I don't know the science but I have extensive experience with both and hands down modafanil feels way healthier than adderall. Way easier to sleep, less jittery and less addictive.

The Science backs you up G, modafinil is a hystamine and adderall is an amphetamine, the latter is way more fucked on your body and addictive.

Did anyone get chosen to test the batch? Anyone get anything shipped to them?

Me pleeeeeeease

I have been taking modafanil for at least 3 years, and consider myself a good judge of the product. I have tried different companies before settling on what I take now. Please message me as I would be interested in being in your test group. Thank you, Zippysmom

very interested in being a test subject

Will test

What is Waklert 150? And a 300ct? I’m not sure if this is a stupid question.

Armodafinil. 300 tablets.

Yes please, I'm interested

Hey, I'm interested in hearing more. Cheers.

Messaged!

Does it matter where I live?

No I don't even need to know that or your IRL name. It's all biggy+crypto verse.

Did you get any follow up on this? Still looking?

I'm interested, could you please pm me with more information?

interested.

I'm interested if you're still hiring

Still hiring?

yes

Hey man,

I've always been curious as to how you little biggers work. If you employ people if these are organizations that are sellers or more of your grass roots type.

Anyway.....
Peace :)

In a nutshell it is structured around no-trust. There are multiple checks and balances like a blockchain ledger in some ways.

Still hiring? Wondering what's up.

1st onset is like limitless, you feel a command of your mind that is unique. never felt like that again for me but it does give me a really strong momentum on whatever i want to do.

Ship to Europe Netherlands, weird right, willing to send a sample, to see if ,I get through? PM me.

If you said it was for improving focus that's what's going to happen unless you have an independent minded doctor. Moda prescriptions are for narcolepsy since this is what it has been tested for.

Not to mention (well actually *to* mention) adderall is promoted to doctors and moda is not. Follow the money.

cost. they start you on lowest cost, each pill has to be rejected b/c of side effects. Provigil costs $1500/mo.

#dreamdoctor

If you straight up say your issue is narcolepsy you can get the moda scrip.

This isn't so unusual in the drug world, no one new how aspirin worked for a century.

True, if the symptoms subsided, then that was the cure back then. The history of Aspirin is interesting, First used 1000s of years ago to relieve pain and has been refined and enhanced since, just like another plant that springs to mind ;-)

Well we know it increases histamine and this makes you alert.

So does speed an coke

How did it get developed without an idea of this?

You're right, you don't know shit. What if the red/purple stuff is bad?

It's Inattention, filthy, red, purple inattention and it must be Destroyed.

The cumulative effects of modafinil are not well known though there is some evidence that it builds up neuron protection, modulates circadian rhythms and produces advantages for cognitive development. Personally I don't think these effects are so terrific that they outweigh the possible negative side effects which are also kind of hazy and unproven.

Dependency. Afinil is a great thing, and fairly benign but like anything else if you get used to it's effects you get tolerance and psychological (not physical) addiction.

I would say less extremes, I was often euphoric as an occasional user but also more short tempered according to my boyfriend. As a full time user it's more like a cleaner, more effective coffee habit, I have consistent energy don't crash in the afternoon but otherwise it's kinf of uneventful.

I love moda but can't imagine daily use it seems like it would lose it's effects and you would be back where you started.

Sounds like you are not on the tough end of the ADHD spectrum. For me daily use is more like the difference between things working well vs struggling.

Can you imagine daily caffeine use? Then you are 75% there. Now imagine skipping a day and think how you feel or picture having an extra cup or 2 for a busy day.

Now give this up cold or take one tomorrow thats daily use right there.

I have sold from every production run Sun (a bit less from the other manufacturers) has had in the last 3 years and have zero reason to believe in bad batches.

That said the complexities of medicine make these claims impossible to prove or disprove on their own merits.

I would welcome anyone that wants to develop a real testing solution to this. It would help me sell more and I'd pitch in to funding it, I'm sure most of the other sellers would too, we don't gain anything with questionable product.

Most of the allegations regarding pharmaceuticals from India being inferior in quality is a load of crap. Big Pharma sources a lot of precursors there. For cost cutting a lot of work was outsourced to India and the knowledge gathered was later used in new founded companies that made generics, that ironically has become a serious competitor for Big Pharma and a certain threat to their business model.

