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The Royals Should Pay Slavery Reparations
Who to?
The Royals Should Pay Slavery Reparations
Who among us today:
- stands on the most wealth compounded from past sins?
- are the clearest descendants of those responsible?
- can most afford it?
If there is any credible role for these living vestiges of the past it is to account for it.
- stands on the most wealth compounded from past sins?
- are the clearest descendants of those responsible?
- can most afford it?
If there is any credible role for these living vestiges of the past it is to account for it.
England outlawed slavery in the 19th century and actively fought and stopped those that were in the business of slavery.
Back in the day it wasn't like there was one country enslaving another, it was a world wide business and England stood up to the world to stop it. England has already had it's anti-slavery moment, it took place over a hundred years ago and since then we have been against it.
There were African tribes capturing and selling people to slavers, do you want them to pay as well, and who do you want them to pay?
The Chinese and Persians also took slaves from Africa, they castrated them.
Pulling down statues and washing over history is going to do more to help people to forget that it ever happened, we should leave the statues up and educate people so that we know to never ever let it happen again.
Taking away someone's freedom without reason and trading in people's misery is about as bad as it gets and I repeat, we should never let it happen again. Pulling down statues is another step in the direction of helping people forget that it ever happened and if we can't learn from the past then we are in danger of repeating it.
Back in the day it wasn't like there was one country enslaving another, it was a world wide business and England stood up to the world to stop it. England has already had it's anti-slavery moment, it took place over a hundred years ago and since then we have been against it.
There were African tribes capturing and selling people to slavers, do you want them to pay as well, and who do you want them to pay?
The Chinese and Persians also took slaves from Africa, they castrated them.
Pulling down statues and washing over history is going to do more to help people to forget that it ever happened, we should leave the statues up and educate people so that we know to never ever let it happen again.
Taking away someone's freedom without reason and trading in people's misery is about as bad as it gets and I repeat, we should never let it happen again. Pulling down statues is another step in the direction of helping people forget that it ever happened and if we can't learn from the past then we are in danger of repeating it.
regardless the royals personally owned slaves and here they still are able to pay up for it.
Hindsight is twenty twenty, as they say. It is, however, useless when we are aimlessly stumbling through the present moment to survive. I liken the experience to growing older and maturing. If we were to atone for every sin we accumulated through childhood, we'd mostly ALL be skint, black, white, yellow, brown, or rainbow-coloured. If you are always looking back over your shoulder, you'll never look forward.
The royals don’t have bank accounts or given any cash so how it would be the firm who are the slave masters of the royals watch Harry’s speech about it they are only allowed direct material items i suppose they can hand out their TVs and shirts off their backs? Do your research.
Nice idea though. If anything it should be the government but then it’s been so long now it’s like getting paid for someone running over your dog it’s not really the same as it never happening in the first place but smart fascism and racism is bigger than ever. And it always stems from the top down never the other way around.
Nice idea though. If anything it should be the government but then it’s been so long now it’s like getting paid for someone running over your dog it’s not really the same as it never happening in the first place but smart fascism and racism is bigger than ever. And it always stems from the top down never the other way around.
in short their finances are
assets: around 1 billion
income from property: 20 million pounds every year
income from each of our pockets: 80 million pounds every year
reckon they can afford something here and still live it up like they like to.
assets: around 1 billion
income from property: 20 million pounds every year
income from each of our pockets: 80 million pounds every year
reckon they can afford something here and still live it up like they like to.
Last comment on this subject from me;) humans are almost clones of each other. For example to apes are always more genetically different than any two humans and they basically do the same in life due to most being born in to similar situations. So it’s very easy to judge people for their mistakes, when if born in the same situation, we may do very similar things. It’s very easy to say how wrong things were and are from the we have everything we need perspective that we look from nowadays in developed countries anyway. Using others for your own gain is wrong imo but if you were born into the Royal family, ask yourself, how vocal about reparations would you be? Peace
I'd be vocal, at least it would be an alternative to the monotoous life of bullshit I'd otherwise be living.
and what about the 1.5 million white slaves taken from europe by africans? dont they count?
or was reading real history too complicated for you? clown.
we abolished slavery while african chiefs were putting cages full of slaves on the beaches waiting for profit.
over 2000 british servicement died fighhting slavers while it was still legal in every other country on earth.
more blacks owned slaves than whites did...and over 90% of slaves in africa died before they reached sdale.
but dont let the truth effect your ill informed media driven propaganda.
or was reading real history too complicated for you? clown.
we abolished slavery while african chiefs were putting cages full of slaves on the beaches waiting for profit.
over 2000 british servicement died fighhting slavers while it was still legal in every other country on earth.
more blacks owned slaves than whites did...and over 90% of slaves in africa died before they reached sdale.
but dont let the truth effect your ill informed media driven propaganda.
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It wasn’t wrong then though. Say for example your family got wealthy through shares and that got made illegal in the future. Would you say “oh I can’t believe how immoral my family were” and donate all their money to charity and have em out on the street?
Should Italy pay France for using their land for 300 years and killing half the country back in Roman times? Remember you only have the right to be how you are now because your ancestors killing the previous inhabitants and took their land. Are you looking to make reparations to their ancestors?
What I think is the royals should stop getting money from the people. They are basically bums with the best universal credit deal ever!
Should Italy pay France for using their land for 300 years and killing half the country back in Roman times? Remember you only have the right to be how you are now because your ancestors killing the previous inhabitants and took their land. Are you looking to make reparations to their ancestors?
What I think is the royals should stop getting money from the people. They are basically bums with the best universal credit deal ever!
slavery was always wrong, it was cheap and easy and the other guy was doing it but anyone with a conscience is hard wired to know stealing people in chains and imprisoning them for life isnt ok.
Slavery still exists , it’s just changed name to employee. If you are working, it’s for shareholders benefit,
The means of exchange for employment is money. The means of exchange for slavery is the threat of violence. Most humans can see a big difference in this.
uh yeah i think its a little different if you're getting paid for your work and have a choice of employers. different than being kidnapped or bred into a life of hard labour.
this, what we are forced to live, is not slavery as on a cotton plantation, but it still is slavery. best proof is the "distribution of wealth". its just a different kind of slavery. where we are our own slave-drivers haha. it is essentially feudalism and it is becoming digital more and more.
feudalism is very different to slavery, some of our ancestors had the pluck to get out of it and become tradesmen, artisans, even adventurers. today a lot of people are born into fucked circumstance but many more have education and at least a shot.
a slaves life (if they made the journey which murdered a majority of them) was *nothing* like this.
a slaves life (if they made the journey which murdered a majority of them) was *nothing* like this.
I won’t write a response because it would take a lot of writing for you to see the similarities. Just ask yourself though. How much of your life is for you? Why did you get sent to school? Can you roam about freely? How many of us are stuck in a job , just so we can pay the bills? Who is benefiting from your consumption? Are you doing what you want to be doing or are you enriching someone else’s life by working hard? What does that sound like? Peace;)
it sounds nothing like moral equivalence, not by orders of magnitude. it also sounds like a response, just a very weak one.
Well I hope you eventually find some level of peace and a way to deal with the reality of life now and our shared history for your future sanity;) take care
Not really. I mean it , truly. Why haven’t I downvoted a single post of yours? Because I feel for your tormented minds
Tribal elders fought and captured other tribe members and sold them to Europeans its still practiced today so go point the finger straight back and ask them
"It wasn’t wrong then though." Cue modern day comparison. You are so uninformed it's actually a bit sad but more proper cringe tbh.
