100% agree my dude, if vendors are trying to be reputable then this would be a great way of showing trust and respect. At the end of the day we're the ones giving out our addresses to random people over the internet so we would like a bit of recognition. I get the feeling that some vendors lie about the date they send the goods, probably because they haven't enough stock in to fulfil the order in a timely manner. Honesty is the best policy in these situations

In a short while I've seen a marked difference between vendors that ship and communicate diligently (like THEPROVIDER and ukpacks) and the ones that couldn't care if they don't post the odd package. I mean, c'mon... statistically it is too unlikely that one vendor would have so much higher a rate of parcel loss and delay and the evidence points to pocketing the occasional profit instead of sending. Why else would a vendor (1) not offer tracked shipping and (2) advise people wait 16 days (which is I believe the amount of time it takes funds to clear...) before starting to ask questions. I'm not trying to be a dick (am I? sorry biggas) but waiting for my package is tearing me up inside.

I fully agree with you, let's take for example RB, he just asks to wait 48h before asking for the tracking code.

Exactly, from a different pov customers are more exposed than vendors.

Codswallop, we get a slap on the wrist and a don't it again warning.

That's not what a vendor gets

Where exactly is the added risk in sharing the code? I have yet to see 1 answer to this question.

Any agent interested in a seller just has to order to see their stealth, tracking codes or whatever else a buyer has existentially.

It's one of these arguments where it's down to what people feel not about proof. Some vendors feel comfortable sharing the codes some don't.

A potential solutions would be a flair in the postal section the vendor could activate to show they share codes or something (or they could just write it somewhere that they do)

Arguing about what's the right way is like arguing all vendors should offer a tracked option, it's a risk that some vendors don't want to take and some do but can't find a suitable opsec way to do it (I guess) .

Take it easy 😄

This is true, but I want to add that since babylon focuses on vendors they are more at risk of being... normalised.

From my viewpoint babylon is still mainly concerned with the end-user. Because we are not protected by anyone/thing except our wits and money. So theres almost no risk in getting to most of us. And I think big percentage of vendors have protection like you and me can only dream of. Nevermind the funds they have available...

In what way are you at risk?

Just buy from the organised criminals you prefer who can afford to pay (hopefully) or coerce someone to go to the post office, rather than insist weed growers take bigger risks on your behalf.

Look, I have expressed more than one time my point of view, and the LOGIC behind it.

Looks like some of you are not able to see further than their nose, so I'll stop replying the same thing over and over.

You can't afford to share the tracking number? Then don't sell on the internet, simple.

You asked for opinions.
I get the point you make and I can see why you think it logical when you ignore all the counter views.

If it were tracked only, LB would be gone in a week, simple.

When sites like this get compromised, they don't get closed down, they just look and apparently work like they always did, except not.

Am I being unable to express myself correctly in English?

If such an operation will take place, not sharing the tracking code is not going to save any vendor...

Please, follow the simple logic behind:

I'm vendor A, I don't share the tracking code for security reasons. (maybe a cop could see it online and track me down? Highly unlikely to happen, the only way is the one which has happen in the article you shared, in that case sharing or no sharing the tracking code is our last problem).

I'm customer B:
I want to get the tracking code because I want to know when my order will land, so I can be home or just know when I have to go to the post office to get it.

I'm officer C:
We are having a small operation, the website security is relatively good so it's not worth investing a lot of money to be able to hijack it, but instead, the operation is to be a customer.

Today I buy from vendor A, he is not sharing the tracking code, feeling that doing this is the smart move... Alright, I'll then just wait a couple of days until I'll receive the parcel and I can see the tracking code written in plain eyesight on the parcel, then let's repet this 100 times until we can narrow down the area from which they are operating.


I really hope this example is gonna make more sense to all of you who heavily protect the "not sharing the tracking is more safe" policy.

Example A is the reason I hold the opinion I shared, at your request.