As precursors, knowledge, production process and so forth is identical to that of Big Pharma, I don't see why there would be any difference in quality. I'm not talking about counterfeit pills, they do exist, but any vendor selling that is out of business soon.

Testing that is not that difficult. A Marquis reagent is a good indicator to isolate what is in a pill sold as modafinil. The shade of color visually indicates the strength.

That does not tell you how much mg you have in a pill, but does allow you to test a so called 'US/EU' Premium brand. Basically there should be little or no difference.

Word, someone should tell this to the fuckwits on r/afinil.

dont take that subreddit seriously, its all shitposting to support adrafanil.

I have been taking modafinil and armodafinil for around 6 months and I have been partaking in the canna for around 20 years. I have held of on smoking for the day and took moda in the morning so I have done it without getting elevated.

Moda usually makes me alert and aware and canna lazy as fuck but creative.

I have been eating edibles a lot lately and am currently on a nice dose of medicated peanut butter and 150mg of flmodafinil. It is almost like a war between the two since one is an upper and the other is a downer. I feel very ready to get shit done and creative. But I still get distracted and end up writing stuff like this.

In my opinion I dont think they have any negative effects when combined. They may cancel each other out to an extent but all in all I like the feeling even though I wish I was playing a game instead of working, and maybe had some gummies.

Side note on flmodafinil: I bought this before I ran out of armodafinil as backup after reading it was a lot stronger and most dose at around 50mg. It did not seem to impressive at 50mg, 75mg or 100mg. Today I took 150mg and it was like the first time taking a full armodafinil. Going to get more Armodafinil though as it seems more reliable.

As far as the cannabis goes it sounds like Indica, do you use sativa? It's the opposite of lazy for most people.

I sativa when I can find it. Just seems like most everything is hybrid anymore. Used to grow a few nice sativa strains that I wish I still had.

Interesting, sativa doesn't energize you?

I would not say that it energizes me per se. It is more so like it does not make me lazy like a heavy indica would. I do like sativa strains they just seem like getting a straight sativa or indica is getting harder and harder. There are just so many hybrids out there.

I think it's great if you know your rhythm with both. The cycles are pretty different, especially if you are smoking your cannabis.

I take edible cannabis 3 times a week and moda 3 to 4 times a week. Never really on the same day unless i started it with an early moda and a late afternoon edible then a night out. It seems pretty sustainable, some weeks I go a little more or less on either.

More like cannabis / modafinil.

You mean like alternating don't you

He means he's modastoned

I think armodafinil is a little less tweaky than moda which is considerably less tweaky than adderall.

I find my modalert and waklert completely indistinguishable.

I can understand people calling it paranoia but when hundreds/thousands of people have this suspicion (and all around the same time), that definitely adds some weight to the claims. I don't think anyone is questioning Sun or Hab themselves, even though we all know that their QC regulations are way more laxed than the western world. The effects people are describing are consistent with one another and are consistent with the waves of threads that have popped up in the past in regards to this topic. All that aside, I am one who DO believe there are bad batches from time to time. I've eliminated or reduced any variables and taken one from the questionable batch one day and one from a batch that Ive taken before and had consistent results with. Let me tell you, the difference is night and day. Obviously tolerance, stomach contents, caffein intake, etc can change the effects drastically but on numerous occasions I've done this comparison minimizing any variables and the questionable batch is consistently shit. Why there would even be counterfeits of a medication that is already super chaeap from the source? No clue. Not certain about anything other than I know there are bad batches or counterfeits in circulation. I'm 100% certain. In fact, I even found small differences in the foil strips. Questionable batch foil is ever so slightly thicker and less pliable. It's also heavier on a gram scale. Stamp of batch number and info is a different ink because it fades on areas inconsistently whereas the known good package stamp fades evenly and never to a point where you can't read the text. I'm willing to send this sample to someone to put next to their own known good product to see that there are differences in the packaging if you look closely. Weigh the strip and weigh a known good sample. I don't have one of this thickness gauges that measure the thickness of things accurately but I'm willing to bet that it's thicker than legit moda. I imagine a huge manufacturer like Sun uses manufacturing processes that ensures all the finished packaging is the same. I can understand small variations in the manufacturing process but not the thickness of the foil or ink used. I'll eventually study these different batches enough to come up with a list of tell-tale signs of bunk moda.i do plan on taking different batches samples to someone who can test the ink and someone who knows the manufacturering processes of foil strips. It might look like I'm just imagining things but until y

If it were here I would tend to trust it a lot more. The afinil subreddit has always been moderated corruptly as hell. The current theme is discrediting modafinil to move people to adrafinil powder over at the nootropics sites.