Yes I am the sad one. I’m not the one whining about how wealthy others have been 100’s and thousands of years ago by following the laws of their time. Whining about others is just a deflection from your own faults;) try thinking about what you can do now to make the world a better place, not whining about history. Also now the black people who are descendants of slaves don’t seem to want to go back to live in the country of their genetic heritage, right? I wonder why;)
Who's been whining? Me (no) or some other or every single Black person? And why on earth would some random U.S/U.K Black dude "want to go back to live in the country of their genetic heritage". What planet are you living in? A very white one, I imagine.
Only because my grandparents had to flee out of their country due to they would of been killed . Also stripped of their lands / money and I am not asking for reparations from anyone. Just saying
fair enough and i would probably feel the same from that perspective but what you are missing is the punitive damages aspect of the liability.
at a time when the world is turning more separatist and fascist it's especially valuable to know that shit like that is held accountable for ever.
at a time when the world is turning more separatist and fascist it's especially valuable to know that shit like that is held accountable for ever.
Right. And so do you want to "go back to live in the country of YOUR genetic heritage"? Or do you think that question doesn't apply bc you're White? I think that's the road you're going down here, isn't it? Assuming it's WWII, there's really no Nazi's left for you to claim reparations from, is there? If your Grandparents are from the middle east, then reparations are for the regime of that time and place whether current or not. BTW I think any Black person claiming reparations is an attention seeking fool, usually found on the end of a megaphone dictating the new world order to a bunch of (majority) white middle class uni students basically out on a day-trip with banners like "white privilege is real" and "eggs are a chickens period!".
You can see through the bullshit w/o being bias. Just saying
You can see through the bullshit w/o being bias. Just saying
Straight out the gate. Chill, Raj, or your banner with all its bullet points of what White Privilege is may get damaged. Simply put, because I'm White, have grown up with Black friends with more advantages and privileges than me. I've lived in council estates all over the UK, some of which I'm the minority. The only ppl that seem to scream white privilege are Americans and UK white middle-upper class angry women, who are without a shadow of a doubt; PRIVILEGED. Same colour as me, but worlds apart. It's that simple. Don't try and tell me I've had more advantages and not used them, w/o knowing the first thing about me - just that I'm white and therefore privileged? Is that the sum of the profiling, Raj?
" just that I'm white and therefore privileged? Is that the sum of the profiling"
Yes. That's what white privilege means.
We don't need to know anything about you, all other things being equal, you're better off than your black neighbour.
Yes. That's what white privilege means.
We don't need to know anything about you, all other things being equal, you're better off than your black neighbour.
"We don't need to know anything about you". Who is "we" on this occasion? Just so I'm on the same page..
Well there's some irony spelled out and still not clicking. Figures. Lovely bit of sanctimony btw, PieBoi. Props.
Sanctimony? Irony?
I'm not making a judgement, I'm explaining what's meant by the term.
White Privilege does not mean the least privileged white person is still better off than every black person, which is what you're railing against.
It means wherever you are and whatever you're doing, a black person in the same position has fewer opportunities than a white person.
A white doctor gets paid more than a black one.
A white police officer has more opportunities for promotion than a black one. That kind of thing.
I'm not making a judgement, I'm explaining what's meant by the term.
White Privilege does not mean the least privileged white person is still better off than every black person, which is what you're railing against.
It means wherever you are and whatever you're doing, a black person in the same position has fewer opportunities than a white person.
A white doctor gets paid more than a black one.
A white police officer has more opportunities for promotion than a black one. That kind of thing.
"I'm not making a judgement". It's the only thing you have done.
"It means wherever you are and whatever you're doing, a black person in the same position has fewer opportunities than a white person."
You sound like the kind of person that really over emphasises the "awwww THANK YOU" whenever you buy anything from a bus ticket to a house off anyone Black.
Your quote is pretty much the banner I mentioned above (when everything you've described is pay disparities within 2 industries that by-and-large have Black top-dogs, just like Obama). Look I'm bored of this I feel like you look like a really angry Velma Dinkley at this point no offence. Bye.
"It means wherever you are and whatever you're doing, a black person in the same position has fewer opportunities than a white person."
You sound like the kind of person that really over emphasises the "awwww THANK YOU" whenever you buy anything from a bus ticket to a house off anyone Black.
Your quote is pretty much the banner I mentioned above (when everything you've described is pay disparities within 2 industries that by-and-large have Black top-dogs, just like Obama). Look I'm bored of this I feel like you look like a really angry Velma Dinkley at this point no offence. Bye.
Haha I’ve been called a lot of things in my life, but never that.
You misunderstood me, I hate this moderation of language as much as you do.
I’d much rather racists are allowed to be as clear as you are, then we all know where we stand.
Peace be upon you.
You misunderstood me, I hate this moderation of language as much as you do.
I’d much rather racists are allowed to be as clear as you are, then we all know where we stand.
Peace be upon you.
"I’d much rather racists/then we know where we stand". I hope you're not including me in that. I'm currently the only white dude in a house of 5 so that's me homeless. But I know my views are of my own. I have a Chinese boss and White people wince when I do a perfect impression of him. That's me. No malice or hate. You raised some valid points and I'm digging my heels in. Props for taking the digs on the chin. Peace.
It's about being honest and checking yourself. I would like to add my thoughts on UK (not US!) white privilege are pretty much summed up here by Kemi Badenoch. It used to be called a "pond" (Atlantic), but since social media breaking borders it hardly feels that anymore. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vf7yX9ESRc
you just said white privilege is real in other classes.
don't doubt you get a pass when class distinctions are bigger than race.
don't doubt you get a pass when class distinctions are bigger than race.
Wow! This reply is literally from weeks ago, and you think I wrote what now? Raj you are so off course, it's like some Jake Paul 4+4=5 conclusion. You've reached new levels of dumb digging for the ever elusive reasons you're not smart enough to be a dentist. Honestly I think it's kinds cool. You should get a podcast and enlighten all your friends. Ciao4now, bud.
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Express your opinion about vendors sharing the tracking code
It’s incredibly difficult to pay for tracked post without leaving some trace to the vendor, opening that up to unencrypted messaging on a platform lik…
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Express your opinion about vendors sharing the tracking code
Hi folks, please share your opinion about this subject.
From my personal experience, a lot of vendors refuse to give the tracking code (I'm talking about EU orders) because of "security issues". I think this is mostly wrong, I can understand if a new LB user asks you the tracking code straight after you've posted the item, but, if an older member of LB (with also a good reputation) asks you the tracking code, you SHOULD NOT refuse him for what HE PAID.
(The frustration starts when days have passed and you ask the vendor "can you please check where is my order?" and then you have to wait days to receive a reply, this could be avoided by giving the customer what he paid for)
Now, about the "security issue", let's be fair, if a cop would like to use the tracking code to track the dispatch point, he should just wait to receive the order and then he will be able to see the tracking code written on the parcel itself... So 2+2 = 5? Maybe for some vendors...
I'm not starting this topic with bad intentions, I just want to hear your opinion because I'm having enough of this.
From my personal experience, a lot of vendors refuse to give the tracking code (I'm talking about EU orders) because of "security issues". I think this is mostly wrong, I can understand if a new LB user asks you the tracking code straight after you've posted the item, but, if an older member of LB (with also a good reputation) asks you the tracking code, you SHOULD NOT refuse him for what HE PAID.
