Instead of hand outs, maybe being given equal opportunity in the work place truly would be a better start. Just an example here but how come I see a white bloke in charge of black football teams but you’ll never see a black or any shade darker than a beach tan running an English football team.

The MP for my old constituency (dorest) is Richard Drax, he's still sitting on all the wealth and land his family acquired. He sees no problem with owning land thousands of slaves were murdered on. Dispicable person.

HONESTLY I USED TO BE ON THE FENCE ABOUT REPARATIONS COS ALTHOUGH THERE WERE GRAVE INJUSTICES DONE HOW DO YOU IDENTIFY WHO TO GIVE THE MONEY TO? AND THERE WERE AFRICANS WHO PROFITED TO WHERE DO THEY LAY? BUT THEN I HEARD GOVERNMENTS WERE PAYING FUCKING DESCEDENTS OF SLAVEOWNERS UP UNTIL 2015! SO CLEARLY REPARATIONS WAS NEVER THE ISSUE JUST WHO WAS TO GET EM!

I really like this.

All comments more or less are about the idea of reparation, and mostly I agree.

But its not about reparation despite the title, its about where to best direct a stimulus package. My Everyman understanding of the Covid downturn is that the UK exchequer has licensed uk banks to loan to pretty much anyone with a business no questions asked, money that is created in the moment of granting the loan.

Equally you could hand it out in the street or mail cheques to people whether they need it or not. Give it to the living heirs of slaves or give it to banks to hand out in executive bonuses? Who's gonna make the most stimulus with it?

Level the playing field

Governments hand out money its just a matter of who they give it to. In the USA they have handed money to banks and hedge funds via 0% loans.

I think reparations for stealing human beings is a better idea than this, the money will get spent stimulating the working economy rather just pumping up the stock market.

If your grandparents had personally enslaved people and you had a chance to do something for their grandchildren would you?

It's paying back a debt that financed the country for generations. If you can't see that I think maybe glasses.

But why is the US Federal Gov the plaintiff? They fought against slavery with everything they had, 100 years later they peacefully fought the South against segregation. I think something is owed but the feds are the good guys on this one.

Cool, where do I pick up my check?

Well I guess you're allowed to talk about this

Yeah it's an infinite loop of cat and mouse i reckon

It seems Tim Cook is taking it pretty seriously and I applaud him. Apple is in the position to help freedom in a way but no politician could ever accomplish because technology is the enabler of human progress.

I'm not so sure of this, technology is what allows all the surveillance to begin with. To take things to the extreme think of primitive people with no technology and the freedom to do whatever they want, put anything in their bodies, go wherever they please, etc.

This piece is worth listening to, the former head of anti terrorism efforts for the US gov is on Apple's side and besides the says everyone in government besides the FBI is too.

Lol he says he would simply hand the phone to the NSA

This guy actually compares the situation to the moral responsibility of nuclear scientists in the 1940s. I think this isn't quite a parallel not so much because of the stakes but because he is asking people to go beyond their jobs and become activists where as the 1940s guys (including Einstein) were petitioning existing leaders.

Those 40s scientists were up against something inevitable so they could only stall things a bit, this lot can actually enable.

You don't think twats stealing people's data is inevitable?