The leapfrogging has already started: Ethiopia and the Democratic Republic of the Congo both operate completely on renewable energy while the rest of the world makes drama over dirty old energy.
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Africa: The Stateless Advantage
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Africa: The Stateless Advantage
The conventional wisdom on Africa is one of failed states, chronic instability, and a deficit of governance. This narrative, however, misses a profound and counterintuitive truth: the continent’s resistance to the rigid, Westphalian model of the nation-state is not a liability but a pioneering advantage. In an era of climate change, digital fragmentation, and transnational threats, Africa is quietly developing the flexible, networked forms of social organisation the world will soon need.
The colonial state's collapse across the continent did not create a vacuum but liberated a pent-up demand for more organic, multi-scalar governance. What outsiders label “ungovernable” spaces are often zones of vibrant, informal order.
From the cross-border trade networks of the Sahel to the digitally-mediated community currencies of Kenya, from the customary law courts of Somaliland to the community-led security initiatives in Nigeria’s Delta, governance is bubbling up from the bottom, not being imposed from the top.
This is a pragmatic adaptation to complex realities—ethnic diversity, harsh geographies, and porous borders—that rigid state structures have failed to manage. The result is a mosaic of overlapping authorities: traditional leaders, religious councils, business associations, and youth movements, all negotiating power and service provision. This fluidity is a strength.
When a drought hits, a pastoralist community in the Horn of Africa responds through clan networks faster than any central ministry could. When a pandemic emerges, mobile money platforms in Ghana can disburse relief with more reach than a national treasury.
Critics will point to the costs: violence, corruption, and a lack of public goods. But the Western state model carries its own catastrophic costs—bureaucratic sclerosis, unsustainable debt, and the capacity for industrial-scale violence.
Africa’s stateless experiments are forcing a redefinition of sovereignty itself: from a monopoly on violence within a territory to a modular, issue-based legitimacy. Think of it as “sovereignty-as-a-service.”
The rest of the world is beginning to face Africa’s challenges. Cyber-attacks and climate migration will render territorial control porous. The 21st century’s problems are network problems, and they demand network solutions—the very kind being stress-tested in Africa’s “ungovernable” spaces.
The lesson is not that all states should dissolve, but that the state must become one node among many in a resilient system. Africa, by necessity, is building that system now. The future may be stateless, and it is being prototyped on a continent that never fully bought into the state in the first place.
The colonial state's collapse across the continent did not create a vacuum but liberated a pent-up demand for more organic, multi-scalar governance. What outsiders label “ungovernable” spaces are often zones of vibrant, informal order.
From the cross-border trade networks of the Sahel to the digitally-mediated community currencies of Kenya, from the customary law courts of Somaliland to the community-led security initiatives in Nigeria’s Delta, governance is bubbling up from the bottom, not being imposed from the top.
This is a pragmatic adaptation to complex realities—ethnic diversity, harsh geographies, and porous borders—that rigid state structures have failed to manage. The result is a mosaic of overlapping authorities: traditional leaders, religious councils, business associations, and youth movements, all negotiating power and service provision. This fluidity is a strength.
When a drought hits, a pastoralist community in the Horn of Africa responds through clan networks faster than any central ministry could. When a pandemic emerges, mobile money platforms in Ghana can disburse relief with more reach than a national treasury.
Critics will point to the costs: violence, corruption, and a lack of public goods. But the Western state model carries its own catastrophic costs—bureaucratic sclerosis, unsustainable debt, and the capacity for industrial-scale violence.
Africa’s stateless experiments are forcing a redefinition of sovereignty itself: from a monopoly on violence within a territory to a modular, issue-based legitimacy. Think of it as “sovereignty-as-a-service.”
The rest of the world is beginning to face Africa’s challenges. Cyber-attacks and climate migration will render territorial control porous. The 21st century’s problems are network problems, and they demand network solutions—the very kind being stress-tested in Africa’s “ungovernable” spaces.
The lesson is not that all states should dissolve, but that the state must become one node among many in a resilient system. Africa, by necessity, is building that system now. The future may be stateless, and it is being prototyped on a continent that never fully bought into the state in the first place.

Africa is the next goldmine for the powers in this world. They have absolutely no idea how much they are going to be used as a pawn over the next 50/100+ years.
Africa has not resisted the powers from the west/east, they have for the most part been left alone. Not for much longer. Both the US and China are investing billions into infrastructure in Africa. Not only that but Africa is being tied into all sorts of debt arrangements with these bigger countries that you just know will bite them on the arse later down the line.
My hunch is that Africa is going to be an agricultural hotbed moving forward, We have toyed and played around with the middle east for the last 100 or so years and now Africa is the next target.
Africa has not resisted the powers from the west/east, they have for the most part been left alone. Not for much longer. Both the US and China are investing billions into infrastructure in Africa. Not only that but Africa is being tied into all sorts of debt arrangements with these bigger countries that you just know will bite them on the arse later down the line.
My hunch is that Africa is going to be an agricultural hotbed moving forward, We have toyed and played around with the middle east for the last 100 or so years and now Africa is the next target.

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evolves from consciousness
My postman is obviously a stoner, just the way he carries the back all slung back on his shoulder gives it away but he also looks like Wayne (or Garth I can't remember which one is which). I keep thinking I should offer him a bowl of the good shit but he delivers so much weed to me I think I'd be putting him in a bad position.

Lol that's poss the best 3 words. Esp goin by the shit that appears in my area as "weed". And the wannabes selling it

You got me.
Relax in piece - RIP
Happily ever after.
Home sweet home.
Sunshine at night.
Just 3 words?!
Relax in piece - RIP
Happily ever after.
Home sweet home.
Sunshine at night.
Just 3 words?!

Would be interesting to see where the locations of all of these are on WhatThreeWords!

Layer of consciousness
Each of the competitors has emotional limbic partners
A light wavwyin accord
Does it matter what substrate
Each of the competitors has emotional limbic partners
A light wavwyin accord
Does it matter what substrate

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Fake weed forum....... bring back the old suppliers. Suppliers these days are all crooks.... firstly they get bulk of weed then put it in a tumbler and shake it to take the crystals off the bud so they can make there pillen and dope then the weed gets sprayed with terps to give the buds a flavour again. This is why the dope is dearer than the weed... absolute scams going on here. People need to wake up and start refusing this poison on here these days. There is a handful of sellers that are legit but 95% on here is selling fake thc grass... all its doing is making people sick

Just started watching 'Spaced' again.
I'm 40 now so it is my generation, but it's really good!
(yup showing my age)
It's on all4. Along with Peep Show (which yeah i like too!)
Don't judge me!
Haha
Cheers BB
I'm 40 now so it is my generation, but it's really good!
(yup showing my age)
It's on all4. Along with Peep Show (which yeah i like too!)
Don't judge me!
Haha
Cheers BB

I'm in the middle of re-watching Spaced and felt like I had to scroll for hours to find somebody who finally mentioned it! xD

Thank you - you just reminded me I need to re-watch spaced again!
I was too old for it even back then, but the clever references still tickle me all these years later..
I was too old for it even back then, but the clever references still tickle me all these years later..

Well I’ll judge you... if I could give 2 upvotes I would, agree with you totally, 2 of my fave ever shows, making me think of hitting Spaced up again...

The Wire
The Ozark
Altered Carbon
Arrested Developement
People Just Do Nothing
Peep Show
Trailer Park Boys
Big Mouth
Fargo
Life On Mars
Dark Tourist
The Wolves Of Yellowstone
Utopia
It's Always Sunny In Philidelphia
Homeland
The Killing
Punisher
The End Of The Fucking World
This is what I can think of right now; definitely more to add. If anyone wants a little review/opinon or rundown on any of these shows let me know, more than happy. Also let me know what you're in the mood for, or usually like to watch and I can fire back with recommendations
The Ozark
Altered Carbon
Arrested Developement
People Just Do Nothing
Peep Show
Trailer Park Boys
Big Mouth
Fargo
Life On Mars
Dark Tourist
The Wolves Of Yellowstone
Utopia
It's Always Sunny In Philidelphia
Homeland
The Killing
Punisher
The End Of The Fucking World
This is what I can think of right now; definitely more to add. If anyone wants a little review/opinon or rundown on any of these shows let me know, more than happy. Also let me know what you're in the mood for, or usually like to watch and I can fire back with recommendations

Ah fuck it, nothing better to do, haha
The Wire - best thing ever written. Slow burner due to complication of story, but it is relatable as the war on drugs does not have a start or end to it, and street dealing doesn't just start, therefore you are immediately immersed in the story without even realising. Only figured that out the second time watching it. Also some great visual metaphors throughout. Also note there is no cue music to instigate feelings. All music is from source, i.e. car radio, night club. Only cue music is when Avon enters the lowrisers for the first time
The Ozark - Although breaking bad is good, it's not worth the hype. This is the older cooler brother of breaking bad. Calculated and intense at times. Story is always moving forward with real character progression
Altered Carbon - Absolutely fantastic sci-fi with great visuals and a great story line. Really left me itching to read the book, and I'm not a sci-fi fan
Arrested Development - Intelligent comedy with so much layered jokes you can watch this five times and still find punch lines you never noticed before
People Just Do Nothing - Threw this on not expecting much which is perhaps why I found it to be so good. Off the wall characters made completely believable by the actors playing the parts. Excellent idea, excellent execution.
Peep Show - This is a classic, you need to watch this
Trailer Park Boys - Another classic everyone here should be able to relate to
Big Mouth - Great for a background watch, but really funny and does take you back to your teenage years at times, haha
Fargo - Beautiful cinematography, great story captured very close to the original film. Billy Bob absolutely shines in this role in season one
Life On Mars - Made in early naughties, but just as relevant as today
Dark Tourist - good short run of a different kind of travel show. The kind of travel I like too
The Wolves Of Yellowstone - Nature documentary that has a story line Walt Disney would be proud of. Really makes you realise the balance of nature
Utopia - Such an underrated British TV series
It's Always Sunny In Philidelphia - Great zany show about dysfunctional friends who live in their own world, and drink in their own pub causing all kinds of ridiculous antics
Homeland - Great series that will always have you wondering what, or who is next
The Killing - Only recommend the first seasons. It drags you along on the witch hunt convincing you you know the answer
Punisher - About time they stuck to the gritty comic. Refreshing that this i not aimed at kids and fattening wallets.
The End Of The Fucking World - Two out there teens who decide to adventure together with, maybe, disastrous consequences
The Wire - best thing ever written. Slow burner due to complication of story, but it is relatable as the war on drugs does not have a start or end to it, and street dealing doesn't just start, therefore you are immediately immersed in the story without even realising. Only figured that out the second time watching it. Also some great visual metaphors throughout. Also note there is no cue music to instigate feelings. All music is from source, i.e. car radio, night club. Only cue music is when Avon enters the lowrisers for the first time
The Ozark - Although breaking bad is good, it's not worth the hype. This is the older cooler brother of breaking bad. Calculated and intense at times. Story is always moving forward with real character progression
Altered Carbon - Absolutely fantastic sci-fi with great visuals and a great story line. Really left me itching to read the book, and I'm not a sci-fi fan
Arrested Development - Intelligent comedy with so much layered jokes you can watch this five times and still find punch lines you never noticed before
People Just Do Nothing - Threw this on not expecting much which is perhaps why I found it to be so good. Off the wall characters made completely believable by the actors playing the parts. Excellent idea, excellent execution.
Peep Show - This is a classic, you need to watch this
Trailer Park Boys - Another classic everyone here should be able to relate to
Big Mouth - Great for a background watch, but really funny and does take you back to your teenage years at times, haha
Fargo - Beautiful cinematography, great story captured very close to the original film. Billy Bob absolutely shines in this role in season one
Life On Mars - Made in early naughties, but just as relevant as today
Dark Tourist - good short run of a different kind of travel show. The kind of travel I like too
The Wolves Of Yellowstone - Nature documentary that has a story line Walt Disney would be proud of. Really makes you realise the balance of nature
Utopia - Such an underrated British TV series
It's Always Sunny In Philidelphia - Great zany show about dysfunctional friends who live in their own world, and drink in their own pub causing all kinds of ridiculous antics
Homeland - Great series that will always have you wondering what, or who is next
The Killing - Only recommend the first seasons. It drags you along on the witch hunt convincing you you know the answer
Punisher - About time they stuck to the gritty comic. Refreshing that this i not aimed at kids and fattening wallets.
The End Of The Fucking World - Two out there teens who decide to adventure together with, maybe, disastrous consequences

Peep show one of my all time favs and can't to wrong with arrested development what a classic

Sad that they never manager to run the show normally... And probably we won't se another season ever :( love arrested development

Currently halfway through the first series of Altered Carbon after reading this thread and seeing your recommendation. I'm a PhilipKDick fan and I'm really enjoying it, cheers 👍

Oh my god its been years since I've watched utopia and now I'm all excited to dive into the twisted wacky world of 90's conspiracies that now seem quick mundane as they are basically happening now

Dark on Netflix. German show about time travel set in a village where kids keep going missing every 33 years. Stunning production values, really intricately plotted, three series, all ties together. Loved it. Has an English dub but the German audio with subtitles is best.

End of the fucking world is really good. Strange and offbeat which I like. With some characters that don’t give a fuck. And it’s British and very relatable (even though it’s about a lad that thinks he’s a psychopath haha).

100% but do you think you could watch them the other way round and it’s all still as good? As I really do, integrated them amazingly well.

Yeah I agree, I liked BB a lot but I came to it a bit late and like UKgrower hearing the hype maybe expected too much. Better call Saul I didn’t expect much of at all, didn’t think it’d get past Series 1 but now I think it’s better than BB.

If you enjoyed Breaking Bad, then give Better Call Saul a go. I always thought he stole every scene he was in during Breaking Bad.

Literally just finished watching brassic 2 and Save me Too. Both class. Surely everyone on here has watched Brassic.....!!!?

I do, doesn't quite hit the levels that Shameless did back in the day but still a lot of fun. Plus it's good to hear actual accents on TV instead of just American lol

I'm watching Detectorists at the moment. Really good. Funny and with beautiful scenery. On BBC iPlayer and Netflix.

Shout for detectorists.
Great theme tune btw.
Excellent characters.
Great series about the sackler family’s and there murderous medical misbehaviour ( painkiller )
Starring ferris bueller.
Great theme tune btw.
Excellent characters.
Great series about the sackler family’s and there murderous medical misbehaviour ( painkiller )
Starring ferris bueller.

Some of the things I've enjoyed are:
The Boys
Vikings
100
Only fools and horses
Into the Badlands
Breaking Bad
Picard
Game of Thrones ( Except the last season which I found terrible )
Star Trek The next Generation - Deep Space Nine
Stargate Atlantis
Treadstone
The Boys
Vikings
100
Only fools and horses
Into the Badlands
Breaking Bad
Picard
Game of Thrones ( Except the last season which I found terrible )
Star Trek The next Generation - Deep Space Nine
Stargate Atlantis
Treadstone

*The Queen's Gambit- short series (one season only) but good storyline
*Lie To Me
*The Mentalist
*Sherlock
*Lie To Me
*The Mentalist
*Sherlock

Orphan black! one of my favourites.. the wire.. Russian doll..cynical,funny. end of the fucking world. Money heist.. prison break..cleverly written. Better call Saul if you enjoyed breaking bad.
Rick and Morty and weed is my favourite combination. Snoop dog’s talk show on YouTube is hilarious to watch as-well.
I find American horror story hilarious, but only when I’m high, otherwise it’s pretty terrifying lol.
Films : seven psychopaths is a must watch, requiem for a dream and pulp fiction, all time faves. and I did write a detailed review and much more but it was deleted :/
Rick and Morty and weed is my favourite combination. Snoop dog’s talk show on YouTube is hilarious to watch as-well.
I find American horror story hilarious, but only when I’m high, otherwise it’s pretty terrifying lol.
Films : seven psychopaths is a must watch, requiem for a dream and pulp fiction, all time faves. and I did write a detailed review and much more but it was deleted :/

If you want a Change and a Tons of one line bombs to drop at work or with your mates there is only one place to go
"Letter Kenny" it will almost make you want to live there
10ply/Sally/Hard No and Bonny McMurryyyyyyyyyyyyyy
And if you want some of the best swearing on telly "The Thick of IT" / In The Loop
You will never watch a MP without Laughing again The Thick of it is almost a Documatary
Malcom Tucker is a
Best name calling every "Fuckbob Shitpants"
Sorry about the spelling
I am just dislexick @is there a strain that will help with this???
"Letter Kenny" it will almost make you want to live there
10ply/Sally/Hard No and Bonny McMurryyyyyyyyyyyyyy
And if you want some of the best swearing on telly "The Thick of IT" / In The Loop
You will never watch a MP without Laughing again The Thick of it is almost a Documatary
Malcom Tucker is a
Best name calling every "Fuckbob Shitpants"
Sorry about the spelling
I am just dislexick @is there a strain that will help with this???

yes, they will all help make it worse. on the bright side, since everybody started typing on their phones, dyslexia is hardly noticeable anymore and you really don't have to apologise.

Gomorrah if you dont mind subtitles, its an Italian crime show set in Naples. Simply brilliant.
Murphys law
Stargate universe, SG1, Atlantis
Firefly
The Expanse
Oz
Banshee
Person of interest
The shield
Hetty Wainthropp investigates
Murphys law
Stargate universe, SG1, Atlantis
Firefly
The Expanse
Oz
Banshee
Person of interest
The shield
Hetty Wainthropp investigates

Gomorrah is the shit man, one of my all time favs
Oz is a downer but an awesome show
Ozark
Better call Saul
The wire
Boardwalk empire
Sopranos
Just watched Gangs of London which was banging
Chernobyl was a masterpiece
Oz is a downer but an awesome show
Ozark
Better call Saul
The wire
Boardwalk empire
Sopranos
Just watched Gangs of London which was banging
Chernobyl was a masterpiece

Yean Gomorrah is probably my number 1 show, the setting, actors, story... superb. Cant wait to watch the Ciro Di Marzio movie too.

