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did world war 2 merely stall an inevitable trend of fascism?

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http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/29/world/europe/rise-of-donald-trump-tracks-growing-debate-over-global-fascism.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=first-column-region&

When I 1st read this topic I thought it was silly but now Im reading it the New York Times

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Bolivar

And what does that tell you about the New York Times? That it's lying about Trump? Or is it just trying to mislead its readers by implying stuff that it has no evidence of... Do the same examination of other rumor-spreading fake news organizations and make your own determination, folks. See which ones allow readers to comment on their "stories" and articles. See which ones never present both sides of an argument. Decide which ones can be relied upon for actual news (all of it) and which ones actually suppress news.

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3pac

There is no news that can be relied upon this is why the reader needs to take in multiple sources and viewpoints.

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foster

i think its a really mega trend. fascism was a reaction to kingdoms turning into modern nations. this time populism is a result of modern nations turning into global pieces.

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regard Less

Yes and there's the industrial revolution and digital revolutions as waves underneath these.

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JahLegion

well put

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chelseabolt

Fascism isn't inevitable if people get off their asses and vote.

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all anx

What good is voting if the legislature is alfeady bought and sold?

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yagz

Even Eisenhower, the General who defeated fascism saw what would happen. He became the President of the US and devoted his farewell speech to a warning of the future he correctly saw.

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Paine's Pamphlets 1/10

Forget Ike, Benjamin Franklin saw what would happen after helping write the constitution. He saw it as a temporary document that would require re-writing.

"it is likely to be well administered for a course of years, and can only end in Despotism"

As if it to prove the words they have been suppressed since he wrote them.

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Bolivar

What's the source of that Franklin comment? I can't find it.

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Imoneverything

Its Franklin's Final Speach On The Constitution. What a guy, should be an inspiration for every bigga.

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3pac

Thanks, seems Paine is stretching the context a bit.

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wood 9.9/10

Ha this really looks funny now - people have since voted almost exclusively for fascism!

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http://www.nybooks.com/articles/2017/09/28/world-war-i-when-dissent-became-treason/

World War I was a fascist nightmare in the United States with Wilson and his cronies using it to attack all of their domestic enemies: African Americans, organized labor and immigrants. It was all documented by the media and no one cared. Helped us get where we are today as much as anything.

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Bigbum

Also what good is voting when the only choices are turds?

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oasis

thats the worst part, fascism has taken hold by democratic election nearly every time

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Bolivar

That's what happened in 2016, and it's a good beginning. More people are finding out that they've been lied to, and the liars are in full panic mode at this point.

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Bigbum

I thought ww2 was one of the peaks of fascism

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Camber

The NWO is Communist

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Bolivar

First thing to do is find out what "fascism" is. Most people are clueless about that. One excellent example of a fascist organization is Antifa (what an ironic name). Their goal is to shut down opposing ideas by force, and that's what fascist governments do (again, look up the word in the fucking dictionary). If you're going to accuse someone of being fascist, you need to show examples of fascist behavior. Guess who I'm vaguely referring to here...

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twigs237

Oxford Reference definition:

"An authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization.

The term Fascism was first used of the totalitarian right-wing nationalist regime of Mussolini in Italy (1922–43), and the regimes of the Nazis in Germany and Franco in Spain were also Fascist. Fascism tends to include a belief in the supremacy of one national or ethnic group, a contempt for democracy, an insistence on obedience to a powerful leader, and a strong demagogic approach."

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Camber

Some people wouldn’t know Communism if it locked them down in their homes, forced them to wear a mask and coerced them into an experimental medical procedure

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theStrokes

fascism is later stage communism, institutionalized corruption.

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JahLegion

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horseshoe_theory

sounds kinda like horseshoe theory

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Camber

https://gab.com/groups/4502

No it isn’t

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grits

ok throw in a little racism and hate where the communist idealism and naivete is and you're there.

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Camber

Show your working (prove it)
Btw Fascism was defeated in UK and in WWII it was defeated in Italy along with National Socialism in Germany. There is nothing Fascist about our world. The Communists and Capitalists (same thing) won WWII and they are in control.

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grits

The URL you posted is a sufficiently disgusting QED

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Camber

Oh dear, what a snowflake you are. The fact remains, nobody here has a clue about what Fascism is. This is how the Communists are winning, duh

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doc holiday

if nothing else a new approach to fascist propaganda would be appreciated.

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Camber

Where is the Fascist propaganda coming from?

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twigs237

Here is another definition of fascism, this one from Merriam-Webster dictionary.

"1) A political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition.

2) a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control."

The antidote to Fascism is Democracy.

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Camber

https://www.christianitydaily.com/articles/13341/20210921/cdc-and-who-redefine-vaccine-and-herd-immunity-to-manipulate-people-into-getting-the-jabs.htm

Another definition? How many are there, I wonder. Words can mean whatever people want them to mean, can they? No, they can’t.

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Camber

Democracy, LMAO. If you control the media, you can get the public to vote anyway you like. What was democratic about the Iraq War, or the bombing of Syria?

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twigs237

There are many parallels between the definitions. I'll break them down for you - national/racial-centric; autocratic; dictatorial; anti-democratic; demagogic.

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twigs237

Precisely. Democracy in the UK is flawed, at best for sure. Fascists know the first stage of seizing control of a nation is to take control of its media.
I'm unsure what you're trying to achieve on here - is it to rehabilitate the image of Fascism?
Perhaps you could explain to us what Fascism is.