You've been clear that you think it's a silly / small risk vendors should take for you, some agree, I wouldn't. Maybe I've heard too much DarkNet Diaries.

Thankfully, there are sellers to suit all of us, and we can all just get high and get along. Cheers.

Logic matters🌝

Hi guys just thought we would share our point of view, for international orders we share all tracking numbers sometimes this can that up to one day to share as we aren't online when doing our rounds but we do believe as international orders can have such a varied timeframe depending on the destination that the customer needs to know how close to arriving it is, saying this we don't feel its necessary to share tracking for NDD UK to UK as we simply wouldn't have enough time in the day to match tracking numbers to orders,
If their are any issues with UK orders and they aren't delivered within the NDD timeframe then obviously we share tracking number but so far this had only occurred once and it was a issue on RM's side. We don't know how other vendors usually operate but we haven't heard any complaints from our customers so far :)

Good answer and im glad youre records arent so tied to each other :)

my bigga.

we need a list of vendors that share the tracking code vs not. sayno2drugs does for one and they are the most experienced seller on this site.

That's a great idea, I know RadarBreeder and TheGreenTeam do share tracking codes (and both are great vendors)

Yep, I agree. Im new tho so I understand if vendors are careful. On my 2nd order here I had to wait for almost a month and eventually was re-funded by transaxe, which was very frustrating. This could be avoided if tracking numbers are the standard. Because I think this gives scammers an opening. Why would they have to send you the order if they dont have to show proof of sending. And if guys like hootan and hashishin do it, why wouldnt everybody do it? Maybe cause it costs more eh? And there are more reasons why I think it should be the standard.
Btw. I order stuff from UK on ebay all the time and I can tell you that packages with high priority, air mail and tracked, go through 3 times faster. In this case Matcha powder. I made 2 orders, 3 weeks apart, with same value from 2 shops, and first went through customs and I had to pay extra when it got delivered after almost a month! The other one went through without any extra cost and in 8 days!
I think that some sellers say that they will use postage that costs 15$ and then they use 5$ postage without admitting it to the buyer. And some sellers are probly just stupid and they cite the highest possible value on the declaration.
I can also tell you that I get stuff thats a bit more dangerous in my post, from NL. And I see how pros are doing it. Everything is nicely printed and declared as a sample or a gift, and if you pay for tracking you get it. They always have return adress.
I guess it largely depends on how smug and sure and well connected a seller is with his postal agent. Btw, dhl also can be used for heavy illegal stuff but that is rare in my experience.

I agree with you, I don't understand why almost any parcel sent from vendors on LB takes so long to land (even if are tracked).

Yeah, if the package is posted with low priority it will be extremely slow. If I order from anywhere in Europe area (even from Russia) and its set as high priority I get it in 10 days max. And if its low then its 2-4 weeks. Forgot to mention Im south EU.

And almost all vendors charge 15-18 usd for tracked delivery, such a shame...

Idk, maybe some of these vendors just arent savvy enough to discover the best way to ship

If some law enforcement has gained access to LB (and by access I mean as an administrator) getting the tracking code would be the last thing to worry about...

I appreciate you for taking the time to share your opinion on this, but, I think that sharing the tracking code does not create a breach in the security for the vendors.

The tracking code is visible on the parcel itself. Would be so hard for law enforcement to create a 1-2 years operation to order from vendors just to receive the parcel with the tracking code and try to locate them based on that information?

That's what I mean by saying that by not sharing the tracking number you are building a little more layer of security... No, you are not! It is just an illusion.

And that's the key point, your thinking. Other people may have a different way of thinking.

Personally I have no issues with vendors not handing out tracking codes as I "think" the risk to them is far greater than it is to the end user. However not every vendor agrees with me and the likes of TGD send you a tracking number once shipped.

