and hash instad of weed and hash. "THAT'S NOT A JOINT THAT'S A SPLIFF!" he said and he was clearly pissed off with me,
How cool can you NOT get?
On the continent we put tobacco in everything.
I once had a guy react aggressively after passing him the smoke: I had mistakenly told him do you want the joint but it was tobacco and hash instad of weed and hash. "THAT'S NOT A JOINT THAT'S A SPLIFF!" he said and he was clearly pissed off with me,
How cool can you NOT get?

Is there acctually a difference between a joint and a spliff , I thought it was more of a generational thing 😂😂

biggest red flag is the orbiter, we all got that one friend or friend of a friend who will orbit just to smoke free bud.
get this i know a guy who will try to initiate a smoke when he brings no bud, papers roach or even lips that don’t soggy the roach. brother sucks the roach and hands it wetter than the pacific, absolute weapon.
get this i know a guy who will try to initiate a smoke when he brings no bud, papers roach or even lips that don’t soggy the roach. brother sucks the roach and hands it wetter than the pacific, absolute weapon.

anyone who uses swans tbh. i've also personally witnessed the fatal error of a friend eating the other half of the edible after deciding it wasn't hitting quick enough

"This weed doesn't work for me" - dude who smokes less than everyone else who's blasted off the same weed that "doesn't work".

a red flag is something that gives the game away, like building 7, died suddenly and unexpectedly, two tier policing, etc.
i struggle to find a red flag for a stoner,
of course the big one is the glass eyes
i struggle to find a red flag for a stoner,
of course the big one is the glass eyes

Trying to promote your edibles on another Pages give away is red flag if ive ever seen one 🚩🚩🚩🤔😂

When someone waits ages for the adverts to come on ( To get a drink or have a piss) while watching something on TV then realising after about 2 hours you're watching BBC1

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Our Interpretation of the Wonderwall
scammers are very often hard coded for touchiness (usually they feel deeply cheated in childhood).
touchy discussions are a great way for an algorit…
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Our Interpretation of the Wonderwall
Darlings: our wonderful wall has a mind of it's own, though we each influence this mind with our words and deeds here.
The wall measures novelty, popularity, positivity and most of all integrity. It does this based on experience and gets smarter every day.
We understand the tea leaf reading can be difficult, especially for noobs, but there are a few things that we have come to lean:
1 stay online and be responsive
2 voting and posting patterns betray lots of naughty behavior, this makes things very easy for the algorithms
3 nastiness always winds up hurting you, even when you are right
4 if you remind the algo of a previous dodgy person you have an uphill battle
Data from your payment processor, over posting, over messaging, and more seem to go into it as well. Whatever it is though dears you'll always hear the same thing from us, be patient,
And by all means please do understand that Borgs can not control the wall.
The wall measures novelty, popularity, positivity and most of all integrity. It does this based on experience and gets smarter every day.
We understand the tea leaf reading can be difficult, especially for noobs, but there are a few things that we have come to lean:
1 stay online and be responsive
2 voting and posting patterns betray lots of naughty behavior, this makes things very easy for the algorithms
3 nastiness always winds up hurting you, even when you are right
4 if you remind the algo of a previous dodgy person you have an uphill battle
Data from your payment processor, over posting, over messaging, and more seem to go into it as well. Whatever it is though dears you'll always hear the same thing from us, be patient,
And by all means please do understand that Borgs can not control the wall.

Very interesting.
You obviously need to be a positive member, treat other members as you want to be treated yourself. It constantly learns from your input. What an amazing use of algorithms and no-one has complete control. That's my interpretation.
You obviously need to be a positive member, treat other members as you want to be treated yourself. It constantly learns from your input. What an amazing use of algorithms and no-one has complete control. That's my interpretation.

Yes you charming bloke it's love that feeds on hate. What we are trying to do here is let people understand it better.

scammers are very often hard coded for touchiness (usually they feel deeply cheated in childhood).
touchy discussions are a great way for an algorithm to round up the usual subjects.
touchy discussions are a great way for an algorithm to round up the usual subjects.

