I hear you, I’ve made my last order on here for a while I think, what bugs me is not so much the fees but the rates at which it grows. What I spent this month last year would buy me 5 times that this month.
Buying a consumable item with gold is the height of craziness so I’m putting on the brakes

Happy to provide the service PollyPuff, it’s like a really good odds lottery ticket.

I’m really fancying some wafer thin Polynesian Mint myself.

Glad to here you have received your order , hope you enjoyed the order also we look forward to hearing from you soon .

VL

Last time I risked $10, the seller claimed to have shipped it 3 times and nothing arrived. Then the order expired. Can't even remember the pricks name but his shenanigans mean I will never use a new seller.
If it seems to good to be true, it probably is.

Just so there's no misunderstanding, the prick that ripped me off was NOT Vancouver Leafz and my anecdote is not related to them at all.

That’s no attitude to have LazarusLong we are new vendors trying to get our reputation up we acknowledge that there is a lot of scammers but all we can say is we’re 100% legitimate these packs landing should show don’t judge our page when you have done no business with us what so ever .

VL

I'm afraid you may have some 'guilt by association' (unfairly, probably) due to the BCA scammers. They started off looking very above board and building a community only to exit scam after a few months. I was one of the stupid/unfortunate ones to get sucked in by them.
If you stick at (sound like you are) and orders keep dropping then you should be ok. There is a healthy amount of cynicism due to scammers having been on here quite a lot in the last twelve months. People are (rightly so IMHO) being more careful with new vendors. Probably a bit underhand for a non customer to straight out call you scammers but stranger things have happened. Thats my twopenneth worth anyway......

My apologies. I didn't intent to criticize you, I was just sharing my recent experience.

How long did it take to ship? Or did it ship from uk?
Regards
BH

Ordered 3
Marked dispatch 4
Arrived 24.

Postage and stealth was perfectly fine, not as slick as some operators, but it’s a $10 parcel.

So delighted to see it ... mine is ordered eagerly awaiting postman hopefully the next day or 2 ... looks nice can't wait!!

Hopefully soon enough I’m hearing of some delays from Canada with post but fingers crossed she arrives safe and sound soon .

VL

Still waiting on mine, glad to see someone got it ! Looks good too

Yea you can custom fees though it will probably take longer for the transaction to occur but even just now that will only mean about 50% off the fee.
I am afraid we are all stuck with higher fees just now,if you are looking for someone to blame i would suggest those dumb Americans who use it as an investment like gold and silver and have stuck billions into it hoping for a get rich quick scheme,that is why we are all paying high fees.
Personally i hope btc drops back to $10k so i can watch them cry.

Custom fees, if your exchange allows

I just wish the LB payment cut off time was longer than 30 minutes! Then I would use custom fees but I’m always fearful I set too low and it takes too long to clear and causes problems.

You can miss the cut off and shows up as late but order will still come through

Interesting. I’ve seen some posts saying it has taken too long and the price has changed? Which doesn’t make sense to me. Does the transaction not show as in progress to the vendor? Anyway maybe you need to set the custom fees at a reasonable rate, for a few hours not 24 hours? Problem is you don’t set the the time but the sat/bits rate but how to determine the time scale? Don’t you love bitcoin, it’s much better than fiat money (heavy sarcasm!)

“Copped the right strop” I like it! It’s all frustrating and maybe a computer whizz understands bitcoin more than us. All I keep thinking is imagine the uproar if you paid £100 for something on credit card and when it came to paying it off (on time, no interest) you were asked to pay £110 because the “exchange rate” has changed? The product is listed at 0.003 btc, I’m sending 0.003 what does it matter how long it takes? Oh I’m sure someone is now shaking their head and thinking “tut tut it doesn’t work like that” but is this a failing of bitcoin or the LB processes? Sorry LB I love you really :)

I think that you build up a trust score of sorts with transaxe so it will approve the transaction even if you lower the the fee. I would guess its dependent on size of transaction and how many previous transactions you have made via LB all I know is that I have halved the fees on some recent transactions and they have been marked at complete but funds haven't moved until much later that day.

I want to know things are more or less as described, and aren't underweight.

Quality is subjective.

It's a rough metric for me. I don't tell other people how to review and don't expect the same in return. Personally, with respect, I don't really worry about what people believe. If people want to go into detail and be more explanatory, that's up to them. The metric serves well as a trust device, not a wine taster's palate guide, at least for me.