True this, if you look at the industry it seems very possible that bad batches occur and that these would make their way into the hands of shady (no offense rex, shady like em :) exporters.

What if anything are the health differences? Thanks

Anyone ever tried alpha brain or lions mane ?

lions mane is a great idea for most people, like vitamins for your brain. and a nice complement to cannabis imho

Thanks bud . I just recently found out about it. Gonna order some and try it for a few months.

I keep asking for them at my vitamin store and they act like Im nuts.

This is basically a send up on anything that can be considered a "cognitive enhancer" - except for some reason amphetamines. I wonder who funded this study.

Doesn't matter who funded it, we count an adversarial systems to find truths. I'm a moda user and it makes intuitive sense to me, focus is the antithesis of plasticity.

Sorry, what is brain plasticity?

Its basically the progamability of a brain

Apparently not

"Clinical trials on humans involving taking up to 1200 mg/day for 7–21 days and known incidents of acute one-time overdoses up to 4500 mg did not appear to cause life-threatening effects, although a number of adverse experiences were observed, including excitation or agitation, insomnia, anxiety, irritability, aggressiveness, confusion, nervousness, tremor, palpitations, sleep disturbances, nausea, and diarrhoea."

As of 2004, the FDA is not aware of any fatal overdoses involving modafinil alone (as opposed to multiple drugs, including modafinil).

There's a first for everything, the thing to keep in mind is that modafinil does not have a very long track record. Odds are that 1 day someone will die from modafinil abuse. How? Maybe they have a heart condition they dont known about and they stay awake for days at a time thinking that its sustainable.

Another possibility to OD is through a mix of moda and other substances, the combination of which is not well tested. If anyone has any doubt about this stuff just come to this biggy and we will all try and help sort it out.

The amount someone would have to take for such a long time is incredible. There are serious risks to taking anything in excessive doses. Plus, one should always test very small amounts first to see how their body reacts, especially if not part of a doctor-advised regimen.

No or it wouldn't be here

1 Weed is good at the end of the moda trip, an indica is very soothing, when i don't feel like getting trippy I'll use a CBD strain.

2 It's not the same natural feel of cannabis but there really isn't anything I would call toxic at all.

3 Yes

Well put sir I would add that a little sativa actually works well with moda for me but I don't want to get too manic or unfocused so I am pretty conservative, like 1 hit is plenty.

There used to be a guy here selling hangover cures I always thought who needs that when you have modafinil.

40 hours seems to be a common thing, reports of 60 hours or more appear significant.

Depends on what mode I am in. If I am exercising and eating healthy, not drinking I can get 36 hours with not too much payback. If I am on the other end of the spectrum an all nighter is it.

I'm hopeless at staying awake, always the 1st to fall asleep. With modafanil I can pull an all nighter and not be a freak show until 4 in the afternoon the next day. For me that is insane.

I take modafinil in the morning, 4 days a week. It never seems to keep me awake but I do notice that on the secomd day of not taking moda I have a worse nights sleep.

reddit pretty much outlawed the afinil sub when the american government started holding them liable for content. Rex posted that his account was cancelled, you can see it on his page.

Yeah they killed r/darknetmarkets at the same time.

The mods all sell competing nootropics so they steer people away from modafinil with bad experience threads, bad batch shit and the like. Yes it was a cool place a long time ago with people like Gwern making interesting posts but even then it was corrupt as hell.

Not if you care about your liver. Adrafinil is basically modafinil after it is processed by your liver. Skip this process and save your liver by using modfanil instead.

I like adrafinil because it comes in a powder and that makes for better dosage control.

Only if you have time though, if you don't take the time tablets wind up being more consistent. Ive learned this shit the hard way

Imagine having to read all those papers moda is perfect for cranking out the shit exactly like this

Because it's bad news for the amphetamine industry and they have more money to bribe doctors and legislators.

