Of course they didn't follow it up, no way they could make a charge stick, anyone could have ordered that for you. 'Really officer? I wander which one of my daft mates thought it would be a good idea to do that? I'll have stern words with my homies, don't want no one sending that stuff to me..' etc etc..

They are also not really interested in getting a customer - its the suppliers they want if they want anyone.

Sorry your misses got scared though, I'd have to do some mighty sweet talking if the boys in blue hassled my wife on our doorstep :)

Good your back, stay safe!

Yeah exactly, they were just ticking a box I'm guessing. But I do love the excuse there, it's not claiming ignorance, but a nice plausible story.

Yeah, we can't become citizens here for another 2 years... so she was SUPER SUPER pissed that I might have jeopardized that situation... so yeah, I wasn't the favorite person for a while.

Which vendor
Was it

Not one that's on here anymore, doesn't seem they ever took off... shame, the bud wasn't bad, was grown by him etc.

Not sure how I missed this topic mate, that blows man. Did anything come of this? Have you still been ordering stuff?

Thankfully nothing came from it, but what did come from it is a pissed off wife who isn't allowing me to order bud online lol. All the convincing I had to do with her on this being safe is out the window =/

But now with the lockdown... I might not have a choice but to get some again haha.

Do my eyes deceive me!? It can't be... haha welcome back from the hiatus buddy, good to see your name.

Let this be a timely reminder to all LB sellers: Stealth, stealth, stealth is the most important thing, above all other factors.

No stealth = No wealth.

Opinions vary, but I vote for confusion, politeness and ultimately silence. The burden of proof is on them.

Very best of luck Epix. For what it's worth I think this will blow over and be forgotten about, but give it some time.

Also you never know, it could be about a stolen bicycle or local domestic dispute. Keep us updated.

curious what precautions people use for stealth buying.? eg browser used, vpn used.? tnks

I know I said last update last time... however we are now 3 weeks from the original knock, still nothing.

I'm going to guess they aren't coming back at this point, so that's a HUGE weight off my shoulders. Hoping I'll be able to make a comeback here and start doing reviews and such again. Really missed my little biggars =(

Man, you're missed here - fuck the feds, if they had any real case or issue with you they would have been back - did they actually say anything to let you know it was about the weed or could it have been for something completely unrelated man??

Hey bud, yeah I miss this place too, damn shame. Wife isn't super excited about me buying again, but hopefully with time we can fix that =)

But my wife answered the door. She saw they had a mail parcel in an evidence bag... so we are assuming. I'm not ordering anything else illegal, so... I can't think of what else they would have been here about tbh.

But yes, still no cops. I still have about a half O left of all the massive stocks I had been collecting... so I'll be looking to cop (no pun intended) again soon.

You'll be fine to order again man, from trusted sources only though man like I'm doing, if you can get it past the Mrs that is, that's the real mission lol

Yo E - Ah got you man, so it weren't the drive by or the bank heist you did earlier in the year and forgot about or nothing then lol...

Ah, bless the women, they are what keeps us all upright and moving forward eh..ha ha... I can understand that man, must have been a shocker for her..

Given what's happening right now, think we can safely say it's very likely the whole case will disappear into the winds of time now...they have already spent too much time/money on it by coming round once!

Ah sweet dude, welcome back to the ordering decision nightmares!! Loads of choice on here at the moment - not sure how post is going to start treating us in the coming weeks but yeah, you know the squads on here, you know who packs the super-stealth... peace E

Yeah, I figure I'm sorted. Even without this absolute madness we are living in now I'd have been fine. I know the good ones, hopefully I'll be back to ordering in no time =)

Last update on this until something actually happens.

Cops knocked up on Monday... it's now Saturday. Still haven't come back.

Here's hoping you never have to update this thread E. Good luck man.

How did it go?

so far a bunch of nothing... not sure what to think.

Don’t think, forget about it and deal with it when you need to

Thank you all for the feedback guys, I do appreciate it.

No show from the cops for a second day in a row... not sure what to think at this point. My buddy says he doubts they'll ever come back.

From what I am able to gather, this is a package with like 2g sample pack that got lost in the mail about a month ago or so... I'm really confused as to why they are even bothering to stop by in the first place tbh....

Damn Epix. Just catching up on it all now mate. I was wondering where you got to. Sorry you been put in this situation, it’s my worst nightmare, especially with the straight mrs thing. The cops should be pretty occupied with corona, short staffing etc. Keep us posted and Good luck mate.

looks like they picked the wrong bigga to fuck with :) glad youre ok and thanks for updating us.

