Who is going to patch up the injured lawyers?

Oh yeah? Well how are the doctors going to sue?

Two professions that should have a higher understanding of humanities, kickin the sh*t out of each other!

the oldest profession remains the most noble

Not %100 but. Don’t think she has always been a woman. Where did you go on holiday?

Well i'm of dual heritage (my dad was from the West Indies and my mum is English) so my 'British Bulldog' avatar and profile might upset some in this thread, but yeah, i'm proud of all of my heritage.

Racism is very ugly, and you know it when you experience it.

Pride in one's heritage is completely different.

Cheers. BB

Basically it derives from the same origins. There are certain laws of ethnic relations in history of humankind, such as:

1. law of percentage: lets say a black person somewhere in gothenburg or copenhagen would trigger an amused curiosity and the outpouring of sincere sympathy, however, if you "inject" immigrant workers up to the fateful threshold of 4-8 percent and you will already have a racial situation - the nature of social relationships changes, engendering ethnic tensions, global reflexes painful to describe. The more the percentage increases, the more class struggle transforms itself into racial confrontation. Basically, this percentage is sufficient to make racial discrimination appear spontaneously in people who previously believed itself wholesome and devoid of any racist sentiment.

2. The law of assimilability: If majority and the minority belong to the same large ethnic group (all are white, or all a asian), then assimilation occurs progressively. For example, Spanish or Portuguese workers despised in France not so long ago, integrated themselves into population within the space of one generation; same for descendants of corsicans and the poles during napoleonic era, same for bambara minority living in senegal. But if the ethnic and cultural gap is too big, tensions are exacerbated with time. Like African Blacks and Arabs find themselves in this situation in Europe. Coexistance basically becomes possible only in a truly Socialist state or a state that has adopted a high morality philosophy.

3. the law of distance: like two ethnic groups that are not fighting over the same living space or same market and occupy different territories separated by space can enter into normal relationships. Like that an alliance can be explained during world war 2 between hitlers germany and japan. or relationship of pretoria with israel state.

4. the law of phenotype: basically physical appearance. It would matter little tgat botha and zulu in africa have the same genotype (same genes in the chromosomes) and it would have no influence on their daily lives because their external features are so different.
Laws of class struggle according to history applies only to societies previously made homogeneous by violence. Funny, that the most modern nations actually went through this bestial struggles before (Americas, australia, new zealand, good part of asia, greenland, huge part of pacific, scandinavia, etc, etc).For example Blacks of Americas were brough over to work the land, while the indigenous races were being destroyed. So, the "more advanced" barbarious conquerors exterminated/drove out whole populations, devastated or abandoned productive forces they they simply did not know how to use. This specific law is one of my favourite... how spartan domination ended by crumbling particularly because of the great numeric weakness of their REAL citizens. Because their society consisting of spartan conquerors and lowly helots both belonged to the same large white-skinned 'race', ethnic differences became blurred and it allowed class differences appeared only in an economic sense.
Same goes for Rome and Carthage, Rwanda-Burundi, Francs and Gallo-Romans.
Have a look at the american immigration laws and how it progressed throghout 19-20 centuries. This law also gave birth to so called intra-european racism, etc.

We forget that the passage from a clan to a monolingual tribe and to ethnic group and to nationality historically was a result, a consequences of clans exogamy. It is still widely discussed by specialists. But it marked starting point of the current civilization.
Endogamy was prohibited and we, humans, just started fucking people from the outside kkk several neibourhing clans contracted marriage ties that led them eventually to speak same languages despite that their original idioms were different.
The number of clans to gather together to work a more or less powerful tribe didnt follow any rules and depended mostly on the fertility and extent of the lands occupied by the group. Thus was born nationality.

In the course of history, when two groups of people argued over a vital economic space, the slightest ethnic difference can be magnified, temporarily serving as a pretext for social and political cleavage: differences in physical appearances, colour of your passport, language, religions, morals and customs.

We forget that basically future generations must forget about the dead so that the conquering people can undergo a rebirth with an angelic consience.
Why do we almost idolise, for example, conquistadors, holy crusaders and vikings? Pillagers, rapists, murderers and worse.