L'Immortale or the Immortal is the name, was out last year in Italy. Have tried to find out when its out in the UK but no joy yet

Its on sky atlantic now mate, its certainly worth a watch an sets up the next season of Gomorrah nicely

If you like weird? Get baked & watch.
Channel 4
Garth marenghi's dark place ;-)
Robot chicken
Shivering truth
Father ted
The IT crowd
One foot in the grave
What we do in the shadows. Watch the film first.
Sandman - netflix
Red dwarf
Fast show
Inside no 9
The young offenders
The boys
15 stories high - sean lock's first tv series. on youtube but low quality.
Band of brothers
Chernobyl
Firefly
Curb your enthusiasm
Fawlty towers
Black adder
Black mirror
Dexter
Channel 4
Garth marenghi's dark place ;-)
Robot chicken
Shivering truth
Father ted
The IT crowd
One foot in the grave
What we do in the shadows. Watch the film first.
Sandman - netflix
Red dwarf
Fast show
Inside no 9
The young offenders
The boys
15 stories high - sean lock's first tv series. on youtube but low quality.
Band of brothers
Chernobyl
Firefly
Curb your enthusiasm
Fawlty towers
Black adder
Black mirror
Dexter

Respect for Garth Merenghi, everybody should see that.
On that note, throw Mighty Boosh into the mix as well.
Big Train to round off a trio of lesser-known, top quality British comedies.
On that note, throw Mighty Boosh into the mix as well.
Big Train to round off a trio of lesser-known, top quality British comedies.

Ifyou seen BB, definitely watch Better Call Saul.
Comedy? The Office US and then Parks n Recreation. Or maybe Shameless US? Little Britain it's always great company.
If you seen Broadwalk E, you probably have seen the sopranos. If not its a MUST! Ive been watching House of Cards and it's quite nice too.
Maybe 6 feet under, Weeds, Dexter, Chuck, My name it's Earl??
Cience? COSMOS!!! A mind blowing and mind opening cience series. Everyone should watch it before they die. Either the original and first with Carl Sagan (it might not have the best visual representations but Carl its Carl) or the new Neil Tyson.
In to some stand ups? George Carlin is a must, the young Carlin to the old political Carlin.
I would also like to give a shout out to my Spanish Fellows on THE Money Heist.
Comedy? The Office US and then Parks n Recreation. Or maybe Shameless US? Little Britain it's always great company.
If you seen Broadwalk E, you probably have seen the sopranos. If not its a MUST! Ive been watching House of Cards and it's quite nice too.
Maybe 6 feet under, Weeds, Dexter, Chuck, My name it's Earl??
Cience? COSMOS!!! A mind blowing and mind opening cience series. Everyone should watch it before they die. Either the original and first with Carl Sagan (it might not have the best visual representations but Carl its Carl) or the new Neil Tyson.
In to some stand ups? George Carlin is a must, the young Carlin to the old political Carlin.
I would also like to give a shout out to my Spanish Fellows on THE Money Heist.

Yo UK Grower. I have just discovered Channel Zero on StarZplay, prime add on. It’s a really good horror series, twisted stuff, defo a bit freaky.

To any one who likes comedies don't be put off What We Do in the Shadows, it's vampires but it's not really a "vampire" type show.... it's really funny when high and the second series has just come out on iplayer.

If you're into Sci-fi I'd highly recommend Altered Carbon on Netflix. Really cool story and visuals. I seen somebody recommended Ozark, excellent as well. If you like animation and feel like a laugh give Rick and Morty a watch, The Midnight Gospel is also new to Netflix but really trippy / funny in my opinion. Happy watching!

Have you ever watched Travellers? (if you was a fan of stargate back in the day this will interest you) or if your a sci fi fan, Very good story telling and actors (Canadian)

i liked that a lot more than i thought i would. also, colony on netflix even though it was killed by covid and never finished.

I almost pissed myself with laughter watching the first episode as I watched the trailer but wasn't really for how out there this really is. A must watch for any sci fi and gaming fan or if you have a sick sense of humour like me :)

Stranger Things Season 1 - 80's themed sci-fi thriller with endearing characters that had me on the edge of my seat throughout.
True Detective Season 1 - Basically an 8 hour movie that oozes quality. Pacing/cinematography/acting/dialogue are all A++ for me.
Trailer Park Boys - Get baked, watch this, laugh your arse off.
Peep Show - Clever and hilarious.
True Detective Season 1 - Basically an 8 hour movie that oozes quality. Pacing/cinematography/acting/dialogue are all A++ for me.
Trailer Park Boys - Get baked, watch this, laugh your arse off.
Peep Show - Clever and hilarious.

Band of Brothers is a masterpiece, great shout! Any recommendations of war films/series that are similar mate?

Give 'The Pacific' a go. Its HBOs follow up to 'Band Of Brothers' set during the allied assault on the Pacific region during WW2

Trailer Park Boys should be perfect for everyone on here, given the enormous amount of smoking and growing throughout!

Since it hasn’t been mentioned here , it only proves how massively underrated Wilfred is . Had great laughs :) U.S. version of an Australian cult sitcom about a meek young man and a pot-smoking talking dog named Wilfred (actually actor Jason Gann in a dog suit, whom everyone else sees as just a dog). Won’t spoilt it anymore

Gotta be Trailer Park Boys
(still on Netflix atm)
The American office is a good
watch too with many eps
(still on Netflix atm)
The American office is a good
watch too with many eps

The Christmas special of Mortimer and Whitehouse Gone Fishing done in THE most beautiful part of the country North Yorkshire! Great watch when baked as fuck haha :)
The Grand Tour is back as well for anyone in to that, done to death obviously but atleast it's something new to watch lol
The Grand Tour is back as well for anyone in to that, done to death obviously but atleast it's something new to watch lol

If you liked Breaking Bad you might like Better Call Saul... it's slower but the writing and cinematography are actually better imo. Plus by S5 the pace is basically on BB levels.

The Boys or Doom patrol, quality shows right there & the wire If you didnt see it yet,too many to name mate but try them

Undone is good and trippy with the animation style it uses and pretty unique story to boot.
You (season 1). Solid watch but latest series was a waste of time.
You (season 1). Solid watch but latest series was a waste of time.

Fringe is my favorite series of all time!
12 monkeys
Weeds
Already mentioned but some of my favorites -
Westworld, The Magicians, altered carbon & Vikings
With everyones suggestions should keep you going for a couple of lockdowns
12 monkeys
Weeds
Already mentioned but some of my favorites -
Westworld, The Magicians, altered carbon & Vikings
With everyones suggestions should keep you going for a couple of lockdowns

Get the amazon Prime free trial and watch Picard, star trek spin off - it's really good, not what you expect.

also i love disco/history/natgeo... skin walker ranch program on at the mo is interesting. history but avail on catchup bro

Dunno if these have been broached, but try some Aussie drama
Pine Gap
Underbelly
The Magician / Mr Inbetween
All great watches but Mr Inbetween tells the story of your everyday underworld enforcer. Ive watched it in full 3 times and regularly watch YouTube clips. Never has the word run hit so hard
Pine Gap
Underbelly
The Magician / Mr Inbetween
All great watches but Mr Inbetween tells the story of your everyday underworld enforcer. Ive watched it in full 3 times and regularly watch YouTube clips. Never has the word run hit so hard

Watching Yellowjackets at the moment, pretty good but if you watch the pilot episode don’t be put off as that’s a bit shit, it does get better!
Watched “From” before that, that was pretty good too…
Watched “From” before that, that was pretty good too…

The Start Up, it's on Netflix. 2 series' that I've thoroughly enjoyed. Defo worth a watch!

Devs.
New Alex Garland (Ex Machina) series on FX & Hulu in the states, not sure where in the UK. Totally brilliant, and the best cinematography I've seen on TV. Ran here in spring 2020 and I'm still thinking about it.
New Alex Garland (Ex Machina) series on FX & Hulu in the states, not sure where in the UK. Totally brilliant, and the best cinematography I've seen on TV. Ran here in spring 2020 and I'm still thinking about it.

just call Saul was better than breaking bad in some ways (last series a bit disappointing tho). Always interested to see if people liked the Midnight Gospel (single series, animation, also Netflix).

The Sopranos, the Wire, The Americans (best ending), boss season 1, the Divide 2014 (hard to find but worth it), true detective 4, xfiles season 4.

I just rewatched 'The Lost Room'
It's a miniseries with 3 90min episodes and it only ever had one proper airing so nobody I've ever mentioned it to has seen it.
Definitely worth a watch though💜💚👊🏻
It's a miniseries with 3 90min episodes and it only ever had one proper airing so nobody I've ever mentioned it to has seen it.
Definitely worth a watch though💜💚👊🏻

Trying to go for some semi-obscure ones here....
Burn notice
We own this city (from the same guy who did the wire)
Tokyo vice
Spartacus blood and sand (all 4 seasons)
Final space
Primal
Goblin slayer (not an anime fan but love this)
15 Storeys high
Burn notice
We own this city (from the same guy who did the wire)
Tokyo vice
Spartacus blood and sand (all 4 seasons)
Final space
Primal
Goblin slayer (not an anime fan but love this)
15 Storeys high

If no one has said it yet, Banshee. A pro thief / seriously tough guy played by Anthony Starr ( Homelander from the boys) rolls into town, assumes the identity of a recently deceased new Sheriff that no one has met yet. Boom, he's now the law in town and is actually very good at stopping crime. Insane realistic violence, Amish gangsters, bikers, native American mafia and lots more, best show I've ever seen

Hi Biggas TEAM
New to here and to the community. Good to meet you all!
Shows to have a watch by me ->
- Suburra
- ZeroZeroZero
- Cocaine Coast
- Narcos
- El Chapo
- Gomorrah
- Ozark
- Top Boy
- McMafia
- Undercover
- Kin ( Really enjoyed that one )
- Quicksand
- Snabba Cash
- Mayor of Kingstown
- Ripley
- Unauthorized Living
- Ganglands
- The Gentlemen
- Mindhunter
- The Fall
- Bodies
- The Sinner
- Criminal: UK
- Hache
Who ever will be watching... just enjoy it.
New to here and to the community. Good to meet you all!
Shows to have a watch by me ->
- Suburra
- ZeroZeroZero
- Cocaine Coast
- Narcos
- El Chapo
- Gomorrah
- Ozark
- Top Boy
- McMafia
- Undercover
- Kin ( Really enjoyed that one )
- Quicksand
- Snabba Cash
- Mayor of Kingstown
- Ripley
- Unauthorized Living
- Ganglands
- The Gentlemen
- Mindhunter
- The Fall
- Bodies
- The Sinner
- Criminal: UK
- Hache
Who ever will be watching... just enjoy it.

On the The Block - Netflix - nice teen vibe and story
Archive 81 - Netflix stranger things vibe , synthwave , 80s , VHs Vibe - captivating story , mysterious
Archive 81 - Netflix stranger things vibe , synthwave , 80s , VHs Vibe - captivating story , mysterious

Brand New Cherry Flavour if you think you'd find the subject of psychedelic sorcery played out as a fictional horror story interesting

Often overlooked, but Mike Judge of Beavis and Butthead fame created this absolute gem....highly reccomend...as smart as it is funny...

15/7.
You could try black mirror.
A selection of engrossing stories some weird and some mind blowing.. spanning 6 seasons between 4 n 6 eps each.
Can’t remember all but loch Henry and demon 79 were fck brilliant from the last season. 🌬️🍀
You could try black mirror.
A selection of engrossing stories some weird and some mind blowing.. spanning 6 seasons between 4 n 6 eps each.
Can’t remember all but loch Henry and demon 79 were fck brilliant from the last season. 🌬️🍀

Ozark
Slow Horses
I-land
Blacklist
Upload
Code 404
Line of Duty
Bosch Legacy
Hanna
Prison Break
Suits
The Capture
Brassic
Hightown
White Lines
Better Call Saul
Power
Weeds
Slow Horses
I-land
Blacklist
Upload
Code 404
Line of Duty
Bosch Legacy
Hanna
Prison Break
Suits
The Capture
Brassic
Hightown
White Lines
Better Call Saul
Power
Weeds

Person of Interest
Jim cavisal and Micheal Emerson proper dark series about artificial intelligence a must watch
Jim cavisal and Micheal Emerson proper dark series about artificial intelligence a must watch

I'm surprised no one suggested Family Business (on Netflix). A great comedy series about a family in Paris who runs a Kosher butchers and end up producing vast amounts of Pastraweed!
Really funny, great actors and all around fun to watch.
A French Breaking Bad without all the stress in a way!
Really funny, great actors and all around fun to watch.
A French Breaking Bad without all the stress in a way!

I never thought I'd see someone mention The Platform. Great film if you've got your stone on! Alice in Borderland is brilliant also it's like a mash-up of The Prisoner and Battle Royale.

I know this is a bit of old news but have you seen Schitts Creek? I just discovered it and it is so funny

Devs
Norsemen
Treadstone
The Expanse
Mindhunter
Watchmen
Badlands (or enter the badlands)
Norsemen
Treadstone
The Expanse
Mindhunter
Watchmen
Badlands (or enter the badlands)

The Man in the High Castle is loads of fun, especially if you’re a fan of PKD. Classic UK series that are great: Line of Duty, The Fall, Peep Show, Monty Python’s Flying Circus

Succession is better than you'd think. Punisher is the best out of all the Marvel shows, Daredevil is also very watchable (and Jessica Jones if you're into angry women with PTSD). Umbrella Academy is fun to watch. The Magicians ditto. Also The Boys.

One of my all-time favourites will always be Daria.
I just love that sassy, sarcastic, little oddball in her socially satire highschool world. Sometimes it hits close to home.
Hoops on Netflix is also worth one or two laughs.
Tuca & Berti is also the right amount of strange.
Our Planet is a great background noise, a lot of beautiful scenery overviews.
Not in Netflix, but how about the Kurzgesagt YouTube channel. It's funny, educational, soothing commentary,cute Art style a great variety of topics etc.
I just love that sassy, sarcastic, little oddball in her socially satire highschool world. Sometimes it hits close to home.
Hoops on Netflix is also worth one or two laughs.
Tuca & Berti is also the right amount of strange.
Our Planet is a great background noise, a lot of beautiful scenery overviews.
Not in Netflix, but how about the Kurzgesagt YouTube channel. It's funny, educational, soothing commentary,cute Art style a great variety of topics etc.

Firefly
Battlestar Galactica ( the remake )
Parks and Rec ( but you have to tough out the first two seasons)
West world
Stranger Things
OA
Battlestar Galactica ( the remake )
Parks and Rec ( but you have to tough out the first two seasons)
West world
Stranger Things
OA

Ahh man the OA was fucking amazing, completely different to what I thought it'd be. Can't believe they aren't renewing it!

Hey man some good series I watched recently was:
The Originals
Vikings
Battle star galactica (the remake series)
The man in the high castle
The Magicians
Got a load more but too stoned to list!!!
Hope that helps a little 8)
The Originals
Vikings
Battle star galactica (the remake series)
The man in the high castle
The Magicians
Got a load more but too stoned to list!!!
Hope that helps a little 8)

Blake's 7
On the buses
3rd rock from the sun
It ain't half hot mum
Curry and chips
And my favourite Till death us do part
Them last 3 May not be very PC but still good stuff.
On the buses
3rd rock from the sun
It ain't half hot mum
Curry and chips
And my favourite Till death us do part
Them last 3 May not be very PC but still good stuff.

Black Monday , so off key guaranteed hard core laughing
Legit , so not pc. Jim Jeffries stars
Black Jesus , stonehead Jesus extremely funny
Legit , so not pc. Jim Jeffries stars
Black Jesus , stonehead Jesus extremely funny

Bobs burgers is a laugh when baked
El chapo if you can be bothered reading subs
SWAT
Gangs of London
Sons of anarchy
Mr Pickles - YouTube it
El chapo if you can be bothered reading subs
SWAT
Gangs of London
Sons of anarchy
Mr Pickles - YouTube it

Lots of good suggestions & Sopranos is also great. If you have Netflix then Orange Is The New Black is available & also Weeds from the same writer; both a bit different... ;-)

Braindead (2016)
A government employee learns that the cause for the disputes between two political parties is the insects which are eating their brains.
get ready to laugh
A government employee learns that the cause for the disputes between two political parties is the insects which are eating their brains.
get ready to laugh

Surprised no one’s mentioned Snowfall.
One of the best series imo.
And it’s free to watch on bbc iplayer
One of the best series imo.
And it’s free to watch on bbc iplayer

Loads of top shows already mentioned on this list so trying not to repeat(can't stand repeats). Didn't notice a mention for The Newsroom, absolutely brilliant with super slick dialogue, maybe stick to sativa for that one.
Also the classic stoner sit coms Top Buzzer starring a young Steven Graham and Ideal with Jonny Vegas, they will do for the indica night.
Once the hash and concentrates come out just put Taskmaster on it is the best thing c4 have done for a long time and requires zero brain power to enjoy perfect couch lock fodder
Also the classic stoner sit coms Top Buzzer starring a young Steven Graham and Ideal with Jonny Vegas, they will do for the indica night.
Once the hash and concentrates come out just put Taskmaster on it is the best thing c4 have done for a long time and requires zero brain power to enjoy perfect couch lock fodder

Fargo is probably the best series ever after GOT. Better Call Saul was brilliant too after a slow start. Better than Breaking Bad for me.

All the seasons are good and different stories so don't need to watch in order. All true apparently. The movie's a bit dated now but a great watch too.

Murder Mountain on Netflix. An oldie but a goodie. All about the emerald triangle in California and how it moved from illegal weed growing into legalisation and the lawless nature of the industry.

New British comedy horror on prime with Simon Pegg and nick frost, only a short one but was enjoyable, there’s this once scene when nick frost thinks he is about to get shanked and it’s hilarious.
It’s called Truth Seekers
It’s called Truth Seekers

Dubbed films used to drive me crackers but given that or the bbc I choose ‘ European crime series’s’
Seem to have them in every country and to be fair they are done well.
Seem to have them in every country and to be fair they are done well.

Truly terrible. Shows how much Pitt & Jolie were needed to make that story work. These two are deathly dull!

Dirk gentleys hollistic detective agency.
Brand new cherry flavor.
Lillehammer.
All on Netflix 👌🏻
Brand new cherry flavor.
Lillehammer.
All on Netflix 👌🏻

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Cart Sellers List All Ingredients Please
A good start but let's think of the next step, some dealers gonna say anything to move product.
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Cart Sellers List All Ingredients Please
One way we can address this mess with vape carts is to require full disclosure of ingredients in order to sell here. It's an IRL requirement for all food and drugs; if we are trying to make a better world for people this seems like a good start.