I suggest messaging any new vendor beforehand to ask if they provide it up front and if not sticking to the vendors who do

all the data here is encrypted

Lots of sellers subscribe to security policies handed down from the early darknet, which had an emphasis on big wholesale orders.

I think one fear is that the customer is under surveillance and and that this information should be handled on a "need to know" basis. Thus the delay in handing out unless the package is missing.

How much sense this makes for personal amounts is another question, it would be nice to hear a seller speak on this directly.

I bought from a seller who could not provide tracking because he sent my parcel from UK to US here without a tracking number.

I guess this is overprotection by a vendor who wants to remain as anonymous as possible.

Yes that’s exactly what I’d do if I was selling contraband, let them know almost a pinpoint location, honestly you people amaze me, everyone gives out tracking codes there is no LB, be patient wait for you weed be happy, tracking illegal deliveries, super smart.

Buying illegal stuff on the internet, super smart...

Please, at least read carefully what I've wrote in the main topic and learn that 2+2 = 4.

Add PGP public keys as part of one's profile and we're golden.

Just saw we do have PGP keys on the settings page!

We will provide tacking numbers with any order at our customers request or automatically if we notice RM have failed to deliver next day which in our experience can sometimes happen with RM 😊

Hi. I'm bizzarley locked out of my account. Saying my username and password aren't recognised even though they are all correct? I've made this new account but could you be able to get back my original account with my stats etc? Username - Bobby19841

Thanks!

contact the borgs. They are the entities who can clear up problems like yours.

You should contact an admin from LB

Er...ok, clearly confused over terminology! I have my hookah pipe, I have my shisha double apple fruit tobacco, then when prepping the bowl I add very thinly rolled hash ‘sausages’ to the top. I was asking on recs for the best hash for the purpose (“brown” as opposed to “green”) and lb seller?

Depends on the type of hash you are after. Hashishin is very good for more natural flavoured land race hash types. Personally I enjoy it but it is a lighter/less thc laden type of hash. For your harder hitting hashes I would try some of uk420s drysifts.both of them have a good range to choose from and their descriptions are very accurate regarding texture(some hashes can be more crumblier than squidgy). Hope this helps

Very helpful, thanks buddy!

Would be the smartest thing they could do, what they fuck are they doing otherwise - besides providing testimony to inequality?

accent calibration?

Seriously the brand value would go up billions

England outlawed slavery in the 19th century and actively fought and stopped those that were in the business of slavery.

Back in the day it wasn't like there was one country enslaving another, it was a world wide business and England stood up to the world to stop it. England has already had it's anti-slavery moment, it took place over a hundred years ago and since then we have been against it.

There were African tribes capturing and selling people to slavers, do you want them to pay as well, and who do you want them to pay?

The Chinese and Persians also took slaves from Africa, they castrated them.

Pulling down statues and washing over history is going to do more to help people to forget that it ever happened, we should leave the statues up and educate people so that we know to never ever let it happen again.

Taking away someone's freedom without reason and trading in people's misery is about as bad as it gets and I repeat, we should never let it happen again. Pulling down statues is another step in the direction of helping people forget that it ever happened and if we can't learn from the past then we are in danger of repeating it.

regardless the royals personally owned slaves and here they still are able to pay up for it.

Last comment on this subject from me;) humans are almost clones of each other. For example to apes are always more genetically different than any two humans and they basically do the same in life due to most being born in to similar situations. So it’s very easy to judge people for their mistakes, when if born in the same situation, we may do very similar things. It’s very easy to say how wrong things were and are from the we have everything we need perspective that we look from nowadays in developed countries anyway. Using others for your own gain is wrong imo but if you were born into the Royal family, ask yourself, how vocal about reparations would you be? Peace

I'd be vocal, at least it would be an alternative to the monotoous life of bullshit I'd otherwise be living.

story of the Buddha starts right there

I'll have a bit, probably give it to charity but the thought would mean a lot.

bigg up

The royals don’t have bank accounts or given any cash so how it would be the firm who are the slave masters of the royals watch Harry’s speech about it they are only allowed direct material items i suppose they can hand out their TVs and shirts off their backs? Do your research.