Yeah man...why??? I can't believe that they can actually dedicate resources to this kind of thing...seeing as they give 'cannabis' warnings in most boroughs which mean jack shit you would think they could just send you a letter or something! Must be shit just waiting not knowing if they will come back or not...

Ah man, keep us posted, heads want to know that the E to the pix is in the clear, one love man, fuck the feds.

Haha thanks! No cops yesterday either... I’m guessing they were just checking a box and wont be back. Hope so anyway =)

strength bigga never forget you are right. thanks for absorbing this one for the rest of us.

Ah shit man...that's proper shit man...think it's going to get a few peeps on the edge of their chairs when the door goes for the next few weeks, been a few packs go missing as of late it seems...

Yeah, as discussed and surmised when I was pondering a (still...) missing pack last week I can't see that they can really do too much - I suspect that they are reaching even for a 'possession' charge if you have never even possessed it... obviously there are archaic rules in regards to use of the postal system etc but honestly... surely the feds and the courts are too busy for this shit?...

Obviously they don't have a warrant or they would already have been in and taken ya stash!! Looks like they just want to give you a stern telling off?...

Best I can say is what I intend to do if it happens.... invite them in for tea, explain how it is so much safer (and better!!) for me to purchase weed on the internet than in a car park and apologise for the archaic laws that require them to visit me and establish that I am indeed, not a society threatening criminal of any sorts...

Panda has suggested a mean looking ferret to hold during the process. I think this would help but I'm short on ferrets. And money. I spent all my money on dope. On Lb lol...

But, my underlying point I guess is that I have always found politeness and apologies go a long way with the feds...they just want to feel like they are in charge isn't it.... I plan to go yes sir I did order the weed, no sir I can't tell you where from, yes sir I will never do it again, no sir I promise....

Soon as the mother fuckers leave I will 100% make another order for NDD for at least a half oz. Fuck the feds. High til I die.

Sorry you got to sit and deal with it though man, keep us posted brother.

And yeah I think either way epix plays it, it should be okay.
I agree with you shed politeness does go a long way, they were more interested in playing with my dogs than having a go at me really after the first couple of minutes lol

100% support the holding of angry ferret.

I know peeps are saying this is dumb, but it worked for Panda. I was thinking of basically leveling with them. I have a few different scenarios I’m ready to play, depending on what kind of sense i get from the feds.

Makes a lot of sense man...if the pack is addressed in your name (as it should be) then denial is just going to look pretty silly to a seasoned babylon...

On the other hand, an apology and an explanation that buying weed on the internet saves you exposure to all sorts of negativity encountered with buying weed 'on the street', along with a cup of tea, will likely keep them much more malleable...

Also, you don't want to offend their detective skills and get them all into trying to prove too much... then they would want to start looking for more evidence... never great...

Greet them with a smile. Give them tea. Say sorry. Say Bye. Give them the bird. Hit Lb for a celebratory NDD?...

haha, truth. I'm usually a good judge of character. I'll see what kind of lads they are. If they are out to bust asses or just being responsible cops. I used to live in the US... so I know a lot about shit cops lol

this is absurd don't say a fucking word full stop.

Uk?

Yuuuuuup.

Hold your wrist out

Denying it may go against you, say “I don’t know what to say” repeatedly lol

Assume it’s only a wee or you wouldn’t be asking this question

I'd claim ignorance. No order history so they can't prove you purchased it. You're not responsible for the contents of a parcel, even if your name is on it. They're not gonna waste more time trying to prove otherwise. They probably just have to follow up on it, tick the box

Just deny all knowledge all buddy and say you know nothing of the parcel or the sender and it was sent to the wrong address. After all they have no proof other than the package itself

hi thanks for your answer, actually now that u say i looked at the fee and it's 0 ! even on 2.50$.

i tried applyin a customized fee and it's 3 sat/byte for reg and 23 for priority but still gives me "insufficient funds"...shame

If it shows in the total but won't let you send and is coins you bought from the site itself. Then its likely in what they call your 'BTC Trading Wallet'.
Go to send and the from the drop down select 'BTC Trading Wallet' if it shows any inside that send to your main wallet.

It will only allow you to send to your main wallet anyway.

Hope this was helpful I had the same issue before.

hi i just checked and they are in the main wallet. the trade wallet shows 0. anyways thanks for your reply

with blockchain now once you have bought the bitcoin you have to transfer it into the other wallet to be able to send it, this is because blockchain used to use coinify for bitcoin purchases whereas now the 2 companies have split

I have found buying bitcoin through coinbase then sending that to blockchain wallet is cheaper on fees also

Hi my coin are in the main wallet and were not purchased on Blockchain. Thx though

There have been attempts to make guns smarter. It seems they have been stymied by legislators that tried to make them mandatory before they even got on the market. Then the NRA got busy.