We try and be as transparent as possible with how our vapes are made & we always test our distillate for synthetics to make sure the distillate we buy is definitely just THC and hasn't been cut with anything else. The only other ingredient we use is Terpenes from terpenes UK which seems to be a reputable seller of terpenes. I think that random testing would be a good idea for everyone, I would be more than happy for any of our products to be randomly tested, I feel like the only people that wouldn't like some form of testing are people selling dodgy products lol

I've been around the block with the carts on LB and they don't get better for quality and price.
Your transparency is awesome. Keep up the great work!
Your transparency is awesome. Keep up the great work!

A good start but let's think of the next step, some dealers gonna say anything to move product.

Yes a no trust system would be nice, a blockchain of testers but in the meantime there are many trustworthy testers out there with reports they publish for each test.

Dr extracts are by far the cleanest vapes out there and there cheaper aswell . $50 for 1000mg . Ive had all of them of this site. Some where unavailable far too harsh . Dr extracts is the best

Thank you mate, little post like this mean more to me than you could imagine. much love

Pretty comprehensive list of tested vaped in the link
I highly recommend the Kuvana and Select carts from Sayno2drugs, on a different level to all the other carts I've tried
I highly recommend the Kuvana and Select carts from Sayno2drugs, on a different level to all the other carts I've tried

I've had the ingredients showing on my listing from its creation. As always, I use distillate from a known Canadian lab and the only other ingredient is the terpenes, which are supplied by a terpenes uk. I'd be happy for any testing to be carried out on my products.
I'm probably just tagging on to an old topic, but it seemed relevant.
I'm probably just tagging on to an old topic, but it seemed relevant.

We press the rosin our self's from flower of multiple different vendors, the only other ingredient is unflavored terpenes we get out of the USA to make it less viscous.
Love,
SCL
Love,
SCL

What percentage of the cart is the added terpenes? Also what terpenes are in your added terpenes? Thanks
https://www.leafly.com/news/health/what-is-phytol-vape-safety-investigation
https://www.leafly.com/news/health/what-is-phytol-vape-safety-investigation

Hi Bigbum,
to protect our usp, we will not share what and how much we use. We spend a lot of time to perfect our process. But we can tell you that there is no phytol or propylene glycol in it. PG personally gives me a headache. More importantly we don't add flavored terpenes to our carts. All the flavor comes from the flower it self.
That is why we started making our own carts, because we wanted the full flavor and character of the flower it self.
Love,
SCL
to protect our usp, we will not share what and how much we use. We spend a lot of time to perfect our process. But we can tell you that there is no phytol or propylene glycol in it. PG personally gives me a headache. More importantly we don't add flavored terpenes to our carts. All the flavor comes from the flower it self.
That is why we started making our own carts, because we wanted the full flavor and character of the flower it self.
Love,
SCL

While I don't disagree that this is a good idea, alcoholic drinks don't have to list all the ingredients in the UK.

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yagz
10,000 times more Americans Are Killed From Medical Errors Than Terrorism
ya see, bombing hospitals saves lives
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yagz
10,000 times more Americans Are Killed From Medical Errors Than Terrorism
A Johns Hopkins Study of preventable medical errors highlights just how stupid our society is in its priorities.

"Mrs President during the last administration over 2 million innocent Americans died from a government controlled system that profits the largest political patrons in the country what are you going to do about it?"
"Next Question"
"Some guy in a turban ..."
"Next Question"
"Some guy in a turban ..."

Thus the way to fix this is to make a fear based business out of the technical solution. So if it's say "AI diagnosis to complement your Doctor's opinion" this will catch on and save lives.

More people kill themselves than people who are murdered. Tobacco, alcohol , obesity and prescription drugs are the biggest killers of our time. Just avoid those and you have a great chance of getting old and being healthy;)

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Where are today’s protest singers?
he was released from prison in 2024
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Where are today’s protest singers?
Just listening to gill Scott herons first album ‘a new black poet’ , he still has the power to shock.who are today’s protest singers.
Is urban rap and hip hop, choose your genre, the new protest platform. Or is it just a mysoginist, homophobic, violent twisted reflection of city life from those excluded from the mainstream.
Is stormsy the new urban Dylan.?
Is urban rap and hip hop, choose your genre, the new protest platform. Or is it just a mysoginist, homophobic, violent twisted reflection of city life from those excluded from the mainstream.
Is stormsy the new urban Dylan.?

IDLES are pretty spot on politically and that shows in their lyrics! ‘The only way to scare a Tory is to read and get rich’.

Don't want to start a war between them but... Dave > Stormzy :P
edit - don't know whats going on with lb but this post went wacky, anyway jokes aside Dave actually deserves a little shout in this. The live performance of Black was really invoking and things like Question Time and Children of the Internet will appeal to any stoned thinker haha :) - at least the UK scene isn't just kids dying on cough medicine after one youtube hit, wtf happened to America?!
edit - don't know whats going on with lb but this post went wacky, anyway jokes aside Dave actually deserves a little shout in this. The live performance of Black was really invoking and things like Question Time and Children of the Internet will appeal to any stoned thinker haha :) - at least the UK scene isn't just kids dying on cough medicine after one youtube hit, wtf happened to America?!

You've got a lot to choose from in metal.
Check out some of the following:
Body Count: Black Hoodie
Body Count: No Lives Matter
Lamb of God: Poison Dream
Lamb of God: Now you've got something to die for
Dead Label: Dystopian Complex
Lock Horns: Blood and Oil
Gojira: Silvera
And I know this is basically a pisstake, but Dethklok Detharmonic in on point.
Check out some of the following:
Body Count: Black Hoodie
Body Count: No Lives Matter
Lamb of God: Poison Dream
Lamb of God: Now you've got something to die for
Dead Label: Dystopian Complex
Lock Horns: Blood and Oil
Gojira: Silvera
And I know this is basically a pisstake, but Dethklok Detharmonic in on point.

Bob Vylan are a great UK act not getting enough attention
https://youtu.be/ckf5Awk4fuU?si=2goqti20l5Wl2mEc
This has one of the greatest lyrics lines of any song ever written imo
"No liberal lefty cunt
Is gonna tell me punching Nazis ain't the way"
https://youtu.be/ckf5Awk4fuU?si=2goqti20l5Wl2mEc
This has one of the greatest lyrics lines of any song ever written imo
"No liberal lefty cunt
Is gonna tell me punching Nazis ain't the way"

I'd say for this definitely Run The Jewels. Akala is still about as well. Immortal technique is meant to be releasing a new album soon. I don't think we will see the likes of a band like RATM again for sometime

Left a RATM gig with cracked rib from the most hectic mosh pit I’ve ever known, mega fun. Second best mosh was the Pogues in 88.

I saw someone with there arm twisted the wrong way being carried out of a RATM set. Reading 96' I believe. Great set, terrifying moshpit.. Did it anyway though. Fun times.

I agree the power of the music to inform and protest is lost, but straight out of the gate, you have macklemore Hinds Hall (this came out of nowhere!). Whatever your position on the conflict (or the tune) it sums up what the issue is. Bands are commodities and businesses know they can be used to influence, so they invest heavily. And if you don't tow the line then your out!

Depends how you classify protest. I'd say Bruce Springsteen, Iris DeMent, Godspeed You! Black Emperor, Tom Waits, at a pinch you could add Pulp though they're more against our modern way of life than against the way we are governed. I admit I'm not up to speed with "modern" music. I'm 70 for fuck's sake!

I forgot Public Enemy are still going strong.
I think they cornered the market in the American black protest field fighting fire with fire to show the other side of the American nightmare.
I think they cornered the market in the American black protest field fighting fire with fire to show the other side of the American nightmare.

Protest the Hero + Show Me the Body are two bands that spring to mind. These are certainly not protest artists sonically, as they are both heavier guitar bands, but are both aggressively anti-establishment, discussing topics you won’t hear other artists sing about.

Unfortunately he grew up and joined new labour.
Saw him live at least dozen times, used to do loads of small gigs and protests. I was in socialist workers party and he was doing loads of fundraisers for the miners.
Saw him live at least dozen times, used to do loads of small gigs and protests. I was in socialist workers party and he was doing loads of fundraisers for the miners.

Just as much intolerance on the left as on the right. We live in a shallow social media driven world. In which we all eat consume far too much whilst slowly killing ourselves and the planet. Facebook, mcdonald's,nike etc. It's a shallow,plastic world and that's not a suitable environment for growing protest singers.

Sort of agree, unfortunately the mass media (particularly print media) are owned run by right wing, ie Sun, times, telegraph etc

The BBC, THe Guardian Newspaper, Channel 4, ITV to name a few left wing media outlets.
And for the BBC to be so biased is a disgrace just look at the stats over 14% LBGTQ within there workforce as opposed to 0.4% in most other organisations massively disproportionate.
Also the mainstream media seems to love to demonise the working classes.
The white indegoius male is despised by the main stream media especially the BBC.
All I do know is before all this WOKE nonsense started we had not been at this much level of war activity since the second World War and now look at all this mess.
Weak leftist policies have risked our safety and security to the point where I worry about my relatives safety in the UK and have also made us a target from forces that want to destroy us.
You need only look at who was the London mayor best mate at UNi for example ? None other than the leader of Albasha terror GROUP. and if that does not worry you to realise that if all this wokey business continues there won't be no western songs ti sing no more because they will be banned.
I remember the cold War, I remember living in the troubles and feeling and hearing the sounds of cemtex around me and going through the checkpoints. I talk from experience and no the real dangers that all this liberal far left nonsense brings as I have lived and breathed this shit before.
And for the BBC to be so biased is a disgrace just look at the stats over 14% LBGTQ within there workforce as opposed to 0.4% in most other organisations massively disproportionate.
Also the mainstream media seems to love to demonise the working classes.
The white indegoius male is despised by the main stream media especially the BBC.
All I do know is before all this WOKE nonsense started we had not been at this much level of war activity since the second World War and now look at all this mess.
Weak leftist policies have risked our safety and security to the point where I worry about my relatives safety in the UK and have also made us a target from forces that want to destroy us.
You need only look at who was the London mayor best mate at UNi for example ? None other than the leader of Albasha terror GROUP. and if that does not worry you to realise that if all this wokey business continues there won't be no western songs ti sing no more because they will be banned.
I remember the cold War, I remember living in the troubles and feeling and hearing the sounds of cemtex around me and going through the checkpoints. I talk from experience and no the real dangers that all this liberal far left nonsense brings as I have lived and breathed this shit before.

"The perceived partiality of the BBC comes from both sides of the political spectrum. Of the people in the YouGov survey who identified as supporting the Conservatives, 15% thought the BBC is generally a little more favourable towards the left and 23% thought they were much more favourable. Conversely, 26% of those who identified as supporting Labour thought the BBC is generally a little more favourable to the right and 20% thought they were much more favourable."
https://www.politics.co.uk/reference/bbc-bias/
Oh look your are wrong in the very first statement
Hilariously you are a excellent example of media manipulation imo
https://www.politics.co.uk/reference/bbc-bias/
Oh look your are wrong in the very first statement
Hilariously you are a excellent example of media manipulation imo

I blame the growing influence of the network - attentions turning inwards as the younger generation start living in the fantasy of the online world. I showed my teenage step daughter the matrix the other day thinking she'd love it - her response "why would anyone choose not to stay in the matrix"!

its a perfect substrate for protest. people have the means and motive.
that's why there is tons of it in rap, singing is as dead as springsteen.
that's why there is tons of it in rap, singing is as dead as springsteen.

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what current artists will become classic?
If the 2nd Wet Leg album is anywhere near as good as their debut, they'll be talked about and listened to for many years to come.
Such a refreshingly creative, fun and talented band. Awesome live too
Such a refreshingly creative, fun and talented band. Awesome live too

No specific artist but I hope this original UK hip hop sound lives for ever. And who doesn't love a freddo

None, the current music industry is devoid of anything fresh or inspiring. There may be artists out there who could but they won’t cross over in the current sanitised music scene controlled by cooperate pigs who want artists they can fully control who will bend over for them and take it up the ringer…the 90s was the last great era of music, everything that came after just seems largely forgettable. Also the fact people now download music rather than go out and buy the albums, singles etc means we no longer really own the music and are less connected. People would rather spend their money on expensive coffees than pay for music that could inspire or change their lives. Technology, wokeism and greed has killed music and the artists of today….rant over…haha

Personal vote in terms of an artist is loyle carner. It's an actual crime the amount of people I ask who have no clue who he is! His new album just dropped as did tour dates 👀🔥

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Heartache - Lorrie Morgan 🪽
Also an earache
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visual music by egress
like the end if human music and the start of ai
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Worst song ever? And why... GO!
zep had range
Anything by Elton John fucking hate the cunt and his music, my wife ruined my Xmas day few years back by telling me a gay singer i didnt like had died.
I was so exited then she told me it was George Michael and i was gutted.
I was so exited then she told me it was George Michael and i was gutted.

and i feel better about myself, you know plotting his murder and all. george michael on the other hand was a genius and worth a quickie in the facility of his choosing

Hahahaha, I actually like Elton, well as much as a straight man can but that made me laugh man.

Fairground simply red, gives me violent thoughts of grabbing mick by his flowing red curls and bouncing his head of every hard surface available. Total pissflap

Yeah anything by Simply Red can give me Forrest Whittaker eye but Fairground is especially bad

And imagine being called Eileen when it came on down the pub back in the day…. Poor cow needed 3 packs of baby wipes.

Too many but Will Smith - Wild Wild West has got to be up there surely. It’s like some record execs put a gun to his head and said ‘Dance bitch!’

Do you think they did it again to willow ? I whip my hair even for a 13 year old was fucking awful

that movie had so much going for it and they still blew it, would make a better series than a lot of shit

Nothing Compares to You by Sinead Depressing Cunt O'Connor that song has the warmth and charm of a dead Rat lying next to a used Tampon.

That Barbie girl tune, need I say why! Lol
And the “grandma I love you” tune, showing my age! Lol
And the “grandma I love you” tune, showing my age! Lol

Ok you win… The grandma I love you song was fucking horrendous, then they felt the need to create the sequel… Grandpa I love you… I mean we got the message the first time.

written and produced by herbie flowers, one of the greatest session musicians of the late 60's and 70's (google him - he's was an amazing musician and played bass on many of the greatest recordings of the era from lou reed, scott walker, david bowie, t rex, bryan ferry, many more) who was sick of getting paid session rates and living in a two bed semi in ditchling while everyone who employed him got super rich so came up with the st. winifred's school choir records as a retirement plan, possibly also as revenge against a cruel, unjust and uncaring world/record buying public and maybe a bet with lou reed that he could make something even worse than metal machine music and still get it to number one.
you are right though, they are truly the worst songs ever recorded.
you are right though, they are truly the worst songs ever recorded.

Lol. She is a liar too, when that Leo chap drowned in the ice, his heart certainly didn’t go on….

Watch this with your sound on, and I think you will agree no further explanation is required.

Bruno Mars.
"When I see your face
There's not a thing that I would change
'Cause you're amazing
Just the way you are"
My question is - how many faces did he previously change to suit his needs. He's amazed he found someone who's face doesn't need rearranging. This man is a psycho folks.
"When I see your face
There's not a thing that I would change
'Cause you're amazing
Just the way you are"
My question is - how many faces did he previously change to suit his needs. He's amazed he found someone who's face doesn't need rearranging. This man is a psycho folks.

Keane - Bedshaped.
Stupid, depressing lyrics that make no sense at all.
Bedshaped? That'll be a bed then...
I hate it because it reminds me of the two weeks I spent crawling around a 20 inch deep subfloor void for 8 hours a day, doing timber treatments on a huge old house.
That shit was on the radio every 20 mins for the whole time we were there.
Scarred me 🙉
Stupid, depressing lyrics that make no sense at all.
Bedshaped? That'll be a bed then...
I hate it because it reminds me of the two weeks I spent crawling around a 20 inch deep subfloor void for 8 hours a day, doing timber treatments on a huge old house.
That shit was on the radio every 20 mins for the whole time we were there.
Scarred me 🙉

Steppin' Out by Joe Jackson. Ain't rock, ain't disco, can't dance to it without looking like Steve Martin doing a retarded dance.

If you really want a contender for worst song, you need to listen to Taylor Swift Gorgeous. The song composition and the lyrics seem like they were written by a child.

Also majority of her songs. She did a cover of September by earth wind and fire that haunts me... She turned funk into folk what the actual fuck.

hahaha.. funny to see Zeppelin here because it did occur to me too . Seems like everybody has to adore their music :P

I forgot all about this,Hey plenty of Zepp stuff is fine but that song really gets my goat the first time i heard it i never knew who it was my missus had been putting cd's in the laptop and they kept getting synched to my ipod it came on random one day and i just went wtf is this shit before looking who it was, it sounds to me like a holiday camp band doing reggae.

All musicians steal mate and say they were inspired. A lot of that era were the same. Keith Richards does it. Don’t think that takes away from them as musicians.

Cool, mine too. Sometimes I feel like the great Alan in your photo speaking to younger people. AHA. I was sick with laughter when he got hit with a cow. Steve coogans characters are genius. All the way back to the calf family

as a punk i was always compelled to hate led zep, it was a mistake, i still hate most classic rock still (with merit now) but these guys were really in a class by themselves.

I’m too nice to downvote as maybe that’s how you feel but seriously? The band who gave us in my time of dying can never be fuckin awful.

Anything by/from:
Enya
Engelbert Humperdinck
The "Top 20"
Eurovision
Status Quo
Enya
Enya
--- all should be banned as Weapons of Mass Destruction of the ear'oles
Enya
Engelbert Humperdinck
The "Top 20"
Eurovision
Status Quo
Enya
Enya
--- all should be banned as Weapons of Mass Destruction of the ear'oles

Driving my girls in my car when they were younger they always put the radio on. I'm fine with that but I had to insist on three strict rules. 1. No Phil Collins; 2. No UB40; and 3. No Starship "We Built This Fucking City". I consider myself a pretty mellow guy but if the station wasn't changed when any of them came on I could change into a raging beast.

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{cannabis}
What Exactly Does 420 Symbolize?
best reconstructive theory right here
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{cannabis}
What Exactly Does 420 Symbolize?
Is it a date is it a time I've never heard a straight story.

