yes they are serious as hell, have you ever seen a seal fumble the beach ball trick? it's insane they're bitchy for like a week.

he said "a little" crazy.

not a bad series

I’m glad someone brought this up! Really good series. Loved the sims blue episode. Deep as fuck!

Just got a vote up and noticed the typo- Zima blue is the episode I believe

one of the best for sure

all really well done and the perfect length

cryptography has evolved around those who most wish to keep secrets. the military has always had the motive and resources to dominate the field.

Same thing that makes anything a weapon-man(the killer ape)

Boys got a weapon in each hand here. Cryptography is in the right hand.

My opinion on matters like this are not worth 5p, but the timing of covid being in similar time frame to the UK leaving the EU does seem convenient. Seems like the East trying to destabilize the west. Im sure it would be in Chinas interest for the whole EU to collapse. Also UK and London being the financial capital and the UK suffering worse economical damage than any other EU country shortly after agreeing to leave the EU just seems incredible timing. Couldve randomly occured 6.4 years ago, but randomly occured shortly after the beginning of the EU starting to dissolve. And again nobody is disputing this virus came from china and its timing is so outrageously perfect as to is its target. Dont know anything, just smells a bit fishy.

Whatever its origins it has become bio warfare as politicians use it for their own ends.

Never let a good crisis go to waste! ;)

Psy op.

Where've you been smokes!? Hey! :)

All is well. I've Busy with work n' all. Hope you're okay :)

Glad to hear you are good :) Yep, all good here dude! Nice to see you back :)

New world order.

Goal - population under 500,00,000

Time frame - 100 yrs

How to achieve?
Release a virus that scares the world into hiding.

Wait until it spreads globally, killing the elderly and sick in wave one.

Produce a vaccine within a year, that offers people hope of a return to normality, without fear!

Vaccine designed to sterilize 80% of population.

In the mean time, allow virus to reach up to 8 waves before population has been completely vaccinated.

I mean....if i was to theorize.... ;)

I certainly wont have any vaccination for sure. I wager though the governments will make it passive aggressive mandatory. What i mean by that is they probably wont make the jab law, but ibet eventually those that decline the jab will be forbidden from foreign travel or something similar. I guess covid is their way of stopping global warming.

I got the vaccine because it’s specifically for COVID-19, I don’t get the flu jab because that really is some one picking 5 strains at random for the pharms Xmas bonus

depends... if djt is re-elected then yes. if Biden/democratx then no. democrats love chinas money. sell-out central.

china has been open about wanting to be the supreme world superpower. they pay-off everyone, in every facet.

national self-sufficiency is the base line. trade is the gravy. those are the foundations of stability. it's common sense.

bio-warfare is available as we've experienced. c19 is lab-derived corona rna with hiv sequences inserted and affinity enabled. if this was originally an accident then it was certainly weaponised. the good and the bad of biowar is that it is essentially nuclear-level as at today.

It would make sense for the Americans to start it off in china and overplay the number of deaths added to the fear and isolation and every person in the west is ready to boycott china or even war. Makes you think when all the countries suffering most deaths are usa, uk, italy, spain and france. They have never fought together before ?.. someone dies of a heart attack in the uk, do you think they will waste their very rare tests. Just write it as corona, Helps in multiple ways. Politicians are nuts. You never know! All I know is I only barely scraped through secondary school and I was saying shut down all flights from china to any country weeks before they even started reporting about what was happening in China on tv. It was all over twitter for months before. Just like trump said china cant hit the hong kong protesters and it was all over our tvs but macrons goons were beating the feck out of decent french people and our tvs showed nothing. Thank fuck we have weed in this crazy world

AMEN!

This explains a lot!
https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/31/covid-19-overcoming-testing-challenges/?fbclid=IwAR1ikMtfYusDqZ0Gmideh1d4C5fTMbSjvMuKlS1MpN0yf6ZGJq6ogaPXhUE

I commented before, but this time i'll just add some links.