Most of the things we learn and follow, most of the times, blindly, things we consider as truths and solid facts, the very foundation of our personal universes - it was predominantly build based on someones ideologies.

Books, that our kids and us read, are also written under certain circumstances, conditions, requirements, with certain motivations. Dictated by an ideology.

Sooo.... sorry for the massive message. It just questions like this trigger something inside me, something that i consciously try to understand and overcome. For before we are races or nationalities, boys or girls, gays or straight, we are humans.

Peace yo.

Interesting points. I just came across this forum and will make a contribution. Meanwhile, on the topic of Scottish Nationalism, I have myself proposed Independence For England! We English (whatever that means through consensus) vote in a referendum to dissolve the union of England and Scotland. Never mind what they want, how about what we want, which may be to separate from them, along with the subject nation of Wales. We'll have our own oven ready breakfast and our own national covid death toll, while we surrender the last shreds of our integrity to the fucking Yanks and the fucking Chinese whose government leaders wouldn't make the groove as a couple of Pox Doctor's clerks.

Please dont have the idea that all Scots want independence
. Plenty are and always will be happy to be part of the union. There is more at play than just Scottish Independence, certain elements see Scottish independence as a means to help another cause. Understand that Independence of Scotland is not the endgame for a lot of SNP supporters.

High Raskolnikov. Your post showed as a comment on mine so You're addressing me, then. I have no intention of stating anything about what Scots want. My point is that I consider an English Independence Referendum is incumbent on ourselves to determine our Englishness without the input of the other three nations. Devolution, revolution, phooey! We want ablution. Wash our hands of the lot of you. Do we? Who does? Has anyone got this underway? Sturgeon and Salmond? Something fishy about those two!

I certainly don’t need a referendum to establish my Scottishness.

I am British not Scottish or Welsh or Irish or English but British.
So the idea of England going on its own is kind of laughable.
I prefer this great country as one nation,I have lived all over UK so I class myself as British. Ever since devolved countries we had loads of petty arguments enough of the arguments and do there jobs.
The Scottish independence route will end up like n ireland scottish people are divided straight down the middle so can see issues battle grounds comes to mind bombings etc etc just like n ireland AND its not going to happen anyway thank god.:D
Or you english going be invaded of all the people that do not want there countries independent lol.

Plus the Queen will never allow it to happen she is still the most powerful lady in this country and can override any laws in the UK set by government it is in the small print when she signed it over to the government. She has her palaces all over the UK.

She wants to send to her son to America to answer for the crimes he is guilty as fk otherwise he would have gone over and answered there questions on very serious sex crimes.
Guilty as fk he is by dodging the request of the FBI and CIA law to himself hiding behind mummy he is.

I am British loud and proud !!!

I’m British and Scottish mate. Think it is possible to be both. I’m not interested in Independence and believe it will not happen and will be a disaster if it does. In Scotland Salmond courted a certain block vote and got it. That is what has got the snp to where they are. That and shortbread tin thinking. They will soon want to let over 14 s vote. As I said in another post, Scottish Independence is not the endgame for a lot of snp.

Just curious, what do you believe to be the SNP's ultimate goal?

I wouldn’t blame the English people if they started to see things this way but we are still all better as a union and I think you know this. Sturgeon and Salmond are just typical politicians mate who lying is a big part of the job description. There has been a huge change in Scotland in my lifetime where the working class vote has moved away from labour to the snp. Labour has shot themselves in the foot so many times but also the snp politics has changed. I have been on this earth a long time and the snp have changed so much. Sturgeon is still using her bloody daily briefing up here to try to indoctrinate the nation. I’m going to stop here as I am ranting.

British here too. I feel like the silent majority of my country are the same

Not English, then. To be born an Englishman is to win first prize in the lottery of life. That life being the infliction of Imperialism on 25% of the world's population. Nothing wrong with that, was there?

Cool. What were you born?

Obviously, not britain. Tiocfaidh ár lá.

Sturgeon's manifesto was just a wish list, impossible to accomplish. I don't want Scotland to leave. We may rib each other on things but I'd like to think we have each others back when things get tough. We live on the same island. Crazy to break up.