Just respect and no bullying with true freedom of speech and no one ganging up on people just for posting simple questions or opinions ! not rocket science is it? :)

We would feel we live by those 4 rules but lately we are being pushed out by the algorithm if anything has changed recently can we change it back please, We conduct business as usual but our topics our basically invisible and our new items don't show on the wall our old items are in a freefall we always try to stay positive and have patience but we have seen zero rotation in the items wall all week whereas usually it would change only a daily basis making things fair for all and our topics seem to be invisible, why hide the Canadian we are the life of the party :)

We should also add a very important point: we see the behaviour trends but what comes out of fraud detection is a borg of a different colour.
We can't see this kind of thing anymore than you can and it has far greater influence on the wall than any other factor.
We can't see this kind of thing anymore than you can and it has far greater influence on the wall than any other factor.

Hi, I appreciate the info.. when you say a Borg of different colour, what does that mean?

each borg has a very limited job, fraud belongs to a non public-facing borg that appears extremely automated.

I have been solicited to join as a vendor to a site called little biggie.org. Came from an anonymous message in my lb inbox.
I know this is scam spam, but disturbs me nonetheless.
I know this is scam spam, but disturbs me nonetheless.

Thank you for shedding a little bit of light on the madness that is the LB Wonderwall, Cleanup Borg. I see a lot of posts and questions on this regularly. It's cool to know how it functions :)

I see “The Wall” like online matchmaking and ranking systems.
firstly the bad actors work out how it works (hence most devs never fully explain it) but these bad folk work it out anyway.
Then they abuse the shit out of it.
Devs are then in arms race to “outsmart” via changes and updates.
They work it out again and the cycle continues…
This is why very often it results in questionable behaviour, in this case our wall order and things can get messy.
Unfortunately the small % of bad actors FUCK it for the rest of us.
Also, borgs I really hope that “Cali” string flag is in a combination of other stuff , cos otherwise it’s dog shit and you hurt even folk like me as I’ve come to use “Cali dense” as a term to help people know their bud density
firstly the bad actors work out how it works (hence most devs never fully explain it) but these bad folk work it out anyway.
Then they abuse the shit out of it.
Devs are then in arms race to “outsmart” via changes and updates.
They work it out again and the cycle continues…
This is why very often it results in questionable behaviour, in this case our wall order and things can get messy.
Unfortunately the small % of bad actors FUCK it for the rest of us.
Also, borgs I really hope that “Cali” string flag is in a combination of other stuff , cos otherwise it’s dog shit and you hurt even folk like me as I’ve come to use “Cali dense” as a term to help people know their bud density

Cheers that clears a few things up and makes for interesting reading.
Still a mystery but to a certain extent what makes it bad can make you stumble on some interesting items but if I’m honest most of the best stuff I’ve purchased has been down to scrolling though the comments.
Still a mystery but to a certain extent what makes it bad can make you stumble on some interesting items but if I’m honest most of the best stuff I’ve purchased has been down to scrolling though the comments.

Not the only one same happened to us, you were most likely beating the competitors so they made you invisible, same happened to us we had zero conflict with anyone followed the rules and for no reason just gone.

FEED THE MACHINE LOVE AND THE PEOPLE IN THE REAL WORLD MAKE POSITIVE CHANGE WITH THEIR HAPPINESS <3 <3 <3
BIG LOVE X
BIG LOVE X

Someone with a chip on there shoulder, we have been made invisible and after 7-8 messages over 8 days no reply at all from Borgs not a single reply as to why

After 14 months of lb systems working perfect I’ve woke up today to find out by a good few loyal customers that we are not on the item wall anymore and I have also noticed my new comp is not going onto the topics board after posting yesterday
Making the comp rather pointless to at the least
If anything has changed please put it back the way it was as this is not great for business
Kind regards
OV
Making the comp rather pointless to at the least
If anything has changed please put it back the way it was as this is not great for business
Kind regards
OV

Would this affect on asking questions on the topic page? Curious because I have queried about Dawg a couple times in about 6 months but it seemed it didn't appear on the wall so kinda felt like I was pissing in the wind :-)

The opportunity for comminication is as wide as it is long. Trades are not punted or promoted on here enough. By biggies themselves.

New to selling on LB and discovering more to this site everyday. Only just read this topic and it's very fascinating to say the least. At first I thought my account had some technical issues but I've now come to realise the wall hasn't approved of us yet. I wonder if this is the same reason our store doesn't have the images I uploaded when creating the listings?