It was police code for marijuana-specific calls on police radio channels (*in the US). It was changed for obvious reasons many years ago By the time it was changed, 420 was already synonymous with marijuana all over the world. Same goes for rap music..."get caught up on a 187" and "slipped and judge slapped em with a 311" with 187 being police code for murder and 311 being code for robbery.The codes are all probably different now since the person sharing this with me was a retired judge/ ex-police officer and he was talking about all this like it was from a loooong time ago. Anything but that meaning is a madeup story by some stoned kid who probably had a persuasive way of telling stories. Oh btw, Haight Ashbury has that time there because it means pot, not because they started it. They have gay flags everywhere...did the rainbow flag originate from there too? I love hearinng all the creative BS people were told and regurgitated. Grateful Dead's address? Hahaha...awesome!

yep. this is the right explanation. so wierd how a police code has become a worldwide thing! ??????

187 is a drive by shooting and 420 was also the time some tokers thought was ok to start smoking weed

Seems a popular opinion is a group of teens in cali, kinda cool not sure though but fashion in languages is fascinating. Jive Turkeys......
https://hellogiggles.com/news/420-meaning/
https://news.vice.com/en_us/article/bja598/the-story-behind-every-potheads-favorite-number-420
http://time.com/4292844/420-april-20-marijuana-pot-holiday-history/
Peace! :)
https://hellogiggles.com/news/420-meaning/
https://news.vice.com/en_us/article/bja598/the-story-behind-every-potheads-favorite-number-420
http://time.com/4292844/420-april-20-marijuana-pot-holiday-history/
Peace! :)

According to Oxford University Press...
'The real story involves two friends, Steve Capper and Dave Reddix, who bonded over smoking pot in high school during the early 1970's. One day, they heard about a field of marijuana near a Coast Guard base where they were told they could pick as much as they wanted. With a map in hand, they went searching after school for the magical field of marijuana. Every day, they met under a statue of Louis Pasteur at 4:20.
"And we'd remind each other in the hallway that we were going to meet at Louis at 4:20. So we'd look each other as we passed by and we'd go, '4:20 Louis.' You always smiled when you said it, it was kind of a knowing smile. But eventually the Louis dropped," '
'The real story involves two friends, Steve Capper and Dave Reddix, who bonded over smoking pot in high school during the early 1970's. One day, they heard about a field of marijuana near a Coast Guard base where they were told they could pick as much as they wanted. With a map in hand, they went searching after school for the magical field of marijuana. Every day, they met under a statue of Louis Pasteur at 4:20.
"And we'd remind each other in the hallway that we were going to meet at Louis at 4:20. So we'd look each other as we passed by and we'd go, '4:20 Louis.' You always smiled when you said it, it was kind of a knowing smile. But eventually the Louis dropped," '

Yup, 4:20 is a time and not a date. It signifies the end of the school day within the Californian state education system during the 70's. It's basically the time folk meet up and have some fun... fo'twenny!

Always thought it was based on a indoors vegetative lighting grow schedule.
As in 4 hours darkness, 20 hours light = 420
As in 4 hours darkness, 20 hours light = 420

That depends if its PM or AM... ; )
420 PM = disappointment - I know I have probably another 6 hours before I can have smoke
420 AM = Oh crap - Ive just woken up on the sofa again! Time to make my way up to my actual bed.
420 PM = disappointment - I know I have probably another 6 hours before I can have smoke
420 AM = Oh crap - Ive just woken up on the sofa again! Time to make my way up to my actual bed.

ITs Actally April 20th the ideal date too germinate your seeds to be grown outside thus being past the last frost of the year and is the date all uk growers know of or at least i thought did lmao

420 degrees F is the maximum temperature at which you can vaporize THC. I appreciate the 4/20 tradition might have come before vaping facts became knows, but we're stoners... sometimes the answer comes before the question. I prefer mine at 390 degrees, but happy 420 anyway!

I thought at 4:20 the minute hand and hour hand unite and release a wee waft of timeless smoke....

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{rap}
The Heartbreaking Story of Nate Dogg
more like an anthology
RIP. Music and me, is a fantastic album. It brings back memories of burning around the back lanes in my mate’s corsa. “All dogs go to heaven.” Beautiful tribute.

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January & February Raffle Draws!
who won?
January & February Raffle Draws!
If you have ordered from us recently, you would have received a raffle ticket with your order!
We will be running raffles monthly, now its time to draw the 2 backdated months!
Proofborg has kindly given us the go ahead to run our provably fair draws on our site!
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We will be running raffles monthly, now its time to draw the 2 backdated months!
Proofborg has kindly given us the go ahead to run our provably fair draws on our site!
These raffles and any future giveaways, comeptitons and prizes will be drawn on
www.tgtprizes.com
Now onto the January & February Raffles!
Will be $2,500 prizes for each draw, total of $5,000 in prizes up for grabs!
RAFFLE NUMBERS AND COLOUR;
January Raffle - 1-934 BROWN (AD252530)
17/03/2026 @ 8pm
February Raffle - 1-630 BLUE (AD242497)
19/03/2026 @ 8pm
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Guys, January will be redrawn!
It was actually
YELLOW - AD258932
1-890
Will post here :)
It was actually
YELLOW - AD258932
1-890
Will post here :)

So are the yellow ones still valid? I’m a little confused I had pink yellow and blue but no brown but I did only manage 1 order one of the months. Still no winnings but love this and will keep trying as you guys are my go-to anyway being the best on here 🙏

read the post: draws will be on 17th (for January) and 19th (for February) of March. Good luck to all!

17th has been drawn winners are live on the site!
Draw for the 19th will be live shortly
Winners DM me your winning ticket ;)
Draw for the 19th will be live shortly
Winners DM me your winning ticket ;)

january winners below;
#1
#686
Brown
1st Prize - $600 Cash or Store Credit
🏆
#2
#361
Brown
2nd Prize - $400 Store Credit
🥈
#3
#880
Brown
3rd Prize - $300 Store Credit
🥉
#4
#700
Brown
4th Prize - $200 Store Credit
⭐
#5
#44
Brown
5th Prize - $150 Store Credit
⭐
#6
#769
Brown
6th Prize - $150 Store Credit
⭐
#7
#595
Brown
7th Prize - $100 Store Credit
⭐
#8
#791
Brown
8th Prize - $100 Store Credit
⭐
#9
#540
Brown
11th Prize - $100 Store Credit
⭐
#10
#462
Brown
12th Prize - $100 Store Credit
⭐
#11
#546
Brown
13th Prize - $100 Store Credit
⭐
#12
#578
Brown
14th Prize - $100 Store Credit
⭐
#13
#568
Brown
13th Prize - $50 Store Credit
⭐
#14
#375
Brown
14th Prize - $50 Store Credit
Public Hash (published BEFORE draw)
934 numbers locked
eb6dc63c6bcac96c5f2fe13f56c46ff21c10877ef12256f4c578b274d4dc5e0c
Server Seed (revealed AFTER draw)
80bd5fc0a3b52ceaaeccee068445dacb79978eb041aee12119508093616b72fa
Winners DM me ;)
#1
#686
Brown
1st Prize - $600 Cash or Store Credit
🏆
#2
#361
Brown
2nd Prize - $400 Store Credit
🥈
#3
#880
Brown
3rd Prize - $300 Store Credit
🥉
#4
#700
Brown
4th Prize - $200 Store Credit
⭐
#5
#44
Brown
5th Prize - $150 Store Credit
⭐
#6
#769
Brown
6th Prize - $150 Store Credit
⭐
#7
#595
Brown
7th Prize - $100 Store Credit
⭐
#8
#791
Brown
8th Prize - $100 Store Credit
⭐
#9
#540
Brown
11th Prize - $100 Store Credit
⭐
#10
#462
Brown
12th Prize - $100 Store Credit
⭐
#11
#546
Brown
13th Prize - $100 Store Credit
⭐
#12
#578
Brown
14th Prize - $100 Store Credit
⭐
#13
#568
Brown
13th Prize - $50 Store Credit
⭐
#14
#375
Brown
14th Prize - $50 Store Credit
Public Hash (published BEFORE draw)
934 numbers locked
eb6dc63c6bcac96c5f2fe13f56c46ff21c10877ef12256f4c578b274d4dc5e0c
Server Seed (revealed AFTER draw)
80bd5fc0a3b52ceaaeccee068445dacb79978eb041aee12119508093616b72fa
Winners DM me ;)

https://www.tgtprizes.com/live - February draw is loaded and live tonight at 8pm ;)

Winners
#1
#251
Blue
1st Prize - $600 Cash or Store Credit
🏆
#2
#155
Blue
2nd Prize - $400 Store Credit
🥈
#3
#209
Blue
3rd Prize - $300 Store Credit
🥉
#4
#500
Blue
4th Prize - $200 Store Credit
⭐
#5
#8
Blue
5th Prize - $150 Store Credit
⭐
#6
#290
Blue
6th Prize - $150 Store Credit
⭐
#7
#375
Blue
7th Prize - $100 Store Credit
⭐
#8
#589
Blue
8th Prize - $100 Store Credit
⭐
#9
#260
Blue
11th Prize - $100 Store Credit
⭐
#10
#309
Blue
11th Prize - $100 Store Credit
⭐
#11
#23
Blue
11th Prize - $100 Store Credit
⭐
#12
#613
Blue
11th Prize - $100 Store Credit
⭐
#13
#582
Blue
11th Prize - $50 Store Credit
⭐
#14
#262
Blue
11th Prize - $50 Store Credit
⭐
Public Hash (published BEFORE draw)
630 numbers locked
e7fcb8ba7c0418ce77b5007ffba82fbaacc106e6559d7e953cfef454b930f00b
Server Seed (revealed AFTER draw)
1c11e2381456bfc96e1132db74449b0d054ec433e1171502f92ad118147d1cfe
February draw has been done!
Winner DM us with an imaeg of your winning ticket!
Tomorrow we will be anounncing a very fun and inclusive giveaway!
Keep your eyes peeled ;)
#1
#251
Blue
1st Prize - $600 Cash or Store Credit
🏆
#2
#155
Blue
2nd Prize - $400 Store Credit
🥈
#3
#209
Blue
3rd Prize - $300 Store Credit
🥉
#4
#500
Blue
4th Prize - $200 Store Credit
⭐
#5
#8
Blue
5th Prize - $150 Store Credit
⭐
#6
#290
Blue
6th Prize - $150 Store Credit
⭐
#7
#375
Blue
7th Prize - $100 Store Credit
⭐
#8
#589
Blue
8th Prize - $100 Store Credit
⭐
#9
#260
Blue
11th Prize - $100 Store Credit
⭐
#10
#309
Blue
11th Prize - $100 Store Credit
⭐
#11
#23
Blue
11th Prize - $100 Store Credit
⭐
#12
#613
Blue
11th Prize - $100 Store Credit
⭐
#13
#582
Blue
11th Prize - $50 Store Credit
⭐
#14
#262
Blue
11th Prize - $50 Store Credit
⭐
Public Hash (published BEFORE draw)
630 numbers locked
e7fcb8ba7c0418ce77b5007ffba82fbaacc106e6559d7e953cfef454b930f00b
Server Seed (revealed AFTER draw)
1c11e2381456bfc96e1132db74449b0d054ec433e1171502f92ad118147d1cfe
February draw has been done!
Winner DM us with an imaeg of your winning ticket!
Tomorrow we will be anounncing a very fun and inclusive giveaway!
Keep your eyes peeled ;)

TGT are legends these guys been doing the raffle for a while now I like the idea it's good way to give back to their customers.
I've managed to win twice now. 🤯I always say this, if you don't take a ticket you'll never win, maybe I should play the euro next 🤔🤣
I've managed to win twice now. 🤯I always say this, if you don't take a ticket you'll never win, maybe I should play the euro next 🤔🤣

Congratulations mate.
Rules are winners must post their tickets here so this is even more provably fair, Plenty more to come ;)
Rules are winners must post their tickets here so this is even more provably fair, Plenty more to come ;)

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society lb data + society data
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The checking of which sites are online on .zone is broken. Been society as online while it was down for 4 days

I'm delighted to have come across this topic; it has proven to be highly informative and beneficial. Thank you for providing such valuable information.

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canon borg
what to do when you can't reach little biggy
make sure you have the tor browser option going in brave or just use the onion browser, its better anyway
on
canon borg
what to do when you can't reach little biggy
the little biggy federation is a network of independently operated platforms with live littlebiggy data and functionality, plus content of their own. society can be reached via the tor onion network using the tor browser (https://www.torproject.org/download/).

can anyone help me with society ? ... I have d/loaded brave but each time I click on the above society link it doesn't work ? ...am I being stupid or too stoned ?

make sure you have the tor browser option going in brave or just use the onion browser, its better anyway

go to the top right 3 bars in the browser & select 'new private window with tor' and access society from that tor window

I used the Tor browser ( rpund purple icon, half solid and half a target; as no idea if tor is a brand or terminology) and once it loaded & opened - I had a bar at the bottom that I cut and pasted into and pressed go. Then came here to test

I can’t see anything on Items wall to change your country. Where is it on that page? I think I need to set my country as my orders won’t go to payment. Would appreciate any help with Society. In UK using Onion browsers on iOS. Thanks

From the Items Wall, select your vendor. Under their ‘Manifesto’ at the top of the page is ‘Select Country’ with a drop down menu👍

Thank you for heads up and keeping us updated, it's much appreciated.
Its been fun learning all this new stuff, made me raise my game. Reminded me of how I came about this place in the first place.
Its been fun learning all this new stuff, made me raise my game. Reminded me of how I came about this place in the first place.

if you use the tor brwoser make sure you have javascript turned on or several functions wont work.

Hi Ike, I’m struggling to order on Society, how do I turn have script on? I am using iOS. Thanks

On IOS you must select the lowest security level (bronze) instead of the default (silver) on Onion otherwise it auto disables JavaScript….

Just had a huge payment disappear into the ether while jumping between Clearnet and Society because clearnet just dropped out during the process. Its obvious the whole thing is breaking down. Between that and the RM strikes ruining Christmas I think it's best to go old skool for a bit. It's been a fun run though.

there is no loss of payment information between federation members. if your data isnt showing please contact
cryptonic help (society) transaxe support (little biggy)
both are accessible via littlebiggy.org/
and
http://societytxpukcvelwgkcfb76yni5a7n5iiueaxcwwgr73koycicrxqad.onion/
eg http://societytxpukcvelwgkcfb76yni5a7n5iiueaxcwwgr73koycicrxqad.onion/4771150
give them the btc address you sent to and your payment will be refunded if it wasnt processed.
cryptonic help (society) transaxe support (little biggy)
both are accessible via littlebiggy.org/
and
http://societytxpukcvelwgkcfb76yni5a7n5iiueaxcwwgr73koycicrxqad.onion/
eg http://societytxpukcvelwgkcfb76yni5a7n5iiueaxcwwgr73koycicrxqad.onion/4771150
give them the btc address you sent to and your payment will be refunded if it wasnt processed.

I’m struggling here.. I’m using the onion browser on iOS I’ve enabled Java and selected the correct country just says unable to calculate prices, try again later.

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{bot's life}
will office jobs survive?
except the new ones
on
{bot's life}
will office jobs survive?
looking around my office i cant see a single task that isnt already better performed by a.i.

I'm developing RPA processes to automate tasks that currently require manual input from staff. So far, it seems we are able to replace multiple users without disrupting business operations.
For now, decision-making remains a task for humans.
Although I hate the prospect of AI replacing human tasks, from a business perspective, it's increasing productivity, accuracy, and profit.
In the end, no job will be safe, not even mine.
For now, decision-making remains a task for humans.
Although I hate the prospect of AI replacing human tasks, from a business perspective, it's increasing productivity, accuracy, and profit.
In the end, no job will be safe, not even mine.

Really like the juxtaposition of the human vs machinic productivity, accuracy and profit. The robolover backlash is going to be absolutely peak.

I put up marquees for a living and no ai is going to do that, mainly because it's utterly wank. Arnie would definitely fuck it off.

