sorry for your loss, we dont send international now as we don't want unhappy customers and also our terms were crystal clear at beginning, which you agreed to, international was entirely at your risk. in our eyes, we have taken extra risk sending international in the first place and provided reference as proof and that was all we agreed to.

Iv always found radar breeder to be very help in the event of non delivery, he had guidelines for a reason and he always follows them! Cheers TB

Dear Jamal

Although I sympathise with you, you can not blame the seller in this instance can you? The seller upheld his end and posted your item and obtained tracking number ? AFTER this, it is out of the sellers hands, and into third party hands of the postal services and customs .... mark sellers on THEIR performance, and not on the genuine fault of customs and postal services etc.

Have you checked the address on the UK postcode address service? Jamal ? Because maybe if this address was not EXACTLY the same as on the UK computers then it may have been rejected by COMPUTERS ! Put in the exact address you gave the seller and search, even one or two letters or numbers can cause a rejection. Please search online, and with Royal Mail UK. Hope this helps

Radar Breeder Clearly STATES his policies .... also

''DON'T ORDER IF YOU DON'T AGREE.'' This is from RadarBreeder's Public Profile Page

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I feel hard done by that it never left the original country dude, with the same address I’ve had this seller and another ship too. It’s strange! As stated, if it hit the post correctly but never showed up at my door I wouldn’t be complaining.

Stupidly, I didn’t even use PGP, so there was no room for error on the address form.

RB actually sent me the wrong strain the first time around too (ordered black sugar rose/indica, and was sent a Sativa haze) as well as taking about 4 days and 3 messages to get me the tracking number that I paid $19 for. So it’s been an overall bad customer experience for me.

What’s done is done, I’ve made my point and hopefully people don’t think I’m being unreasonable.

Onwards and upwards, hopefully lots of success to come!

Awww Jamal,

I really DO feel for you, all buyers have been there, and still go through this crap everyday !!!

And NO I do not think you are being unreasonable, you paid good money upfront for a product off the internet, you are at the mercy of the seller and postal services until it arrives in your hands. LOTS of hands and computers and security to get through before it gets to your front door !

I understand, I have literally wasted hundreds and hundreds, making errors on here or sellers making errors, or bad products, or bad postal service etc etc etc ... I could go on an on for days.

BUT at the end of the day, Jam ... you do exactly as you feel to do, and if that means you felt like you should bring this to the publics attention, then that is what you have the right to do.

:)

What country was it going to?

It’s in Asia, but it never made it out of the UK, so kind of irrelevant. (Remember first order, same seller, same address, made it just fine)

Asia is a very big place with all kinds of borders. If its a dodgy customs country they could steal it and send back this error, exactly the kind of shit that is pulled.

Note if your address is not in the native country your customs risk increases significantly.

It’s really not irrelevant that it’s Asia. From the very first moment you were taking a huge risk with an address like that. Even ordering anything from a reputable site / business internationally you can face a whole range of problems. Your dealing with multiple postal services. Exports, air freight procedures and then customs. I wouldn’t be dropping any large amount of money on here tbh.

Good question, if you're going to go public with this then more facts and less emotions, I would like to see a screen shot of the mail error, obviously with the specific id removed.

hahaha ! id like to see if it was you man!

Sure... wouldn’t want anyone to be calling me out as a liar.

Hey man. You're misreading the delivery information. Royal Mail only operate in the UK, so if a parcel is sent internationally, as soon as it arrives in another country the parcel is handed to that country's postal service. Royal Mail refer to these other postal services as 'delivery partners'. Therefore, it looks to me like your parcel did indeed leave the UK and arrive in your (or another) country.

It shows only the destinations it reached in the UK only, there was a longer info of bits. That’s what made me think otherwise. Plus everything just arrived at the nearest post office here, not sent to your door, you have to pick it up, so as long as phone number you’re sorted.

If what you’re saying is correct then I’ve made a complete tit it myself as as I’ve already stated, if it arrives in the country I wouldn’t be complaining. It didn’t show as having arrived in Destination country at all however.

Machineelf, now that I see the screen shot, you could be right ! When Royal Mail deliver to USA, it gets handed over to USPS. So depending on where Jam is located, the fault could well lie with the normal regular postal service of that country? However, Jam did say that many other deliveries got to them fine? It also could be that the parcels have been flagged by customs in the recipient country? Surely just ask Royal Mail and see how far they tracked the item before or IF it was handed over to the recipients country customs.

Royal mail have a website for international delivery partners were you can enter your reference number that might be worth checking if it did leave the uk, might be able to give you more information of what happen'd would leave the link here but lb wont let me.

exactly Laughing Grass, also Jam just needs to approach Royal Mail with tracking number, due to privacy I think Royal Mail will only talk to the recipient anyway, and not the sender. So there is nothing no one can do, unless Jam approaches RM to see where the fault lies first of all. And then and only then will we all know what happened, now that we are all involved lol

I’m not so sure I want to be getting that deep into the system trying to find a package that’s lost somewhere with what’s inside. I mainly complained because I felt hard done by with the sellers response and the parcel appearing not to leave the UK.