(The frustration starts when days have passed and you ask the vendor "can you please check where is my order?" and then you have to wait days to receive a reply, this could be avoided by giving the customer what he paid for)
Now, about the "security issue", let's be fair, if a cop would like to use the tracking code to track the dispatch point, he should just wait to receive the order and then he will be able to see the tracking code written on the parcel itself... So 2+2 = 5? Maybe for some vendors...
I'm not starting this topic with bad intentions, I just want to hear your opinion because I'm having enough of this.
100% agree my dude, if vendors are trying to be reputable then this would be a great way of showing trust and respect. At the end of the day we're the ones giving out our addresses to random people over the internet so we would like a bit of recognition. I get the feeling that some vendors lie about the date they send the goods, probably because they haven't enough stock in to fulfil the order in a timely manner. Honesty is the best policy in these situations
In a short while I've seen a marked difference between vendors that ship and communicate diligently (like THEPROVIDER and ukpacks) and the ones that couldn't care if they don't post the odd package. I mean, c'mon... statistically it is too unlikely that one vendor would have so much higher a rate of parcel loss and delay and the evidence points to pocketing the occasional profit instead of sending. Why else would a vendor (1) not offer tracked shipping and (2) advise people wait 16 days (which is I believe the amount of time it takes funds to clear...) before starting to ask questions. I'm not trying to be a dick (am I? sorry biggas) but waiting for my package is tearing me up inside.
I fully agree with you, let's take for example RB, he just asks to wait 48h before asking for the tracking code.
Codswallop, we get a slap on the wrist and a don't it again warning.
That's not what a vendor gets
That's not what a vendor gets
Where exactly is the added risk in sharing the code? I have yet to see 1 answer to this question.
Any agent interested in a seller just has to order to see their stealth, tracking codes or whatever else a buyer has existentially.
Any agent interested in a seller just has to order to see their stealth, tracking codes or whatever else a buyer has existentially.
It's one of these arguments where it's down to what people feel not about proof. Some vendors feel comfortable sharing the codes some don't.
A potential solutions would be a flair in the postal section the vendor could activate to show they share codes or something (or they could just write it somewhere that they do)
Arguing about what's the right way is like arguing all vendors should offer a tracked option, it's a risk that some vendors don't want to take and some do but can't find a suitable opsec way to do it (I guess) .
Take it easy 😄
A potential solutions would be a flair in the postal section the vendor could activate to show they share codes or something (or they could just write it somewhere that they do)
Arguing about what's the right way is like arguing all vendors should offer a tracked option, it's a risk that some vendors don't want to take and some do but can't find a suitable opsec way to do it (I guess) .
Take it easy 😄
This is true, but I want to add that since babylon focuses on vendors they are more at risk of being... normalised.
From my viewpoint babylon is still mainly concerned with the end-user. Because we are not protected by anyone/thing except our wits and money. So theres almost no risk in getting to most of us. And I think big percentage of vendors have protection like you and me can only dream of. Nevermind the funds they have available...
In what way are you at risk?
Just buy from the organised criminals you prefer who can afford to pay (hopefully) or coerce someone to go to the post office, rather than insist weed growers take bigger risks on your behalf.
Just buy from the organised criminals you prefer who can afford to pay (hopefully) or coerce someone to go to the post office, rather than insist weed growers take bigger risks on your behalf.
Look, I have expressed more than one time my point of view, and the LOGIC behind it.
Looks like some of you are not able to see further than their nose, so I'll stop replying the same thing over and over.
You can't afford to share the tracking number? Then don't sell on the internet, simple.
Looks like some of you are not able to see further than their nose, so I'll stop replying the same thing over and over.
You can't afford to share the tracking number? Then don't sell on the internet, simple.
You asked for opinions.
I get the point you make and I can see why you think it logical when you ignore all the counter views.
If it were tracked only, LB would be gone in a week, simple.
When sites like this get compromised, they don't get closed down, they just look and apparently work like they always did, except not.
I get the point you make and I can see why you think it logical when you ignore all the counter views.
If it were tracked only, LB would be gone in a week, simple.
When sites like this get compromised, they don't get closed down, they just look and apparently work like they always did, except not.
Am I being unable to express myself correctly in English?
If such an operation will take place, not sharing the tracking code is not going to save any vendor...
Please, follow the simple logic behind:
I'm vendor A, I don't share the tracking code for security reasons. (maybe a cop could see it online and track me down? Highly unlikely to happen, the only way is the one which has happen in the article you shared, in that case sharing or no sharing the tracking code is our last problem).
I'm customer B:
I want to get the tracking code because I want to know when my order will land, so I can be home or just know when I have to go to the post office to get it.
I'm officer C:
We are having a small operation, the website security is relatively good so it's not worth investing a lot of money to be able to hijack it, but instead, the operation is to be a customer.
Today I buy from vendor A, he is not sharing the tracking code, feeling that doing this is the smart move... Alright, I'll then just wait a couple of days until I'll receive the parcel and I can see the tracking code written in plain eyesight on the parcel, then let's repet this 100 times until we can narrow down the area from which they are operating.
I really hope this example is gonna make more sense to all of you who heavily protect the "not sharing the tracking is more safe" policy.
If such an operation will take place, not sharing the tracking code is not going to save any vendor...
Please, follow the simple logic behind:
I'm vendor A, I don't share the tracking code for security reasons. (maybe a cop could see it online and track me down? Highly unlikely to happen, the only way is the one which has happen in the article you shared, in that case sharing or no sharing the tracking code is our last problem).
I'm customer B:
I want to get the tracking code because I want to know when my order will land, so I can be home or just know when I have to go to the post office to get it.
I'm officer C:
We are having a small operation, the website security is relatively good so it's not worth investing a lot of money to be able to hijack it, but instead, the operation is to be a customer.
Today I buy from vendor A, he is not sharing the tracking code, feeling that doing this is the smart move... Alright, I'll then just wait a couple of days until I'll receive the parcel and I can see the tracking code written in plain eyesight on the parcel, then let's repet this 100 times until we can narrow down the area from which they are operating.
I really hope this example is gonna make more sense to all of you who heavily protect the "not sharing the tracking is more safe" policy.
Example A is the reason I hold the opinion I shared, at your request.
You've been clear that you think it's a silly / small risk vendors should take for you, some agree, I wouldn't. Maybe I've heard too much DarkNet Diaries.
Thankfully, there are sellers to suit all of us, and we can all just get high and get along. Cheers.
You've been clear that you think it's a silly / small risk vendors should take for you, some agree, I wouldn't. Maybe I've heard too much DarkNet Diaries.
Thankfully, there are sellers to suit all of us, and we can all just get high and get along. Cheers.
Hi guys just thought we would share our point of view, for international orders we share all tracking numbers sometimes this can that up to one day to share as we aren't online when doing our rounds but we do believe as international orders can have such a varied timeframe depending on the destination that the customer needs to know how close to arriving it is, saying this we don't feel its necessary to share tracking for NDD UK to UK as we simply wouldn't have enough time in the day to match tracking numbers to orders,
If their are any issues with UK orders and they aren't delivered within the NDD timeframe then obviously we share tracking number but so far this had only occurred once and it was a issue on RM's side. We don't know how other vendors usually operate but we haven't heard any complaints from our customers so far :)
If their are any issues with UK orders and they aren't delivered within the NDD timeframe then obviously we share tracking number but so far this had only occurred once and it was a issue on RM's side. We don't know how other vendors usually operate but we haven't heard any complaints from our customers so far :)
I am a p. cubensis vendor here in US. I routinely provide tracking numbers, even though it takes up time to pair up orders with tracking numbers. I sell only in the US currently. I don't think I am putting myself at undue risk giving out tracking numbers.