Wait do Scotts not have bangers and mash?

this bigga

Not necessarily, Scottish nationalism is an attempt to escape racism

good one, i guess that goes for any anti colonial movement like vietnam for example

It was a joke mate but fuck, Vietnam. Is that what you are comparing Scottish Independence to?

Sounds like something a Scottish nationalist would say.

lol. ok, i'll bite...

nationalism is a term for those with common interests as citizens of the same country working together for mutual benefit and/or pride.

racism is a hatred of one or more person/s where skin colour is the basis used for the defining attribute.

neither is mandatory last I heard.

Proper kettle of fish this one! but I couldn’t resist throwing my 2 cents in.

Racism is an inherent belief that one group are superior to another based purely on membership to said group; that for example being white would mean that you are superior to non-whites by virtue of your whiteness. Although this is of course the most common example, it’s important to remember that racism has been perpetrated by, and against, a multitude of groups such as the current situation in China with Uighur Muslims and so on.

Nationalism is the identification with ones nation and the desire to see that nation succeed. often, but not exclusively, to the detriment of other nations.

One can be a nationalist but not a racist, but I would argue that it’s quite rare to meet a racist who is not also a nationalist.

I don’t think nationalism is always a bad thing - we saw for example at the onset of COVID-19 in Europe a large degree of nationalism as all of these countries that are part of the Schengen Agreement suddenly conveniently ignored the treaty in order to shut their borders and protect their citizens (uselessly, as it turned out) against the spread of C19.

However, nationalist sentiment needs to be controlled carefully because the downside to it could be seen, you could argue, In the Capitol siege/riots on January 6th as nationalist fervour tends to spread and morph very rapidly and almost always ends in violence and almost always ends in Fascism

Sorry for the wall of text but this is such a fascinating topic!

Scotland's nationalist party don't want to exclude races, they want independence from another countries rule. It's not about racism.

Unless is the European Union.

a lot of nationalists aren't so much racists as exclusionary. they believe in a social contact that only exists amongst members. outsiders are not part of the deal.

Just like you would naturally have a preference for feeding your own family in your own home, before you concerned yourself with feeding anyone else.

This would not mean you hated other people, or didn't wish the best for them.

I think Nationalism is often confused with extreme Right wing ideologies, when it could be Left or Right really.

Sounds kinda like racism.

The national front! They were nationalists that says all you need to know!!!

Look into snp and the past. They have changed a lot.

Yes you could look into the SNPs distant past or alternatively you could look at what the Tories are doing right now as we speak under your very nose.
It is funny how a conversation about nationalism is related to the SNP when anyone with eyes can see that British nationalism is the one being pushed everywhere in Britain.
The SNP didn't spend 2 million quid on a set of blue curtains and two Union Jacks and it is not the SNP who are plastering everything with the Butcher's apron either!

Because we can change our nationality as it’s make believe. You cannot change your DNA which is real

Racism is necessarily exclusionary. But Nationalism isn't.

In general I am wary of nationalism, but there are times when it has achieved positives.

People have different views and ways of life, if you mix those people together our politics won’t work properly. I am not racist but I can see religion being a problem as there’s is a sense of blind ignorance they follow that cannot be challenged.

There seem to be a prevailing perspective of an individualistic view on what racism is, i.e. the hatred or superiority of another race, nation, or ethnicity, however this view is overly simplistic as racism is structural and systemic and is only dependent on the individual when their actions are supported by the larger system.
One can be xenophobic, discriminatory and/or prejudiced against others from other places without it being racism if they are not the dominant race/ethnicity/or culture.
Racism = power + prejudice. That is the current understanding and definition of racism in social sciences and some dictionaries (as with Merriam Webster, which was updated two or three years ago). That is not to say that racial prejudice or discrimination is allowable or tolerable. It's not. However to quantify both types of prejudice (the one that is solely individual and the one that is supported by systemic structures) as the same thing or equivalent is false.
One is an individual opinion and has no greater repurcussions than that person's world's or actions, the other however plays into a wider narrative of oppression that reinforces the structural oppression and contributes to and reinforces societal and structural discrimination.
Nationalism is different in several ways.
Firstly, pride in ones nation does not mean an inherent prejudice or discrimination against those that come from other nations (although all too often it does manifest in such a way).
Secondly, if those expressing nationalist sentiment are not the dominant authority over said nation, then it is not racism but discrimination and prejudice as they lack the power to manifest that discrimination through institutions or on a structural scale. This type of nationalism often manifests as a resistance to colonial and imperial forces. In those cases the nationalism is not being the of an ideological superiority or innate belief in the dominance of one nation over another, but rather a resistance to such.
Therefore nationalism and racism only become the same when said nation propogates their dominance and superiority over others while simultaneously systemically oppressing other nations or supporting existing structural oppression and prejudice.

