This is a site that facilitates the purchase of often home made and highly manipulated illegal drugs from around the world that we can’t wait to smoke, vape, eat, dab etc without a second thought as to the conditions in which they have been handled, the actual ingredients or perhaps whose bumhole they have been up whilst at the same time some use it to argue that we mustn’t put anything foreign in to our bodies if it’s in the form of a vaccine as we simply don’t know enough about it.
Anybody else see the irony here??...(insert report on cannabis induced paranoia?)...

https://vladtepesblog.com/2021/05/05/new-interview-with-former-pfizer-vp-dr-michael-yeadon/comment-page-1/

Pro vaccine drs thoughts

i haven't seen a rating system or any kind of direct user feedback on the vaccine. if there is a problem the liability would lie with the authority that controls the system itself, preventing any dispute resolution.

It’s sad to hear that people on here don’t take steps to make sure they don’t buy contaminated cannabis, users could know how to identify clean cannabis and also source from growers on this site. I found when using cannabis from LB I was able to purchase mostly Home grown organic bud from a few vendors Without the risks you speak of PP. Vaccines on the other hand clearly state the ingredients and the risks posed to an individual so it’s not the same is it?

We also have better immunity from things we breathe in and digest as we are constantly breathing in and unknowingly consuming bacteria and pathogens via these routes where we have immunity functions that work constantly to keep us well. The same cannot be said via injections into to the blood. The body wasn’t set up for fighting injected pathogens so well via this route because it’s an unnatural
Way for the body to experience viruses etc

So you are anti all vaccines?....wow...it’s a fascinating viewpoint in that its so mind boggling to me. Just a glance at our human history of overcoming disease is so at odds....oh sod it...I’ve got better things to do. Have a nice day Katy....;)

Not at all (again ASSuming Polls) I have recently requested some single aluminium free vaccines for a family member I just believe in safest and informed medical practice have a nice day :) x

yeah and its only saved the lives of hundreds of millions over the last century or so

And you’ve never read of the risks posed to individuals by the clearly stated ingredients in cannabis and it’s derivatives? Ironically you would probably argue they are mere anti-drug propaganda, effect only a tiny number of users and the benefits of cannabis use far outweigh the risks for the majority of users?
Sound familiar?....seriously- you are in the wrong place....

You mean the ingredients of natural cannabis flower without containments or being handled or up a bum as you put it. Totally different polly as then it is just a natural plant isn’t it?

I hate to shock you but just possibly not everything the seller tells you about the purity of your chosen drugs is necessarily true- but you just choose to believe it.
My point is that there is a certain hypocrisy in using a site to buy illegal mail order drugs of which you know nothing other than the seller tells whilst at the same time declaring your body too much of a temple to take a vaccine and promoting anti vax propaganda... just saying’!

There is a massive difference from the vaccine to the cannabis we smoke. First cannabis has been around for thousands of years and this covid vaccine has just been designed and manufactured as quickly as possible. Future vaccines (and possibly these vaccines) are and will be safe, but the safety of these vaccines have not been proven yet. I took one dose of the oxford astra zeneca vacine and ended up in the hospital. The side effects are horrendous. I dont know of any one that has taken the first dose and not experienced side effects. While the official number is that 26% experience side effects. The oxford vaccine has been plagued with lies and misinformation throughout its research and roll out. They lied to US authorities about its effectiveness. They made mistakes during the trials and gave too much quantity of vaccines to some then a half does on the second and that proved to be more effective. I don't trust the research behind it at all. My job is to review research papers and I've had a look at the astrazeneca research publication and feels like its been put together by an undergrad with low marks. Full of spelling mistakes and whole paragraphs that don't make sense. People just blindly trust very dodgy research. I trust the dodgiest seller on this website more that the astra zeneca teams. I cant speak for other vaccines as I have not reviewed their publications. But I have been telling my family to avoid the astra zeneca vaccine at all costs. We will be hearing about the sort comings of this vaccine for many years to come yet. I am sure there will be government inquiries that will go no where. It is all about making money, first by opening up the economy again and then selling these vaccines to dodgy governments all over the world. This is not anti vaccine propaganda, vaccines are responsible for eradicating horrific diseases, but no vaccine in the history of the world has been developed like these, and no vaccine has been taken by most of the worlds adult population. I am sure the 2nd versions of these vaccines will be much better and safer, but the oxford vaccine is still unproved and their research is questionable at best.