All items we send free special Gauranteed NDD by 1pm, tracking numbers are added when we click send so you know it was dispatched on the day. Which gives peace of mind to customers who are able to follow there parcel through the Royal mail system. Not giving the tracking number personally as a vendor is a no brainer. JJ & DGT
Nice one JJ - as well as excellent product at good prices - this is why i keep coming back . Your comms are great too .
my bigga.
we need a list of vendors that share the tracking code vs not. sayno2drugs does for one and they are the most experienced seller on this site.
we need a list of vendors that share the tracking code vs not. sayno2drugs does for one and they are the most experienced seller on this site.
That's a great idea, I know RadarBreeder and TheGreenTeam do share tracking codes (and both are great vendors)
Yep, I agree. Im new tho so I understand if vendors are careful. On my 2nd order here I had to wait for almost a month and eventually was re-funded by transaxe, which was very frustrating. This could be avoided if tracking numbers are the standard. Because I think this gives scammers an opening. Why would they have to send you the order if they dont have to show proof of sending. And if guys like hootan and hashishin do it, why wouldnt everybody do it? Maybe cause it costs more eh? And there are more reasons why I think it should be the standard.
Btw. I order stuff from UK on ebay all the time and I can tell you that packages with high priority, air mail and tracked, go through 3 times faster. In this case Matcha powder. I made 2 orders, 3 weeks apart, with same value from 2 shops, and first went through customs and I had to pay extra when it got delivered after almost a month! The other one went through without any extra cost and in 8 days!
I think that some sellers say that they will use postage that costs 15$ and then they use 5$ postage without admitting it to the buyer. And some sellers are probly just stupid and they cite the highest possible value on the declaration.
I can also tell you that I get stuff thats a bit more dangerous in my post, from NL. And I see how pros are doing it. Everything is nicely printed and declared as a sample or a gift, and if you pay for tracking you get it. They always have return adress.
I guess it largely depends on how smug and sure and well connected a seller is with his postal agent. Btw, dhl also can be used for heavy illegal stuff but that is rare in my experience.
Btw. I order stuff from UK on ebay all the time and I can tell you that packages with high priority, air mail and tracked, go through 3 times faster. In this case Matcha powder. I made 2 orders, 3 weeks apart, with same value from 2 shops, and first went through customs and I had to pay extra when it got delivered after almost a month! The other one went through without any extra cost and in 8 days!
I think that some sellers say that they will use postage that costs 15$ and then they use 5$ postage without admitting it to the buyer. And some sellers are probly just stupid and they cite the highest possible value on the declaration.
I can also tell you that I get stuff thats a bit more dangerous in my post, from NL. And I see how pros are doing it. Everything is nicely printed and declared as a sample or a gift, and if you pay for tracking you get it. They always have return adress.
I guess it largely depends on how smug and sure and well connected a seller is with his postal agent. Btw, dhl also can be used for heavy illegal stuff but that is rare in my experience.
I agree with you, I don't understand why almost any parcel sent from vendors on LB takes so long to land (even if are tracked).
Yeah, if the package is posted with low priority it will be extremely slow. If I order from anywhere in Europe area (even from Russia) and its set as high priority I get it in 10 days max. And if its low then its 2-4 weeks. Forgot to mention Im south EU.
Hi Hope everyone's well.
We share all tracking information once parcels are left at post office.
So all customers will have tracking numbers. So they can track parcel themselves.
TGD
We share all tracking information once parcels are left at post office.
So all customers will have tracking numbers. So they can track parcel themselves.
TGD
I don’t think it’s necessary at all, unless there’s an unexpected problem, then purely to quell any anxiety on the buyers part and prevent premature keyboard antics it’s probably a good idea then
It’s incredibly difficult to pay for tracked post without leaving some trace to the vendor, opening that up to unencrypted messaging on a platform like this is a risk with little material benefit.
Nice to know it’s coming but otherwise?
Nice to know it’s coming but otherwise?
If some law enforcement has gained access to LB (and by access I mean as an administrator) getting the tracking code would be the last thing to worry about...
I respectfully disagree, If you’re selling here you must assume everyone including admin is law enforcement and set your stall accordingly. If the platform wants to, it can and will block you using pgp.
Maybe just support sellers that do it the way you’d prefer?
Maybe just support sellers that do it the way you’d prefer?
I appreciate you for taking the time to share your opinion on this, but, I think that sharing the tracking code does not create a breach in the security for the vendors.
The tracking code is visible on the parcel itself. Would be so hard for law enforcement to create a 1-2 years operation to order from vendors just to receive the parcel with the tracking code and try to locate them based on that information?
That's what I mean by saying that by not sharing the tracking number you are building a little more layer of security... No, you are not! It is just an illusion.
The tracking code is visible on the parcel itself. Would be so hard for law enforcement to create a 1-2 years operation to order from vendors just to receive the parcel with the tracking code and try to locate them based on that information?
That's what I mean by saying that by not sharing the tracking number you are building a little more layer of security... No, you are not! It is just an illusion.
And that's the key point, your thinking. Other people may have a different way of thinking.
Personally I have no issues with vendors not handing out tracking codes as I "think" the risk to them is far greater than it is to the end user. However not every vendor agrees with me and the likes of TGD send you a tracking number once shipped.
I suggest messaging any new vendor beforehand to ask if they provide it up front and if not sticking to the vendors who do
Personally I have no issues with vendors not handing out tracking codes as I "think" the risk to them is far greater than it is to the end user. However not every vendor agrees with me and the likes of TGD send you a tracking number once shipped.
I suggest messaging any new vendor beforehand to ask if they provide it up front and if not sticking to the vendors who do
Yes that’s exactly what I’d do if I was selling contraband, let them know almost a pinpoint location, honestly you people amaze me, everyone gives out tracking codes there is no LB, be patient wait for you weed be happy, tracking illegal deliveries, super smart.
Buying illegal stuff on the internet, super smart...
Please, at least read carefully what I've wrote in the main topic and learn that 2+2 = 4.
Please, at least read carefully what I've wrote in the main topic and learn that 2+2 = 4.
Personally as a buyer I got no issue with not being provided tracking at sale, but maybe that's just what I'm used to lol.
I agree though that when there starts to be a delayed delivery and then you ask about it, that waiting around is just unneeded stress. I don't want to tap someone up multiple times for the tracking (funnily enough it's what I'm doing right now with a vendor) because then I get suspicious, as anyone would. It just makes me think that the vendor is lying, so why do business with them again? My rule has been that if you're happy dicking a customer around then you don't get that custom anymore.
I agree though that when there starts to be a delayed delivery and then you ask about it, that waiting around is just unneeded stress. I don't want to tap someone up multiple times for the tracking (funnily enough it's what I'm doing right now with a vendor) because then I get suspicious, as anyone would. It just makes me think that the vendor is lying, so why do business with them again? My rule has been that if you're happy dicking a customer around then you don't get that custom anymore.
This thread is good as its made me think that when I'm up and running I should offer a tracked postage option with tracking provided at the point of sale.
Good reading
Good reading
Well it kind of depends on the shipping you chose as to if there is a tracker or not.