https://www.dismantlingracism.org/racism-defined.html

The difference between racism and nationalism is about 3 joints!

Nationalism has more positive range for example promoting culture. Racism is usually associated with negative feelings about other races.

They both seem doomed if you ask me.

tldr its a tech problem :). i think that’s right

There have been attempts to make guns smarter. It seems they have been stymied by legislators that tried to make them mandatory before they even got on the market. Then the NRA got busy.

Guns are not the problem, they never have been. Why not start laying the blame where it belongs, with the people using a gun to kill and injure other people. A gun doesn’t kill or injure anybody unless a human being is pulling the trigger. Of course, the left wants you to believe everything would be flowers and sunshine if we only got rid of the mean, evil guns. You’re right about one thing, control. People are a lot easier to control if they can’t defend themselves. Of course that kind of logic is taboo for the left. Fear mongering and race baiting are the left’s weapons of choice. The left are the biggest racists on the planet. People forget that if not for the right, the civil rights act never would have made it to Johnson’s desk to sign into law. Who was opposed to it, most of the Democrats. There were active members of the KKK in congress and they were Democrats. Am l saying there are no racists on the right. Of course l am not, but the left would have you believe their shit doesn’t stink. It’s just sad that such a large group of people are fooled by their bullshit.

Humans aren't equipped physically or emotionally to comprehend the speed at which a gun can take a life and devastate the lives of *all* those involved.

It's not about left or right. It isn't about racist or not racist. It's about the value of human life and the callous destruction of it.

You are partially correct; Guns are not the problem…..the bullets are. It’s bullets that kill. Let the loons have/keep their guns. Just get rid of the ammo (not easy I know, but spring it on the population in a surprise move and watch the killings drop).

that was quite a good breakdown of their deep rooted bullshit lanky. hear hear

Dayam, why don't we think past guns, +!

Where is that the money maid by the Police, lawyers, Medical industries, air ambulance is what $4K a trip?

Why don’t you take another English grammar course. My 4 year old niece speaks and writes english better than yourself.

Because it's the only reason we still have a democracy. The country's fore fathers knew this. That's why they put it in the constitution. Fuck the living document bullshit. If you think things would be so great without guns, take a look at what's happened in the past. Stalin killed more of his own people than were killed during the Second World War. The only reason he was able to it was by disarming the population first. Same story with China and Cambodia. Chairman Mao loved committing genocide, to the tune of 40 million. Pol Pot did away with 2 million. What is the common denominator? One and all disarmed. If you think things would be so great if we think past guns, instead of looking at what happened when the people were disarmed. You need to look backwards, or better yet, go talk to some of those people. Oh wait, you can't. Dead men, women and children tell no tales.

A few bad actors don't prove your point. Look at Europe, the home of democracy. We don't have guns, our democracy is less under threat than in the states, we don't live in fear in our homes, we rarely have police shootings and we don't have countless gun crimes day in day out.

If there were no guns, how would the history of China, Cambodia, Russia, the US and countless others be different?

Non violence is the future.

They said the same thing about North Vietnam. Look at how that turned out. The same thing is happening right now in Afghanistan. If you’re fighting for something you believe in, anything is possible. You talked about the revolutionary war. It was the same situation. Our fore fathers believed their cause was just so they took up arms and went to war against the most powerful nation in the world at that time. We didn’t even have a standing professional army, yet we won our freedom when nobody would have thought we had any chance of defeating our foes. You also have to take into account if the army would go to war against the people who they swore to protect. If the order is given, l really doubt they would kill their fellow Americans.