Sorry to hear about your problems man (although since you put it out there I am going to have to bust your stats and be your first person to report zero effects from the AZ- sorry!).
I don’t disagree with a lot of your points. I hate what I believe to be a highly manipulated narrative by utterly incompetent governments and authorities. I hate the fact that the rule book that is rigidly applied to prospective medicines for cancer and heart disease etc has been ripped up for COVID and damn the consequences.
My point has always been that a site where we all come to buy mail order illegal drugs is hardly the best forum for this debate.

It’s very soon to say you’ve gotten away with out any effects, but I hope your right :) I read people that have had the Az are advised not to fly due to the blood clots!

OK,but it’s also too soon to say if your exhibited paranoia doesn’t develop into full blown cannabis induced psychosis along roughly the same time line, but I hope not :) I’ve read that you shouldn’t fly with psychosis!
Let’s just agree that it’s a scary world out there and we need to hold on tight, and stay high. (oops)..

https://www.globalresearch.ca/vaccine-researcher-admits-big-mistake-says-spike-protein-dangerous-toxin/5746715

So sorry to hear this ❤️ Hope your ok x

I started asking questions because a friend of mine had the Pfizer and she can Stick a magnet to her vaccine site like lots of other people who are not anti vax or C theorists

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lYi3sjRZviA

Apparently they set off emf readers and wall scanners too! I’m hoping it’s limited to the Pfizer vaccine only

Can you please stop spouting this utter rubbish. I honestly despair.

I will tell my friend to stick herself to the fridge and keep quiet

I'll tell you what - if your friend can prove this, I'll give them £5,000, and I'll give you £5,000 too.

I get to set the parameters the required evidence though.

Agreed?

My that was a quick turn around from the top of this thread! :)

I don’t need anymore money atm but thank you x

Well, what a surprise!

in the nicest way, maybe you should tell your friend to stop bullshitting!!

did it occur to you that aluminium is not magnetic?

I didn’t say what is causing it I have no idea, aluminium is in some childhood vaccines and has caused harm to animals and humans when studied in trials

PMSL! you have actually seen a magnet stick to your mates arm????

Well I was consuming mostly organic home grown and I knew it was true as a year on here has shown me the difference a lot of people are able to tell what is clean cannabis and how it’s grown by the taste and appearance burn quality etc. Homegrown from vendors that smoke it is quite a safe bet I imagine. I don’t consume cannabis anymore so it’s not an issue for me. I guess it’s best not to assume as we all know what that makes :)

I’d like to keep myself safe.

What steps did you take to ensure what you got was what was promised and not contaminated in any way?

I imagine this information would be really useful to all us Biggas who so far just go on trust/ instinct/ experience.

I'm mighty fwking interested in seeing this also. Saying that anyone been selling this person any trips lately sorry but when I see this magnetic arm I'll believe it ✌️

we all know it total bollocks!

maybe the OP has realised theyve been called out and have zero to back up their BS statments apart from BS youtube videos.

does this differ in anyway from the predicted side effects number?

Wtf is this shit lol

Pfizer’s own documents state adverse reactions can occur by touching or sharing air with vaccinated people

https://media.tghn.org/medialibrary/2020/11/C4591001_Clinical_Protocol_Nov2020_Pfizer_BioNTech.pdf?fbclid=IwAR1UlnuUJTDxJ7_EkdzgRQmQqICo9Y-pzjC1qY7LxSXkxKd5WUWo95SUIrw

That's not what Pfizer are saying. It's a paper on the safety and efficacy of their trial covid vaccine. Your screenshot is page 68 but page 67 gives more information about what to do in the case of exposure to the trial vaccine if pregnancy occurs. The top of your screenshot is a continuation of an example of being exposed to the vaccine (not vaccinated people) by inhalation or skin contact ( presumably vial breaks, spillage) and then pregnancy occurs. In no way, shape or form does it "state adverse reactions can occur by touching or sharing air with vaccinated people." Not having a go Katy, just letting you know that whoever gave you this (mis)information is wrong.

Thank you it’s seems a bit unclear, but I’m more than happy if I’m wrong about it <|:)

It states here about exposure after study intervention has ceased so not sure how that is possible from a vial breaking?