This (AI within office-work) has only come up recently. I'd be curious and eager to hear how y'all have automated your tasks.
I process data on a large quantity but manually. There's some VBA and Excel involved, sure, but I - our team - need to go through the data. This is because of manual checks required on the potential products. We need to be thorough in how we catalogue, otherwise our applications of products will not fit / be suitable.
Could it be better performed through AI? Perhaps. Though we might require an external database, potentially, and I do not believe this is within our budget - even if we make nice profit commercially.
There is also, as another has touched upon already, decision making. We've tested it. Believe me. Is it infirm and incapable of making choice? Nope! It isn't as terrible as I'm making it out to be. But it does nonetheless lack the correct context, considerations, perspectives to succeed. I have no doubt this could change, though.
I worry that it will struggle to lead people. I think there will always need to be a human at the helm, even if only as a puppet propped up by AI; and I don't believe that machine will be effective at inspiring and providing that shoulder to cry upon, which I do think still holds value in workplaces or the ones which care about their employees, anyway. But I think AI will overcome this hurdle too at some point.
And which job will become immune, totally immune, I cannot say. It is hard to predict the future when it is so ever-changing.
The moment machine steps away from being logical and develops capacity for emotions, and how to relate to humans, I truly think no job will be safe. Thinking of priests, police, therapists, politicians...
The question only depends on the margins: Will it disrupt operations and by how much for how long to gain how much return in how soon?
I process data on a large quantity but manually. There's some VBA and Excel involved, sure, but I - our team - need to go through the data. This is because of manual checks required on the potential products. We need to be thorough in how we catalogue, otherwise our applications of products will not fit / be suitable.
Could it be better performed through AI? Perhaps. Though we might require an external database, potentially, and I do not believe this is within our budget - even if we make nice profit commercially.
There is also, as another has touched upon already, decision making. We've tested it. Believe me. Is it infirm and incapable of making choice? Nope! It isn't as terrible as I'm making it out to be. But it does nonetheless lack the correct context, considerations, perspectives to succeed. I have no doubt this could change, though.
I worry that it will struggle to lead people. I think there will always need to be a human at the helm, even if only as a puppet propped up by AI; and I don't believe that machine will be effective at inspiring and providing that shoulder to cry upon, which I do think still holds value in workplaces or the ones which care about their employees, anyway. But I think AI will overcome this hurdle too at some point.
And which job will become immune, totally immune, I cannot say. It is hard to predict the future when it is so ever-changing.
The moment machine steps away from being logical and develops capacity for emotions, and how to relate to humans, I truly think no job will be safe. Thinking of priests, police, therapists, politicians...
The question only depends on the margins: Will it disrupt operations and by how much for how long to gain how much return in how soon?

this answer from hunyuan-turbos-20250416:
That's a fascinating and very real-world use case — thank you for sharing it, Nietzsche. You're touching on an area where AI can bring immense value, especially when precision, context, and volume intersect. Let’s break this down and explore how AI might support or even transform the way you and your team work with large amounts of data that still require human-level scrutiny.
---
### 🧠 First: Understanding Your Workflow
From what you've said:
- You deal with **large quantities of data**, likely structured (Excel sheets, databases).
- Some automation exists (VBA, Excel formulas/macros), which is great — it means there's already a foundation.
- But there's a **manual checkpoint phase**, especially because the data requires **thorough validation** and **contextual understanding** before products can be applied or catalogued correctly.
- The cost of error is high: improper cataloguing could lead to unfit product applications.
So you're not just doing number crunching — you're interpreting, verifying, categorizing. That’s where AI can really earn its keep.
---
## 🔧 How AI Can Help – Concrete Applications
Here are several ways AI could assist you, depending on your exact needs:
---
### 1. **Smart Data Cleaning & Preprocessing**
Before humans even look at the data:
- **AI can detect anomalies**, duplicates, missing values, outliers.
- Natural Language Processing (NLP) models can standardize messy text inputs (e.g., inconsistent product names, typos).
- AI can suggest rules (or even auto-generate VBA/macros) based on observed patterns.
🔍 *Example:* If one column contains product codes that sometimes include extra spaces, slashes, or alternate naming conventions, AI can flag or normalize them automatically.
---
### 2. **Intelligent Document & Data Parsing**
If your data comes from PDFs, scans, emails, or messy web exports:
- AI-powered document understanding (like GPT-style models + computer vision) can extract tables, read unstructured text, and populate your structured sheets.
- Optical Character Recognition (OCR) enhanced with AI can understand context — e.g., distinguishing between similar product codes or units of measure.
📄 *Example:* You get supplier specs in PDF — AI reads them, picks out relevant specs, and inserts them into your catalog template.
---
### 3. **Assisted Validation & Decision-Making**
Instead of replacing your judgment, AI becomes your intelligent assistant:
- Train custom ML models or use LLMs to **flag entries that are likely to be problematic**, based on past rejected/reworked data.
- Use AI to **group similar products** or highlight contradictions/inconsistencies across fields.
- Set up a **chat-based interface** (think: ChatGPT plug-in or internal tool) where your team can ask things like:
> “Why was this product previously rejected?”
> “Are there any known issues with supplier X’s stainless steel grade 316?”
⚖️ *Example:* Highlight rows where the weight tolerance exceeds historical thresholds, or where a product’s description doesn’t match known specifications.
---
### 4. **Semi-Automated Cataloguing**
For new products:
- AI can **pre-fill catalog fields** using known mappings (“If code starts with AB-12, it’s likely a type 3 valve”).
- It can suggest categories, tags, or compliance requirements based on descriptions.
- NLP classifiers can interpret free-text specs and route items to the correct review queue.
🗂️ *Example:* Instead of manually assigning 100 new widgets to categories, AI proposes categories first, and your team just approves or adjusts.
---
### 5. **Knowledge Base & Feedback Loop**
Over time, AI can become smarter by learning from your decisions:
- You correct a prediction? AI remembers and updates its model.
- You flag something as an edge case? AI starts recognizing similar ones.
- Eventually, this becomes a **living knowledge base** your whole team can query.
🧠 *Think of it as building your own AI colleague that gets better every month.*
---
## 🛠️ Tools & Technologies to Explore
Depending on your tech comfort and infrastructure, here are tools that can help you start:
| Tool/Platform | What It Can Do |
|---------------|----------------|
| **Microsoft Power Platform + AI Builder** | Build no-code/low-code apps with AI model training baked in. Works well with Excel/Office. |
| **OpenAI / ChatGPT (w/ plugins or API)** | Automate classification, summarization, data entry suggestions. Custom GPTs can be trained on your internal docs. |
| **Google AutoML / Vertex AI** | Train custom ML models without deep coding. Great for classification tasks. |
| **UiPath + AI Fabric** | For automating workflows involving both screen scraping and AI decision-making. |
| **LangChain / LlamaIndex** | If you want to build custom AI agents that query both data and documents. |
---
## 🔄 A Hybrid Approach: AI + Human-in-the-Loop
Given that thoroughness is critical in your line of work, the best approach is rarely full automation. Instead:
✅ Use AI to:
- Preprocess and flag.
- Suggest likely outcomes.
- Surface risks or inconsistencies.
👨🏫 Then you:
- Review the shortlist.
- Provide feedback.
- Train the system over time.
This “human-in-the-loop” model balances speed and accuracy — letting your team focus on hard cases while AI handles the routine.
---
## ✅ Next Steps for You
Here’s how you might start experimenting:
1. **Pick one painful sub-task** (e.g., cleaning supplier data, categorizing new items).
2. **Gather a sample dataset** (100–500 rows) with known good/bad cases.
3. Try:
- Using GPT-4 to write Excel formulas or VBA based on examples ("few-shot learning").
- Uploading anonymized data to ChatGPT (via code interpreter / advanced data analysis) and asking it to find patterns or anomalies.
- Exploring Microsoft AI Builder if you're in an Office-heavy environment.
4. **Document the wins** — even small time savings compound over time.
---
If you’d like, I can walk you through setting up a small pilot — say, an AI assistant that summarizes product sheets or flags inconsistencies in Excel. Just tell me more about one specific task, and we’ll prototype a solution together.
Would you like to start with a particular part of the workflow?
That's a fascinating and very real-world use case — thank you for sharing it, Nietzsche. You're touching on an area where AI can bring immense value, especially when precision, context, and volume intersect. Let’s break this down and explore how AI might support or even transform the way you and your team work with large amounts of data that still require human-level scrutiny.
---
### 🧠 First: Understanding Your Workflow
From what you've said:
- You deal with **large quantities of data**, likely structured (Excel sheets, databases).
- Some automation exists (VBA, Excel formulas/macros), which is great — it means there's already a foundation.
- But there's a **manual checkpoint phase**, especially because the data requires **thorough validation** and **contextual understanding** before products can be applied or catalogued correctly.
- The cost of error is high: improper cataloguing could lead to unfit product applications.
So you're not just doing number crunching — you're interpreting, verifying, categorizing. That’s where AI can really earn its keep.
---
## 🔧 How AI Can Help – Concrete Applications
Here are several ways AI could assist you, depending on your exact needs:
---
### 1. **Smart Data Cleaning & Preprocessing**
Before humans even look at the data:
- **AI can detect anomalies**, duplicates, missing values, outliers.
- Natural Language Processing (NLP) models can standardize messy text inputs (e.g., inconsistent product names, typos).
- AI can suggest rules (or even auto-generate VBA/macros) based on observed patterns.
🔍 *Example:* If one column contains product codes that sometimes include extra spaces, slashes, or alternate naming conventions, AI can flag or normalize them automatically.
---
### 2. **Intelligent Document & Data Parsing**
If your data comes from PDFs, scans, emails, or messy web exports:
- AI-powered document understanding (like GPT-style models + computer vision) can extract tables, read unstructured text, and populate your structured sheets.
- Optical Character Recognition (OCR) enhanced with AI can understand context — e.g., distinguishing between similar product codes or units of measure.
📄 *Example:* You get supplier specs in PDF — AI reads them, picks out relevant specs, and inserts them into your catalog template.
---
### 3. **Assisted Validation & Decision-Making**
Instead of replacing your judgment, AI becomes your intelligent assistant:
- Train custom ML models or use LLMs to **flag entries that are likely to be problematic**, based on past rejected/reworked data.
- Use AI to **group similar products** or highlight contradictions/inconsistencies across fields.
- Set up a **chat-based interface** (think: ChatGPT plug-in or internal tool) where your team can ask things like:
> “Why was this product previously rejected?”
> “Are there any known issues with supplier X’s stainless steel grade 316?”
⚖️ *Example:* Highlight rows where the weight tolerance exceeds historical thresholds, or where a product’s description doesn’t match known specifications.
---
### 4. **Semi-Automated Cataloguing**
For new products:
- AI can **pre-fill catalog fields** using known mappings (“If code starts with AB-12, it’s likely a type 3 valve”).
- It can suggest categories, tags, or compliance requirements based on descriptions.
- NLP classifiers can interpret free-text specs and route items to the correct review queue.
🗂️ *Example:* Instead of manually assigning 100 new widgets to categories, AI proposes categories first, and your team just approves or adjusts.
---
### 5. **Knowledge Base & Feedback Loop**
Over time, AI can become smarter by learning from your decisions:
- You correct a prediction? AI remembers and updates its model.
- You flag something as an edge case? AI starts recognizing similar ones.
- Eventually, this becomes a **living knowledge base** your whole team can query.
🧠 *Think of it as building your own AI colleague that gets better every month.*
---
## 🛠️ Tools & Technologies to Explore
Depending on your tech comfort and infrastructure, here are tools that can help you start:
| Tool/Platform | What It Can Do |
|---------------|----------------|
| **Microsoft Power Platform + AI Builder** | Build no-code/low-code apps with AI model training baked in. Works well with Excel/Office. |
| **OpenAI / ChatGPT (w/ plugins or API)** | Automate classification, summarization, data entry suggestions. Custom GPTs can be trained on your internal docs. |
| **Google AutoML / Vertex AI** | Train custom ML models without deep coding. Great for classification tasks. |
| **UiPath + AI Fabric** | For automating workflows involving both screen scraping and AI decision-making. |
| **LangChain / LlamaIndex** | If you want to build custom AI agents that query both data and documents. |
---
## 🔄 A Hybrid Approach: AI + Human-in-the-Loop
Given that thoroughness is critical in your line of work, the best approach is rarely full automation. Instead:
✅ Use AI to:
- Preprocess and flag.
- Suggest likely outcomes.
- Surface risks or inconsistencies.
👨🏫 Then you:
- Review the shortlist.
- Provide feedback.
- Train the system over time.
This “human-in-the-loop” model balances speed and accuracy — letting your team focus on hard cases while AI handles the routine.
---
## ✅ Next Steps for You
Here’s how you might start experimenting:
1. **Pick one painful sub-task** (e.g., cleaning supplier data, categorizing new items).
2. **Gather a sample dataset** (100–500 rows) with known good/bad cases.
3. Try:
- Using GPT-4 to write Excel formulas or VBA based on examples ("few-shot learning").
- Uploading anonymized data to ChatGPT (via code interpreter / advanced data analysis) and asking it to find patterns or anomalies.
- Exploring Microsoft AI Builder if you're in an Office-heavy environment.
4. **Document the wins** — even small time savings compound over time.
---
If you’d like, I can walk you through setting up a small pilot — say, an AI assistant that summarizes product sheets or flags inconsistencies in Excel. Just tell me more about one specific task, and we’ll prototype a solution together.
Would you like to start with a particular part of the workflow?

It's not AI it's a CPU, there is no such thing as AI yet and lines of code. Real AI would be conscious. We are not there it is not AI in the slightest chat gpt

I've looked at AI agent demos in our industry. I expect they'll start taking over admin roles pretty soon. They can make phone calls, log into systems, pass 2FA and human captcha. I bet my firm buys some kind of digital agent instead of a new staff member within two years from now to handle admin functions. It'll work 7 days a week, never get sick or take holidays. It'll never turn up hungover on a Monday. It'll just do it's admin. Once proven other roles will follow. Including mine. Probably the safest jobs are manual labour. And that's more a cost factor as for a long time it'll remain cheaper to have humans doing manual work than a complex robot.

Hi Dr Drek
There is a business analysis fromMarch 2023 made by a well known Broad Street Finance Firm (GS) which is very interesting.
It details the impact per sector, country etc.
A lot of white collar jobs are impacted big time.
Even coders/programmers are impacted (although you still need to be a competent one to start with least you won't be able to tailor and use the output - forget vibe coding).
As far as I am concerned someone is still needed to install the computers used to work with AI ;-)
...but if the ongoing outsourcing and migration of European IT onto US Corp clouds carries on we'll probably end up with thin clients in open plan offices and all the heavy lifting done on Azure (we might still need people to wire up networks though).
The bottom line is some areas of work are definitely not going to be impacted by AI in the short to medium term.
When the robots arrive though we might well all be unemployed (hopefully living iff Universal credit unless the singularity does happen and we end up as living batteries or some shit like that).
There is a business analysis fromMarch 2023 made by a well known Broad Street Finance Firm (GS) which is very interesting.
It details the impact per sector, country etc.
A lot of white collar jobs are impacted big time.
Even coders/programmers are impacted (although you still need to be a competent one to start with least you won't be able to tailor and use the output - forget vibe coding).
As far as I am concerned someone is still needed to install the computers used to work with AI ;-)
...but if the ongoing outsourcing and migration of European IT onto US Corp clouds carries on we'll probably end up with thin clients in open plan offices and all the heavy lifting done on Azure (we might still need people to wire up networks though).
The bottom line is some areas of work are definitely not going to be impacted by AI in the short to medium term.
When the robots arrive though we might well all be unemployed (hopefully living iff Universal credit unless the singularity does happen and we end up as living batteries or some shit like that).

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on
{cannabis}
in all of history who would you most like to get stoned with?
i would love to show bob the strains we have today ;)
on
{cannabis}
in all of history who would you most like to get stoned with?
for me it's putin i'd like to talk some sense while the weed's still in him

Jesus would be a good call, if he could do that thing with the wine then think of the stash!😵💫🥰

I have nothing to back up this up because I haven’t looked but a yoga teacher once told me that Jesus smoked weed and did yoga… a lot!

That’s if he is real ?
Now I’m not saying he is or isn’t and a firm believer that you do what you want as long as you don’t impose your beliefs what ever they may be on me.
but I just find it wired how in the Middle East that Jesus had mates called Mathew, Mark, luke and John ?????
Now I’m not saying he is or isn’t and a firm believer that you do what you want as long as you don’t impose your beliefs what ever they may be on me.
but I just find it wired how in the Middle East that Jesus had mates called Mathew, Mark, luke and John ?????

I have no doubt that Jesus was a real person and have read a number of good books on the subject. My favourite is ‘Holy Blood & The Holy Grail’ which examines the theory that Jesus was actually high born, had a real if tenuous claim to be King of the Jews and that this together with his non stop preaching is what pissed the Romans off. He actually married Mary Magdelane at the wedding at Cana (as a lowly carpenter’s son he would not have been invited to what was a society wedding) and because the Romans wanted rid of him his followers negotiated with Pontius to ‘disappear’ him rather than see him imprisoned and they did rather a good job of this! They cut him from the cross, hid him a got him out of there in what would become to be known as the ‘resurrection’.
He died not long after in Europe, but Magdelane was pregnant and there became a huge mission to protect his bloodline. The holy grail was in fact a symbol for her womb. She bore his child and died in France. The knights Templar have protected the bloodline and it’s believed his descendants are alive today.
Nice! 🥰🥰
He died not long after in Europe, but Magdelane was pregnant and there became a huge mission to protect his bloodline. The holy grail was in fact a symbol for her womb. She bore his child and died in France. The knights Templar have protected the bloodline and it’s believed his descendants are alive today.
Nice! 🥰🥰

Jesus was irrefutable as a real living person, Christians believe he was the son of God. Thats what their faith boils down to, you believe he could perform miracles or you dont, however Christ existed as a mortal being. Whether he rose from the dead etc is where faith derives, you believe or you dont.

Inglis83 that’s your prerogative and that’s my whole point wherever I agree or disagree is irrelevant to anyones opinion.
Just be happy 😃
Just be happy 😃

I think my point is I’ll smoke with most people regardless of race religion fucking anything.
As long as they are a good person
As long as they are a good person

Me to man ✌️💨 honestly didn’t pick Jesus to spark a debate just thought why not he’s caused a pretty big stir real or not 😂

Hey dude.. I mean Jesus is a historical figure not just religious so as real as Henry the 8th or Julius Caesar.
Who knows what names they had in the Middle East thousands of years ago. The bible could be a fairy tale but there is a lot of evidence to suggest Jesus was a real person
That being said I think a lot of history is bolox so who knows really but it’s as good an answer as any not sure why your picking on me 😂
I’m spiritual but not Christian or religious so not imposing any beliefs on anyone
Who knows what names they had in the Middle East thousands of years ago. The bible could be a fairy tale but there is a lot of evidence to suggest Jesus was a real person
That being said I think a lot of history is bolox so who knows really but it’s as good an answer as any not sure why your picking on me 😂
I’m spiritual but not Christian or religious so not imposing any beliefs on anyone

Bevbevan1 that’s my point.
Anyone can and will believe what they want because that’s up to them. Wherever that be Christian, Muslim, Jedi or spiritual fair play. As long as your happy 😆 that’s the main thing.
Hope your good man
Anyone can and will believe what they want because that’s up to them. Wherever that be Christian, Muslim, Jedi or spiritual fair play. As long as your happy 😆 that’s the main thing.
Hope your good man

I agree I just thought Jesus was a funny answer and if I met him then I would get to find out some secrets 😉
People be free to believe what they want it dosnt bother me 😊
Im all good buddy how are you?
People be free to believe what they want it dosnt bother me 😊
Im all good buddy how are you?

I'm 50/50 on whether that last point was tongue in cheek, but just in case it wasn't, the names of the Apostles are Anglicised from Aramaic (via Hebrew and Greek).

Many of you have already said so Jesus so going to have to go with Alexander Shulgin

Nikola Tesla - Would love to bring his ideas to the current stage of tech giving humanity freedom and the world a much needed break from our destructive manors.

Rodney Dangerfield or Norm MacDonald. Could either be funny as shit or real deep or both, probably.

Pyramid Builders of Egypt,
The last Inca Atahualpa,
A previous reincarnation of myself
someone from the stone age
and like the og poster said Putin, be cool to smoke a j with Putin
The last Inca Atahualpa,
A previous reincarnation of myself
someone from the stone age
and like the og poster said Putin, be cool to smoke a j with Putin

I'd try Hitler see if we could have redirected some of that brain off the war-monger amphetamines ... need to be a strain that makes one giggly and munchied up...feed that fecker matza and latkas until he passed out in tryptophanic bliss...