I think its a good idea for vendors to have the tracking codes so they can see their products have been delivered also protects them from unscrupulous gits who claim their package never turned up,however i do not think it is necessary for them to give them out unless asked nicely for so you can both find out what has happened.
I think its a good idea for vendors to have the tracking codes so they can see their products have been delivered also protects them from unscrupulous gits who claim their package never turned up,however i do not think it is necessary for them to give them out unless asked nicely for so you can both find out what has happened.
We will provide tacking numbers with any order at our customers request or automatically if we notice RM have failed to deliver next day which in our experience can sometimes happen with RM 😊
Lots of sellers subscribe to security policies handed down from the early darknet, which had an emphasis on big wholesale orders.
I think one fear is that the customer is under surveillance and and that this information should be handled on a "need to know" basis. Thus the delay in handing out unless the package is missing.
How much sense this makes for personal amounts is another question, it would be nice to hear a seller speak on this directly.
I think one fear is that the customer is under surveillance and and that this information should be handled on a "need to know" basis. Thus the delay in handing out unless the package is missing.
How much sense this makes for personal amounts is another question, it would be nice to hear a seller speak on this directly.
I bought from a seller who could not provide tracking because he sent my parcel from UK to US here without a tracking number.
I guess this is overprotection by a vendor who wants to remain as anonymous as possible.
I guess this is overprotection by a vendor who wants to remain as anonymous as possible.
can only be a good thing. gives peace of mind and is nice to know when it's arriving.
be nice to see some different courier options
be nice to see some different courier options
Hi. I'm bizzarley locked out of my account. Saying my username and password aren't recognised even though they are all correct? I've made this new account but could you be able to get back my original account with my stats etc? Username - Bobby19841
Thanks!
Thanks!
We always provide tracking numbers for all deliveries. We want our customers to have piece of mind that when we promise same day dispatch / ND Special delivery they have the tracking number by the end of the day :-) Respect for all in this amazing community.
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Nominated for Termination 'Mrcaa_420'
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Nominated for Termination 'Mrcaa_420'
Littering the boards with constant baseless attack threads on a particular vendor of good standing.
topics by Mrcaa_420
https://littlebiggy.org/viewSubject/p/4772655
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https://littlebiggy.org/viewSubject/p/4772655
really wish this guy could crusade a little cooler. i think he's right about the cali but he's a cunt.
He loves Cali, buys 6 packs of JungleBoys at a time apparently, just trying to goad this vendor for some reason.
I have had a few non packs of Cali from vendors and the one jungles boys pack from TGD. The jungles boy pack not only verified using the scratch off code thing but in the thirty years I have been smoking it was the nicest tasting bud I have ever come across. It didn't have a passport or speak while I had it but it certainly was of a quality I have never came me across in my years. What is interesting about MrCaa is he only crusaded against TGD and not any other sellers with Cali, hell not even the other seller selling the exact same thing. It's the fact they have targeted TGD solely that make me think they should be terminated
Supported, good riddance to bad rubbish. Don’t need arseholes here. I’ve noticed a few creeping in over the last couple of years. Fuck them and the horses they rode in on.
Individuals like this are a disease, give them an inch and they’ll ruin everything.
Individuals like this are a disease, give them an inch and they’ll ruin everything.
https://littlebiggy.org/viewSubject/v/4780534?gotoPost=Y6e0U4Jwq
There are a few here, I can provide one more at a minimum and probably another couple if I went looking.
Oh and then the thread he made below to get them terminated
There are a few here, I can provide one more at a minimum and probably another couple if I went looking.
Oh and then the thread he made below to get them terminated
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Bonneville Membership ??
You sell very good weed at good prices for LB.
Sorry but this sounds fishier than a kipper box lid on a Grimsby trawler.
Bonneville Membership ??
Would buyers consider a membership scheme if incentives were right and wholly favourable ? Just throwing this out there haven’t got any concrete perks or tiers in mind yet , maybe suggest some if you think this kind of scheme could work.
Thanks BonV & team
Thanks BonV & team
You have (or rather ‘had’) a wide range of instantly well received strains so I’m sure there will be interest. Some other vendors have started offering bonuses for repeat customers as a straightforward loyalty scheme (10th order gets a free 1/8th type of thing. Nice).
For me it’s about keeping it simple- if you have consistently good product at a fair price delivered quickly with comms and stealth you really shouldn’t need to do much else.
Why add complexity and cost to your business if you are already doing it right? The most appreciated thing you could probably do is occasionally to add a sampler of a different/new strain to the order of a good customer as a thank you/bonus. They will tell everybody!
For me it’s about keeping it simple- if you have consistently good product at a fair price delivered quickly with comms and stealth you really shouldn’t need to do much else.
Why add complexity and cost to your business if you are already doing it right? The most appreciated thing you could probably do is occasionally to add a sampler of a different/new strain to the order of a good customer as a thank you/bonus. They will tell everybody!
The point of it would be more than just a few free samples here and there ( we already reward loyalty and don’t brag about it) and we would ALWAYS have stock for our ‘members’ if they existed.... it wouldn’t add complexity if done right that’s why memberships exist in all businesses? It would reward the most loyal and the most loyal would 100% know that they would ALWAYS have access to our product and we’d never ‘run’ out of product for members etc
No offence guys but it seems an awful lot to take on for a seller that went out of stock within weeks of joining (despite saying that wouldn’t happen)and currently has no listings at all!
I was one of your disappointed would-be customers (still am!) and that would have been a whole lot more than disappointment if I had paid fees in advance.
We are all already Members of the LittleBiggy community. Rather than creating sub-memberships let’s see some stock! ;)
Looking forward to it!
I was one of your disappointed would-be customers (still am!) and that would have been a whole lot more than disappointment if I had paid fees in advance.
We are all already Members of the LittleBiggy community. Rather than creating sub-memberships let’s see some stock! ;)
Looking forward to it!
Side note pollypuff, we had lots of product left after you commented about it ....you just didn’t buy anything???
I order at weekends for lower fees and by then everything had gone- but that’s great for you guys, seriously, I wait I lose my bad!
It just seems odd to be talking about membership fees, incentives and supply guarantees when you have nothing on your board?
It just seems odd to be talking about membership fees, incentives and supply guarantees when you have nothing on your board?
Like we said just wanted to see what views there were on a membership scheme .... just throwing a ‘topic’ out there for discussion, we haven’t implemented anything!
I'd love to be a member, especially if you can have your lovely green reserved. Not sure what or how it would work. Certainly interested,
Second this.
If its never gonna run out suddenly due to popularity, like recent stock then a membership would be well worth that. Any other discounts or perks are just icing on the cake.
If its never gonna run out suddenly due to popularity, like recent stock then a membership would be well worth that. Any other discounts or perks are just icing on the cake.
Looks interesting. You have been amazing so.far. why not? Giving the quality of your stuff I would sign up for this.
Love the fact I got maltesers without a membership, I'm game to hear some brainstorming for this.
Did you get the gold pack though haha ??
We want the brainstorming too that was point
We want the brainstorming too that was point
I certainly would! I average an Oz a week and am tiring of inflated descriptions (and prices) for average (or below) product. I've been actively trying to find someone who wants to build a relationship..
I would be much happy to join :)
Hit me up buddy, I can see you numbers doesn’t lies :) looking forward to try the delicatessen ;)
Hit me up buddy, I can see you numbers doesn’t lies :) looking forward to try the delicatessen ;)
This idea has been throw around a few times before and had a pretty good reception but I don't believe anything was ever followed through.