They've been doing hella lot of research on corona viruses and enhancing potency of the viruses. Their research was US funded.
All the information is there is you look.
They've been isolating bat corona and seeing the infectiousness since 2000!
They also mention that the ageing population would be most affected.
And all of these studies are from 5 years ago.

It is a financial plan and a way to change civil liberty.
Period.

https://www.nature.com/news/engineered-bat-virus-stirs-debate-over-risky-research-1.18787

I’m sure it’s just a coincidence...

This spring would have had more protests than the 1960s. The Chinese government had a lot to lose with Hong Kong protests starting to spread to Guangdong province.

Is there anything they could keep them home as effectively as this?

Please stay safe people. This is really scary!! Would recommend flattenthecurve.com for some
Good advice.

Undoubtedly the powers that be have concocted this virus to thin the herd of the weak and terrify the populace into obedience.

ridiculous, if the us engineered something like this wouldn't they first go after their #1 enemy, the iranian governement?

wait a sec...

i think youre having fun with this but if not how would such a secret ever be kept? it goes strongly against the most instinctive of human instincts to do this and keep quite about it.

The ways we receive our information are controlled.
A handful of major companies own the media.
Information is compartmentalised.
Silence is gained through money, threats/blackmail or killing/suiciding.
Check out the ‘Clinton body count’ and see how many of his close personal friends and bodyguards have died in light aircraft accidents or committed suicide. It’s not hidden, but a well constructed narrative that makes this sound silly protects it very well. An open mind is all that one needs. Much love.

if it were true this story could never break with corporate media. they all run their government's take on anything remotely like this.

Spooks have protocols for this shit it usually means killing the researchers or holding something over them.

You lot having been hitting the ganja too hard! It’s simple biology that caused this outbreak. When living things breed their dna is copied but this isn’t a perfect process and sometimes errors in this process causes mutations. Where viral generations can be a matter of minutes rather than years microbial life is much more susceptible to mutations such as becoming more virulent and resistant to existing medicine. Or as is suspected in this outbreak a type of virus may live happily in a certain species of animal without causing harm but a mutation allows it to cross the species barrier and infect humans, but where humans aren’t it’s usual host it can cause harm. Unfortunately this is more common in areas where bush meat is traded because your going to get a range of different animal diseases that may cross the species barrier and there’s no biohazard control like you would get in an abattoir. Seriously, linking Coronavirus with 5g and the royals!? Why not throw in reptilians for good measure? Posts like this make me weep for humanity.

well said! :)

Yes @Leanbean!

i think you need to wear a tin foil hat bro!

I personally feel mass 5g installations are causing a lot of side effects . Pneumonia is even a side effect of emf frequencies so really does make you wonder.

finally some sense in a world of conspiracy . next it will be alexa has spread it

yes, this is how she gets us all to herself

Coronavirus doesn’t have DNA, it’s not even really alive. It’s just a code of RNA

Like a computer virus it can only “live” and replicate inside a host

it has a form a structure , a dna

It’s an RNA virus, which is a precursor to DNA. That’s all I know and I’m by far an expert

@leanbean well said

There is logic out there Spock!

this describes everyone here (without regard to planetary origin) the trick dear biggaz is to see all sides and remain open until a conclusion is actually required.

god dammit jim !

Hero!

Is it a coincidence that the only level 4 biological research in China is in Wuhan, was studying Coronaviruses and the Harvard professor paid by the Chinese govt to set the lab up has been arrested by the USA recently?

Just like Jimmy Savile, procurer of children for the elite was best friends with Prince Charles and Jeffery Epstein, procurer of children for the elite was best friends with Prince Andrew. All a coincidence, nothing to see.
No reptiles required.

Even the big orange doughnut knows...

lol @ ''No reptiles required.'' ...

meh

i checked your lab comment and it is verifiable. way way too strange that the only lab in china is in wuhan.

"The facility, known as the Wuhan National Biosafety Laboratory, is housed within the Chinese Academy of Sciences and was specifically designed to help Chinese scientists "prepare for and respond to future infectious disease outbreaks,"

It was created after SARS, you gotta wonder just how they were "preparing" at this lab. You don't need anything sinister for this theory, you just need incompetence at the lab.

