Completely untrue. Genetically there is only the cannabis sativa L and at a molecular level they are all the same. The terpenes dictate the physical differences, smell, taste etc. and differing effects are due to the huge variety of growing conditions, climate, soil etc. The indica/sativa classifications have been around so long we have all bought into them, which is fine ‘cos they work for us in their simplicity, but the science disagrees. It’s only relatively recently that this has been fully examined but there are now a tonne of fully peer reviewed science papers on the subject. Whether any of those scientists are also biggaz would be useful to know! ;)

^this

have been aware of this for years and out of the hundreds of heavy smokers i've met / smoked with, spent thousands of hours talking about cannabis but the placebo sativa / indica nonsense never comes up, i've met a couple novice smokers who got wrapped up in that pseudo science but quickly found they don't have a preference for either 'sativa' or 'indica'

not only do the terps play a large part in weeds overall effects but the way it's grown, what it's grown in, and specifically most important is how far into flower it was harvested and what stage the trichomes are at! this is where a plants effects will come from.

for the sake of this example lets say you have a pure 100% sativa, and you are growing 2 identical plants, same strain + genetics from the same breeder, in one tent under the same lights with the same soil and nutes, if you harvest them a few days apart from eachother you will have two completely different smokes in terms of their effects, nothing to do with them being a sativa.

wow my decades long experience is 100% validation of the sativa/indica difference. huge basic difference with energy i derive from them.

in my pursuits of staying high all the time my formula is basically sativa to get it going and indica to insure sleep to make it to another high day. but thats another story ;)

i suppose there's no harm in you enjoying a placebo effect mate if it makes you happy :)

unfortunately the science can't really be ignored on this one, there's more than enough papers published now for you to read, here's an example of many > https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5576603/

"I would strongly encourage the scientific community, the press, and the public to abandon the sativa/indica nomenclature and rather insist that accurate biochemical assays on cannabinoid and terpenoid profiles be available for Cannabis in both the medical and recreational markets. Scientific accuracy and the public health demand no less than this"

i hope eventually, even on a market like this, we can abandon the copy and paste strain information from google since it's so far removed from being relevant to the product we are buying it's actually laughable, what we need is more detailed information on the terpenes and what stage the plant was harvested, these are the key things that actually give the plant it's effects!

If you are growing correctly and checking with a microscope, you should be getting the perfect mix of what the strain has to offer.
You will find most buds are not grown to perfection and chopped at week 8 not week 9.5 or 10.

this is exactly what it's all about, and this is what the science on this subject confirms too! it has absolutely nothing to do with this outdated hipster language of 'indica & sativa'!
it's all down to the genetics, terps, growing conditions and particularly important is what stage the trichomes were at during harvest!
the science is out there for anyone to read and it's far more difinitive than anecdotal comments on here from ignorant stoners who 'derive energy from plants' lol

Seems this guy's point is that the terms are not scientifically accurate given the interbreeding. He also thinks people are basing this on leaf shape - what's this about?

it's one example of many articles and papers on this topic!

and it is true that a vast amount of people determine a 'sativa' and 'indica' by it's plant strucutre and the leaf shape falls into that, which is of course nonsense but there's a huge amount of people using this criteria unfortunately!

Very on point hesh

Well science isn't based on talking to stoners... if it was you'd be Albert Einstein... do you have any scientific qualifications? "Placebo" "pseudo science"... you can categorise by terps, but then terps are linked to the effects, and the effects are often linked to where the plant originally thrived for thousands (millions?) Of years... it's potato potat0

I was shocked when people told me the test to whether a plant is sativa or Indica is simply someone smoking it and then determining what he/she feels like. I thought its a lot more complicated haha

lol it just sums it up really how outdated the language on this topic is, also dipensaries are starting to move away from the terms 'indica & sativa' since they have been shown to be nothing more than marketing language!
eventually the industry will move away from those terms entirely as the science progresses and it will become far easier to find strains that suit your needs!
also i noticed you've never mentioned once on any of the items on your menu if they are sativa or indica or hybrid, assuming it's because you know it's nonsense :)

i don’t know about you but from the 1st time i ever smoked (thanks uncle gary) to a couple of years ago i didn’t even know the difference between indica and sativa.

hungry one time paranoid the next i just thought the beloved plant had range.

The proof is in the pudding, there are so many overbred hybrid strains around now it is hard to tell. Only a true indica or sativa you can notice the difference

what happens if you smoke a pure indica and a pure sativa mixed in one joint?, does that mean you will 'charge your mind and body with revelatory energy' whilst being 'very likely to make you lazy in mind and body'

Most modern strain on the market today, have been breed to be hybrids, hence the ratio indicators giving you a desired mix, and in turn desired effects. That is the beauty, of mixing strains, to create new and exciting, rolls of the dice.

Quite far from some strain's landrace origins, but certains strains can still be pure , for example:

100% Indica Northern Light.
100% Sativa Durban Poison.

Mixing the two would have a similar effect, to smoking a 50/50 hybrid, in theory. I better grow them both this Year, to find out.

I thought an indica is classed as such when it contains 5% or more of the terpene myrcene which has sedative effects due to the entourage effect with THC. It’s also why people say eating mangos whilst consuming cannabis makes you higher as myrcene is present in them.

Thanks for the mango advice! 🥭 aren't there quite distinguishable plant structures for sativa and indica landrace ? Ofc the terps and grow conditions are irrelevant, and every person's biology is different... but to say that a pure indica isn't going give more sedative effects and pure sativa isn't towards the energising side seems a bit disingenuous... in medical cannabis the terps are stated on the packs... indica/sativa/hybrid categories aren't absolute, but the simplest way to classify... to poo poo this as hippy dippy nonsense seems a lil pretentious...

That was my understanding indica was from India hence the name and sativa from Asia as for the high I always put the effects downt to the strain rather than the indica sativa and don’t think there’s any true sativa or indica on the commercial market there all hybrids nowadays even ones that claim to be 100%one or the other u just wouldn’t get the thc content from it that people are now accustomed too

Evolutionary age: Botanical evidence and genetic testing suggest the genus Cannabis originated 20 to 28 million years ago in Central or East Asia. The specific Cannabis sativa species diverged from Cannabis indica roughly 1 million years ago (according to google) interesting...

True, most stuff is hybrid these, but the og landrace strains are 'pure' sativa or indica... you can Try them out here... most cali strains are a mix of African sativa (cookies, durban, power plant, and the chill and sedative effects from indica hindu kush... of course pure indica still gets you 'high' and a sativa can still knock you out eventually

They've grown separately across the world with different adaptions to environments...

species in general reckon

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