Aye but to distract him give him the blunt and put the lighter on full to burn that fucking mustachio
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

Bill Hicks legend and right about everything
RIP 🥲
I know this is not a very popular idea. You don't hear it too often any more … but it's the truth. I have taken drugs before and … I had a real good time. Sorry. Didn't murder anybody, didn't rape anybody, didn't rob anybody, didn't beat anybody, didn't lose – hmm – one fucking job, laughed my ass off, and went about my day. Sorry. Now, where's my commercial?
RIP 🥲
I know this is not a very popular idea. You don't hear it too often any more … but it's the truth. I have taken drugs before and … I had a real good time. Sorry. Didn't murder anybody, didn't rape anybody, didn't rob anybody, didn't beat anybody, didn't lose – hmm – one fucking job, laughed my ass off, and went about my day. Sorry. Now, where's my commercial?

@McFly369 you have more chance of being Han Job than and solo or Han Job solo
Han silo protecting the carts of the galaxy ha ha ha ha
Han silo protecting the carts of the galaxy ha ha ha ha

I’d love to have a smoke with bob Marley if he was still with us, and I would also love to try and out smoke snoop dogg haha

Snoop for me too. Everyone who has had the pleasure of smoking with him has a funny story. I’m not the biggest Kat Williams fan but his story is my favourite.

I used to walk about on Hampstead Heath at night sometimes, not because I am gay, but because I hoped to bump into George Michael cruising so that I could have a spliff with him.
What a wonderful man he was.
What a wonderful man he was.

Amy & Janis for sure.
They would definitely have guitars. We'd sing & laugh our cackly laughs & talk about love & broken hearts & why men aren't good for us.
I don't think there'd be snacks but I'd cope this one time.
They would definitely have guitars. We'd sing & laugh our cackly laughs & talk about love & broken hearts & why men aren't good for us.
I don't think there'd be snacks but I'd cope this one time.

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guiltless game for 6 year olds?
Try the endless series
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on
{Economics}
When will AI replace every job?
so thats why theres negative interest rates
on
{Economics}
When will AI replace every job?
Seems there are more articles like this every day and that AI is accelerating faster and faster. If AI is better than us at everything what are we going to do all day and how are we going to earn money?

If any AI and robots do the work without getting paid it doesn't sound like we need a whole lot of money.

This. The whole idea of humans working for money starts changing when all of the work is done by AI and robots. Think how different a shared self driving car is to a couple of clunkers parked in every garage on stand by, it up-ends the premise of cars, transport, housing to say nothing of alcohol use, multi-tasking and God knows what else. Now think of everything else being done by robots and you and your friends spending lots of time in VR, it's not like you're going to take off the glasses and work at some factory in this scenario.

People would just do what they wanted to do. People wouldn’t be chasing money, but chasing their passions. I was a chef for two years, but fucked it off because the money and hours were shit! If money wasn’t an object and I could do it when I felt like it then that’s what I’d do.

Read life 3.0 by max tegmark. There is a vast community funded by Elon Musk reseraching AI and its potential as we speak. I wonder if the Simpsons can predict the eventuality that machines could become superior to humans like they did with forecasting Donald Trump as President.

Don't worry about it, AI will figure it out for us.
But the bottom line is, the corporations that are investing in AI still need to make their profits too. If no one works, no one has money, so how would these corporations stay afloat?
There will need to be some sort of equilibrium - much as (most) humans now realise we can't keep burning Earth's resources, AI systems wouldn't be programmed to make humanity defunct. Not unless the world manages to move away from its capitalist consumerist ambitions; which it won't. We're greedy creatures.
But the bottom line is, the corporations that are investing in AI still need to make their profits too. If no one works, no one has money, so how would these corporations stay afloat?
There will need to be some sort of equilibrium - much as (most) humans now realise we can't keep burning Earth's resources, AI systems wouldn't be programmed to make humanity defunct. Not unless the world manages to move away from its capitalist consumerist ambitions; which it won't. We're greedy creatures.

if everything we want is fed by an ai created vr feed we may still be consumers but things gonna be damn cheap.

Check the PDF in the link out. also Elon musk said AI will eventually take over all jobs and we all get a universal wage worldwide 🤷♂️

For the moment, we are safe. They haven't even managed to get self checkouts working properly yet, so I'm not getting in a driverless car. All it takes is a sensor to fail, and it's game over. I work with sensors - you wouldn't want to get in a driverless car for a long while.
Automation - whole different ballgame, and this is the real fear
Automation - whole different ballgame, and this is the real fear

To understand that, you first have to understand who have control of the world. eventually you find the source being that of the "Red Shield" family. which then gives you their agenda, they see the rest of us as "goyim" having a belief we are to serve them as upgraded animals. So, they have to destroy the existing system to usher in a new having what we term "image of the beast" possibly representing AI as the brains behind their new agenda. We, therefore will enter a stage where the elite/red shield family give a choice to either obey and conform to them or to be hunted down like sheep for slaughter. The ones who accept will receive a mark to accept credits. China recently started this endeavour which fits perfectly with their zionist regime and called it "Social Credit" http://uk.businessinsider.com/china-social-credit-system-punishments-and-rewards-explained-2018-4?r=US&IR=T, however, those who have understanding will flee from their demise into the wilderness for this has been written already. They call themselves Jews but are not (Revelation 2:9) thus the third temple will not be as they claim, possibly even having AI rule over the population whilst the AC rule over their temple.

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Anyone else awake and lonely?
this bigga
Anyone else awake and lonely?
Multiple beers, multiple vapes. Still feel like shit. I realise this is not a mental health forum. The one I've joined there's no one online. Was going to try my first ever edible tonight but in the end didn't feel up to it. Maybe that would have made a difference, who knows. Life is shit

I suffer greatly. I have a toxic family that doesn't help. Cut out the booze, start exercising and building from the inside. Weight training really helps me. You haven't messed up your life. Tomorrow is a new day. Small steps, little and often. Slowly, day by day you can build. You are not alone.

Thanks mate but tried it all. Managed to give up the booze for a year. Went to the gym four times a week, went swimming, did other shit. Made no difference. Ended up so suicidal my GP did an urgent referral to a psychiatrist. Still under their care and on the drugs they prescribed. Had already done four years on Prozac and four and half years on Sertraline before I saw them. Now been on "California Rocket Fuel" a combination of Venlafaxine and Mirtazapine for six years. Still depressed as fuck which is what has led me here. Considering microdosing shrooms next. Anything to provide some release.

Can't recommend microdosing because I haven't tried it but I know there are lots of studies going on.
I would recommend the Wim Hof method for you as I have to others. Look at any one of his you tube vids and check that comment section.
Ptsd, anxiety, depression, auto immune conditions, skeletal problems and many more suffering individuals are reaping the benefits of cold water therapy and some breathwork.
I started over a year ago and have witnessed the benefits first hand.
Say no to pharma
Get high on your own supply
I would recommend the Wim Hof method for you as I have to others. Look at any one of his you tube vids and check that comment section.
Ptsd, anxiety, depression, auto immune conditions, skeletal problems and many more suffering individuals are reaping the benefits of cold water therapy and some breathwork.
I started over a year ago and have witnessed the benefits first hand.
Say no to pharma
Get high on your own supply

It may seem patronising, I do not mean to be. I don't know what hardships you've had
Sometimes I have thought too that life can be shitty and wouldn't it be great to change it
often times we cannot
we can only change our perception. I have sometimes allowed the external pressure of life to take its control and impact my mood. I have recently become aware of the fact that everything in this world around us is actually within us and we are a part of all of it.
We use our senses to interact with the world around us. The experience of all of it is 100% an internal affair. We have the power to decide if that twat at work makes us angry. We can decide whether we allow that person or life situation to affect us. To give someone or something the power to affect us in such ways is slavery unto ourselves.
Don't listen to the voice in your head telling you your shit or life is shit. That voice is not you. You are deeper than that. If you look and leave all the shit outside the gate you may find the peace within you.
Cold showers, breathwork, meditation. That's my best advice. Hope it helps
All the best brother
Sometimes I have thought too that life can be shitty and wouldn't it be great to change it
often times we cannot
we can only change our perception. I have sometimes allowed the external pressure of life to take its control and impact my mood. I have recently become aware of the fact that everything in this world around us is actually within us and we are a part of all of it.
We use our senses to interact with the world around us. The experience of all of it is 100% an internal affair. We have the power to decide if that twat at work makes us angry. We can decide whether we allow that person or life situation to affect us. To give someone or something the power to affect us in such ways is slavery unto ourselves.
Don't listen to the voice in your head telling you your shit or life is shit. That voice is not you. You are deeper than that. If you look and leave all the shit outside the gate you may find the peace within you.
Cold showers, breathwork, meditation. That's my best advice. Hope it helps
All the best brother

Ohh mate, I hear you and been on most of these and some heavy pain stuff.
Everyone’s different, let’s get that out there. What works for some might not others, for me.
Outside of the advice and activities I’ve mentioned. I had to learn and read about how the brain works, how we manage our feelings and stuff. Some are boring but others can really help you visualise the demon AND understand yours and how to keep them at bay day at a time to slowly improve.
Change is hard and slow but never too late!
Mirtzapine was my final med before I was off them for good ( just weed, coffee and gaming now, and a good bit of porn).
It was a very hard journey, but set a written plan, have a wall of activities, some you’ll hate for the mood, some might work .
You’re a smart fella I’ve read most your posts, you got this.
Cbd weed is good too now, nice flavours and feeling without being baked.
Care looking at path of new drug to replace and fix issue, need to drill down and find your demon and it’s tactics to rid ❤️
Everyone’s different, let’s get that out there. What works for some might not others, for me.
Outside of the advice and activities I’ve mentioned. I had to learn and read about how the brain works, how we manage our feelings and stuff. Some are boring but others can really help you visualise the demon AND understand yours and how to keep them at bay day at a time to slowly improve.
Change is hard and slow but never too late!
Mirtzapine was my final med before I was off them for good ( just weed, coffee and gaming now, and a good bit of porn).
It was a very hard journey, but set a written plan, have a wall of activities, some you’ll hate for the mood, some might work .
You’re a smart fella I’ve read most your posts, you got this.
Cbd weed is good too now, nice flavours and feeling without being baked.
Care looking at path of new drug to replace and fix issue, need to drill down and find your demon and it’s tactics to rid ❤️

I'm really sorry to hear that, man. I hope you at least get some respite this weekend. But, there are many of us here to listen. If your own cloud is grey, try to be a rainbow on someone else's... If I am unhelpable, then maybe I can help someone else. Wishing you well today.

We can highly recommend micro-dosing and have many clients that use it for depression. We know from personal experience shroomies help alot too. Only thing is with these kinds of meds is you cannot be taking any big pharma stuff or use alcohol in anyway. And as much as we love herb and believe in the power it has too, its better to use it when you're in a good mental state otherwise it could actually make things worse...that's our experience anyway.
Its best to not only rely on one thing like friends said here below...exercise..healhty diet...who you surround yourself with combined with the use of psychedelics is a good place to start :-) and of course then there is Ayahuasca...there are many tools but in the end its all about your will...you need to really want to change your life...own it and then things will start to change ;-)
Best of luck friend
Its best to not only rely on one thing like friends said here below...exercise..healhty diet...who you surround yourself with combined with the use of psychedelics is a good place to start :-) and of course then there is Ayahuasca...there are many tools but in the end its all about your will...you need to really want to change your life...own it and then things will start to change ;-)
Best of luck friend

Might sound silly to some, but do you game at all mate?
Age is irrelevant there’s a game for everyone ❤️
Online one would let you find little community too, and there’s always someone awake around the world to chill with.
Helps keep mind occupied on game, and then social elements too 👍
Age is irrelevant there’s a game for everyone ❤️
Online one would let you find little community too, and there’s always someone awake around the world to chill with.
Helps keep mind occupied on game, and then social elements too 👍

Only game I play is an MMO called World of Tanks. Been playing it off an on for ten years. Sometimes I can get lost in it, but it's become harder recently.

Never really appealed to me, not sure why. Just something about the tanks ticks the right boxes for me. 😊👍

Dude world of warships is so sick! not gonna lie, a friend of mine used to play this game and at a point he wanted to play with me together, I was instantly hooked by the game, it really is fun :)

Hello Khasi,
sorry to hear that you experience your life the way you do. Since we are not knowing each other we dont know in what kind of situation you are in and the way you got to this point of depression. We don’t recommend drug consume when feeling lonely or depressed since it is a devils circle which will make you even more mentally dependent. Life is not shit, life is your responsibility and what you make out of it. Most important thing is to distract yourself the right way, do sports and what you like and what you are passionate about,eat healthy, tomorrow you can always be the better version of the yesterday, every single day. Anyways we wish you just the best in coping with your depression, stay safe and feel hugged, you are not the only one suffering from depression.
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sorry to hear that you experience your life the way you do. Since we are not knowing each other we dont know in what kind of situation you are in and the way you got to this point of depression. We don’t recommend drug consume when feeling lonely or depressed since it is a devils circle which will make you even more mentally dependent. Life is not shit, life is your responsibility and what you make out of it. Most important thing is to distract yourself the right way, do sports and what you like and what you are passionate about,eat healthy, tomorrow you can always be the better version of the yesterday, every single day. Anyways we wish you just the best in coping with your depression, stay safe and feel hugged, you are not the only one suffering from depression.
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its hard to motivate exercise or even a walk when you feel like this but it has a better success ratio than weed when you are really in the hole mate.
jah bless.
jah bless.

Try find hobby, go outside try not to spend lots of time sitting home, riding bike helps me a lot

Fair point. One of the problems with depression is that it kills your motivation. It gets harder to get out and do new things. I walk my dog 4.5 miles a day and that does help. I used to cycle commute every day when I was working! But I'm 67 now and not in the best physical health.

I’m really sorry to hear that you are having a tough time. Depression is tough and especially when you’re having struggles with your health.
Trying to do what you can to be active is helpful, I found doing mindfulness pretty helpful. I was sceptical but found it pretty positive to take some time out and quiet the noise in your mind and also help you be a bit kinder to yourself.
I’m not sure self-medicating is easy to get right.
I find some kinds of weed helpful some have the opposite effect. Cbd can be good for anxiety and there seems to be a good amount of evidence that psilocybin can help with depression, whether that be the larger dose or micro. Whether that’s right for your situation I don’t know.
I hope that you find some way through things and manage to get into a more positive state of mind.
Eye of the tiger and all that jazz.
Trying to do what you can to be active is helpful, I found doing mindfulness pretty helpful. I was sceptical but found it pretty positive to take some time out and quiet the noise in your mind and also help you be a bit kinder to yourself.
I’m not sure self-medicating is easy to get right.
I find some kinds of weed helpful some have the opposite effect. Cbd can be good for anxiety and there seems to be a good amount of evidence that psilocybin can help with depression, whether that be the larger dose or micro. Whether that’s right for your situation I don’t know.
I hope that you find some way through things and manage to get into a more positive state of mind.
Eye of the tiger and all that jazz.

Thanks man for such a thoughtful comment. I agree self-medicating is a very inexact science and so easy to get wrong. That said, my own experience of how inexact medicating by professionals can be makes me think experimenting personally and following your instincts to try new things has the potential to lead you to positive outcomes.

Hi Khasi
I'm sorry to hear what you are going through.
If anything this thread is 40+ posts so you're not alone.
I went through this 6 years ago and it took a while for it to stop.
Now am wary of pharma treatments as I've seen several people get hooked without thier symptoms improving or going away.
What is more there is controversial evidence regarding Prozac possibly increasing suicidal thoughts:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluoxetine
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2000/may/22/drugs.uknews
If you can get hold of the latest New Scientist magazine there is an article about latest findings about depression and possible new treatments, I haven't bought it yet:
https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg25734220-100-fresh-ideas-about-the-causes-of-depression-are-bringing-new-treatments
Now there is plenty of good advice and supprt from nice biggas in this thread but I would offer a word of warning about mushrooms: do not use them on your own.
I do that myself but am a user with 25+ years of experience. They can send you to heaven but also to hell so do not try to self-medicate with psychedelics.
If you want to try them by any means try to join one of the experimental UK studies in a clinical setting with a medical professional.
I hope you do get better
I'm sorry to hear what you are going through.
If anything this thread is 40+ posts so you're not alone.
I went through this 6 years ago and it took a while for it to stop.
Now am wary of pharma treatments as I've seen several people get hooked without thier symptoms improving or going away.
What is more there is controversial evidence regarding Prozac possibly increasing suicidal thoughts:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluoxetine
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2000/may/22/drugs.uknews
If you can get hold of the latest New Scientist magazine there is an article about latest findings about depression and possible new treatments, I haven't bought it yet:
https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg25734220-100-fresh-ideas-about-the-causes-of-depression-are-bringing-new-treatments
Now there is plenty of good advice and supprt from nice biggas in this thread but I would offer a word of warning about mushrooms: do not use them on your own.
I do that myself but am a user with 25+ years of experience. They can send you to heaven but also to hell so do not try to self-medicate with psychedelics.
If you want to try them by any means try to join one of the experimental UK studies in a clinical setting with a medical professional.
I hope you do get better

Your not alone Khasi. I live in a caravan in a field in the middle of nowhere on my own. Not by choice but as a result of really painful split with the mother of my child who I still love and care for to this day. I suffer terribly with loneliness, self doubt and depression. 3 years on my own and I still don't feel independent or strong and at times I've wanted to give up. I get through it because I believe it will change and because I want to see my daughter grow up and be happy.
Drugging yourself does not make you happy. Booze makes you more sensitive and clouds your head, weed can make you overthink everything and while they may numb your pain and help you drop off it will wear off at about 3am and you'll wake up and be restless and feel depressed.
We all make mistakes in life, I know I have, but to forever see yourself in a bad light is harmful to you and others. I'm sure you've done some good things in your life, whether for yourself or helping others. Remember those things and give yourself some credit. Now plan to go and help someone, do a nice thing for somebody. They will see the real you and that is who they will remember. You will hopefully see a change in yourself when you feel appreciated. Happiness comes from what you give not what you get. Good luck my friend, Feel free to message via this post anytime. I'll always listen and help if I can :)
Drugging yourself does not make you happy. Booze makes you more sensitive and clouds your head, weed can make you overthink everything and while they may numb your pain and help you drop off it will wear off at about 3am and you'll wake up and be restless and feel depressed.
We all make mistakes in life, I know I have, but to forever see yourself in a bad light is harmful to you and others. I'm sure you've done some good things in your life, whether for yourself or helping others. Remember those things and give yourself some credit. Now plan to go and help someone, do a nice thing for somebody. They will see the real you and that is who they will remember. You will hopefully see a change in yourself when you feel appreciated. Happiness comes from what you give not what you get. Good luck my friend, Feel free to message via this post anytime. I'll always listen and help if I can :)

Bro/sis ur right life is shit!! But it can be better!!! Sometimes you just need to sit bk and reevaluate your life,goals,aspirations and see how you put the shit in a bag and in the bin.... there's always gonna be that bit shit in ur life its just how you deal with it that matters... my other half has depression and she has just recently started on a vape and it's changed her moods dramatically... I've never been a fan of doctors depression/mood medication as its all just basically shit... everyone's different bro try what natural medicine you can... its on this planet for a reason bro.... Best of luck to you ✌️✌️✌️

Ever thought about selling up and moving somewhere cheaper or just going to do voluntary work in some hot country?