The conditions of this lab were investigated a few years ago by the American government, during the time that the lab was advertising jobs for coronavirus researchers. The conditions were extremely poor.

of course the reptiles are involved how do you think they off'd the dinosaurs last time?

This.

Well put lean bean!

I’ll play the tinfoil hat card in that case:

The level 4 bio lab in wuhan was funded by the Americans and traces back to non other than Jeffery Epstein/Harvard university (see YouTube: Shaun Attwood’s Jeffery Epstein playlist vids).
The idea is in the short term to undermine the Asian economy (working well) and in the long term to assist in the Committee of 300/Black Monarchy plan to reduce the global population by 50% by 2050. Big Pharmaceutical companies will make huge profits also which all go back to the 300.
See ‘The Committee of 300 by Dr. John Coleman’ in YouTube. This will show the truth to those with eyes to see.
It is just 1 small thread.
5g will make many of us infertile in the short term and cause cancer in the longer term. The weaponised aspect with full coverage will make protest or revolt near on impossible.
The goal is 1 world government with the masses easily managed.
Lots of us are waking up. We can stop this. I am not the masses, I am an individual.
The elite nonces want total power. Let’s stand up and say no. Join your local ‘no 5g’ group and get up and protest. For your kids sake. As the lyrics say if you tolerate this then your children will be next. Take 5 mins and look at the vids. Look at Prince Andrew’s victim Virginia Giuffre’s twitter page. She provides documents from California courts claiming Donald Trump raped a 13 year old child. Why was the case dropped? Why don’t we hear about it? Why do the elites (Clinton, trump, Heath, the royals, etc etc) all nonce? The truth is in plain sight.
Jimmy Savile was prince Charles best mate and gave marriage counciling to Diana. She wrote about it in her autobiography.
Charles best mate: Savile. Andrews best mates: Epstein and maxwell. If you read this far then peace and love.
We are waking up.

Not my opinion but Il play the other card, for the purpose of debate.

China did this to themselves, intentionally. What better way to elevate your economy than to release pathogen which will breeze over the healthy, yet kill sick and old people. Minimising/removing welfare and health costs and leaving behind an entire working populous. What a way to beat the tariffs...wanna bet the cure comes from china too?

FWIW I despise conspiracy theories, they are based in fear and ignorance, all are entitled to their own thoughts though!

As I said this is not my opinion, but we live in a world where all things must be considered, even the things which at times seem impossible are more often than not, just improbable.

Peace x

well crafted conspiracy and a wise epilogue

you wanna corona virus conspiracy eh? well, just ask yourself who profits here

It’s not corona beer that’s for sure lol

Well it did take away the attention from Hong Kong riots

Dangerous move for old man Xi though!

population control lol

If them riots had spread to mainland China how much would that affect the economy

Just throwing some stuff out there

This way the government still has control

Makes sense.
And then it suddenly and quietly disappears.

So is ebola, so is hiv, etc etc.
It is happening in front of our eyes and eat the stories.

Life's not about fairy tales they feed us.

Haha so true!

Of course. Why wouldn't US do this to Russia. Because they know that next day Russians will wave a tiny vial on TV saying they've cured it. And retaliate beyond repair.
Why not Iran? They have nothing to gain. But an economic 'war' with China. One has to make them look ugly and not appealing to deal with.
Same story is with so many African nations.

As a matter of fact, the italian man who was diagnosted with coronavirus walked out of a swiss hospital already. Cured. LOL.

You wouldn't put a virus like that out there to destroy another economy especially one where it effectives old people.

Sure, on Vulcan. But humans don't need able bodies people to die they only need to be scared. And that's what happened.

A virus with a bark bigger than it's bite is optimal for economic destruction and rather Trumpian if you ask me.

That said yeah of course this is just nature at work :)

Says who? Trump?

Nah logic not a orange twat

I wouldnt worry unless Big Pharma sells them the cure.

There’s a very interesting book written by Dean Koontz in 1981 The Eyes Of Darkness, that mentions a virus created in a lab just outside wuhan in labs called Wuhan-400, and he’s prediction is that it will affect humanity around 2020! Wether it’s genuine everyone can make up their own mind, interesting he mentions it though!