Guns are not the problem, they never have been. Why not start laying the blame where it belongs, with the people using a gun to kill and injure other people. A gun doesn’t kill or injure anybody unless a human being is pulling the trigger. Of course, the left wants you to believe everything would be flowers and sunshine if we only got rid of the mean, evil guns. You’re right about one thing, control. People are a lot easier to control if they can’t defend themselves. Of course that kind of logic is taboo for the left. Fear mongering and race baiting are the left’s weapons of choice. The left are the biggest racists on the planet. People forget that if not for the right, the civil rights act never would have made it to Johnson’s desk to sign into law. Who was opposed to it, most of the Democrats. There were active members of the KKK in congress and they were Democrats. Am l saying there are no racists on the right. Of course l am not, but the left would have you believe their shit doesn’t stink. It’s just sad that such a large group of people are fooled by their bullshit.

that was quite a good breakdown of their deep rooted bullshit lanky. hear hear

Humans aren't equipped physically or emotionally to comprehend the speed at which a gun can take a life and devastate the lives of *all* those involved.

It's not about left or right. It isn't about racist or not racist. It's about the value of human life and the callous destruction of it.

Totally, if you want gun control invent it.

tldr its a tech problem :). i think that’s right

Yes but some tech, its lasted for centuries you know and thats with lots of R&D money.

Dayam, why don't we think past guns, +!

Because it's the only reason we still have a democracy. The country's fore fathers knew this. That's why they put it in the constitution. Fuck the living document bullshit. If you think things would be so great without guns, take a look at what's happened in the past. Stalin killed more of his own people than were killed during the Second World War. The only reason he was able to it was by disarming the population first. Same story with China and Cambodia. Chairman Mao loved committing genocide, to the tune of 40 million. Pol Pot did away with 2 million. What is the common denominator? One and all disarmed. If you think things would be so great if we think past guns, instead of looking at what happened when the people were disarmed. You need to look backwards, or better yet, go talk to some of those people. Oh wait, you can't. Dead men, women and children tell no tales.

A few bad actors don't prove your point. Look at Europe, the home of democracy. We don't have guns, our democracy is less under threat than in the states, we don't live in fear in our homes, we rarely have police shootings and we don't have countless gun crimes day in day out.

If there were no guns, how would the history of China, Cambodia, Russia, the US and countless others be different?

Non violence is the future.

It’s expensive. $500 for a grenade. Things like stingers are in the hundreds of thousands dollars range. It’s possible to get anything you want, even tactical nukes are on the table as well. I thought it was bullshit till l saw one. That’s right boys and girls, there are rogue nukes on American soil. You’re talking 10’s of millions of dollars for one of them After seeing it l thought someone would kill me for that very reason. I try to avoid thinking about it otherwise l’ll go off the deep end.

They said the same thing about North Vietnam. Look at how that turned out. The same thing is happening right now in Afghanistan. If you’re fighting for something you believe in, anything is possible. You talked about the revolutionary war. It was the same situation. Our fore fathers believed their cause was just so they took up arms and went to war against the most powerful nation in the world at that time. We didn’t even have a standing professional army, yet we won our freedom when nobody would have thought we had any chance of defeating our foes. You also have to take into account if the army would go to war against the people who they swore to protect. If the order is given, l really doubt they would kill their fellow Americans.

Where is that the money maid by the Police, lawyers, Medical industries, air ambulance is what $4K a trip?

Why don’t you take another English grammar course. My 4 year old niece speaks and writes english better than yourself.

No If Everybody had to ware a gun and soon the dumbest and t, most unrespectful humans will not pass there unwanted gene's on as many as they now do

I am wrong. You’re the end result of inbreeding, that’s the only way to explain why you’re this stupid.

So ignorant.

You know you are right the only catch is that the dumbest are little children

I think this would work - and it makes money - so why hasn't this happened?

That's cruel and unusual lasering.

I was cruel and unusually lasered and my bush still aches.

Is it paranoid if I think my remote control was hacked and they're lazering me right now?

Its a problem as old as computing itself: garbage in, garbage out. The legacy data is predicated on racist policies that themselves go back to castes and slavery.

Mine's showing "partially paid" as well, even though I paid MORE than the asked price. Not the first time, either.