The exposure after study intervention is because it is still in their system. The exposure by inhalation or skin contact is obviously during the study intervention. Anyway, the point is this is a report on how they conduct a clinical trial, it isn't the results or a conclusion. So I still stand by my earlier remark it does not "state adverse reactions can occur by touching or sharing air with vaccinated people."

Yes your right about the paper isn’t that great to know :) but we don’t actually know do we? As anyone taking the vaccine is still in the trial and by the looks of the paper any one who has ended their trial would still be wise to be cautious about direct contact with their partner in regards to conception, again happy if I’m wrong, but no matter how much you wish to be right the truth is actually no one knows yet

Hi Katy, here's hoping covid goes away and we just have to worry about when the postie arrives with our special packages! I assume that last comment is generic wisdom and not directed at me? You can't "wish to be right" by pointing out an error of interpretation, surely? So yes, wishful thinking for something to be true OR false isn't proof of anything; it goes both ways. I don't agree with the "no one actually knows" type of comment because that is a thought terminating cliché; the person saying this can never be wrong whilst implying they are open minded; very disingenuous!! When will "we know"? 6 months, 1 year, 5 years, 10 years, 50 years? I'm not having a go at your views at all but you could have all the evidence thrown at you (plus a few salty words, going by some biggaz here! :-) ) for each of these time points and if you don't agree, just say "well, no one actually knows". Oh well, end of discussion then! Regarding the cautious about conception comment - again, it is a report on how they conduct a clinical trial, it isn't the results or a conclusion and I'm sure with any scientific trial for any substance it would be wise to avoid conception/pregnancy, it's just common sense (unless it's a contraceptive, I suppose!) This is separate from any advice for taking the (post trial) vaccine, that's for others to decide BUT this paper isn't intended to answer that. I'm only labouring the point because if not, this paper will be used as false/misinterpreted evidence in the future. (Oh, I'm sure it will.) The paper does not "state adverse reactions can occur by touching or sharing air with vaccinated people." In the pursuit of knowledge this "evidence" can be dismissed and we can move on to other evidence. You can't argue against any of this because no one actually knows, do they?... :-)

Pie boy felt the paper meant something different too :) I told him to prepare for insults lol

which you are!

lol

They said on bbc news this week something like only 57% of UK Drs accepted the vaccine, I wonder why!?

Katy do you have a career ? I think you are probably entitled to one or some sort of residential placement where you can be among people you can relate too. I’m only saying this as I feel you are actually quite vulnerable if you believe in what you are saying - there has been so much propaganda around COVID and vaccines fuelled by the way information is presented to us online it’s dangerous.
I work in a hospital along with 3000 + other staff. Do you know how an MRI machine works ? It’s a magnet so powerful it’s hard to fathom, needless to say we don’t have any radiologists stuck to it.
With regards to side effects some of us had a sore arm at the injection site much like my yearly flu jan but not 1 person is suffering any adverse effects.
All of our surgeons, Drs have had their Jab your stats are so far out it’s untrue.
Everyone is entitled to an opinion but this is the most ridiculous thread I’ve read on Little biggy.
Sorry if you see this as harsh but as a medical professional people giving out this crap really get my goat.

hello fellow rad good to see you here!

im also a hospital worker and never been gagged and its not a conspiracy and i had both pzifet doses and im fine and i also had covid in September and it left me with a heart problem.

Katy you need help or you’re a massive sociopath put down the pipe and dont get so obsessed with moron conspiracies on the internet

I said I’m happy to be wrong so can’t be a sociopath anymore than anyone who has got personal about quite a funny subject (magnetic arms, conspiracies etc) I haven’t had the jab so I’m not worried :) as for needing help I think it’s been a tough year for everyone but I’m verified sane I’m sorry to tell you and it’s not for lack of trying to convince anyone I may need a bit of support at times, but I guess that is being human and I’m happy to see such passion and conviction in whatever stance/side that takes

well said

Reminds my of terminator movies when they pin them to electromagnet.
It happened in Rise of the Machines and Genisys. Pretty cool effects, especially in Genesis as John Connor get pulled in layers of particles.
And yeah Katy needs a professional help.

Well the professionals say your wrong so what’s next?..anyone who gets personal and offensive over this clearly needs help

funny you say cause alot of these conspiracies are based from old horror films!