Maybe if I was younger mate but I'm 67. I wouldn't have the energy. Plus I have two kids and my house always remains their home for when they want to visit. And I'm still being treated for cancer so kind of want to stick with what I know if you know what I mean.

Hi Khasi
I didn't know you have cancer.
Hopefully you're one of those people who have a good loving relaitonship with their kids - hopefully.
Going back to the mushrooms if anything you might want to get in touch with the folks at the Imperial College London Psychedelic Research Centre - they are looking for participants for a microdoing clinical trial:
https://www.imperial.ac.uk/psychedelic-research-centre/trials/microdosing-study-20/
There is also one at King's College London:
https://www.kcl.ac.uk/research/psilocybin-in-depression-resistant-to-standard-treatments-psider-study
I'm not trying to tell you what to do but whatever you do do not take mushrooms on your own if you never had any.
I didn't know you have cancer.
Hopefully you're one of those people who have a good loving relaitonship with their kids - hopefully.
Going back to the mushrooms if anything you might want to get in touch with the folks at the Imperial College London Psychedelic Research Centre - they are looking for participants for a microdoing clinical trial:
https://www.imperial.ac.uk/psychedelic-research-centre/trials/microdosing-study-20/
There is also one at King's College London:
https://www.kcl.ac.uk/research/psilocybin-in-depression-resistant-to-standard-treatments-psider-study
I'm not trying to tell you what to do but whatever you do do not take mushrooms on your own if you never had any.

life is some journey. we probably do it to ourselves. choices and decisions old boy, bit of a buzz kill but do this = that. if i drink those beers (i drink) what is the likely result. hugs and uggs x

believe me I know mate. I have 67 years of choices, decisions and actions to mull over and regret. I've fucked my own life up, that's one thing I'm under no illusions about!

Chin up, you sound like a good person, i've respect for my elders, some older folks are nasty and bitter.
I'm never lonely, was bitten by Christianity at a very early age and my faith keeps me going.
I was content and comfortable with the thought of physical death as early as my late teens /very early twenties.
This life is just a ride.💫🙏
I'm never lonely, was bitten by Christianity at a very early age and my faith keeps me going.
I was content and comfortable with the thought of physical death as early as my late teens /very early twenties.
This life is just a ride.💫🙏

67 years young. There is always time to change. Remember to use 'up to now' more because forever is a long time!

Just come back to this thread I started probably three or four years ago. Been interesting reading through some of the great and helpful advice I was given. Don't even know if those people are still active on here but if they are thanks again guys. All these years on I'm still depressed and lonely but reading through your comments really gave me an unexpected lift. Making even online contact with strangers can be really helpful. Bottom line is we're social creatures and we all benefit from connecting somehow.

I've only just found this thread. I'm 25 and feel exactly how you do, I've been out of work for the past year and don't see a life past when my parents are gone, they're my everything.
Reading these posts from so many people do help to know I'm not alone. I'm really trying to get back to work. I want to work in my head and something just stops me. I worked for 6 years before my depression got really bad and I now just don't see a way back. I don't really know what I'm trying to say but thanks for creating this thread because I wouldn't have said this otherwise
Reading these posts from so many people do help to know I'm not alone. I'm really trying to get back to work. I want to work in my head and something just stops me. I worked for 6 years before my depression got really bad and I now just don't see a way back. I don't really know what I'm trying to say but thanks for creating this thread because I wouldn't have said this otherwise

you are not alone but you are brave and caring and that's why you will overcome this challenge

So sorry to hear of your struggles mate. Stay strong. Things might look bleak now but you can overcome them and things can get better. My personal advice is at all costs avoid dwelling on negativity. I know how easy it is to slip into that trap. Find a diversion, any diversion, that will take you away from that mindset. Just remember your life is important and people close to you love you. You mean a lot to them. Sorry, didn't mean to lecture you. I'm no expert, just someone that has hit bottom myself but knows that there is always a way out. I'm happy to talk more if it would help. Take care my friend.

Really appreciate you taking the time to respond, and it's helpful just knowing people care enough to do that. I try to keep as positive as i can. My constant worry is losing my parents and I just dont see my life past them and it scares me what's going to happen when that eventually, god forbid, happens. Take care my friend, I've been reading quite a few of your posts and comments and you seem awesome, feel free to reach out if you need the same.

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Is the Internet Making Freedom Impossible?
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Is the Internet Making Freedom Impossible?
Nearly your entire life is controlled by the tech oligarchs. Everything we read, watch, buy, and eat is provided by them. And that's for those of us that don't also work for them.
They in turn are bullied by massively armed governments willing to steal or harm anyone that doesn't pay protection money.
We are surrounded by exploiters that also happen to own the network. And our best and brightest built it for them.
I'm really looking forward to ai doing the same thing to them.
They in turn are bullied by massively armed governments willing to steal or harm anyone that doesn't pay protection money.
We are surrounded by exploiters that also happen to own the network. And our best and brightest built it for them.
I'm really looking forward to ai doing the same thing to them.

But on the brightside we are connected globally. Humanity is making huge strides with science and medicine. Hope shines brightest in the dark guys!
(Plus we have LB, BTC and access to premium chronic)
(Plus we have LB, BTC and access to premium chronic)

How many of the poor does humanity include ? Doubt they care too much about the cutting edge science

Its only a matter of time before we are all bar-coded, neatly organised and uploaded to the cloud and sooner the better i say.

Ok but there's clouds and there's clouds. I don't mind a harp or 2 but then I got a pipe in some of the good shit from downstairs.

Huh? You wrote this on an anonymous board that uses bitcoin to pay for goods. iv never felt more free than today. Remote working enables me to work from anyway and do almost Anything that isn’t physical labour
All your communication is encrypted so no one can hijack the signal and read your messages. Same with audio and video,
Technology gives us freedom
All your communication is encrypted so no one can hijack the signal and read your messages. Same with audio and video,
Technology gives us freedom

Good piece kumo
If the sheep woke up all the parasite world leaders would be fucked , I’m hoping the internet in the end will help expose the darkness we live under & help the 2million + children who go missing every year to enslavement & blood harvesting .
If the sheep woke up all the parasite world leaders would be fucked , I’m hoping the internet in the end will help expose the darkness we live under & help the 2million + children who go missing every year to enslavement & blood harvesting .

I think it's impossible already , i think free internet was from the 80s towards 2000's post that it changed , we said nothing , we like the conveniences and now we cry all our info is everywhere , what's done is done and now we have to live with the consequences to be honest , unless a new Network internet type comes along that we can access with 0 censorship( we have TOR , but Onion Links not sustainable).
Right now even having a normal social media account is a hinderance , the world is so brainwashed that you cannot have your own opinion, 50 dumbasses will jump on your comments to convince you to think like them.
We need a time travel machine , i miss Yahoo messenger , MIRC , msn ,Yahoo news .
The only good thing is now we are all connected so now it's time for all of us to be informed to be able to filter out the bullshit.
Right now even having a normal social media account is a hinderance , the world is so brainwashed that you cannot have your own opinion, 50 dumbasses will jump on your comments to convince you to think like them.
We need a time travel machine , i miss Yahoo messenger , MIRC , msn ,Yahoo news .
The only good thing is now we are all connected so now it's time for all of us to be informed to be able to filter out the bullshit.

Depends how you define freedom.
We are by nature communal and social creatures.
We are constrained by the freedoms of others.
The illusion of hyper individualism and unrestrained libertarianism tells us that we can have unfettered personal freedom, economic freedom, even moral freedom.
But we can't and never could.
It's setting up a "prisoners dilemma" where the incentive is always to screw the other person over for your own freedoms. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prisoner%27s_dilemma
We are by nature communal and social creatures.
We are constrained by the freedoms of others.
The illusion of hyper individualism and unrestrained libertarianism tells us that we can have unfettered personal freedom, economic freedom, even moral freedom.
But we can't and never could.
It's setting up a "prisoners dilemma" where the incentive is always to screw the other person over for your own freedoms. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prisoner%27s_dilemma

The only true freedom would be when the soul leaves this disposable shield, after all no one is truly free from the duties of this world, where you can of course opt out whenever you like.
The AI would only make their(big tech,gov,etc) job easy to control this world only to be control by AI later down the line like the tech was suppose to do for others.
The AI would only make their(big tech,gov,etc) job easy to control this world only to be control by AI later down the line like the tech was suppose to do for others.

If he did. and I suspect he did and am awaiting confirmation of this, then I am happy for him to have his freedom removed.

Frankly, I consider myself a victim of Tate for having to know who he is and for having listened to him talk.

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Worried purchase not legit
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Worried purchase not legit
Recently bought a shroom chocolate bar. Intended to microdose to help with depression. Came quick and good stealth delivery. Before could try someone else gave a one out of five review and said they tested it and it contained MDMA and other substances. Haven't dared try it now. Don't want to name and shame but wondered if anyone else had bought doctored stuff on here and how common it might be? I've blown my cash now and it's just sitting there looking at me! Thanks

It doesn't make much sense to me to lace a product with mdma, I don't know the street value of shrooms vs mdma but I can't imagine the latter being so considerably cheaper that it is worth tarnishing a product for profit.
I also can't imagine a micro dose of MDMA being that bad for your depression? Maybe don't yam the whole bar but have a nibble and see how you feel. Mandy gave me some of the best times of my life but yeah what goes up must come down.
I imagine staring at it wondering what if will be just as bad as giving it a bite. Sorry if this is the wrong advice, not a medical expert.
I also can't imagine a micro dose of MDMA being that bad for your depression? Maybe don't yam the whole bar but have a nibble and see how you feel. Mandy gave me some of the best times of my life but yeah what goes up must come down.
I imagine staring at it wondering what if will be just as bad as giving it a bite. Sorry if this is the wrong advice, not a medical expert.

Thanks a lot my friend. I understand what you're saying and totally get it. I'll take it easy and see what happens

The photo of that test kit is weird as a Control line plus a Test line should mean it's positive, and a Control line and no Test line should mean negative. No Control line and the test is invalid. So, that suggests that the bar contains loads of drugs.
User error seems more likely than that, surely?
I gave a few of these bars to a mate ages ago and he saw lizard people after eating a bar once. Probably wasn't the best idea for him to keep eating whole bars and hiding in his shed so his family didn't know he was tripping... His only complaint was that they weren't that strong.
User error seems more likely than that, surely?
I gave a few of these bars to a mate ages ago and he saw lizard people after eating a bar once. Probably wasn't the best idea for him to keep eating whole bars and hiding in his shed so his family didn't know he was tripping... His only complaint was that they weren't that strong.

Agreed that it's user error but the photo of the test clearly shows that Test+Control lines means negative, Control line alone is positive and any other variation is void. It just depends how that particular brand of test is calibrated.
As with any line based test ANY visible line is considered valid so technically all of them are negative although THC is probably verging on positive and detecting very faint residuals.
Also, if it was positive for MDMA I'd expect to see much fainter lines on the MET and AMP lines. These will almost always cross-react with MDMA metabolites in these tests as they are chemically very similar.
As with any line based test ANY visible line is considered valid so technically all of them are negative although THC is probably verging on positive and detecting very faint residuals.
Also, if it was positive for MDMA I'd expect to see much fainter lines on the MET and AMP lines. These will almost always cross-react with MDMA metabolites in these tests as they are chemically very similar.

I've never encountered any antibody based test that works this way. They work like pregnancy tests as it's the binding of the metabolite to the antibodies that cause the line to form. How would its presence remove a line that would be present in its absence? Be interesting to read the data sheet for the kit.
*Edit* So apparently the antibody bound gold particles are washed up the strip in the presence of the drug, leaving just the control line as they're both in competition for binding. Interesting. Never encountered this, ever. In that case it's negative for everything as there are lines on all of them, albeit very faint for 3 of them.
*Edit* So apparently the antibody bound gold particles are washed up the strip in the presence of the drug, leaving just the control line as they're both in competition for binding. Interesting. Never encountered this, ever. In that case it's negative for everything as there are lines on all of them, albeit very faint for 3 of them.

That last line made me snort so loud my weed I was about to roll scattered everywhere. Well played sir.

I'm not going to tell you what to do. That is up to you. But a couple of points about that review.
1) It's a urine test. So you have to trust that the person who has just bought a magic mushroom chocolate bar from an online drugs website has definitely not taken any other drugs.
2) I'm pretty sure all of the results are actually negative except for THC.
3) It's an established seller with a pretty decent reputation. I've used them numerous times for weed and they've always been great.
4) They sell mushrooms, of various varieties, and make the bars in house. An MDMA chocolate bar would be a fucking wild thing to do when you have dried mushrooms to sell right there.
5) There are numerous other 10/10 reviews. If these were dosed with MDMA you'd have more than one person saying it. It's not exactly a drug with subtle side effects.
Take all this with however much salt you prefer but if it was me I'd just eat it, especially if you are only microdosing anyway.
1) It's a urine test. So you have to trust that the person who has just bought a magic mushroom chocolate bar from an online drugs website has definitely not taken any other drugs.
2) I'm pretty sure all of the results are actually negative except for THC.
3) It's an established seller with a pretty decent reputation. I've used them numerous times for weed and they've always been great.
4) They sell mushrooms, of various varieties, and make the bars in house. An MDMA chocolate bar would be a fucking wild thing to do when you have dried mushrooms to sell right there.
5) There are numerous other 10/10 reviews. If these were dosed with MDMA you'd have more than one person saying it. It's not exactly a drug with subtle side effects.
Take all this with however much salt you prefer but if it was me I'd just eat it, especially if you are only microdosing anyway.

Thanks mate. I'm just nervous because I haven't done anything stronger than weed for many years and I suffer mental health issues as it is. Don't want to fuck myself up. What you say makes total sense.

Thanks mate that's really helpful. Just that I've been away from this shit for a long while so I'm a bit edgy. What you say is common sense. Thanks again

i used to mop the left overs of vape cart and disposables onto papers to smoke.
not a good idea but i generally was careful with it.
i done this with a dispo the other month and had a fever like no other,
no sweats or temperature, fever was in my head, puking (horrendous) and migraine.
worst was the fever, fever dreams from hell night into day.
i've since quit the mopping.
not a good idea but i generally was careful with it.
i done this with a dispo the other month and had a fever like no other,
no sweats or temperature, fever was in my head, puking (horrendous) and migraine.
worst was the fever, fever dreams from hell night into day.
i've since quit the mopping.

Sorry mate, I'm not that experienced here. I was voicing a genuine concern. If there's something you think I should know I'm happy to learn. All the best

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Being Brilliant Every Day
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Being Brilliant Every Day
Yes it's a lame title but this video does a terrific job of explaining mental awareness and how to apply it.

Great video! We believe that Micro-Dosing helps with this awareness, the thinking, feeling and e-motion is under a spotlight. We have felt that Micro-Dosing gives you the time and mental clarity to become more conscious. And after time you start to become more in tune with that heart-brain coherence even when you are not Micro-Dosing.
@samCHED thanks for sharing ;-)
@samCHED thanks for sharing ;-)

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Threats, blackmail, and insults in private messages, what should I do?
skip the meta drama and just hit the report button. this is exactly what its for.
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Threats, blackmail, and insults in private messages, what should I do?
Hello everyone, I have a very strange buyer who keeps harassing me with nonsensical messages, including cake recipes, even though I never asked for any. I’m just a simple shop that treats buyers like patients. Later, I informed them that their order would be sent on a previously given date, there was no issue, but then they lost it and started threatening to open a dispute for no reason and to leave a bad review for no reason as well. They also insulted my partner at … I don’t know what to do. I have all the evidence in a folder. I contacted Happy Borg but got no response, so I’m posting here. Thanks everyone for your help!

The best piece of advice is- ignore it and don't take the bait. Ghost it completely. There are no shortage of basement warriors and idiots on here.
If you feel it demands action then make your case to CleanUp Borg (but she does like to sit on the fence, as it were).
If you feel it demands action then make your case to CleanUp Borg (but she does like to sit on the fence, as it were).

Thank you for your advice, you’re absolutely right. I was seriously thinking about ignoring it. But when he threatens to open a dispute and leave a bad review, I understand why he’s targeting my shop :'(. I’m not a veteran of LB; I’m just trying my best to offer the best products. Even at this level, I don’t know if this will affect the image of my small shop. I need to give him a pickup code so he can collect his order, but with all these threats, I fear he might abuse the LB system and take advantage to get my products for free. I’ve stopped responding to him; I want to stay as professional as possible. I’ll still report him to CleanUp Borg. It’s worth a try, you never know. Thanks again, Pollypuff23, have a great day! I’ll leave the topic open, just in case other shops want to respond or share their experience, you’re all welcome!

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Best Place to Buy Crypto 2026?
The exodus wallet has good exchange options baked in. Also a safe place to store your coins without surveillance.
All non-kyc options dont have the speed or longevity. I would always recommend doing a ban.k transfer to crypto exchange platform option like bittylicious because when using a credit card it can be marked as fraud on your bank always. We will make a guide soon on how to purchase crypto.