I much prefer outdoor organically grown herb. So it's "better" than puffed up hydro grown from my point of view. Others may describe my preferred herb as "no bag appeal/too loose/not dense/not stinky" etc

Therefore reviews are subjective as opinions are involved.

Hence a more complex score rating system would achieve nothing other than confusion.

imho ofc ;)

The rating/review system works out as a very vague guide on LB. You should be able to work out who will actually get you something in a reasonable time frame. And perhaps if their stealth is adequate.

As to the quality and detail of the products themselves, the reviews aren't particularly useful. Time for an analogy...

Let's say you're really into your music. The finest thing in your world might be a rare, crackly first edition vinyl of a virtually unknown band, released in the early 1970's. Are the pops and crackles in the audio a good thing? Is this better then music released last year? Does this even make sense to someone who only listens to opera... or jungle... or K-pop?

Most people are only in-tune with what the mass market presents. If you know better, those opinions are largely irrelevant.

Its the relative ratings that matter. It's a very good bet that if 2 items have 50 ratings and one has a higher rating that it's better, especially if the price is similar.

Why we need rankings to see this at a glance.

I must've been lucky or selected the right people??

I do agree would be good to see product / seller rating split.

i like the blurb but not walls of text, im usually too baked to read it all.

Only had 5 strains so far and a hash. all were top notch.

i would say A******* give or take a star LOL

my few reviews are done while smoking and 20 mins sat on my ass staring at screen ;)

Me too

I'm glad I'm not the only one hahaha

I've given up on the reviews. They are pretty much useless as most people rate before they have even tried it which is a massive pet peeve for me. I now have an edibles guy and a vape guy and a backup seller. It just seems like this site has a bit of a dark vibe to it atm there seems to be a lot of people complaining about orders being wrong or lost and bad communication. I will also leave a review on the sellers page with a bit of detail about the product so people can know a bit more about the product instead of just reading lots of 10/10 but I haven't tried it yet reviews

Yeah man I dont get the whole review before you receive thing, i mean how on earth can you leave something helpful for others if you aint even tried it yet.
I always try to mention qualiry, stealth and how heloful vendors have been etc, its only fair.

It drives me nuts. Can you think of anywhere else you would leave a review before trying. You don't walk past a restaurant, look at the menu in the window and then post how its great but your not going to eat there until next week

seem the wall algorithms definitely prefer photos as well

definitely need a new ranking system, and we also need a new system for item descriptions too, we need to ban the copy and paste meta

it's honestly getting to a point where 95% of the bud listed on here has no personal / accurate information on the product whatsoever, every copy and paste description from google serves no purpose when describing a product that always has unique differences EVERY single time it's grown! the google descriptions literally serve no purpose whatsoever to anyone.

not only does it show immense lazyness on the side of so many so called professional vendors, but it always shows a lack of care for the product, and most importantly, a DEEP LACK OF CARE FOR THE CUSTOMER!

if you cant be bothered to give us a description of the product we are shelling out huge amounts of cash for, then i'm not going to be stupid enough to buy it from you!
so many vendors acting like they "care for the community" yet put up the most low effort listings humanly possible and then they moan when they have to follow up with question after question on topics asking about this batch of the strain and half the time not getting a response!

if you vendors really are true smokers, you would definitely be putting a personal description of each product, particularly the smell and taste of each of your listings since this is so important to 99% of smokers, yet you just leave us with the generic useless copy and paste random descritptions!

if anything it goes to show lazyness, greed, lack of professionalism, and most importantly shows you are only in this for the money and all these weak efforts you occasionally go to to make it look like "you are here for the community" become less and less believeable!

I agree but the shills mainly come from vendors who review there own products get banned eventually then reappear under new names

Well put, the average ratings from verified purchases are more informative than the reviews which often read more like love letters rather than criticism.

Could it be the weed was that good they fall in love with the vendor? xD

serious problem in this game :)

Sounds about right lol.

nobody needs to push weed. people be lining up to buy it right now with how things are.

I appreciate all the reviews here; few have let me down. We need more buyer feedback not more criticism of it. Feel free to lead by example.

People oft moan about the rating system. but it's pretty obvious it's end purpose. The rating is for the overall sale; not just the weed itself. People are able to judge it however nicely or harshly they like with a review to help others below the item.

Out of curiosity who are you referring to? Anyone specific or just people who do reviews with photos in general?

I'm one of those people . Lol am I considered a shill? I'll praise the ass off a product if I like it, pictures included!

In no order RB, TGT, ULC and Smoggyman all been consistently top sellers for me over the months but it all comes down to what strains and type of grows are best for you, helps if you know what you want.

