I was raised catholic and this is seriously the best joke I’ve read on this site lmao

Mass murder; centuries of child abuse, financial manipulation of countries and its peoples, stifling science for centuries, masses of lies and corruption, manipulating the world, controlling the weak minded, instilling a ridiculous morality onto its followers that only incites hatred and misery

The catholic churuch is just the greatest group of criminals to ever exist

God I’m so proud to be catholic 😂

You forgot to include wealthiest, if the Roman Catholic Church realised all it's assets then they could probably eradicate world poverty in a year

Facts

What mass murders?

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All Abrahamic religions are backwards and immoral, imo.

Christian god Genocided the whole planet to prove a point, and the Muslim Prophet, well, look up the age of Aisha when he married her.

We no longer need religion, its just a tool to distract and divide people.

Edgy.

The Catholics needed a pedant on their side not a pendant. Taken literally this position gets a lot easier to defend.

I'm not sure trying to peg any organisation as objectively good or bad is possible, but also fuck the Catholic Church and all they are.

This reminds me of a Jam lyric: "We were no match for their untamed wit".

Jesus is King

are there any gods that support democracy?

laugh all you like but the basic philosophy of jesus is love and that is exactly what the world needs.

Yet his loudest followers scream at women at abortion clinics, promote violence towards gay people and basically act like 15th century bigots with torches

Doesn’t sound very loving to me, sounds more like a relationship with Ike Turner

Jesus spoke beautiful words but they’ve been twisted and manipulated to spread hate not love by the loudest “believers” as evidenced in every evil act done in the name of Jesus or Christianity

I’m gonna stick to worshipping the truest deity known to man- our lady and saviour MARY JANE 🤣

im wit u and the lady but remember the loudest followers for anything aren't the truest

When have God fearers and followers of jesus christ ever attacked anyone, gay or straight?

with that but the question remains

God is not democratic or wavering in any way, its his way or the burning pits for eternity he mentions he is a jealous God and if you are two minded then you are not with him

Yes but they die in an apocalyptic battle with stupidity

Objectively for its merit orthadox Christianity seems like a good guide to me. The scope of practicing virtue and aiming to overcome vices and sin I can't really think of a more noble cause. I think it's definitely not for the feint hearted and seems we're in an age of hedonism with little to no solid, tangible spiritual values.

Living to a higher power or God has a drastic effect on people in the relms of recovery and elsewhere. I am coming to terms with it as it as a path over the self and see great oppertunity with aligning ones values for a greater purpose and in vitro achieving one's own potential while on this earth.

Probably the most original and though through answer. I myself know God exist but even if he didn't and I just thought he did, everything the bible teaches about morals and character has made me a better person and it does the same with anyone who follows the teachings of jesus christ. Jesus only had 12 disciples and it says in the bible following jesus will lead to ridicule and struggle. Earth is Satan's playground and we are vastly out numbered but when all returns to dust only almighty God will remain.

And saying the church and its various denominations are a true representation of God and all who follow is the same as saying jihadist and the taliban are a true representation of all Muslims and all who follows Islam.

All religions no matter what are just man made ideas and a collection of stories. Stories that were spoken often over a drink and made into whatever you made up round a fire. People needed controlling with a certain fear thousands of years ago and needed a divine leader. I'm uncomfortable with it all. It's all just made up. And to think it is the basis of all wars, man made ideology. Bad work I say

yea sure why not, in general i think the catholic church is a force for good in the world

Let's have a look at bit of history:
1) Reconquista of Spain - overcame the previous more liberal Islamic Al-Andalus. Explusion of Jews & Muslims
2) The cultural rape of the Americas - effectively extinguishing the native way of life
3) All of those European wars which were pretty much Catholics vs Prods (Prods as bad as Catholics in this case)
4) More recently - at a time of AIDs and other STDs saying use of condoms 'evil'.
5) Messing up the psyche of its followers by seeing sex as dirty
6) A great place to work as a preist if you don't like adult women and prefer to have sex with under age boys and girls.

Boooom

If I were a smart man I’d have worded my reply this well haha

Love use of such modern issues caused by the church, generally people seem to think the evil they’ve done is centuries ago, but there’s so much in modern history; in living memory that prevents catholism from ever being objectively “good”

I don't think I've ever heard or seen Widdicombe and not immediately wanted to scrape my eyes out and shove dynamite in my ears.

What a horrificly horrible and hateful person she is. Eugh

We know you want her.

who wouldnt

I don't like Anne Widdecombe at all, but from what I remember from this debate (I watched it a few years ago) she switched from Christianity to Catholoisim because of the amount of hypocrisy in the C of E.

