Yes but maybe more like the Rise of Narcissism

Yes this is an important thing to understand. People are interested in their own lives and a crazy ruler is just a form of entertainment in most people's lives. If they are effective with delivering quick economic results then they are good entertainers and are delivering some positives then fine - so why think more about this? It's demeaning to even take a fascist seriously so why bother doing so? In Germany we know why.

It is worrying that the far right parties are gaining to much support in Europe, and we should never take our eye off the ball and learn from history what can happen when you do...

They are pretty much the last white countries and see the end is coming.

They gotta remember what ol dirty said

Just a final note to all, I’m sick to the back teeth of this stupid argument. Won’t being reading anymore or posting anymore about it. Just saying Pablo is a top vendor who has some great organic weed at a great price and I’m sure he doesn’t need this headache. If you don’t want the baccy don’t buy it.

Just adding my view on this as eggsta said if you don't want to buy it then don't.. I mean ye tobacco not good for you but I mean it's legal and really not that big of a deal.. If people want to smoke then let them, I'm sure there are people that look down on every one that smokes weed and thinks you should stop are you gonna? Probably not. Is it really any different?

Go ahead and kill yourself or be greedy and make money off it. Just don't do it here.

No idea what your problem is? It’s baccy kill yourself or be greedy? I choose neither, if someone wants to buy it cheaper then the shop then they can

Do no harm - says when you register here
Harmful as fuck - says it right on the cigarette box

This is the packaging from a cannabis product I bought recently.

Sorry but it’s the only argument. If the whole reason for nominating it for termination is because it’s harmful, then unless you want to delude yourself, you must admit that the main product for sale on this site also has the potential for harm.

I wouldn’t want cannabis banned for sale on that basis. I just want to live and let live, and dearly wish others would too.

Let's follow this logic though (and it is logical) everything has the potential to be used harmfully, even oxygen and water. Everything has the potential to be used harmlessly heroin, pcp, and crack are all safe if used carefully.

I think "do no harm" is a great rule but it requires determination and judgment and that's what this voting is for. It will always be a judgment and unlike IRL it isnt enforced by violence or kidnapping, it's just a matter of inclusion and exclusion. even then it's not so harsh, little biggy is a monopoly on nothing and impedes no one.

There are a LOT of folks with cancer here, people that discovered cannabis as a treatment for the tobacco that is killing them. To me that's why it just doesn't fit in here.

Conflating cannabis with tobacco is a ridiculous fallacy and really unworthy of this community on several levels.

That said at least you are presenting some evidence in an otherwise emotional argument and that IS worthy :)

No it says smoking is harmful, any hot vapour in your lung isn’t natural? But yer you see what you want

Yeah I’m gonna agree with you there Laughing Grass, only just saw this topic and yeah I understand the backlash of selling tobacco on LB, but pretty much everyone who I know that smokes weed smokes with baccy, especially in the UK. I personally don’t think it should be taken down like Pablo said it’s not fucking crack or hard drugs it’s tobacco, if the corner shop can sell it why can’t Pablo? I mean if you wanna buy it then go ahead, but you shouldn’t try and stop a seller from selling tobacco. He’s got a good rep and it’s tobacco not hard drugs like the other things I’ve seen on LB recently like fucking coke or ecstasy. If you wanna buy it that’s your choice, but like I said earlier Pablo is selling his goods here alongside his weed and they both mix together perfectly. No-one’s forcing anyone to buy it so I say let it stay.

It's simply because we are better than this.

Thank you, good community comment much appreciated

If you don’t want to smoke it then don’t, but to actually nominate it for termination is ridiculous nanny state type shit. Pathetic motion in my opinion considering the harms of cannabis are not fully known, but hey that’s your choice to take it isn’t it.

The nanny state is what's going to take care of your cancered ass after you burden it. Keep it weedy and stay alive.

No that would be the national health service, a service paid for through the taxpayer, one of those being me. I suppose you live in a sterile environment, not having children, not using any educational/social services or carrying out any action with the potential of creating a cost for the taxpayer. You know it’s highly probable that someone won’t agree with everything you do. Not defending smoking, but that’s not what this is about. People who want to try and win this argument have spun it into an argument over whether smoking is good or bad rather than it being a question of freedom of choice, however, id refer everyone to the main topic question. It doesn’t ask is smoking good or bad does it.