Nice idea though. If anything it should be the government but then it’s been so long now it’s like getting paid for someone running over your dog it’s not really the same as it never happening in the first place but smart fascism and racism is bigger than ever. And it always stems from the top down never the other way around.

in short their finances are
assets: around 1 billion
income from property: 20 million pounds every year
income from each of our pockets: 80 million pounds every year

reckon they can afford something here and still live it up like they like to.

if they embraced it that would be something

slavery was always wrong, it was cheap and easy and the other guy was doing it but anyone with a conscience is hard wired to know stealing people in chains and imprisoning them for life isnt ok.

Slavery still exists , it’s just changed name to employee. If you are working, it’s for shareholders benefit,

The means of exchange for employment is money. The means of exchange for slavery is the threat of violence. Most humans can see a big difference in this.

uh yeah i think its a little different if you're getting paid for your work and have a choice of employers. different than being kidnapped or bred into a life of hard labour.

this, what we are forced to live, is not slavery as on a cotton plantation, but it still is slavery. best proof is the "distribution of wealth". its just a different kind of slavery. where we are our own slave-drivers haha. it is essentially feudalism and it is becoming digital more and more.

feudalism is very different to slavery, some of our ancestors had the pluck to get out of it and become tradesmen, artisans, even adventurers. today a lot of people are born into fucked circumstance but many more have education and at least a shot.

a slaves life (if they made the journey which murdered a majority of them) was *nothing* like this.

literally no, but conceptually yes. at least to my mind

I won’t write a response because it would take a lot of writing for you to see the similarities. Just ask yourself though. How much of your life is for you? Why did you get sent to school? Can you roam about freely? How many of us are stuck in a job , just so we can pay the bills? Who is benefiting from your consumption? Are you doing what you want to be doing or are you enriching someone else’s life by working hard? What does that sound like? Peace;)

it sounds nothing like moral equivalence, not by orders of magnitude. it also sounds like a response, just a very weak one.

Well I hope you eventually find some level of peace and a way to deal with the reality of life now and our shared history for your future sanity;) take care

and a weaker gas light attempt, like a match next to a small fart.

Not really. I mean it , truly. Why haven’t I downvoted a single post of yours? Because I feel for your tormented minds

All life is suffering. So make it meaningful :)

Now your talking. Agreed;)

"It wasn’t wrong then though." Cue modern day comparison. You are so uninformed it's actually a bit sad but more proper cringe tbh.

Yes I am the sad one. I’m not the one whining about how wealthy others have been 100’s and thousands of years ago by following the laws of their time. Whining about others is just a deflection from your own faults;) try thinking about what you can do now to make the world a better place, not whining about history. Also now the black people who are descendants of slaves don’t seem to want to go back to live in the country of their genetic heritage, right? I wonder why;)

Who's been whining? Me (no) or some other or every single Black person? And why on earth would some random U.S/U.K Black dude "want to go back to live in the country of their genetic heritage". What planet are you living in? A very white one, I imagine.

Only because my grandparents had to flee out of their country due to they would of been killed . Also stripped of their lands / money and I am not asking for reparations from anyone. Just saying

fair enough and i would probably feel the same from that perspective but what you are missing is the punitive damages aspect of the liability.

at a time when the world is turning more separatist and fascist it's especially valuable to know that shit like that is held accountable for ever.

Right. And so do you want to "go back to live in the country of YOUR genetic heritage"? Or do you think that question doesn't apply bc you're White? I think that's the road you're going down here, isn't it? Assuming it's WWII, there's really no Nazi's left for you to claim reparations from, is there? If your Grandparents are from the middle east, then reparations are for the regime of that time and place whether current or not. BTW I think any Black person claiming reparations is an attention seeking fool, usually found on the end of a megaphone dictating the new world order to a bunch of (majority) white middle class uni students basically out on a day-trip with banners like "white privilege is real" and "eggs are a chickens period!".