Would be a great idea if implemented correctly. What did u have in mind?
Would be a great idea if implemented correctly. What did u have in mind?
A small or reasonable membership fee (maybe tiered for different budgets) that would absolutely guarantee product for members . X amount of weight a month , exclusivity to certain strains etc , updates , apparel , increased weight in purchases, offset Bitcoin fees , free postage..... list goes on !
You sell very good weed at good prices for LB.
Sorry but this sounds fishier than a kipper box lid on a Grimsby trawler.
Sorry but this sounds fishier than a kipper box lid on a Grimsby trawler.
where do i sign up sounds perfect not bought off yoi but the reviews say it all. as a noob monthly drop like beer52
I agree with pollypuff 20 completely your smoke is absolutely banging that runts has gotta be up there in my top 3 ever smokes and you definitely don’t need to do anything.. but Wundt say no to the odd free gram or something also lol :) couple other vendors have loyalty schemes on here I think it’s a nice touch
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Hi all,new to all this, set up with coinbase for bitcoin but bank of scotland won't process payment, would I need to join another bank, any ideas would be gratefull
I’m not with RBS so not 100% sure this option will work, but with CoinJar you make a transfer to their account rather than making a transaction through the app itself which skips the automated checks for “dodgy” transactions. It’s easy to use and set up, well worth a go if you’re going to go through the fuss of a new bank account
Try cryptovoucher . io
Fees arent so bad if you only purchase small amounts and you can just top up your wallet this way, it's the only somewhat cheap method I've found that's hassel free and no verification needed (as long as you stay within their daily/monthly purchase limits)
Fees arent so bad if you only purchase small amounts and you can just top up your wallet this way, it's the only somewhat cheap method I've found that's hassel free and no verification needed (as long as you stay within their daily/monthly purchase limits)
Coinbase wouldn't process payments from my Lloyds card. I got the card cancelled and a new one issued and all was fine
I just looked them up and ... https://cryptobriefing.com/fire-com-burns-bitcoin-bridges/
My bank has a no bitcoin policy as well and I'm looking for alternatives.
My bank has a no bitcoin policy as well and I'm looking for alternatives.
Epilogue : with my bank a dead end I thought I'd try a Bitcoin atm so I looked up the map on coinatmradar, found one about half an hour away listed as online "reported by provider 10 minutes ago".
Went there and the guy said they hadn't had a bitcoin machine in the shop since he bought it a few years previously.
Went there and the guy said they hadn't had a bitcoin machine in the shop since he bought it a few years previously.
try localbitcoins.com - there should be a link to your local exchange, at least thats how it is in my country. cheapest btc one can find and I pay for it with a slip and with cash.
Well that does seem to have got trustpilot reviews, although I thought p2p transactions were a bit risky.
I avoided paxful on the same basis, although they've got the option to use paypal, which would be convenient.
I've heard reports that paypal are also not keen on transactions buying bitcoin, but I'm not sure how accurate that is.
I avoided paxful on the same basis, although they've got the option to use paypal, which would be convenient.
I've heard reports that paypal are also not keen on transactions buying bitcoin, but I'm not sure how accurate that is.
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Understanding Transaxe Referrals...?
Transaxe states '5%' and '5 years' but it's clearly only 1% to start so who knows!?
Understanding Transaxe Referrals...?
Hey Biggaz!
Quick question for you. If i have transaxe referrals accumulating, does that mean I get a % of all of those peoples spends for FIVE years?? Just off the one referral??
This is how i have Understood it to work...but would like confirmation.
Thanks! <3
Quick question for you. If i have transaxe referrals accumulating, does that mean I get a % of all of those peoples spends for FIVE years?? Just off the one referral??
This is how i have Understood it to work...but would like confirmation.
Thanks! <3
You get 1% of the transaction for ever sale made through the links you share. If someone signs up with your referral code, you get 1% of every purchase they make for 3 (I thought it was 3?) years.
Ok, but in case of a referral (except if it is your own), the fee for vendors is automatically 5 % higher. If I understand it correctly.
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The Gentlemen Dealers should NOT sell Jungle Boys packs! EVER!
Consider it a badge of honour, same guy throwing shade over Hootan, which tells me all I need to know. My mind is blown that someone will buy 6 1/8th'…
The Gentlemen Dealers should NOT sell Jungle Boys packs! EVER!
So we have another one. We see a pattern emerging.
Manage to retain decorum with this one, brownie points for us :)
Spaceman55:
https://littlebiggy.org/link/wzr1ua
Enjoy.
Manage to retain decorum with this one, brownie points for us :)
Spaceman55:
https://littlebiggy.org/link/wzr1ua
Enjoy.
Deep breaths Gents...deep breaths. All things must pass.
You guys are the go to for me on here and in EVERY single transaction I've made, I can honestly say, there has never been an issue. Not one. In over a year.
Keep doing what you do. The best comms, the best products, and the most reliable vendor.
I'm sure it will all stop when the kids go back to school. They get bored in the holidays ;)
You guys are the go to for me on here and in EVERY single transaction I've made, I can honestly say, there has never been an issue. Not one. In over a year.
Keep doing what you do. The best comms, the best products, and the most reliable vendor.
I'm sure it will all stop when the kids go back to school. They get bored in the holidays ;)
Absolutely shocking behaviour from these idiots! Yes, you can buy fake packs and fake verification stickers but the fact is the verification code is fake and when you enter it in the website it will return nothing...whereas the genuine packs will return a positive identification.
And as I have seen from someone who purchased one of your JB packs it verifies so how can it be fake. Absolute morons!!!
Keep up the good work TGD!!
And as I have seen from someone who purchased one of your JB packs it verifies so how can it be fake. Absolute morons!!!
Keep up the good work TGD!!
Theoretically someone could buy a genuine pack from a shop in California, open it from the bottom (maybe, I dunno) then sell the empty pack on. Or they could cut the verification sticker off and sell that. Therefore the pack or the verification sticker could be real, but the weed inside isn't the original weed.
I'm not saying that's what's happening here (I'm a TGD customer, and very happy) but you asked how the weed could be fake if the code checks out, and that's one way I thought of. Whether it's feasible or not, I do not know.
Additionally, under the described circumstance it's plausible that the theoretical vendor has fake weed in real packs and doesn't even know it. Peace
I'm not saying that's what's happening here (I'm a TGD customer, and very happy) but you asked how the weed could be fake if the code checks out, and that's one way I thought of. Whether it's feasible or not, I do not know.
Additionally, under the described circumstance it's plausible that the theoretical vendor has fake weed in real packs and doesn't even know it. Peace
Thank you Khuunntt :)
That certainly is one way of achieving a verifiable sticker, but it would mean the packs would show signs of tampering, where they have been cut open to extract the genuine product and replace with something else. Our packs are intact and sealed by the manufacturer, and the codes verify using the manufacturer's method.
We appreciate your reasoned input, and your custom,
Kindest regards :)
That certainly is one way of achieving a verifiable sticker, but it would mean the packs would show signs of tampering, where they have been cut open to extract the genuine product and replace with something else. Our packs are intact and sealed by the manufacturer, and the codes verify using the manufacturer's method.
We appreciate your reasoned input, and your custom,
Kindest regards :)
Received my jungle boys pack this morning. Verified on cannverify. Bud smells fucking unreal and can’t wait to inhale this :)
glad someone posted this, could you also post a pic of the serial number on your pack so that it proves it tallys up. then this whole argument is dead surely?