You're mad if you think all these topics and pics on here are from shills though, weed doesn't need pushing because people already want to buy it that is literally the only reason to be on this site :) The only seller(s) who need shills are the ones that get banned and come back under new names.

Gotta say I agree 100% I can't imagine there is anyone on here that would need to do it unless they got banned and tried to come back lol.

Vendor wise I think you've nailed it other than missing DIUK. They have had some of the best stuff I've smoked in years on here recently.

I've only had one order with DIUK but it was a banging bit. Some of their "wow" stuff lately has looked amazing. Will have to get in on some of it soon!

The wow mac 10 and ice cream cake are hands down the nest stuff I've had from LB. I've had a lot of strains from DIUK but the recent Wow range they have got in with their new grower is just next level compared to the rest.

big up

I'm probably just being thick but what does shills mean?

Refers to someone who is a mate or benefits somehow from giving good reviews.

As a footnote if anyone wants to give me free green I’ll give 10/10 all day long lmao

haha me too!

Ahhh ok that makes sense. Thanks for that mate :)

I put up quite a few reviews but I can honestly say I have no affiliations with any vendors and I just enjoy writing reviews when I've had an amazing smoke. I don't review every one I get because that would take too much time haha.

Can you please rank the sellers?

Do you want rankings in terms of comms and service or bud quality or price? It would honestly vary depending on what you were ranking them for :)

Thank you Mhokurtz each or any criterion you can rank would benefit.

Hmmm ok off the top of my head so apologies of I've missed anyone.

Price id have to say BB, RB and DIUK are always very good for prices and often have a range from budget up to premium to cater for all pockets

Comms and service I've got to say ULC, UK Dank Direct and Super hans are always spot on for comms and they all tend to get back to you very quickly with a nice personal touch.

Bud quality id have to give shoutouts to RB, ULC and DIUK as all 3 of them have always sent me buds that have been good sizes and great smokes.

There are a lot of vendors I haven't tried and I'm sure there are some absolute great ones I've yet to use so don't take my word as gospel and always remember to keep an open mind and use your own best judgement.

My best advice will always be if you are unsure of anything then message the vendor first. Nearly all issues on here can be resolved by talking....we are all stoners at the end of the day and none of us want to deal with the aggro cos that just ruins a great high lol .

thanks Mhokurtz

No worries dude. Credit where credit is due....and thats a prime example of how quick to get back to people you are so that just proves my point lol.

Keep it up dude

I don't really bother with green but for hash, you can't go wrong with hashtaguk or JJ. Great stuff, fair prices and reliable delivery. Excellent customer service too. I ain't a shill. Just appreciate good stuff and good people. If I can get such top drawer stuff, I'm happy to promote them lol.

I think as important as the stealth and comms side of things are it’s confusing if the bud is a 6 why would you rate a 10/10 overall just cause they’ve been nice to you and sent it on time... it’s misleading and I have to say I’ve had some very poorly cured/ flushed bud on here with no sign of this on the ratings. Maybe a separate service rating then just a rating based purely on the bud would be helpful particularly to new buyers who could easily get coned with the current system. Just my thoughts peace

Sorry to arrive late to the party! After reading the thread and giving it some thought, I totally agree that the current rating sysyem is flawed but it is better than nothing. Dodgy vendors will eventually always get found out, regardless if they have a couple of shills leaving glowing reviews - usually unfeasibly quickly after they announce themselves as new vendors. Not everyone leaving reviews is a shill though and once genuine negative reviews start piling up, the 1 or 2 love letters with amazing pics at the start, count for nothing. Also some people arent comfortable leaving a long or in depth or even honest review, for lots of reasons, could be a little worried or intimidated by vendors (who obviously have their names and addresses) even if LB says all reviews are anonymous, people are nervous and so a quick 10/10 with no words leaves the vendor happy, even if the customer truly isnt. Everyone is different but personally I would ideally like to see the following information on any weed and vendor page to help my decsion to buy, out of 10 seems fairest imo:
Vendor: 1) Comms 2) Speed of posting (speed of delivery is out of vendors hands really especially now 3) Stealth/packaging 4) % of confirmed orders that actually get delivered or % of reships and refunds
Product: 1) Bag appeal 2) Smell/flavour 3) Cure/trim 4) Potency/Value for money.
After writing it down, it does seem like a lot but if every review contained some or all of these points, would everyone be able to make a proper informed choice or is it overkill? What does everyone think, what info would you guys look for in particular?

agree-dry vape is most efficient

but carts are so darn convenient

Vaping 100% but depends on the vape, I burn though loads of bud on shitty vapes, even my dynavap which I hate and now don’t use shifts though bud if I actually want to get high... a nice bowl of the mighty gets me nicely chilled and a top up with a dosing cap sometimes is plenty, using far less than I’d use combusting for sure. A Log vape is the way forward, my flowerpot Weedeater can get me to brutal stoned off 0.1g lol, it’s just incredible but I far far prefer the ritual of a nice mighty bowl.