That’s almost £25 in the corner shop, is less then half price

that excess profit goes towards paying victims cancer bills, whatchu kicking in son?

Can everyone vote this nomination down please? It’s baccy not crack jesus

Exactly, there’s people in here selling ecstasy ffs

Where?

Crack Jesus - now theres a name

Made me giggle

There is a lot of fun shit that's less harmful than tobacco Id like to see that here and this gone. No disrespect to Pablo!

You shouldnt even be asking bot. NICOTINE = HARM LEARN!

Nicotine is not anymore harmful than coffee if you actually read real facts, it also has many benefits just google benefits of nicotine, TAR KILLS you not nicotine, 30mins at the BBQ gives you more carcinagines than 2weeks passive smoking. Candle smoke is more dangerous than cigarette smoke. How do you think most people roll joints in uk, with tobacco. wish I could afford to smoke pure green but until price of weed drops it ain’t gonna happen so this is a useful item.

Just to clarify I said nicotine, nicotine also helps prevent Parkinson’s disease, and helps symptoms of ibd and ibs. NICOTINE not smoking

Real facts? You sound like one of the tobacco adverts from the 1950's. I really think you would benefit from researching tobacco harm. Tobacco contains over 600 ingredients, which when burnt can release over 7000 chemicals. So tar and nicotine are only a very small piece of the picture.

It is one of the most extensively studied substances and is widely accepted as one of the most harmful. If you would like, I can cite you literally thousands of studies proving beyond any doubt that tobacco is extremely harmful.

Yes, people do use it; but that doesn't mean it needs to be sold on here. We should be setting an example with LB that the cannabis community is a caring and responsible one and is all about harm prevention.

Wow back it off buddy, I replied to a comment that said nicotine=harm, which in my researched(I used to work in a tobacco factory) opionion is bullshit. Yes SMOKING causes harm death and lists of other nasty nasty things but it’s not the nicotine that does it. I agree smoking is real bad for you but realistically most people I know who smoke weed smoke tobacco, and to pay £25 to a shop with most of it tax that the government is gonna blow out there ass then I would rather give pablo my coins.

What is a tobacco factory? How does this make you an expert on nicotine? There is a ton of non-controversial evidence that its harmful.

Not saying I’m an expert but maybe a little more informed than say someone who didn’t work in a tobacco factory. A tobacco factory is somewhere where tobacco is processed for production of cigarettes. The tobacco is first bleached of as nicotine and the nicotine you actually smoke is produced in a lab so it’s dosage can be accurately controlled. The nicotine you smoke in cigs is actually a freebase nicotine which is purée and far more additive than the natural nicotine in tobacco leaves. AND AFAIN I DID NOT SAY IT WASNT HARMFULL, just a lot more common stuff is equally harmful if not more, and I’m sick of self righteous non smokers who think they are better than smokers just is they don’t partake. And if you want I’ll show you studies to show NICOTINE can help prevent Parkinson’s disease, IBS and others,

Word. I don't know what's more depressing, seeing the cigarettes or seeing lies on behalf of cigarettes.

That’s not true at all, 600 ingredients producing 7000 chemicals? Show me where that is from?

Nicotine is associated with cardiovascular disease, possible birth defects, and poisoning. In vitro studies of nicotine have associated it with cancer. Step up and buy some more weed bigga its cheaper than a funeral.

Lie about smoking? Can you cite one major study that has concluded tobacco isn't extremely harmful? I actually think I've lost some brain cells reading your posts.

Well the fact is they used a picture of a gunshot victim and used it to depict a person who lost their leg smoking.FACT. Now in my eyes and most rational people that is a lie, yes/no. You keep jumping the gun pal, smoking is harmful but if you read ALL the facts studies you will see that nothing I have said in any of my comments is wrong. You keep putting words in my mouth as if I’m promoting smoking, I’m not, I’m promoting rational thinking. As I said I worked in a tobacco company JTI.

Yeah I've seen some real deaths so it really doesn't matter if you are lying or the package is does it mate?

Word it's on the package ffs

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