Now don't even get me started on the hypocrisy in the Catholic Church, but I must admit I do somewhat sympathise with the point she was making.

You can't have a religion based upon a book that says "we don't agree with homosexuality" then just ignore that view because it's no longer popular.

It's like the Christian Church is now willing to ignore any of its doctrines just to remain "relevant", and get some likes on Twitter.

If you're going to be a bigoted religion, at least own it.

I'm not really into arguing about religion or politics, and I'm neither religious nor particularly political, but I do have to admit a begrudging respect for any religion that at least sticks by it's dogmatic roots, however ridiculous those roots are.

That's pretty much all I got from Widdicombe that was worth thinking about.

The rest of her nonsense....isn't worth anyone's time.

Cheers BB 😊👍🍻

All versions of Christianity ignore some parts of the bible because it's not popular. The Bible says not to wear two different types of fabric at once, and to sell your daughter to her rapist, but no Christians are abiding by that. They are all as bad as each other, to pretend like she's calling out hypocrisy by changing from one hateful religion to another is so deceitful, another part of the reason she is scum.

starting to sound like a fun read, any sightings?

In what book and chapter is this mentioned please?

Seems like your listening to people instead of reading the bible for yourself

Dunno if you ever saw her debating with Stephen Fry and I think Chris Hitchins or possibly Jordan Peterson at Oxford? Between them they gave her the best fucking she's ever had

Every super power has its good and evil sides too it it’s up too you to keep them balanced in the right way.

Already seen this you don't want to know my take as a Satanic/pagan Witch/warlock ... But i agree with stephen about most things. The part i can't stomach is that The church brag (Or used to) about their il educated followers from africa.. one reason why i returned to the ways of my old english ancestors.. in all things balance and respect for nature and our home.. Ave Lucifer the light bringer and Giver of knowlage .. Ave lilith mother of all witches and reflection of the black sun.

"Giver of knowlage..."

Well that all sounds pretty knowlagabel to me.

Were do I syne up?

Cheers BB 👌

XD lucifer before the bible... In Roman folklore, Lucifer was the name of the planet Venus, Also worshiped as a wisdom god.

Is spelling and grammar not a part of "wisdom and knowledge?" (or knowlage)

You'd have thought the old Lucibubs would've at least armed you with a dictionary.

Anyway, each to their own. ❤️

Cheers BB 😊👍🍻

this explans it better https://partiallyexaminedlife.com/2020/02/25/lucifer-how-a-decent-deity-got-a-bad-rap-part-1/ and i was never very good at eather of those i was always more creative. XD i'll be the first one to admit i can't spell and my grammer since the net has gone to pot ... XD

There's nothing wrong with having limited spelling and grammar buddy, but I struggle to understand why you would come on here claiming "wisdom and knowledge" given to you by some dark force when you can't even spell the words properly....

I know nothing about open heart surgery, so I'm not going to claim I have "specialism in the field" when it's very clear I don't.

Wisdom has nothing to do with education, but to claim you have wisdom AND knowledge, because you worship the devil...

Yet you can't even spell 'knowledge'...

Sorry. But that needed to be called out.

Spelling and grammar are nothing. Manners maketh the man.

All the best and like I say, each to their own just please don't claim to have superiority in wisdom and knowledge by worshiping anyone, least of all the devil and witches.

Cheers BB

i don't worship any deity i work with them and i never claimed they gave me anything. the last part of what i said was just Veting or honouring the witch king and queen ( the male and female aspects of nature) i never claimed anything...

Fair enough buddy, sorry if I got the wrong end of the stick.

All the best ❤️

Cheers BB 😊

No problem BB also Keats and Einstein (sry for the spelling) couldn't spell so saying somone is not wise because they can't spell i feel is redundant. i guess what im trying to say even the dumbest of us can be wise. I mean even the dimist of sparks like myself still puts out a little light :)

Now you're making me feel bad. 😔 Sorry. I do post derogatory shit sometimes when I'm awake late.

You keep doing your thing buddy if it makes you happy.

Much love to you. ❤️

Cheers BB 😊🍻

same G we are not perfect only human after all eh ? :) And i will, I feel what ever faith or not anyone follows if it makes them a better person it can only be a good thing right ? ... i just feel some where along the path people started to use it for control and not to help and heal..

Pitching the devil sounds like an interesting line of work.

pay is great just ask jk rowling

2nd Greatest woman alive.

the word Devil means adversary... Rowling XD are you another one of those magic is the work of the devil hacks??

not the devil but the witch king look up traditional witchcraft...