Ps. Good call on the Craft+ the S&B products are monsters, looking into the plenty now as the mighty never leaves home anyways.

I had a plenty but sold it. Not very good compared with the mighty. Good luck though, you may like it;)

Really I just need a bigger bowl than the Mighty can offer for big sessions on the weekend, literally only reason I’m considering it. Why didn’t you like it can I ask? I’ve never tried one so interesting you’ve used both so can help me compare.

It holds a lot but you need to pack it to get a decent draw and also it takes ages to get a decent draw because it’s so big it takes a long time to heat the metal tube/ chamber which cools the vapour, but takes a lot of your weed away by making it condense on the inside which is a bitch to clean. It’s like a bigger mighty for sure but just like boxers and fighters, the mighty is bantam weight , fast and great technique, the plenty is a heavyweight, slower and worse technique;) the volcano is a better option for your group sessions, it has a whip now;) I also had one of those but sold it because the vapour made me cough too much. I am a mighty fan boy;)

Also it takes about 7 grams of bud to make a gram of concentrate. One vendor on here was doing grams of shatter for $40. Try getting a q for that price.

I use a pax 2 for herb and the pax 3 internal oven for hash with vape wool, I think the trick is getting the right amount of wool round it too little or too much can mess it up. I load the base with a small amount of weed and top it up with chamomile. I don't think the pax gives an even cook, that's why I only put a small amount in. Hash is hit or miss but with practice the hit ratio is increasing. Sometimes I just blast the pipe to guarantee a hit. Would be nice to find the perfect take out portable vape though. Always looking to upgrade coz it would save money.

Vape the bud and bong the hash;)

Hey Raggley,

I’ve recently found little t breaks and fasting with either edibles or vaping gives me the best run for my money.

T breaks- sometimes order just before or just after running out, gives a day or two off, then it’s cheaper and lowers your tolerance

Vaping- you can use the vaped bud like decarb for coffee and edibles or concentrates to play around with.

Fasting or intermittent fasting combined with any method works very well for getting more for less.

I’ve seen some cheap packs for popcorn and shake which you can also use for edibles

You can save your stems to make tinctures or infused oils too.

To get you going you can easily make canna coconut oil or infused alcohol (tinctures) at home with your spare bits x

100% Logvape... Although not a log, it’s very similar I have the Flowerpot Weedeater and Vrod and I can put 0.05 in have 2 nice hits and a little cleanup hit and I’m deffo stoned, first time I used it I was fucking shocked man, coming from someone that smokes a couple of 0.5-0.7 Spliffs at night it very impressive.

Butane vape.

Is this for use with concentrates or herb?

Herb. Dynavap, stickybrick, Elev8r. More instant hit than electronic vapes IMV.

Vaping concentrates in both Dynavap and Elev8r work real well, I'm just not sure they're good value considering. Make a damn good garnish on any bowl of green though.

I have the dynavap but it's too hot and harsh for my lungs.

Someone else, the only person other than me it seems that just doesn’t get the Dynavap... hot, harsh, barely any vapour and no effect... And this is over 3 diff dynas, it’s so odd.

Have you tried it with a small dry bong?

I have not. I have a glass mouthpiece for it but no glassware. Anything in particular you'd recommend?

Sneaky Pete Baby Bong V2 XL for DynaVap, small & excellent, if you can find it as it sells out very fast!

I use the dosing capsule with the crafty+ it's a smaller amount and keeps it quite clean! I have the dynavap m and it's the coolest thing ever but unfortunately it completely ruins my lungs! Are you running through water?

Eating surely as there is no waste? Even a henry of hash can last 3 days for the most heavy smokers. Eat it all in one go and you literally will wake up 3 days later.

A Henry lasts me a week these days! :-D 1/2 a g per day

I think with a dry herb vaporizer you will get the best bang for your buck.

With mine i use 25% of what i would normally use in a blunt and get’s me BAKED.

I think im doing it wrong then becoz ive stopped using my dry herb vape becoz i think im wasting weed, it doesn't even get me touched. I might be doing something wrong tho.