Remember who was backing the 13 Colonies,,,, France and the French Army..... out of the goodness of their French hearts ? Your forefathers had the Catholic Spanish to the south, The Catholic French to the North. As Puritans, your forefathers would have taken up arms against their own shadows during those dangerous times. Today is not comparable to then,,, Your Bill of Rights is so outdated. Hence you have such terrible gun problems. My opinion and not a rant,,, Love to all x

homie if there is a paternity suit here it's getting served in london

It’s expensive. $500 for a grenade. Things like stingers are in the hundreds of thousands dollars range. It’s possible to get anything you want, even tactical nukes are on the table as well. I thought it was bullshit till l saw one. That’s right boys and girls, there are rogue nukes on American soil. You’re talking 10’s of millions of dollars for one of them After seeing it l thought someone would kill me for that very reason. I try to avoid thinking about it otherwise l’ll go off the deep end.

I think this would work - and it makes money - so why hasn't this happened?

That's cruel and unusual lasering.

No If Everybody had to ware a gun and soon the dumbest and t, most unrespectful humans will not pass there unwanted gene's on as many as they now do

You know you are right the only catch is that the dumbest are little children

I am wrong. You’re the end result of inbreeding, that’s the only way to explain why you’re this stupid.

So ignorant.

Sadly little more than just a name now

Phones that get less usable as the price rises, PC's that tell you what to do rather than the other way around.

Long since lost their way.

I mean, the link stuff is fair enough. Why would you pay to help people that went out of their way to fuck with your personal life? It's Gawker staff that want the program, the same staff that outed him for clicks. They can fuck right off frankly.

As for movies, I'm of the opinion that the greatest thing Steve Jobs did for the world wasn't Apple. It was Pixar, and that is his real legacy, still strong today.

yeah but steve understood media. cook is setting himself up as a villain and fulfilling the narrative they are setting up for him.

the guy is an operational genius but he doesn't understand content anymore than he does tech.

Yes this is an important thing to understand. People are interested in their own lives and a crazy ruler is just a form of entertainment in most people's lives. If they are effective with delivering quick economic results then they are good entertainers and are delivering some positives then fine - so why think more about this? It's demeaning to even take a fascist seriously so why bother doing so? In Germany we know why.

It is worrying that the far right parties are gaining to much support in Europe, and we should never take our eye off the ball and learn from history what can happen when you do...

ring really reminds me of the gestapo, they rolled almost exclusively through ordinary informants. people with fucked up biases are having their day.

The 1st thing Goebels did was put a device in everyone's home.

why do they keep designing things to look like hal? doesnt anyone remember how the movie ends?

I usually pass out way before the end

not to worry its the worst part

Any smart device

Germany became increasingly polarized with people espousing Marxism on one side and Law and Order on the other. This is exactly how it feels in America now.

LOL very interesting take on history there

Why the dystopian views are always referred to Nazism and not to Communism? They are basically the same shit, and Communism looks much more dangerous to me, because it "succeeded" for many more years, in many more countries, and for some reason has that glamorous look to so many idiots...

AND JUST LIKE IN NAZI GERMANY YOU HAVE PEOPLE BEING APOLOGISTS BECAUSE OF "COMMUNISM". AT LEAST IT WAS ACTUALLY FUCKING COMMUNISM BACK THEN AND NOT JUST WHATEVER IS NOT ON THE RIGHT

and fucking communism works wonders for the ugly

Watching the Plot Against America on Sky and it’s easy to see how Facism takes hold. Not dissimilar to Trump’s America.

shout out to royal mail while were at it :)

Our unwitting Santas. Dressed in red, carrying their sacks of goodies right to our doors.

Not all heroes wear capes! .....Not all heroes know they're heroes!

being part of this "lb underground" during a global pandemic, using bitcoin, watching the western world crumble, it has all felt like i'm in on some 90s sci fi scenario.

be careful what you wish for

I think we dont. All this crazy shit we see happening is directly linked to "we need more robots"..