Very interesting that (Wuhan 400) is what he called it.

But yeah I can believe it was at least being developed or researched in a lab, and it got out. Maybe Russia were in on it too. After all they caused problems in Salisbury and they clearly don't adhere to international agreements. Germ / bacterial/ viral warfare on a global scale is the next best thing to nukes. At least the earth wouldn't be scorched -- but then the virus would kill the perpetrators too, so fuck knows.
Its a very clever and organically advanced virus too, affecting human lungs. I know "Mother Nature" is clever but ....this virus is quite advanced. Scary shit man.

But I never thought I would be so bored having to stay at home.

Aarrrgghhhh!!!!!!

the lamestream mediocres and corrupt WHO have been warning about a second wave. Now there are new cases springing up in Beijing.

Globally, the first wave is petering out, but the election is not until November.

Makes me wonder if we're being groomed for a second nonsensical lockdown. That history has already shown the first to be bullshit will I assume have no bearing if this is indeed what's coming down the pipe.

If there were some politically motivated opportunist mass gatherings orchestrated, then presumably the spread (of the second wave) could be pinned on these

We need more youngsters in politics and less old farts creaming off the state. I think you reach an age when you start to become more selfish and want to accrue wealth. Bills and mortgages start to wear you down. I was definitely more idealistic when younger. We need to be a lot braver with who we allow to run the world and kick out the old guard. the youngsters are going to be paying off our debts for ever unless we change the system. Guy fawkes had the right idea.

The chant throughout this has been that you “can’t put a price on life” which is ridiculous because we do it all the time. The NHS will not buy expensive cancer drugs unless they extend life for ‘long enough’, councils won’t spend on accident hot spots until a certain number of deaths have been er...’achieved’?!
The equation is called ‘quality adjusted life years’ and it’s frequently used to decide cost vs life. That sum has now been done for the pandemic (freaky task) and yup, it doesn’t add up. The number of quality life years saved versus those to be lost through unemployment, poverty, undiagnosed health conditions, mental stress etc are insignificant.
We fucked up. But then we’re only human....

as a 51yr old father of 11yr old twins (one boy, one girl), and reflecting on how I have myself matured (lack of!) I can honestly offer an opinion that humans may be physically capable of sexual reproduction early mid/teens, but that doesn't make them adults. Likewise 20s and even early 30s. I was a selfish prat right up to having kids. Having kids completely changes your priorities and outlook, including CONFIRMING that kids are, literally, the future. So you're right about preserving the future for younger generations. BUT if adults don't become adults (really!) until they have kids, and human kids can't look after themselves, and anyway don't mature mentally til they have kids, we come full circle, that is why you need 2 generations minimum at the same time. HTH!

I'm 27 with baby number 2 due next month. My life didn't feel lil it had much meaning before becoming a dad, I cared a lot less about everything. As for Corona it's really not a big risk to a vast majority of the population. Most of the people dying are 80+. When the people who are 80+ were born their life expectancy was like 67. They've done well. I think all lives are equal but not all deaths are tragic.

There are elements that are particularly cruel for young generations that have been caused by the benefits enjoyed by older generations. Retirement / pension age is the first to mind. We all retire later if at all because they fucked the pension pot for those claiming now. Housing and land are impossible to buy at reasonable prices, because the older generation owns it all. Wealth disparity grows with extended lifespans, as the elderly hold onto it instead of spending it. But these issues are not the fault of those older generations, but the governments modus operandi of dealing the better cards in the deck to those who can vote at the time and have money. Who cares about the generations that can't support government agendas right now? No one is the answer, and it has resulted in a shit deal for the young that will only get worse as time goes on.

I agree with you

they're going to love the carousel

love this film :) I'm getting to a stage that I almost agree with it :)

Logan's Run will always get an upvote from this bigga.