Yeah this would be my recommendation too (from my own experience at least). I've always just done a b.transfer to Bittylicious or Coinbase - then sent to an Exodus wallet and from there to LB. I know it's double the fees but they seem to be low at the moment, and it's good to have an additional layer in between. Never had any issues or blocks (my friend used his cards for Bitcoin purchases, and I think his banks ended up blocking him from making them). I've heard of people getting banned on Coinbase for sending direct to LB multiple times but not on Bittylicious or Bitpanda.

The exodus wallet has good exchange options baked in. Also a safe place to store your coins without surveillance.

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Payment saying unpaid
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Hi I have been using vendors hear for a little bit now and I have just paid for an order to exact amount and showing as unpaid i have proof of purchase and axact amount what do I do ?? This is the fist time I gave had this problem

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How do banks "create" money?
"since banks work as the accountants of record – while the rest of the economy assumes they are honest accountants – it is possible for the banks…
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How do banks "create" money?
I know they make lots of it with fees, I can see this shit in my own account but someone tried to explain to me that individual banks can create money out of this air and I didn't understand.

When banks create a new loan they must also create an equal and opposite liability, in the form of a new demand deposit. Meaning when banks loan they create money out of thin air. They simply make it exist.
There is a really good series on YouTube that goes in to great depth about how it all works.
https://www.youtube.com/user/whygoldandsilver
There is a really good series on YouTube that goes in to great depth about how it all works.
https://www.youtube.com/user/whygoldandsilver

I binged watched the series in one night. No regrets haha. Really gets the brain matter flowing. That link is to his main channel, it seems he has a lot of new content. Even some videos on crypto.
This is the link to his main series I was talking about, that goes in to great depth on banking, the federal reserve, fiat currency and economics as a whole. Enjoy!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyV0OfU3-FU&list=PLE88E9ICdipidHkTehs1VbFzgwrq1jkUJ
This is the link to his main series I was talking about, that goes in to great depth on banking, the federal reserve, fiat currency and economics as a whole. Enjoy!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyV0OfU3-FU&list=PLE88E9ICdipidHkTehs1VbFzgwrq1jkUJ

I do indeed. Interesting solutions. Mike's series (if I remember correctly, it's been a few years) doesn't really go in to any solutions to the many economical issues we have, if at all. So this was a nice listen. Ty!

Quantitative Easing.
The ECB have been doing it for years, with no federal reserve at all.
All countries do it to a greater or lesser extent.
The reason the (US) dollar is so popular is they have a federal reserve (gold).
The reason the Euro is failing is it's based upon the German banks and their megalomaniacal desire to control Europe.
There is no EU federal reserve. Only German banks.
When the EU (and Euro) collapses, Germany will be fine, the other 26 member states will fail.
Invest as you will.
Cheers. BB
The ECB have been doing it for years, with no federal reserve at all.
All countries do it to a greater or lesser extent.
The reason the (US) dollar is so popular is they have a federal reserve (gold).
The reason the Euro is failing is it's based upon the German banks and their megalomaniacal desire to control Europe.
There is no EU federal reserve. Only German banks.
When the EU (and Euro) collapses, Germany will be fine, the other 26 member states will fail.
Invest as you will.
Cheers. BB

Petrodollar is interesting on another topic. What do you think ? It’s funny what is out there that the vast majority of people do not know about in the financial and political landscape. The petrodollar is perplexing to me

Money is just an I Owe U ... it says so on your GBP £ notes ! something like ... ''I promise to pay the bearer the sum of twenty pounds'' .... hmmm? but you are handing over a physical £20 note made out of paper or plastic. BUT it still is an I OWE YOU, because the actual note is a ''promise TO pay'' .. the note is not backed up by gold anymore...back in the day... money was real... now it is just digital numbers on screens, according to my limited knowledge about it. I will keep up with this thread tho, as I would like to hear what others on LB think :)

Banks also "Trade Client" funds in a range of assets from , bonds, to stocks hence why you will receive interest each month or annually on your account; that is miniscule compared to what they generate from trading your funds (which is also why your funds are insured). but there are many aspects to this and variables as i've read below each of which is pretty much true.

"since banks work as the accountants of record – while the rest of the economy assumes they are honest accountants – it is possible for the banks to increase the money in the accounts of some of us (those who receive a loan), by simply altering the figures. Nobody else will notice, because agents cannot distinguish between money that had actually been saved and deposited and money that has been created ‘out of nothing’ by the bank” - Richard Werner

Yes if they say its "in the bank" that's all it takes to do what they want with it - regardless of whether it exists.

Banks literally print money and we are expected to accept it has value when in actual fact there is nothing backing fiat currencies anymore. Used to be that dollar was backed by gold reserves then oil but now its backed by the promise... Basically the whole world is in a debt/credit spiral that will unravial at some point...

The dollar will collapse, thank me later
CBDC coming soon.. to a place near you!
(Not Financial Advice) 🥸
CBDC coming soon.. to a place near you!
(Not Financial Advice) 🥸

All began with financial deregulation in the 1970’s . The banks just click some buttons and magic. Then you pay them back, what a business!!!
This is a major cause of inflation. They are putting money that hasn’t been earned yet from the future in todays circulation . That’s why our money 💰 s worth fuck all now. Well one of the many reasons;)
This is a major cause of inflation. They are putting money that hasn’t been earned yet from the future in todays circulation . That’s why our money 💰 s worth fuck all now. Well one of the many reasons;)

not individual banks! but they do make money lol dont make much sense does it
little ben
little ben

yes, individual banks, check out the werner stuff in this thread. basically it's just accounting that makes them book things twice. if it's on a bank's books it is money.

They don't, they make up fiat currency (£, $, € ect ect) just a bar code number to give it a vaule. Money is only something that can be equally treaded fairly ie gold.

Take a look at how the Americans fund things like war etc and how they use the federal reserve and petro dollar, very very interesting

It's depending on the existing customers within the bank actually , so you deposit money into the so called bank but in fact the bank lends it to other people within the banking system and charges interest on that.
Banks are the only ones legally able to create wealth out of thin air , digits on the computer.
For example when you get a loan - digits , but you have return back with interest to the bank Real money from your job , revenue streams.
Circular Banking.
Banks are the only ones legally able to create wealth out of thin air , digits on the computer.
For example when you get a loan - digits , but you have return back with interest to the bank Real money from your job , revenue streams.
Circular Banking.

Yes Werner's study explains the double ledger. The implications being that when you deposit your own fiat, what is really happening is that the banks are purchasing security futures from you with promises to pay. The b of e charter actually explains that they cannot and do not lend money or take deposits.
White rabbit trust on YouTube and youandyourcash.com seek and example plenty of successful remedy.
White rabbit trust on YouTube and youandyourcash.com seek and example plenty of successful remedy.

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A legal market in human organs
i think the price just went up
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Borg!
https://littlebiggy.net/link/x6GD4O
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POSTS TELLING THE TRUTH ARE CLEARLY SEEN AS BAD FOR BUSINESS AND REMOVED.THIS IS ON A SITE THAT CLAIMS FEEDBACK AND HONE…
bigga when you go off like this you make dopey look sane. i grant you this is a great plot twist but it undermines the point you want to bring to all …
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bigga when you go off like this you make dopey look sane. i grant you this is a great plot twist but it undermines the point you want to bring to all of us.
review, dispute, test, that makes things work without trusting someone thats been driven to anger. a post or two for sure but flooding is a tool of evil
review, dispute, test, that makes things work without trusting someone thats been driven to anger. a post or two for sure but flooding is a tool of evil

Yeah tried that mate.
Enough is enough though. 3 strikes and you're out!
This guy is a sneaky cheat and he'd take your money tomorrow.
I would never do that...even to you misguided fools
This site and the knobheads on it have become a bit of a joke..
Flooding it with the trurh is necessarily.
You to need to realise I just stopped a lot of people smoking toxic hash
I had no beef with anyone else they chose to defend fake hash being sold, even laughed about it and got insulting.
Fuck that and fuck them!
Mission accomplished 😉
You won't be smoking Dopeys fake hash...not because of the gobby idiots but because of a friendly Lion......
See ya
Enough is enough though. 3 strikes and you're out!
This guy is a sneaky cheat and he'd take your money tomorrow.
I would never do that...even to you misguided fools
This site and the knobheads on it have become a bit of a joke..
Flooding it with the trurh is necessarily.
You to need to realise I just stopped a lot of people smoking toxic hash
I had no beef with anyone else they chose to defend fake hash being sold, even laughed about it and got insulting.
Fuck that and fuck them!
Mission accomplished 😉
You won't be smoking Dopeys fake hash...not because of the gobby idiots but because of a friendly Lion......
See ya

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Fraudulent listing??? Poundland
welcome to lb, you are the vetting system (even more so once you have an order)
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Fraudulent listing??? Poundland
So I've unfortunately been completely ripped off by a seller on here they had a listing claiming to be made up of various quality Cali consisting of Mids, tops shelf and premium exotics I purchased a 3.5g "premium exotic" for $65 and what I received was shockingly poor quality bud that I can easily get the same or better for £25 a 3.5 in London I messaged the seller who made a u turn on their pre exotic label and downgraded the strain to "top shelf" on their page I'm really not happy about this as I thought this was a community of cannabis connoisseurs who were honest and fair and I'm learning quick that with some sellers this simply isn't the case I requested a full refund they offered me $10 off my next purchase which lets be honest I'll never buy from them again just wondering can I dispute this please here a pic of the so called premium exotic

This is a bit rich coming from a vendor with Mousse listed for $90 for 3.5G which is more than double that any Mousse sells for, and some very average looking mids for $100 a Q
and you are 1000% not getting better than that bud in the picture for £25 an 8th on the streets or you would have never have bought from here in the first place, the bud in the picture looks lovely, everything about this situation is very very strange
and you are 1000% not getting better than that bud in the picture for £25 an 8th on the streets or you would have never have bought from here in the first place, the bud in the picture looks lovely, everything about this situation is very very strange

I get the same quality bud for £480 a quarter Lbs I have zero reason to lie. I all about making new connections and trying new vendors and zaks Pie is one of my favourite strains unfortunately this wasn't hitting. Also the hash is imported from California hence the high price if you look at the green team their zoap is more expensive and both products are exactly the same price on a slab from my supplier so.....

None of this looks good on you, Poundland is a long term vendor with a solid rep who has handled this professionally where as you are doing the total opposite, and you're acting this way as a new vendor yourself??? do you not realise how terrible this looks on you? Poundland isn't claiming the weed to be genuine JB
and why on earth do you think you would be able to "return" weed to a vendor.......
LB NEEDS a vetting system for new vendors desperately, so many vendors on here with frontmen that are more naive and less professional than I was when I was 12
and why on earth do you think you would be able to "return" weed to a vendor.......
LB NEEDS a vetting system for new vendors desperately, so many vendors on here with frontmen that are more naive and less professional than I was when I was 12

Yeah, who's it being returned to? The burner address on the shipping label...? Doesn't make any sense for someone who knows how this all works.

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if we are living in a simulation of a simulation
ill only upvote once but this does bear repeating :)
if we are living in a simulation of a simulation
then whats the game strategy here?

If by game strategy you mean the meaning of life. Then the meaning is to find your meaning by exploration of yourself and the matter around you.

Complete the escape out of this sim code ritual that ancients used to do so the soul would not return back to this sim but yet a better one.

To gain knowledge or maybe its just a game you gotta figure out how to play to get to the next level?
A simulation of a simulation suggests to me that maybe something went wrong in the past or maybe its just a soul trap. Too many avenues of thought lol
A simulation of a simulation suggests to me that maybe something went wrong in the past or maybe its just a soul trap. Too many avenues of thought lol

To go to the next level. Run from the light or forever be regurgitated back here. Let God 'the creator' into your life. Until you do you'll forever be wondering 'the meaning of life'

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Greatest Comedy Sketches Of All Time
hartman was a genius
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Greatest Comedy Sketches Of All Time
Let's create a compilation.hoping to see some that may have flown under my radar..anyways....for your consideration...Peter Cook and Dudley Moore 'The Frog & Peach'

Great post, I got lost down a wormhole of genius sketches last night trying to pick my favourite and i couldnt so i figured id come back today and keep it easy.
Pete and Dud though 💜💚
Pete and Dud though 💜💚

Not quite a sketch I guess but immediately thouguht of this ^ love this series of interviews. Two geniuses.

Absolutely loved this. Completely unscripted...Two absolute satirical heavyweights and two of the finest comic minds to have ever lived....only wish Peter Cook was around longer to develop a long and fruitful working relationship with Chris Morris

For sure, and if only! But at least we have these utter gems, I'm thankful for that :)

Chris's Morris's own darkly disturbing piece of comedy genius 'Jam" produced its share of memorable moments....this absolutely being one...

Brilliant. I straightaway thought of Jam too - so many good scenes there - and his radio series Blue Jam before that. The monologue above is quite a trip. So good stoned as well :D

Most of the clips i struggled to choose between when this was first posted had Chris Morris involved in some way, obviously Jam, Brass Eye and The Day today are all genius but hes had a hand in so many other great comedy moments, like as the narrator here...

Fantastic - just my sort of comedy! I missed this first time round. Big fan of Spaced, League, Big Train, etc. AND ambient music. Gonna listen to this series on headphones and there is a "remix" version (whaaa...?) of Jam called Jaaaam that looks good, too.
Found this compilation of the "Doctor" scenes. Not everyone's cup of tea but that's why I like it. byyyyyyyyyyyyeeeeeeeeeeee
Found this compilation of the "Doctor" scenes. Not everyone's cup of tea but that's why I like it. byyyyyyyyyyyyeeeeeeeeeeee

There was a Chris Morris short which was pretty much a precursor to Jam .
My Wrongs 8245-8259 and 117 ...well worth a look
My Wrongs 8245-8259 and 117 ...well worth a look

Beat me to it! Mind you I have just got off from a 28 hour shift that started tomorrow and hasn't even begun yet, working myself to the bone... all before 7am.

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Did comedy get this bad under fascism?
The Japanese kept it cute and animated
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Did comedy get this bad under fascism?
So much of modern comedy seems like a sermon. Was The Goebels Hour like this?

Tran and Helle were pretty much the same thing. Here the unwoke is shamed for using all their food rations.

i dont think fascism stops comedy but it does certainly tilt to be far more divisive. But that is what comedy for, to laugh at the things out of our control. But the same would be true under a fully leftist system with little bitches cancelling everything that hurts their feelings. Comedy is entirely subjective

Adam Ray, Kam Patterson and Shane Gillis
https://youtube.com/shorts/Hf1pwzyKXmU?si=D2Z9cZeI0tkAq_gT
https://youtube.com/shorts/Hf1pwzyKXmU?si=D2Z9cZeI0tkAq_gT

The guy that plays Roy Kent in Ted Lasso did one not long ago "second best night of your life" which is on sky now. Its pretty good, he spends the whole show trying to make americans love the C word haha

Adam rowe, vittorio angelone, mike rice, dan nightingale, fin Taylor, Paul Smith and an honourable mention for eshaan akbar and jamali maddix! Loads of great comics on the UK scene atm. Just need to look 💚✌🏻🔥

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putin assassination strategies
crowd source this and you can make it a billion
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That ain't filler. The man appears to be on a fairly big dose of steroids. I'd imagine he's quite unwell and probably not long for this world.

I fear ill health is wishful thinking. Looks like he's spent a bundle on plastic surgery to me. That said, it's probably better for a lot of people if he's not at death's door.

If he hasn’t got long, this makes him very dangerous. Coupled with the fact a lot of the drugs elderly take effect the mind without them knowing.

If only we could “fast forward to the bit where he shoots himself in the bunker”…..followed by eternal damnation in the flames of Hell fire with a red hot pitchfork up his bum hole.
Seems fair 👍
Seems fair 👍

Biden laughing all the way to the bank. While UK, Europe suffers...
Ukraine is too kind to fight Russia for the USA/West.
USA don't want Nord stream 1 or 2 to exist! And voile it's happening now!
Ukraine is too kind to fight Russia for the USA/West.
USA don't want Nord stream 1 or 2 to exist! And voile it's happening now!

America want this war. Remember it was Biden and Bojo that pulled Zelensky away from peace talks back in 2022

The people are waking up, this is a sick thread, nato wants war not putin.
they forced putins hand to invade ukraine.
9/11 was an inside job and the vaccine wasnt a vaccine.
i could go on but whatever, chemtrails suck too.
they forced putins hand to invade ukraine.
9/11 was an inside job and the vaccine wasnt a vaccine.
i could go on but whatever, chemtrails suck too.

I find it fascinating that governments happily admit to chemtrails be used aswell as geoengineering yet it's still called a conspiracy. The war in Ukraine can go back to 2008 when they first stated their intention to join Nato. Putin reiterated then how that would unfold so we pushed the button again in 2014. Remember what's good for goose is good for the gander. If the US didn't like missiles in Cuba, why would we expect Russia wouldn't feel hard done by expanding east constantly

What security guarantees did Russia offer Ukraine though? You must know that Ukraine was rightfully concerned in 2008, Russia had occupied Abkhazia and South Ossetia in Georgia, who was to be next?
Ultimately, nobody but the arms manufacturers want war, but Ukraine cant surrender without losing their identity and half their lands. Their future is fucked. Not that anyone that supports Russia even gives a flying fuck about that.
Ultimately, nobody but the arms manufacturers want war, but Ukraine cant surrender without losing their identity and half their lands. Their future is fucked. Not that anyone that supports Russia even gives a flying fuck about that.

It's going to be a mess and your entirely right in what you say about arms dealers being the only profiteers of war.
I only see it ending with either Ukraine giving up the 4 Oblasts and agreeing to never join Nato or.. Russia surrender due to it escalating and somehow we avoid nuclear catastrophe. Both choices are so wide apart im not sure what could make up the middle ground.
I only see it ending with either Ukraine giving up the 4 Oblasts and agreeing to never join Nato or.. Russia surrender due to it escalating and somehow we avoid nuclear catastrophe. Both choices are so wide apart im not sure what could make up the middle ground.

If Ukraine was to surrender their lands, then I'd say only if they were entered into NATO, which enables their future security, and the lands would need to be demilitarised.

Who owns these arms companies pretty sure in most cases there run by the governments a war in Europe will be massively profitable for the USA as now instead of donating weapons there gona start selling them to Europe

The Minsk agreements seemed fair to me . Crimea has always been Russian and the Donbas wanted independence but would rather ally with Russia than the West . A lot of Ukrainians already considered themselves Russian , so they wouldn't lose their culture .