I use BTC.com. It was a $64 order, and at the time it was sent, the value had gone up to $67.66. I always have more in my wallet than I'm sending, so the fees come out of the balance. In this case, it's a new vendor and they haven't replied, so I'm assuming I got scammed. The vendor's name is Valleyheat. The vendor I was using apparently shut down, and Valleyheat's items page was identical so I assumed they changed management. We'll see.

send the seller the blockchain url anf that will suffice

Hi Escrow, I am having similar problems sent the correct amount but it says I have only partial payment short by 0.0001. How do I send blockchain url ? Noob too to this, and do not want look a idiot on my 1st payment lol

You look pretty smart to us, and also caring. What wallet/exchange are you using?

Hi, Thanks the pic makes me laugh because my son wouldnt stop laughing cause it wouldnt stop heeehawwwwing lol
I am using bitcoin wallet
Thanks for help too.
Great invention and I am surpirsed I have not come here sooner :)

The wallet/exchange should make it clear what transaction fees (bitcoin network fees) are being deducted, you need to add that amount to your payment. Many wallets make this easy to do. Trivial amounts will usually be forgiven by your seller but could likely cause a delay.

I have written to the seller explaining for example item was 0.0093(edited forgot a 0) it says I sent 0.0093(forgot a 0 edited) in my wallet but then it says I sent partial payment of 0.00929999(forgot a 0 edited). Sent him copy and paste of the amount i sent and I am totally new to this service so copy paste prob not the best evidence,and just need to know what future buys what to do. How do I add the amount thats missing and how much is missing in my example,? Maths I am hopeless at. All I can do is dispute ?

Selling is a little tough right now but I could rent you some

I was in a awful cheap hotel once with no toilet paper. Needed a poo. Either i wiped my arse on the only towel in the bathroom, or used the thin pages of the Gideon Bible in the bedside table. I'm not going to admit which one i used, but it's not a situation i ever want to be in again...

at least tell us which testament

lol

A shop near my area was trading pizzas for 6 packs!!

i wonder how many rolling papers that takes

Sacrifice a facecloth

you havent seen his face ;)

I’d rather have a dirty face over a dirty arse lol

I don’t use facecloths anymore after that last time I mixed the two up

i have to admit...that did make me chuckle :)

:D

Well i'm of dual heritage (my dad was from the West Indies and my mum is English) so my 'British Bulldog' avatar and profile might upset some in this thread, but yeah, i'm proud of all of my heritage.

Racism is very ugly, and you know it when you experience it.

Pride in one's heritage is completely different.

Cheers. BB

Basically it derives from the same origins. There are certain laws of ethnic relations in history of humankind, such as:

1. law of percentage: lets say a black person somewhere in gothenburg or copenhagen would trigger an amused curiosity and the outpouring of sincere sympathy, however, if you "inject" immigrant workers up to the fateful threshold of 4-8 percent and you will already have a racial situation - the nature of social relationships changes, engendering ethnic tensions, global reflexes painful to describe. The more the percentage increases, the more class struggle transforms itself into racial confrontation. Basically, this percentage is sufficient to make racial discrimination appear spontaneously in people who previously believed itself wholesome and devoid of any racist sentiment.

2. The law of assimilability: If majority and the minority belong to the same large ethnic group (all are white, or all a asian), then assimilation occurs progressively. For example, Spanish or Portuguese workers despised in France not so long ago, integrated themselves into population within the space of one generation; same for descendants of corsicans and the poles during napoleonic era, same for bambara minority living in senegal. But if the ethnic and cultural gap is too big, tensions are exacerbated with time. Like African Blacks and Arabs find themselves in this situation in Europe. Coexistance basically becomes possible only in a truly Socialist state or a state that has adopted a high morality philosophy.

3. the law of distance: like two ethnic groups that are not fighting over the same living space or same market and occupy different territories separated by space can enter into normal relationships. Like that an alliance can be explained during world war 2 between hitlers germany and japan. or relationship of pretoria with israel state.

4. the law of phenotype: basically physical appearance. It would matter little tgat botha and zulu in africa have the same genotype (same genes in the chromosomes) and it would have no influence on their daily lives because their external features are so different.
Laws of class struggle according to history applies only to societies previously made homogeneous by violence. Funny, that the most modern nations actually went through this bestial struggles before (Americas, australia, new zealand, good part of asia, greenland, huge part of pacific, scandinavia, etc, etc).For example Blacks of Americas were brough over to work the land, while the indigenous races were being destroyed. So, the "more advanced" barbarious conquerors exterminated/drove out whole populations, devastated or abandoned productive forces they they simply did not know how to use. This specific law is one of my favourite... how spartan domination ended by crumbling particularly because of the great numeric weakness of their REAL citizens. Because their society consisting of spartan conquerors and lowly helots both belonged to the same large white-skinned 'race', ethnic differences became blurred and it allowed class differences appeared only in an economic sense.
Same goes for Rome and Carthage, Rwanda-Burundi, Francs and Gallo-Romans.
Have a look at the american immigration laws and how it progressed throghout 19-20 centuries. This law also gave birth to so called intra-european racism, etc.