You can see through the bullshit w/o being bias. Just saying

how the fuck is white privilege not real?

Straight out the gate. Chill, Raj, or your banner with all its bullet points of what White Privilege is may get damaged. Simply put, because I'm White, have grown up with Black friends with more advantages and privileges than me. I've lived in council estates all over the UK, some of which I'm the minority. The only ppl that seem to scream white privilege are Americans and UK white middle-upper class angry women, who are without a shadow of a doubt; PRIVILEGED. Same colour as me, but worlds apart. It's that simple. Don't try and tell me I've had more advantages and not used them, w/o knowing the first thing about me - just that I'm white and therefore privileged? Is that the sum of the profiling, Raj?

you just said white privilege is real in other classes.

don't doubt you get a pass when class distinctions are bigger than race.

Wow! This reply is literally from weeks ago, and you think I wrote what now? Raj you are so off course, it's like some Jake Paul 4+4=5 conclusion. You've reached new levels of dumb digging for the ever elusive reasons you're not smart enough to be a dentist. Honestly I think it's kinds cool. You should get a podcast and enlighten all your friends. Ciao4now, bud.

" just that I'm white and therefore privileged? Is that the sum of the profiling"

Yes. That's what white privilege means.

We don't need to know anything about you, all other things being equal, you're better off than your black neighbour.

"We don't need to know anything about you". Who is "we" on this occasion? Just so I'm on the same page..

'We' in this context means everyone who isn't 'you'.

Well there's some irony spelled out and still not clicking. Figures. Lovely bit of sanctimony btw, PieBoi. Props.

Sanctimony? Irony?

I'm not making a judgement, I'm explaining what's meant by the term.

White Privilege does not mean the least privileged white person is still better off than every black person, which is what you're railing against.

It means wherever you are and whatever you're doing, a black person in the same position has fewer opportunities than a white person.

A white doctor gets paid more than a black one.

A white police officer has more opportunities for promotion than a black one. That kind of thing.

"I'm not making a judgement". It's the only thing you have done.

"It means wherever you are and whatever you're doing, a black person in the same position has fewer opportunities than a white person."

You sound like the kind of person that really over emphasises the "awwww THANK YOU" whenever you buy anything from a bus ticket to a house off anyone Black.

Your quote is pretty much the banner I mentioned above (when everything you've described is pay disparities within 2 industries that by-and-large have Black top-dogs, just like Obama). Look I'm bored of this I feel like you look like a really angry Velma Dinkley at this point no offence. Bye.

Haha I’ve been called a lot of things in my life, but never that.

You misunderstood me, I hate this moderation of language as much as you do.
I’d much rather racists are allowed to be as clear as you are, then we all know where we stand.

Peace be upon you.

"I’d much rather racists/then we know where we stand". I hope you're not including me in that. I'm currently the only white dude in a house of 5 so that's me homeless. But I know my views are of my own. I have a Chinese boss and White people wince when I do a perfect impression of him. That's me. No malice or hate. You raised some valid points and I'm digging my heels in. Props for taking the digs on the chin. Peace.

Big of you man.
Sorry if my last one was a bit hot.

Big up.

It's about being honest and checking yourself. I would like to add my thoughts on UK (not US!) white privilege are pretty much summed up here by Kemi Badenoch. It used to be called a "pond" (Atlantic), but since social media breaking borders it hardly feels that anymore. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vf7yX9ESRc

Make this guy a politician please

really wish this guy could crusade a little cooler. i think he's right about the cali but he's a cunt.

