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Tonic
by  Tonic
Dry Herb Vape Advice
After years of joints (20+) am trying to move to vaping for health benefits (and to stop me straying back onto the fags)

I bought the xmax starry and it does the job but the taste is rubbish and its not satisfying like a joint with tobbaco. Plus at higher temps i ended up coughing.
The taste is always the same no matter what product and temp i use - to me it doesnt even taste like weed and solid was just a waste.

From what ive been reading its probably worth me upgrading. I was thinking portable and crafty/mighty as ive heard they are closest to a joint experience.
Either that or go desktop like the plenty or sticky bricks but then id need to keep using starry when out and about.

As an ex smoker i guess im always going to crave tobacco but do you think the upgrade is worth it?

Thanks
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DrBurke
The dynavap is great. As you use a lighter to heat it up it still feels a bit like smoking. I’ve stopped tobacco and use dynavap for weed and a pipe for hash. It works for me and I’d smoked tobacco for 30 years on and off and I’ve not had any since July and am not missing it.
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Tonic
Thanks for this. Now im seriously considering the dynavap instead - sounds like the most joint like and perfect for camping etc as its flame powered and robust.
Is hash no good in it?
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DrBurke
I’ve been researching hash in it but everyone seems to add roisins and wax in using the dyna coil which captures the melting liquid. Some people add hash in and use hemp fibre. As I’m not 100% on what works best I just pipe hash! Dynavap has a bit of a learning curve but there are loads of YouTube videos showing how to get the most out of it.
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DeadRabb1t
https://littlebiggy.org/viewSubject/v/4791683

There's a pinned thing ony page about how I set my dynavaps up for hash, my dynacoil is concentrate only and I don't bother with cotton or hemp fibre
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GildoGoldie
I was exactly the same! I bought The Mighty a couple of weeks ago and have not smoked a baccy joint since. I'm still getting used to it but it's doing the job. Lots of advice out there for using the Mighty like doing a burn off before you first use and using the dosing capsule. I would recommend it even with its hefty price tag. Unfortunately I'm still craving rolling a baccy joint and probably always will lol!
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Bigbum
You won’t forever, trust
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jolo201201
Mighty owner here. Honestly it’s one of my best purchases. I still smoke spliffs as I love them but when I am travelling for work or out and about it’s unreal. Quite stealthy and packs a punch.
Only thing I would say is it’s only as good as the material you put into it.
10/10 would buy again if I had to
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DeadRabb1t
Tinymight, just need a supply of 18650's when you go out camping 👍

Dynavaps also good call and does hash fine, see my page for how I use it for that ☺️

Personally if you have the budget for a storz and bickel whatever I would suggest the tinymight as a alternative 👍 don't get an arizer portable vape as they won't extract quick enough
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rtbobbyt
Absolutely correct about the battery life of the tinymight. I guess that’s the payoff of the big hits
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Smiffoo
My main is Mighty plus I use dosing capsules with ground herb and my Xmax Pro V3 that I use as a backup for whatever reason lol. I'm an ex smoker about 15 a day and joints 20 or so a day. Now just vape weed.
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MycoMattic
Another Dynavap fan, small bong, tip and coil kit for wax / shatter. Edibles add couch lock if required.

I smoked for decades but quit maybe 5 years ago and don't miss tobacco at all.
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oblong89
You can negate much of the vape coughing if you filter it through a water bong. If you buy an adapter that matches the size of your bong stem- (one with an upright stem is better so it slots in and you don’t have to hold it in place) to fit the mighy- you shouldn’t cough- can take bigger hits, and it will definitely get you high
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cheeching
Big waste of money, don’t bother with dry herb vapes. You won’t get as high, will cough like a mofo because of the excruciating tickle throat effect of vaping dry herb, and will be back on the joints feeling like a mug for wasting money after trying to convince yourself dry herb vaping is alright and worth all the cash you have thrown at it. Can’t speak for the carts….perhaps they are better, but some seem to think they may be just as carcinogenic…..
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DeadRabb1t
*PSA* to all biggas who smoke weed and want to try vaping,. especially those who smoke a lot or pure joints etc

Don't buy arizer portable products

Its like taking a pint you normally drink in 10 minutes splitting it into 3rds, then putting one third in a sippy cup and drinking it over 30 minutes, then wondering why your not drunk 🤷🏻
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Hoopingmad
I made this expensive mistake! Bought the Arizer solo 2 and it’s garbage.
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DeadRabb1t
I'm sorry 😔 it seems to be a really common thing on little biggy that and the rabid fanclub of storz and bickel fans who swear are being effected by the aluminium in the airpath and getting early onset Alzheimer's (this is a joke as aluminium doesn't cause Alzheimer's unless you inject massive amount of it into rabbits in which case it does 🤷🏻) I digress, when the rabb1t™ faceSlapper extraction roaster releases I shall send ya a test unit 😉
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oblong89
I’m required to perform lung function tests every three months- as well as have cardio and pulmonary based mri, blood tests, 6 min walking tests, and a whole bunch of other things.