True but if you're buying a $46 product, taking the real stuff, sealing it with different stuff and selling that for $160, it's worth the effort surely.
Agreed but, I doubt TGD get it for $46 so their markup would be much less. At source would be the best bet for tampering but then their markup wouldn’t be that high either as they wouldn’t be able to charge $160 which, I think is ridiculous for an eighth but is the going rate on here.
Also as TGD state you’d be clearly be able to see tampering on the packs if they had in-fact been opened, emptied and replaced with different weed! Oh and let’s not forget cutting the verification stick off another pack and sticking that on their too.
Only to find out is to buy a pack yourself which is exactly what I am going to do :-)
Also as TGD state you’d be clearly be able to see tampering on the packs if they had in-fact been opened, emptied and replaced with different weed! Oh and let’s not forget cutting the verification stick off another pack and sticking that on their too.
Only to find out is to buy a pack yourself which is exactly what I am going to do :-)
Well if they get direct from the dispensary, which from understanding, they must do, as only two dispensqries sell JB products then they're paying the dispensary rate which is $46 an 1/8th.
If packs were opened and refilled, then you wouldn't need to touch the cannverify sticker.
If packs were opened and refilled, then you wouldn't need to touch the cannverify sticker.
Pipe down.
Since it's boring me as you've clearly missed the point. I didn't say anyone WAS doing the above I mentioned, I simply said it would be worth someones time if they did do it. That is all.
Since it's boring me as you've clearly missed the point. I didn't say anyone WAS doing the above I mentioned, I simply said it would be worth someones time if they did do it. That is all.
Did you read the post two posts above?
This one:
https://littlebiggy.org/link/IbnFBi
It might be worth it for you, we're obviously different people.
This one:
https://littlebiggy.org/link/IbnFBi
It might be worth it for you, we're obviously different people.
Was I responding to you? Benji says it seems a lot of effort, I just pointed out it would be worth it.
To you. It would be worth it to you. We're old fashioned. We value respect and dignity, and honour.
It's "human" to want to spoil someone else's reputation in order to carry out some sort of agenda. I have been on LB for over a year now, and I have noticed certain users siding with certain vendors, with reviews on the borderline with propaganda (do they get a discount or what?). And then when I happened to try the same vendors I experienced delays, dull products and not so great manners. Similarly, there's the plan to put dirt on other quality vendors in order to favour their besties (and obtain even greater discounts, perhaps.) As someone else pointed out in this thread, it's almost a point of honour, it means you guys are doing very well and have competitors.
Consider it a badge of honour, same guy throwing shade over Hootan, which tells me all I need to know. My mind is blown that someone will buy 6 1/8th's for more than I paid to fly to Cali quite recently.
You've clearly got other vendors rattled, good work.
You've clearly got other vendors rattled, good work.
What an idiot that bloke is. Talk about spitting out your dummy, would love to see if he had this attitude if he wasn’t anonymous on this. Can’t stand childish clowns like that, you’re a top vendor, keep it up mate.
I have have a friend that lives in the us and I’m sure he said before dispensaries sometimes sell shite weed he said something about mould can sometimes be on the buds if it verifies this is probably what’s happened I don’t think tgd have intentionally rippped anyone off it’s just what can happen.
Imo Cali isn’t worth it even when it’s good. You can get just as good weed from a grower
Imo Cali isn’t worth it even when it’s good. You can get just as good weed from a grower
Thank you KKAIZER1, we're pretty sure in this case that the purchaser is simply not being forthright. We suspect a connection in some way to the seller he keeps referencing, and a concerted and combined effort to discredit us. Just have read of the things we're accused of, and the refusal even to accept the manufacturer's method of verification as valid for our products, whilst at the same time considering it definitive for those of his preferred seller. This is either dissonance, where medical intervention might perhaps be required, or it's tactics of the most soiled sort, stinky!
We've sold the same products/strains to other customers that are more than happy.
We agree that Cali weed is ridiculously overpriced,
Kindest regards :)
We've sold the same products/strains to other customers that are more than happy.
We agree that Cali weed is ridiculously overpriced,
Kindest regards :)
Hi Annap :) It's ridiculously overpriced flower from California :)
Love to you too :)
Love to you too :)
My god man have you no shame? It's overpriced bud that you yourselves inserted into those bags lmfao!
If it came from Cali, if it really really came from Cali you wouldn't rely on noobs with very little if any exp with Cali to fight your corner.
Why on earth would a Cali vendor sell to you at a loss and at this level of risk when they can sell it for 10-25 bucks in Cali? Mate you are a thieving bastard, a lying piece of shit and a tryhard scammer. Luckily people don't seem to be falling for it much though you are still trying. You don't sell Cali it a UK grower ffs stop lying, come clean and be a decent human being... Don't worry I know that is way beyond your capabilities you self centered, heartless little shit bags.
If it came from Cali, if it really really came from Cali you wouldn't rely on noobs with very little if any exp with Cali to fight your corner.
Why on earth would a Cali vendor sell to you at a loss and at this level of risk when they can sell it for 10-25 bucks in Cali? Mate you are a thieving bastard, a lying piece of shit and a tryhard scammer. Luckily people don't seem to be falling for it much though you are still trying. You don't sell Cali it a UK grower ffs stop lying, come clean and be a decent human being... Don't worry I know that is way beyond your capabilities you self centered, heartless little shit bags.
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Hootan.
Best link on the board.
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supply and demand, no-one is buying, should be healthy discounts!
so £10/G = £280, so usually there is discount so im looking for an ounce for a fair price, £240.
pollen or 00, similar quality.
anyone selling at non clown prices?
so £10/G = £280, so usually there is discount so im looking for an ounce for a fair price, £240.
pollen or 00, similar quality.
anyone selling at non clown prices?
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The Cult of Dynavap
Adjustabowl is worth it for hash, steel not titanium and dump the cotton.
The Cult of Dynavap
Gotta laugh when I see these guys, esp. reviews and retailer vlogs on YouTube. You've seen them too. Working that carb like it actually is work, like someone operating a rocker switch, or playing a piccolo rather than simply pulsing a finger over a little hole. Perhaps that's what they have in mind.
It's vaping gear, not taking a solo in Peter and the fucking Wolf!
Still, I love the thing: the concept, the physics, the evolution of the form and custom third-party options where luxury materials and dubious science give collector and nerd the chance to indulge themselves and empty the wallet. I'm glad restraint, budget and use of other vapes over the last twenty years (most still working) means my only model is still a 2016 TI-Woody which has processed serious amounts of everything and, kept clean, still gives its all, especially through glass. I was considering the Dynacoil, but for solids rather than runnier options, and so far general consensus doesn't impress over the hemp wool method.
I'll replace the tip sometime, maybe get another set of screens. Perhaps next year.
Dynavap users of littlebiggy, what's your experience?
It's vaping gear, not taking a solo in Peter and the fucking Wolf!
Still, I love the thing: the concept, the physics, the evolution of the form and custom third-party options where luxury materials and dubious science give collector and nerd the chance to indulge themselves and empty the wallet. I'm glad restraint, budget and use of other vapes over the last twenty years (most still working) means my only model is still a 2016 TI-Woody which has processed serious amounts of everything and, kept clean, still gives its all, especially through glass. I was considering the Dynacoil, but for solids rather than runnier options, and so far general consensus doesn't impress over the hemp wool method.