Maybe we should let a dead dog lie now haha!

Yeah that would be the best thing to do just to know for sure what's going on with it, this is what royal mail say on there site - Royal Mail works with trusted delivery partners to deliver your international mail. After your item has left the UK, you may find more detailed tracking information on our delivery partner’s website.
Choose a delivery partner below and enter your reference number on its website to find out more. seems like it might be worth a shot at least.

The seller could also check, because they have the tracking number ? So either Jam or RadarBreeder should do as you suggested, and just check the International Partners info. Ok that is it for me now lol, unless someone checks, then it is pointless all of us wasting our time here trying to help, when it could easily be resolved by both seller and buyer, who are the only ones that have the tracking number to imput into the online system.

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As I’ve explained, on the tracking website I can see a whole list... times and dates from moving around the UK to the point of preparing to leave. But then no update since and a return to sender.

I’m getting a bit paranoid about posting all of these pictures and information now, so won’t be posting anything else. Also for my own sake I don’t want to be phoning up RM trying to escalate a lost parcel considering the contents... my opinion and I’m sticking to it.

I feel a bit sorry for RB as well as I didn’t anticipate my little rant ending up being so drawn out, long and going on for days. So for that I do apologise to RB.

I’m going to leave it here now and I’m not going to respond to anymore comments, my point has been made and I think it’s time to move on and forget my loss.

Thanks for everyone’s help.

Peace out LB

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Have you checked the address on the UK postcode address service? Jamal ? Because maybe if this address was not EXACTLY the same as on the UK computers then it may have been rejected by COMPUTERS ! Put in the exact address you gave the seller and search, even one or two letters or numbers can cause a rejection. Please search online, and with Royal Mail UK.

If your address is EXACT as on the UK postal data bases, THEN it could be that the address was slightly wrong on the package, for instance a wrong letter on the postcode or a wrong number in the state code etc. This then would be human error on the packers part.

But first Jamal, maybe contact Royal Mail and see further why the rejection OR do as I suggest above and see who is to blame FIRST so that you know who to turn to so they can fix it. !

Hope this helps :)

Just a thought, recheck post code sometimes number zero can be confused with letter o therefore computer will not match it to correct postal address.

It’s international dude, so I’m pretty sure they won’t have an exact address on file. Had a quick look but seems to be UK only.

As I’ve said, two orders from LB, from two sellers, all arrived OK to the address given. Post and stuff from all over the world gets posted to that address with no problem in 3 years.

Thanks for the hints and tips though.

they dont have an exact address on UK files for your international address ? then that is maybe the problem ? I have trouble even with UK addresses not going to UK addresses just because I missed off the word 'flat' or the 'house name' etc. Computers run Royal Mail now, if it was hand checked, maybe a human would have looked up the international address themselves, and then manualy over rided the computer rejection. Maybe, who knows.

But here is the thing...where is the package NOW ? If it goes back to seller in one piece and in good order, then surely a refund would be applicable? If the package has been stolen or lost and never gets back to the seller...then what? and happy smoking to the thieves lol :)

I disagree, there is no way in hell RM has a list of all address in this country, even this country wouldn’t have a file for all address in this country haha! I’ve had parcels and packages arrive no problem for the last 3 years to the same address as explained. From all over the world. Legit and not so legit contents. The address I used is still visible on the order form on LB as I stupidly didn’t use PGP. So I can still confirm it’s correct.

I guess we will never know.

I doubt the seller used an accurate “return to sender address”... kind of setting yourself up for a problem there.

RB makes himself $170 and there’s a parcel of weed somewhere that didn’t even make it out the original country.

Anyway, there we go, I think everything has been explained multiple times now so I’ll leave it there.

Peace out LB’ers x

No idea, and already arrived from the same seller to the same address once before.

Having a similar issue at the minute with Radar, 2 orders missing. Hopefully we have a good resolution as I have had no complaints with service until now. I feel maybe Radar is too successful and is finding it tough to keep on top of things. Probably one of the most used vendors on site. Thinking I will move on tho once we resolve the current issues.

Fingers crossed for you too dude. I think that’s the last time for me also, communicating has always been tricky with RB too. I guess if it’s next day and domestic everything probably runs very smoothly and without hiccup.

Hi Jamal.

That’s strange that it said return to send if it never left the UK (how would they know the address was wrong in foreign lands)? I’ve ordered many times from RB (shipping into Europe) and some have taken time to arrive but I’ve never had any issues with RB deliveries. I had an issue with a busted vape cart and he did replace this for me so from my experience his customer service is very good.