My rabid affection for the Mighty (and Volcano) comes from the fact that over the last three and a half years, my stats, including lung function have dramatically improved.

It seems quite a special thing moving from an incredibly short life expectancy to becoming a long distance swimmer, and having a method of cannabis intake to thank for that.

Advocates of S and B can come across a little culty, i’m happy to admit that.

The results do speak for themselves though! I’m not sure why in my situation it would be worth trying anything else when the Mighty and Volcano have literally saved my life- hence the OTT praise for them. :-)
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DeadRabb1t
Could it be possible that any vape device you liked would have had similar results?

I'm a great believer of "if it aint broke don't fix it" if your happy and it suits your needs great but be aware that it doesn't suit everyone

It's the s&b fans who are convinced that they are the be all and end all of the vaping world and everything else is rubbish that get on my tits 😜
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oblong89
I have used a few different top end vapourisers just purely out of curiosity and the S and B have been the best devices all round.

Moreover, I did briefly receive a cannabis prescription at the start of last year to document the experience, and provide a justification for possession should i get a knock on the door.

Having dealt with a handful of weed clinics in the uk i can confirm that every single one of them advised that medical cannabis was for vapourisarion only to maintain legal status, but that S and B were deemed the medical industry standard, having been tested for safety.

That’s not to suggest that other vapourisers are unsafe- but it seems sensible to stick with something that works and recommended by medical professionals.
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DeadRabb1t
🤷🏻 here we go again ...

https://www.vapormed.com/en/

Did you buy one of their 3 specifically medical devices or did you buy an off the shelf product made by them?

As for the medical professionals I too have been down the medical cannabis perscription route and am fully aware of the lack of knowledge in the industry around the products and vapourisers in general.
They recommend it cause they are the only company that's bothered to pay the money to get stuff classed.

They are a great vapouriser if it suits your needs and the only thing I'm trying to suggest is there are other devices on the market that might suit others.

It's a bit niche and definitely doesn't suit everyone but you can run a 7th floor elev8r in a way so it's a full glass airpath with nothing in it, the heat is produced by the quartz and with the original bowl you don't need screens. Useful for people who are sensitive to the various metals and plastics used in other vapes.

Happy Saturday 🥳
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oblong89
i did neither- i made the purchases beforehand before doing a bit of research and trying a few other products and it was fortunate that they happened to be the products that were universally recommended.

Once again, i’m not stating that other vapes are ineffective or unsafe- but they do happen to be the ones recommended by medical professionals, have the best reviews, and in my experience have been the easiest to use, maintain, and provide the best highs.

i’m really interested in the link you put up rabbit, but for some reason i can’t copy it all- not sure if it’s a framing thing with my phone- would you mind terribly reposting or messaging me with it?!

Thanks! I’m always keen to see what’s out there despite my general ‘not broke don’t fix’ vibe.
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Hoopingmad
Should have consulted you first before dipping my feet in the herbal vape pool!
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DeadRabb1t
🤷🏻 what can I say 😂 but "yes" you definitely should have 🤣😍

Vapes are surprisingly subjective I find

Anyhow on that news I'm off lock up the hutch ☁️🐰☁️
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dwarfedgiant
HA Love this analogy.
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Anon1385
I've just purchase a crafty+ (V2) , I'm not a fan of the huge unit that comes with the Mighty. Can't wait to try it, it gets raving reviews online
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rtbobbyt
I tried a few before settling on the Tinymight.
Good performance, big rips, only smoke joints when with friends now
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Tonic
Thanks All for the advice and quick response.

It sounds like the upgrade is worth it but im going to be craving joints forever anyway. ?

Still thinking of going for crafty over mighty - i do a lot of outdoor stuff and figure i can charge with my portable usb battery pack whereas the mighty (i think) needs mains power.
Plus i can get crafty 70 quid cheaper. On the other hand, if its not as good i would be better going all in and getting the mighty.

Decisions, decisions
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Mokum
You will time need adjusting to vape. It will be less (throat) hitting, but I am surprised you don't get good taste. I think you get better taste with vaping. Keep it to a lower temp though. The higher the temp, the lesser the taste. Also make sure there is no ABV left in your device. My experience is if you have only a little bit of old vaped bud, can make the taste very different and unpleasant. I agree with other biggaz you might like the Dynavape the best if you are a ex smoker.
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DeadRabb1t
If you have sufficient calories in the extraction device a high temp extraction can contain more flavour as it gets the whole terpenes range in one pull, it only tastes naff of it takes a while to get the heat through the flower meaning the first few pulls are just getting the herb warm,.I find things with lots of hot balls work well 😉
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HelpTheAged
I have a mighty and a crafty. Both are good but if getting just one definitely get the mighty. The battery lasts a lot longer and the cooling chamber is bigger. The crafty, for me at least, is a luxury item that enables one to craftily vape where one ought not to be doing that, like outside the office for example. The mighty is your loyal and dependable workhorse.
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Bigbum
The mighty is so far away from the joint experience which is positive in every way
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