Great film......must watch it again soon

I believe I am generation X but I will react anyway. It is an interesting discussion and I understand the thought behind it. The biggest issue I have with your statement is: what makes you think that older generations are not impacted by lock downs or other measures against the virus? Like we are all sipping whisky at our 2nd vacation homes. Your generation or any other is not sacrificing more then any other generation. Much love to you all

Probably fair to say they're not going to pay the bills incurred and they're not having their careers snuffed out before they've begun, they're overwhelmingly locked down in better circumstances than the young.

I'm Gen X and thanking my lucky stars I'm not still in hospitality and shared accommodation.

Believe it, at least the buzz part.

100 punks rule!

I don't want my parents to die any more than I want anyone else's, but the quality of life for the young is clearly being sacrificed again for the most protected generation that ever lived.

I'm not old (38) and I very nearly got axed by COVID. I don't have a pre existing condition. It's worth considering that many young or younger people with pre-existing conditions are at high risk, as are the disabled and many mentally ill people. The structures of society also make sure that the poor are disproportionatily affected. So, what you're proposing, hypothetical or not, is a cull on the people in society who most need our support. And, I would add, people who add a huge amount of value to our societies. I am as annoyed by how our 'era' turned out as anyone, but putting boomers to death for the greater good? C'mon. Besides, the ruling class are not all old - they have children, who will inherit. Killing old (rich) people would do nothing for society. Advocating that other (poor) people's parents and grandparents have had their time is basically inhuman, or at least profoundly lacking in empathy.

Glad you are ok bigga and your message is hella important. Can I ask do you think there was a better way to handle this? Are you happy with the whole world shutting down to protect you?

love and respect

"happy" ??? what an awful, miscalculated question.

Kind of irrelevant IMO because as a species we are all doomed anyway, which I'm OK with, but it's shame we're going to take most of the biosphere with us though, as it's really no fault of theirs. We are species out of control and one which is destroying it's environment. The planet will be much better of without us humans stinking up the place!

here's what im thinking, as long as when i'm burned for fuel a billion years from now there's this little bit of thc somehow left there all that time. and it says thanks, yeah, thanks, THANKS.

I disagree strongly with the war comparison - that's not an example of a mutual effort, but the opposite: it's an example of large scale confrontation. People were called up to defend/attack from other people. MILLIONS of people died over YEARS.

This is a public health crisis, not a war. And the young haven't been called up, keyworkers, carers and health staff have. When I've been out and about with my family, it's fairly clear that the younger generations are the least bothered by what's going on, and aren't necessarily abiding by the guidelines to any effective degree.

And sadly, I don't think this is even something defined by the self interest of the ruling class. I think it's exposed the current ruling class is about as clueless as it ever had been. Johnson's flabby ensemble of random wankers have never at any point been good leaders. They got there off the back of a dishonest, divisionary Brexit campaign based on some entirely different agenda. They now have absolutely no idea what they're doing.

Hopefully it will serve as a reminder to humanity that if a democracy is to succeed, you can only back honest, able and skilled statesmen. Anyone less means we're fucked if there's any deviation from their intended narrative.

I don't blame anyone in this scenario. It's a collective human failure that it escalated to this scale. What I think matters now is the outlook, vision and ability of the leaders that might rebuild for the future. In 2019, world leadership probably never looked so weak... in the entirety of human history. And in the UK, we've currently got one of the most inept setups. BUT. Look at Starmer circling, look what we need to overcome, look what we want to build.

Give it a year or two and I think HOPE will be a usable word again. The Johnson/Trump/Bullshit breed need to move aside.

THIS!

Yes but the fact that people are even looking to politicians in an era of science, free flow of information and consensus building media - why the fuck do we still have the twats?

agree somewhat, the damage to economy is going to kill tens of thousands alone, potentially more than would be lost to Covid, but perhaps not (Not an expert by any means). I invite people to look at how many people died on average each 2010-2015 due to austerity measures and debt. Suicides will go up to.

You'll have to send out the nurse on the Segway and take my teeth away!

it's just their point in the cycle. the saddest part is that they think they're enlightened when they're actually browbeaten hippy-child retards.