Biggy been good to me.
I’ll be good to Biggy.

GF

Unfair comment really as all businesses have different situations and end games we know nothing about. It also kind of denigrates any vendor who felt the need to shut up shop for just a few days to suit their own circumstances.

lets not praise the strong because the weak might be offended.

I'll be sure to remind the next self employed person I meet that wanting to actually get paid for the work they do is a sign of weakness. Makes perfect sense that.

Cheers BB

Just an observation,but if I told my suppliers,back in the day,that "lm really sorry,but the money I owe you is tied up with these other people,but I can possibly pay you some time soon" I'd have my hands broken.
Dumb and ugly to throw down on anyone who was forced to shut down.

I had a bricky round yesterday to quote me for re-pointing my chimney. It's probably only half a days work but we agreed on £150 cash because it's a risky job getting up there.

After reading all these insightful comments on this thread i've decided i'm not going to pay him.

Instead, when he knocks on the door at the end of the job and asks for the agreed amount of money for the work he's done, i'm going to play some Kanye West, put my hand on his shoulder, look him straight in the eyes and say;

"listen mate, i'm not going to pay you now, you just need to be a bit stronger"

I'll let you know how that one pans out....

Cheers. BB

to continue your analogy i reckon this bricky has worked with you already, he sees the bank is closed and he does his fucking job rather than leaving it like a bitch.

Tell him you can't pay him because of a fire in China and watch his laughter as he knocks your chimney down. Takes him twice as long though, because he's a fucking good builder :)

Makes sense.
I messaged admin. They sent me a link to the pool. Which I could see for myself was jammed.
That was all the confirmation I needed, and was happy to carry on working.


GF

Totally understand your position buddy but I think the point was to try and push for Litecoin rather than a genuine fear of not being paid in the long run.

Not sure how much further we're getting with the introduction of another currency on here but its long overdue for everyone's benefit, customers and vendors.

Hope you're well and all the best.

Cheers BB

Hahaha! Beautiful analogy.

Vendors with dependents and families...

This ^ 100% childish comments and posts help no one.

thank you, we never doubted the LB admins for a moment over here.

when the pressure is on character really shows

not surprised to see most of the og biggaz stayed online, they've seen enough shit with bitcoin to be used to this.

Theyve been through a lot of profit too, bitcoin has skyrocketed and the losses don't compare to the gains.

It's only profit when you've been paid. P.S. really hope no vendor's ended up in a sticky situation with their supplies whilst waiting for money from lb.

Hindsight is 20/20.

lol what an idiot. Vendors started shutting up shop when several of em noticed payments were bouncing. On top of that within 48 hours of a few of us shutting up payments started coming in and much smaller than before. Easy to chat shit when you don't have any skin in the game,

Nail on the head!

Half these vendors here grow there own shit so don't feel any losses when things like this happen.

Vendors who outsource items, who pay set prices, these are the ones feelling it. Not these home growers lol.

I lost loads of profit margins due to the sheer drop in bitcoin value while waiting patiently for my bitcoin so I could cash it out before any more losses or even exchange to a stable coin.

Seems to be moving at last... my outstanding payments have landed

90s disaster movies. They are so fucking absurd. Congo, for example,has a gorilla in it that smokes and drinks martinis and everyone plays it completely straight. Theres another one about a volcano with Pierce Brosnan where granny's legs get boiled alive and bo-one reacts at all, not even the kids. Utterly batshit bonkers and hilarious at the same time

YES! These sound perfect! I crave funny things when I’m stoned!

Hey Ethicallyliving,

Hot Water Comedy Club on YouTube is hilarious, one comedian named Paul Smith has us in stitches every time!

Check it out if you want a laugh.

One Love
-SMONKEY

I tell you what, I nearly had to phone myself an ambulance after watching the new series of Brooklyn 99. Not sure if you have watched it before (Netflix) but it is hilarious when straight, never mind when stoned. There is one particular episode in the new series that set me off and I could not breathe. I'm sure there is a thread kicking about on here about this topic. There are some great suggestions on there. Also, Tik Tok is always a good laugh.

Ah great minds! Thanks for sharing!

I need something new to watch!