I take classes and still have shit to get done

Try noopept, it will get you out of the house, elevate your mode and give you the healthy break g.

Anyone here have noopept?

I just did after near daily use for months and I felt bad for 6 days max. I can't say I missed it a lot and used the time to experiment with other nootropics especially the racetams. I will start the semester all healthy with noopept and then start slipping in the moda when studies start heating up.

I get a little more aggressive, not really Trumpish but maybe like Larry David when he is in a good mood.

I have never felt twitchy like adderall but my fingers have, moving on their own like a player piano, if I take moda 3 days straight.

I usually experience a mild/dull headache - onset about an hour after taking modalert 100-200mg, subsides typically on its own a few hours later.

I sometimes get a tiny headache as well. But, only if I have not yet eaten breakfast, not had enough water, &/or have taken another stimulating nootropic.
Once I eat something and drink some water, it's gone. **Typically, for me, if I get a tiny headache an hour after Modafinil, it's actually a caffeine withdrawal ache because I forgot to drink my morning Coffee (bc I already felt awake lol).

Sports! I have had the *worst* experiences like breaking bones and twitching and generally starting to freak myself into a heart attack simulation!

Whoah, wtf?

Really, it's like there's an afnil rythm that effects heartbeat and other rythms and it desynchronizes you from sports.

I would say socializing with small groups of people like family and people that know you well. With bigger crowds I think it actually helps with strangers.

Before I jumped on the ModaTrain, I used Adrafinil for a while. I enjoyed the overall feeling, but did not like the side effects (esp. on my liver). So, after much research, I switched to Modalert 200mg once daily upon waking @6am. So far, it has been everything I've hoped. I have not had to increase dose nor any side effects. Cycling is obviously preferred, but for me, once daily works best, esp if 2 days a week I take only half a tab (100mg). Tolerance can be a huge issue for MOST people! When I used to take Adderall and Ritalin, even just a low dose (3-30mg) for a few consecutive days severely limited the desired effects while increasing the negative effects. To my surprise, I have not had this issue with Modafinil. In fact, I can often lower to 50-100mg on days that I have little to do, & I still get great effects!

Modafinil and armodafinil have a half life of about 12 hours and 15 hours respectively, so we suggest taking one tab upon wakening. If you are new to afinil, start with 1/2 tab. This should keep you awake for the whole day. We caution exceeding one tab daily as it can result in over stimulation and insomnia.
Best practice is to limit use to 2 - 3 times a week.

This is almost exactly how I do it except on the 3rd day i take a full tab.

I initially took 100mg but I found that there was little effect, so on day 4 I took 200mg. This definitely did the trick. I have been taking 200mg daily for three months now. I have no problem sleeping.

The weirdest thing I've noticed is you will start to smell it in your piss pretty strong, well hella remind you of the moment you took one

Yeah I get the "asparagus effect" every now and then :)

I just finished my first dozen or so capsules of Modafinil after first learning about it here. All in all I would say its been a quite good experience. My only tip for the peeps is don't gauge your experience on your 1st or second dose. For me these experiences were like a recreational drug, pretty amazing even like "Limitless" a bit. Doses 3 through 5 were actually disappointing, the euphoria and sense of being in control of the universe disappeared and I was anxious, maybe just from being bummed. After that things kind of stabilized and now I just feel more alert and focused like the man says. I will continue using a couple of times a week until I have a holiday from work.

I always stack moda with coffee, and have great results. My emphasis with both is moderation. 100 - 200mg day depending on my sleep cycle + espresso, both in the morning.

that's interesting, as i just read about moda + caffeine on reddit today. someone mentioned using something called 'smart caffeine'. do you know what that is?

Its blend of caffeine and l theaninine from a mob called "Natural Stacks". Not sure about it but it does bring up a good answer - |- thanine - very healthy sustainable way to get energy and its easily available.

A lot of important qs here like how you react to moda in general - if you have any issues with your heart rate or any side effects I'd say reschedule the teeth.

I don't know but they are leaving the business on good grounds it looks like.

EXIT scam.

I don't think so noob.

Oh really Great August One? Then tell me why they are leaving a business they are on top of and pointing everyone to websites which are pretty much identical to what they are bailing on??

Illogical for sure but I don't see how it's take the money and run here.

I just got a charge from a business in Kenya