We forget that the passage from a clan to a monolingual tribe and to ethnic group and to nationality historically was a result, a consequences of clans exogamy. It is still widely discussed by specialists. But it marked starting point of the current civilization.
Endogamy was prohibited and we, humans, just started fucking people from the outside kkk several neibourhing clans contracted marriage ties that led them eventually to speak same languages despite that their original idioms were different.
The number of clans to gather together to work a more or less powerful tribe didnt follow any rules and depended mostly on the fertility and extent of the lands occupied by the group. Thus was born nationality.

In the course of history, when two groups of people argued over a vital economic space, the slightest ethnic difference can be magnified, temporarily serving as a pretext for social and political cleavage: differences in physical appearances, colour of your passport, language, religions, morals and customs.

We forget that basically future generations must forget about the dead so that the conquering people can undergo a rebirth with an angelic consience.
Why do we almost idolise, for example, conquistadors, holy crusaders and vikings? Pillagers, rapists, murderers and worse.

Most of the things we learn and follow, most of the times, blindly, things we consider as truths and solid facts, the very foundation of our personal universes - it was predominantly build based on someones ideologies.

Books, that our kids and us read, are also written under certain circumstances, conditions, requirements, with certain motivations. Dictated by an ideology.

Sooo.... sorry for the massive message. It just questions like this trigger something inside me, something that i consciously try to understand and overcome. For before we are races or nationalities, boys or girls, gays or straight, we are humans.

Peace yo.

Scotland's nationalist party don't want to exclude races, they want independence from another countries rule. It's not about racism.

lol. ok, i'll bite...

nationalism is a term for those with common interests as citizens of the same country working together for mutual benefit and/or pride.

racism is a hatred of one or more person/s where skin colour is the basis used for the defining attribute.

neither is mandatory last I heard.

Not necessarily, Scottish nationalism is an attempt to escape racism

good one, i guess that goes for any anti colonial movement like vietnam for example

a lot of nationalists aren't so much racists as exclusionary. they believe in a social contact that only exists amongst members. outsiders are not part of the deal.

Just like you would naturally have a preference for feeding your own family in your own home, before you concerned yourself with feeding anyone else.

This would not mean you hated other people, or didn't wish the best for them.

I think Nationalism is often confused with extreme Right wing ideologies, when it could be Left or Right really.

The national front! They were nationalists that says all you need to know!!!

Good question. If a seller has a pgp key the option comes up on the address form. But I think it's impossible to tell who has a key until then.

If you find a seller you want to use that doesnt have a key send them a message, you will be doing them a favor.

All I've seen so far is the "save this address using independent security" which seems vague.
It would be much better to just have a single space to input a block of text instead of the address form, allowing people to input a PGP encrypted message.

OK I found one seller with a PGP option and I see that what I described above is what you get when you use that option.
I'm surprised more people aren't using PGP here, it's pretty essential in my opinion.

It's a shame because not using it is pretty much a deal breaker for me, I only just discovered this place. I haven't seen any mention of using bitcoin tumblers either. I think a lot of folks here probably think bitcoin is more anonymous than it truly is.

I agree, would prefer to use PGP and have found one seller using it. Another one I want to order from hasn't got it, so then what to do??!

I hear you but the fact is that if you chose ANYWHERE over this place the BEGINNING of bitcoin becuase they had more pgp sellers or no js or whatever, you would have lost. Do it now and I will bet on the same outcome.

It’s 720 for me... am! Coffee and 25mg gummy before drive to work sets me up nicely for day!

I like to use CBD to cut THC intake and de-stone for fam/chill so I'd say 620 (1820).

Yes twice neither time my fault both sat at light and got hit up the Harris one of them the driver hadn’t even cleared his iced window

i took out a bird (of the avian variety) whilst driving (stoned). it was a being wanker and had it coming. however, that was a conscious choice...

lolol!

Do a lot of driving stoned myself, never had any issues. The last time I had an issue was when me and a friend rented a hotel room at like... 18 I think. We had an ounce of some weird ass weed we needed to get rid of... smoked the whole ounce through the night, and then I tried to drive home and when I pulled out of the hotel I was driving on the wrong side of the road (was the middle of the night with no cars out).

Oops... but I quickly figured that out and got back in the right lane haha.

Totally Right up to Fast and Furious 4