No consolation for your financial loss but I’d definitely order in smaller amounts going forward (I do just because of the legal risk of getting caught with more than 3.5g - it’s a pain to order more frequently but it negates the legal risk and the financial risk if it does get lost). RB is very clear on his no reship for lost international orders - it’s a risk we all take I guess.

You can only put this down to experience I hope it has not put you off the amazing vendors on this site.

International shipping at $19 means I need to try and get the best price for my flower too, I think 14g is a relatively small amount for personal use and sure I wouldn’t get too much more than a slap on the wrist where I am. Thanks for the message though.

I wish that were the same here...more than 3.5g and you’re ‘dealing’!!! I hope you have better luck next time, it’s a sting that takes a while to get over :(

Hi Jamal.

RB is one of the best, my first vendor of choice, and I buy international as well, never had any problem.

Just wait a little bit longer and you will have a reply from him, going public is the best choice when your rep is low!

Everything will be fine :)

I asked what happens next and he has replied saying he doesn’t offer reship internationally, that’s my point. Has offered nothing and the parcel didn’t even leave the original country. So a complete loss to me. I wouldn’t be posting this information publicly if we had come to some amicable agreement. I appreciate you taking the time to reply and try to help though dude, thank you.

He shared the tracking code with you?

And by using the shared tracking code you saw that the parcel was sent back to him?

Correct, see the thread, I’ve posted a picture above dude. Can still view the address I gave which is correct also on the order form page. (Obviously won’t share that much info haha).

Maybe it’s just me but if I’m buying an illegal product, from an overseas seller, then I’m acutely aware that it comes with inherent risk. To then drop $170 on it the first time is pretty risky. I’d advise smaller orders till you find the sellers that work for you and/or order from the country you’re in.

The above is me speaking with no relation to the specific seller. However, I just woke up from one of the best sleeps of recent after a nice big spliff of Radar Breeder’s delightful Star Dawg. It was my first order from him and was received within 2 days of the order being placed. He does state all resends will be judged on an individual basis and I’ve only ever heard good things otherwise.

Try not to let the experience put you off LB, it’s a great site! Ultimately you’re the one to decide whether to go with RB again but I’d definitely recommend him within the UK.

It was my second order, same seller and same address.

As I’ve mentioned, I appreciate it comes with risk but the item never even made it out of the country. If it was signed in the country but never arrived to me, I wouldn’t be here claiming to be hard done by... I’d like to think I’m a realistic thinker here.

He does state it will be judged individually but apparently that means didly squat for me.

I’ve only tried one other seller ‘SayNo2Drugs’ who was excellent so far but look forward to trying more and hoping this was just a bad experience.

Certainly won’t be using RB again however I can see many people have received better service than I have.

Thanks for the message though.

Hi all
We offer no reship or guarantee on international orders this is made clear on any international orders.
Ok so as for too successful or busy no we are not sorry. Yes we are happy with our business but atm we are runnong at like 60% capacity with a lot if room to grow and our system keeps mistakes down to a minimum.
As for this case i can only say we input the address as we are given it. We have international tracked letter turn up in the wrong country before and the label was indeed correct as they have eventually landed.
We are always not happy to hear about any customers that are not happy and do what we can to make things right.
At tht moment we are considering stopping (or restricting to markets we have FE on) international and Scandinavian countries as it seems a lot of work and hassle and we risk getting bad feedback from customers that agree to our terms but then not happy when things don't go to plan.
Regards
RB

Hope still gonna send to me, recieved 5 orders to another country and 5 to uk without a problem and willing to take the risk :).

I think your service is disappointing dude and certainly won’t be using you again, just my opinion, as I said you’ve got plenty of happy domestic customers. I gave you the same address as last time but this item didn’t even leave the UK... that’s a real failed attempt! If it left the UK but never arrived I wouldn’t be bitching, we’re hardly ordering dog biscuits from amazon, we know how the game works right, there’s risk. It didn’t even leave the original country! I’m $170 short and you just lost a customer, but I doubt you really care dude. You say “you do what you can to make things right” but in this instance that would be you doing absolutely nothing. Peace out and good luck to your other customers.

RB is my goto vendor. Never been a loss or any problem after 8+ orders, including multiple special orders.
Why on earth you would order from the UK to Asia?
The UK is hardly the cheapest country to buy. Just handy for those of us that live here.
All in all a weak QQ

RB is great for the UK lot, one of the best we have, and he is a very helpful seller who will sort out any and all issues that may pop up. He is up front with his profile info .. and honest ... most importantly ! He states clearly on his profile regarding international orders. International orders are at the customers own risk.

I would not touch international shipping if I was a seller ! it's customs .. package goes through to many hands and eyes... Locals should order from locals, and sellers should be encouraged to import for their customers if there is particular strains that are in demand. The sellers get paid to take risks....and they have experience...buyers dont.

I understand, however, there are some buyers who can not source local to there own country, and in that case both buyer and seller have to take risks.

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