Which vape though man? Some I’ve tried have been fuvking atrocious.

Mighty. Don’t skimp on your vape;)

Nah I’m wondering what vape he’s using, Mighty and Flowerpot owner here, the Mighty is a beast isn’t it man, just got a new long glass stem, makes it even better mate.

Sounds to me like maybe your vape isn't very good, or maybe it needs a good clean. A good vape should be much more efficient compared to the same quantity combusted

good question. I still smoke bud via the good old joint and have tried vaping. Didnt work for me but then again maybe I didnt invest in a good enough dry herb vaporiser, I bought the nebula fuzion, just found it made me cough alot, the higher the heat setting the better the hit but the cough it brought on was pretty heavy. Still didnt feel the hit was anywhere near as nice as a joint. I get that I probably need to invest in a better vape. Was thinking of getting a good water bong instead, with an ice chamber. Dont know if that would save money though but may mean i can use less tobacco + the ice chamber hopefully makes it cooler and smoother....maybe. Also perhaps it was just while I was trying out the dry herb vaporise, but I feel alot of weed was wasted trying to find the best setting to get the best hit, and like i already said it wasnt as good a hit as a dirty old J

I agree with everything u said here, from that lung hit u get to the uncontrollable coughing and the amount of weed u waste trying to find the best temp an stuff...still it might be my cheap vape, dont want to give up on it just yet but dont want to waste anymore money on another

Yep. I invested in some poor vapes. But it wasn't until i got the crafty that i quite easily gave up smoking

Yeah i probably thought as much. The nebula is a pocket sized one, just makes me cough like a mofo, was £60 I think. Looked at volcano which is pricey, as is the crafty but not quite as expensive.
Is the crafty smooth then? Felt like with the nebula I would have to turn the heat up to get a hit, which then meant alot of coughing, its weird because the smoke doesn't feel hot, just irritates the lungs the higher the heat...

might have to take a look at the crafty....

still tempted by a bong with some good cooling system though as well

I was sceptical at first bro. And you can't really trust the reviews online cos they all seem fake/ paid for. Not only does the crafty really chuck clouds compared to the others but also it's just such a smooth air path. That's really what you're paying for. The small portable are usually crap because the heating element is cheap and quite often causes unwanted combustion but also due to their small size, the air path is very short and in turn harsh.

I think you have convinced me to try the crafty. just have to figure out the additional cash flow.

anyone selling it you can recommend?

I like vapefiend but having looked it's quite pricey at 220ish. It's on herbalize for only 169 although i haven't used that site before so can't comment on their service quality.

So I took the plunge. Can pay on paypal on a 3 month pay plan as well. But I didnt go for crafty or mighty in end. I went for Arizer solo 2. Ranked in alot of top 10s above the crafty...i know maybe just advertising sites but th more research and videos I watched it seemed the better choice. I dont like sound of the battery or charger on new crafty but maybe it was getting mixed up with older crafty versions. Anyways, this is a high quality dry herb vaporiser which supposedly has good quality vape, also bought a bong adapter.

UPDATE: Raggley, you were right. That extra money spend, as I guess would be expected, does guarantee a more quality vaping experience. The Arizer Solo 2 provides a good quality smooth vape that puts my other vape to shame (Nebula Fuzion). Arizer provides amazing flavour, battery life and easy maintenance and good amount of vape. I can now see myself being able to step away from the baccy...

I didnt go for the herbalizestore.co.uk offer, looked a bit dodgy on trustpilot.

I may check out the volcano in the future, but the Arizer should serve me well for the time being

Hey bro.. I'm happy for you! You made a good choice there.. I don't know if the arizer chucks out quite as much vapour as the mighty/crafty but they are beatifully crafted machines and very high in my estimations.
How are you getting on with it?

loving it. swapped my skinning up ritual for my grinding and loading up ritual. Got a bong adapter for it too. havent smoked a baccy joint for over a week now.

Really happy for you. After a while I really started preferring that clean and healthy buzz from the vape. All the best to you

Make sure it's the Crafty plus because it has the better battery life. The Mighty is the bigger brother.. by that i mean it has a bigger battery although in use it's exactly the same power/vapor output. I prefer the crafty though as it's smaller and charges via usb rather than the mighty which is a wall wart.
Feel free to pm me if you need any help

Thanks mate. Given the cost its probs going to be something i look at for March now. Will ping you then. Defo would like to smoke less tobacco, then again i dont smoke cigs, if theres no weed in it i dont smoke it...