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Camber

I’ve already provided a link to a resource where anyone can learn what it is. I’m still learning myself. Please show me which Fascists have taken control of the media. (Don’t waste your time, because they haven’t)

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twigs237

How am I going to learn about a complex political/cultural/social ideology and its historical/contemporary implications through a series of disembodied quotes and sexed-up photos of famous fascists?
Grow up, stop trolling & read some fucking books.

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twigs237

You misunderstand Camber - you're looking for a fight! I agreed with you, UK democracy is lacking. Historically, fascists took control of the media, to take control of a nation - see Germany, Italy & Spain.

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Camber

I’m not looking for a fight at all. It seems like you don’t know who controls the media. In 1933 all Germany did was to take back control of the media, from the thieves who stole it.

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twigs237

The Jews? Come on man, you're better that, I'm sure of it. Stop getting stoned & researching pro-fascist groups - not a good combo. Get stoned & listen to Forever Changes!

"Everything I've seen needs rearranging,
And for anyone who thinks it's strange,
Then you should be the first to want to make this change,
And for everyone who thinks that life is just a game,
Do you like the part you're playing?"

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Camber

https://www.jnet.sk/stranka/jnet/morske-pravo/Cestui%20Que%20Vie%20Trust.pdf

You now know that the MSM, Big Tech, Big Pharma and The Federal Reserve (to name a few) are not controlled by Fascists. I can research Fascism and listen to Forever Changes. If you don’t know what Fascism is, cool! But please stop pretending that you do. Have you read the Talmud? Did you know that this is Talmudic, are you even aware of it?

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twigs237

I'd suggest you can't be researching Fascism with any integrity. You're in complete denial of the basic definition of it.

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Camber

This thread is hilarious. Everyone thinks they know what Fascism is. Someone even thinks Antifa are Fascists. Clueless

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oasis

just as a sidebar, who is your favourite national socialist?

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Camber

Thomas Sewell. Does this mean everyone else’s definition of Fascism is correct? Btw anyone can be a National Socialist, it’s organic

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twigs237

You seem to be really struggling with words Camber, so here's a definition of Communism for you: "The belief in a society without different social classes in which the methods of production are owned and controlled by all its members, and everyone works as much as they can and receives what they need, or a social and political system based on this belief." From Cambridge Dictionary.

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Camber

I’m not struggling with words at all. I’m just not doing a ‘cut and paste’ and expecting other people to accept it. There’s a link above to a Fascism group on Gab. That’s the place to learn about Fascism. If you think they’re wrong, go and tell them.

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twigs237

No Camber, you won't learn about Fascism on ticktock. Read some books about the 30s

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Camber

Who mentioned Tiktok? Do you know what a strawman logical fallacy is?

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twigs237

I just meant to say that I believe your fascination with fascist revisionism is an internet concocted, social media thing - and it doesn't deserve to be engaged with seriously.
The historic Fascist governments of the world are responsible for the murder of millions - Jews, Roma, Slavs, communists, socialists, Africans, artists, queer folk, people with disabilities, I could go on.
The latter day followers of Fascism are responsible for thousands of violent street attacks & murders.
Anyone who would seek to sanitise Fascism as some sort of benevolent universal human law (as your Snap-chat link proclaims), or present Fascism as misunderstood and misrepresented - is deserving of ridicule, at the very least.
I'm an exponent of the European antifa approach to Fascism. Fascism is a violent ideology. And Fascists only understand violence, and do not deserve to be engaged with intellectually.

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Camber

You are spreading misinformation. You have been brainwashed. It happens.

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twigs237

Which bits are wrong? Provide evidence.

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Camber

Go to the group I posted above and post that shite, this isn’t the place for it. You are so ridiculously misinformed it actually hurts my head.

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twigs237

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x695nly

I've had a look at your group. It's sinister, revisionist, conspiratorial, paranoid. Fascist.
There is so much documentary evidence for the crimes I described above - you'd have to be a seriously blinkered "researcher" to ignore/deny.

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Camber

http://realdocumentaries.com/europa-the-last-battle-part-8-full/

Bullshit. If you think you can refute them, go in there and do it. You won’t because you can’t, you brainwashed muppet. I’ve had about 20 notifications over the last few days, all from you, ya freak. Did you actually just post a BBC documentary, are you on LSD? When you’re eating maggots in your pod, subject to the Chinese social credit score and only able to spend your allocated CBDC, just remember it was the Fascists who tried to stop them. Stupid goyim

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twigs237

I'm sorry for attempting to talk to you reasonably. It's telling that you're so triggered into rage by me pointing to a dictionary definition & documentary evidence from the war.
I just don't think Little Biggy should be a platform for Fascist links & memes. And I will continue to challenge you if you continue posting this poisonous content.
I attempted to appeal to your better nature, in the hope you were capable of intelligent thought/discussion. But you're clearly lost in this nasty maggot hole of paranoid imaginings.
I posted you a link to one of the great documentaries on the Second World War, made for ITV - it took decades to make, was an international effort, and is made up of interviews from people who were involved and witnessed the war, from many different countries.
You've responded with a film that amounts to a 2 hour political tirade, that contains not one interview, let alone an interview from anyone who was a part of 1939-45. Just a narrator telling you exactly what to think. And you want to talk about brainwashing?
If you want to dismiss The World at War series outright, because you've decided everything on mainstream television is "lies" - it is most certainly your loss. You have a Medieval mindset, obsessed with belief. (Belief is the death of intelligence, Robert Anton Wilson). You've only served to highlight how small-minded, cowardly and reactionary your mindset is - masquerading as a fearless truth-seeker.
Think for yourself. Take each programme on its own merits.
Don't listen to Love - they aren't for you.
Listen to Hate like Skrewdriver.