I know my case is extreme, but its not just old people who need protecting. My son is 2 years old and immunocompromised from chemotherapy. I don't fully believe in the lockdown but it is a bit more assuring for me that it isn't running rampant out there.

all the best to your son and thanks for your perspective

You definitely have a point.

The approach of "us-versus-them' is in fact a very European way of dealing with matters.

Indifference to social position, and consequently, acceptance of one's social status no matter what it is, became somehow a doctrine and a duty in the current world (if we are honest to ourselves): it is really the ideal philosophy, an ideological superstructure adequate to peacefully govern our world, conquered with its own consent.

'The old" send "the young" to wars. Because, "the young" (well, all ages really) willingly accept, for example, army duty.
It is only natural, that in current situation, "the young" are contemplating 'retaliation'. :)

I think, the value of a human life became something very insignificant.
Young people wait on the old to die in retirement homes, old are upset with the young, that they show no respect, etc.

A vicious circle.

And we do not really value human life, because we do not understand the concept of self-worth.
Which is nowadays confused with 'pouvoir d'achat', like they say in french (ability to buy). Just look at who the majority of humans are looking up to (movie stars, ufc fighters, etc.)

The thing is, we are never independent or self-made, and we all hopefully will be old one day too. So what connects old and young is gratitude.

No life is more important than another, whether it is an old life or a young one.
And no ideology or state will defend this point at all times, speaking sociologically or/and economically. It is self-damaging to an ideology or a state.

Should we or should we not do this or that? I don't know. Each individual should decide for himself.
I know that generalising (oh those olds, oh those youngs, oh those russians, oh those arabs, oh those french, oh those - would be an insult to my own intelligence.

A boomer is different from another boomer. And i am a survivor and want my children to be survivors too.

I may be never be in a position where i can decide on a broader scale of "should we or should we not".
But i can decide on my personal level and i just value life more than i value my ego.

Here is my humble opinion.

Thank you for being brave and raising this point.
It is important to discuss without fear to offend.
That is what freedom of speech is no?

Very thoughtful post (what a pleasure to read this instead of another sycophantic review), thank you for it my bigga.

I'm going to differ on one point. I think the perceived value of life is heading up and pretty much always has.

We are in the midst of the greatest human sacrifice for the least number of lives (in relative terms) ever.

Today's wars kill fewer in total than we lost in a week in WW1 or 2.

Murder rates are way down compared to history.

The financial investment made to squeeze out a few more years is more substantial than even our most recent ancestors could ever imagine.

There's lots more stats like this, they are hard to see when media profits from perceived conflict and makes everything look cataclysmic to get your attention.

Took the words right outa my mouth ;)

Interesting read here

It is an interesting read. A prospective.

But, I believe what i see and I see a lot of tragedy.

Im in the self employed bracket its truly shit but i think society will come out of this better on the whole

I am in the same boat and i like your positive outlook.

"Have no fear for atomic energy
'Cause none of them can stop the time" - right?

We should also come out of this with as less damage and casualties as possible.

Been self-employed throughout 3 different continents and over a decade already and self-employed equals survivor to me at this point.

What if we just quarantine the old baby boomers and give them priority at hospitals, that way the rest of us can keep the world going and contsruct what they need.

This bigga booma had it 9 months ago. I have had my first shot of the vaccine just before xmas. Three weeks ago, we had an outbreak at work... forensic mental health. We kicked the virus' arse.

Not all boomers are bastards.

Disclaimer: if I am a bastard, it has nothing to do with my age. This old goblin girl has always been one. :-)

Neji
x

Places should be open to people that are tested or recovered.

I’m out of job

So sorry, fella. I hope something comes along soon.

I am sorry to read that.
Is being self-employed an option?

I was self employed hehe

I was in that small percentage who got no help lol and im sure i speak for many...

Unless i change my services...im hoping it blows over soon

Stay safe Vik

I see.

My family at the moment is throwing punches at the state mechanisms of supporting struggling businesses - we apparently fall into a category of self-employed families with children.

It's been already more than a month of letters' skirmish haha

Nightmare i know...

Im terrible with all that stuff it stresses me out

I need a secretary lol