I have had a few non packs of Cali from vendors and the one jungles boys pack from TGD. The jungles boy pack not only verified using the scratch off code thing but in the thirty years I have been smoking it was the nicest tasting bud I have ever come across. It didn't have a passport or speak while I had it but it certainly was of a quality I have never came me across in my years. What is interesting about MrCaa is he only crusaded against TGD and not any other sellers with Cali, hell not even the other seller selling the exact same thing. It's the fact they have targeted TGD solely that make me think they should be terminated

He loves Cali, buys 6 packs of JungleBoys at a time apparently, just trying to goad this vendor for some reason.

Supported!

Supported. Terrible baseless attacks on the innocent including women. Has to go !!

Supported

Supported, good riddance to bad rubbish. Don’t need arseholes here. I’ve noticed a few creeping in over the last couple of years. Fuck them and the horses they rode in on.
Individuals like this are a disease, give them an inch and they’ll ruin everything.

can you link to some of the posts please i cant see anything form his page

https://littlebiggy.org/viewSubject/v/4780534?gotoPost=Y6e0U4Jwq

There are a few here, I can provide one more at a minimum and probably another couple if I went looking.

Oh and then the thread he made below to get them terminated

You have (or rather ‘had’) a wide range of instantly well received strains so I’m sure there will be interest. Some other vendors have started offering bonuses for repeat customers as a straightforward loyalty scheme (10th order gets a free 1/8th type of thing. Nice).
For me it’s about keeping it simple- if you have consistently good product at a fair price delivered quickly with comms and stealth you really shouldn’t need to do much else.
Why add complexity and cost to your business if you are already doing it right? The most appreciated thing you could probably do is occasionally to add a sampler of a different/new strain to the order of a good customer as a thank you/bonus. They will tell everybody!

The point of it would be more than just a few free samples here and there ( we already reward loyalty and don’t brag about it) and we would ALWAYS have stock for our ‘members’ if they existed.... it wouldn’t add complexity if done right that’s why memberships exist in all businesses? It would reward the most loyal and the most loyal would 100% know that they would ALWAYS have access to our product and we’d never ‘run’ out of product for members etc

No offence guys but it seems an awful lot to take on for a seller that went out of stock within weeks of joining (despite saying that wouldn’t happen)and currently has no listings at all!
I was one of your disappointed would-be customers (still am!) and that would have been a whole lot more than disappointment if I had paid fees in advance.
We are all already Members of the LittleBiggy community. Rather than creating sub-memberships let’s see some stock! ;)
Looking forward to it!

Side note pollypuff, we had lots of product left after you commented about it ....you just didn’t buy anything???

I order at weekends for lower fees and by then everything had gone- but that’s great for you guys, seriously, I wait I lose my bad!
It just seems odd to be talking about membership fees, incentives and supply guarantees when you have nothing on your board?

Like we said just wanted to see what views there were on a membership scheme .... just throwing a ‘topic’ out there for discussion, we haven’t implemented anything!

Totally agree with all of this PollyPuf20!

I would sign up

I'd love to be a member, especially if you can have your lovely green reserved. Not sure what or how it would work. Certainly interested,

Second this.
If its never gonna run out suddenly due to popularity, like recent stock then a membership would be well worth that. Any other discounts or perks are just icing on the cake.

Exactly, you get it ;)

I like the idea of having first dibs on your weed, let me know when you have a plan

Hi mate, you know me, i would be first to sign up.
hope to hear from you guys very soon.
G

Yes G, we got you as always . Much love

I think it sounds like a great idea! I would definitely be interested!

Looks interesting. You have been amazing so.far. why not? Giving the quality of your stuff I would sign up for this.

Love the fact I got maltesers without a membership, I'm game to hear some brainstorming for this.

Did you get the gold pack though haha ??
We want the brainstorming too that was point

For the right vendor it will work and I would def been interested.

Green shield stamps?

Tres Bon stamps ;)

I would be much happy to join :)
Hit me up buddy, I can see you numbers doesn’t lies :) looking forward to try the delicatessen ;)

We got clubcards yet? :D