I'll replace the tip sometime, maybe get another set of screens. Perhaps next year.
Dynavap users of littlebiggy, what's your experience?
Most YT vape reviews make me squirm, the reviewers seem to think they are 18th C showmen but somehow trained by USA shopping channel presenters, urgh.
Dynavap - I've blazed for 50 yrs, spliffs & pipes until, like you, vapes arrived. Have tried most but don't like complex parts, fiddly operation, batteries etc as retired from a hi-tech industry and want "simples" now.
The dyna recreates the whole flame & stick thing in the fingers memory for me. So 99% they are the thing for me. The coil is a waste of time for solid, hash that is. The fuss of dewaxed hemp fibre is inded a pain so I now use a Boundless CFX for hash, though crumbling some hash into a Dyna with bud or shake works well but messes up the flavour & hit ofc.
To those who have difficulty with Dyna, don't over think the method, just try all variations of packing, rolling, heating until you find what suits you - it's a very personal thing. I pack loose with medium grind, use a large single flame jet lighter and "feather" the carb open/closed fairly fast, Works for me, a wondrous thing, I now have three 8-0
Polly - if you have overheated your clicker cap to the extent it glowed red, it's likely damaged and will never click at the correct temperature again, needs replacing.
Dynavap - I've blazed for 50 yrs, spliffs & pipes until, like you, vapes arrived. Have tried most but don't like complex parts, fiddly operation, batteries etc as retired from a hi-tech industry and want "simples" now.
The dyna recreates the whole flame & stick thing in the fingers memory for me. So 99% they are the thing for me. The coil is a waste of time for solid, hash that is. The fuss of dewaxed hemp fibre is inded a pain so I now use a Boundless CFX for hash, though crumbling some hash into a Dyna with bud or shake works well but messes up the flavour & hit ofc.
To those who have difficulty with Dyna, don't over think the method, just try all variations of packing, rolling, heating until you find what suits you - it's a very personal thing. I pack loose with medium grind, use a large single flame jet lighter and "feather" the carb open/closed fairly fast, Works for me, a wondrous thing, I now have three 8-0
Polly - if you have overheated your clicker cap to the extent it glowed red, it's likely damaged and will never click at the correct temperature again, needs replacing.
Good advice Dirigible!
Nah, I was exaggerating about the glow, but I’m sure it doesn’t click every time and those extra seconds of heating leave me nervous about the temperature of the draw. I’m obviously cack-handed on the “feathering” too although I guess that’s just practice. But “practice” at all seems a little weird- turn on my battery vape and like a polite doobie-butler it prepares everything for me, every time the same.
I have FOMO with my Dynavap but I’m not sure it’s justified!
Nah, I was exaggerating about the glow, but I’m sure it doesn’t click every time and those extra seconds of heating leave me nervous about the temperature of the draw. I’m obviously cack-handed on the “feathering” too although I guess that’s just practice. But “practice” at all seems a little weird- turn on my battery vape and like a polite doobie-butler it prepares everything for me, every time the same.
I have FOMO with my Dynavap but I’m not sure it’s justified!
Gotta concur with the shopping channel vibe you get. Those fanboys will grate before long, but you've helped their click commission by that point, tee hee.
Good point there friend, in that the steel builds and retains the temp better. With dry sift I find using two titanium screens at different heights offer perfect hash microdosing with no micro scooby dust coming thorugh on big pulls.
I love my Dynavap m 2020. Simple and stealth. Still like to toke a pure one now and again too. I clean it with pipe cleaners and alcohol liquid.
Cool review!
I want to love my Dynavap M but the fiddly little bastard resists all my advances. Maybe I’m a fat-fingered fool but I never seem to ‘play the same tune’ on the carb twice, which means sometimes I get an unexpectedly hard/hot hit and sometimes I get sweet bugger all!
And don’t get me started on the darn “click”. I will swear before a Grand Jury that mine does not click every time which usually results in overheating (glowing red hot being a clue!)
But it does like to tease- it’s very economical on the load and every 4th or 5th attempt I get a lovely draw that lures me back. I want to do that every time like I want to hit that great sweet spot golf shot every time but it continues to elude me.
It’s either a fiddly little temperamental piece of overpriced shit or a wonder of modern engineering. Dunno.....
I want to love my Dynavap M but the fiddly little bastard resists all my advances. Maybe I’m a fat-fingered fool but I never seem to ‘play the same tune’ on the carb twice, which means sometimes I get an unexpectedly hard/hot hit and sometimes I get sweet bugger all!
And don’t get me started on the darn “click”. I will swear before a Grand Jury that mine does not click every time which usually results in overheating (glowing red hot being a clue!)
But it does like to tease- it’s very economical on the load and every 4th or 5th attempt I get a lovely draw that lures me back. I want to do that every time like I want to hit that great sweet spot golf shot every time but it continues to elude me.
It’s either a fiddly little temperamental piece of overpriced shit or a wonder of modern engineering. Dunno.....
Well put. It's both of those things, relative material pricing being a case in point. Pax may be considered the 'Apple' of vapes in form and (not that long ago) function but I raise a cynical eye at the cost of screens and novelty caps once the R&D and tooling costs have paid for themselves.
As for consistency of hit, the fact mine stopped clicking a few years ago and I rarely combust proves it isn't a necessity. Basic understanding of thermodynamics isn't as important as common sense, concerning how metal distributes and retains heat. It's not exactly living dangerously, but even my memory has the capability of stopping the heat before all fingers are used up. A single jet torch helps and I can usually smell when things are beginning to liven up.
Tease it back: experiment with smallest capacity first and duration/length/location of flame. Rules are made to be broken, or at least reviewed. Pay more mind to breathing speed than click and you'll develop an intuition and new respect for it, like both the earlier Vapman and Vaponic butane vapes demanded.
As for consistency of hit, the fact mine stopped clicking a few years ago and I rarely combust proves it isn't a necessity. Basic understanding of thermodynamics isn't as important as common sense, concerning how metal distributes and retains heat. It's not exactly living dangerously, but even my memory has the capability of stopping the heat before all fingers are used up. A single jet torch helps and I can usually smell when things are beginning to liven up.
Tease it back: experiment with smallest capacity first and duration/length/location of flame. Rules are made to be broken, or at least reviewed. Pay more mind to breathing speed than click and you'll develop an intuition and new respect for it, like both the earlier Vapman and Vaponic butane vapes demanded.
Practice mostly. Triple jet torch imo is a necessity, and respect the click. I combust often but not enough to piss me off. Usually when I'm a bit stoned and don't !at it get to the click on the cooldown.
I usually get one wispy draw, and 2 decent clouds maybe 3 per cycle. I don't go for full extraction cos I like to use the avb. I hope you'll persevere with it. When you get it right, it's a great experience. I suppose I am a bit of a cultist though.
I usually get one wispy draw, and 2 decent clouds maybe 3 per cycle. I don't go for full extraction cos I like to use the avb. I hope you'll persevere with it. When you get it right, it's a great experience. I suppose I am a bit of a cultist though.
I definitely agree about practice. It does take a while, and I’m still chucking different ways of heating into the equation!
Combustion is an occupational hazard but as you say no biggy. I really like the dynavap and it has got me off tobacco easier than any other attempt I’ve tried to make. There have been multiple attempts. What a great vape.
Combustion is an occupational hazard but as you say no biggy. I really like the dynavap and it has got me off tobacco easier than any other attempt I’ve tried to make. There have been multiple attempts. What a great vape.