Don’t be sorry, but you could explain why such a reaction? All I said my friend can stick a magnet to her arm or is it because I shared a Pfizer paper? I hope the residential home has enough room for all of us as you sound like you need a break ❤️ If the paper is true I feel I’m probably more vulnerable if I don’t believe it :) We all have choices in life, if your not happy with your job then do something about it and there have been rare cases where people have been injured by MRI scanners and burnt, I did some research and declined one once when I was offered one. That’s not to say no one else should have one, but it’s my body my choice and same to all

I love my job, helping people and making a difference it’s really rewarding thank you, not glamorous in any way but I get to go home feeling like my day was worth it. I don’t know why you would get the impression I don’t love my job.

My reaction was explained in the first post but in a nutshell:

You spouted total crap about doctors refusing vaccines, 43% completely unsubstantiated but such a damaging statement as someone really stupid might believe you !

Your friend can’t stick a magnet to her arm.

Your link below does not work but the document does not appear to be on any reputable site, its also referring to trials/study and pregnancy and even if the documents real it doesn’t actually say it can do you harm, it says it doesn’t know how or if it would effect a fetus/baby develops in the womb which is precautionary and would be the same for any new drug or treatment.

I’m going to leave this here now Katy.

your friend is lying to you!

Care to post a link that story? Let me guess, you can't?

Ah that is a very old comment it was on BBC news as I stated so maybe ask them? I have no need to make up information nor would I be interested in doing so, but I’m not sure how reliable and unbiased the mainstream media is these days so it could well be more funded lies from the bbc? Why not head over to my page for my fascinating findings from unreliable sources like Pfizer themselves on this matter :)

I'd rather not. Anyone who honestly believes that the Pfizer vaccine is magnetic, is really not worth my time.

bullshit katy.

sorry, you're gonna have to back up this codswhallop.

i know drs and quite a few peeps in front line and specialist care, all of whom have been vaccinated.

your stats dont stand up.

your statments are false.

you read sections of docs, misunderstand them and then claim falsehoods.

if you can reference your sources, you are just spouting opinion and feelings and not facts.

and i still wanna see evidence of your mates arm being magnetic, even tho aluminium is not.

so, please, back up your statements with evidence, or stop.

no offence intended, but your comments are nutty.

I don’t HAVE to do anything :) and I never said aluminium was magnetic lol I’m not sure it’s even in this vaccine. However as I said before aluminium as an adjuvant has harmed people and animals. The BBC comment was from the bbc take it up with them and bore off
I wrote it the day I heard it on BBC news and that was about 4 months ago! So of course it’s different now, but you didn’t stop to get all the info either did you? If your happy with your choice why do most of the pro vaxxers seem so scared of a difference of opinion?

We all know what the BBC are into and let's just say their little ring is messed up. Other than that lets take advice from the people that charge us to watch TV when we've been bound by them to the bloody house look magnetic arms or not just leave it be honestly. its bugging my votes dude much respect to LB and community whether your a vaxer or a non vaxer we all get on man ✌️ peace stay safe :)

i wish you well katy....

:)

rubbish

Regarding the first link just bringing some balance:

https://www.publichealth.org/public-awareness/understanding-vaccines/vaccine-myths-debunked/

Mentioning ingredients but not purpose or quantities or assessment of risk is not balanced reporting.

You can also search the ingredients on the yellow card data base to see what reactions have been reported for those ingredients in the quantities they are administered in, it’s some interesting reading to say the least.

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/british-elite-army-unit-spy-combat-anti-vaxxers-sunday-times

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/zero-hedge/

Zero hedge are lunatics lol

Pre covid I think there was something like 2 serious or fatal vaccine reactions a month.

In the UK there have been almost 1000 damage payments made for life changing injuries from vaccines in just under 40 years, the threshold is incredibly high and lots go unreported, so that is an absolute minimum number of people.

Health risks are huge i wont make the vaccination even if its mandatory.

1000 in 40 years!!!! How many vaccinations does that 1000 result from......how many jabs in 40 years? Many, many multiples of millions I'll bet. That is an absolutely minuscule rate of complications....micro minuscule. You need to start quoting all of the relevant data please.....not just cherry picking some half facts to prove your point.

Well done number cruncher, I think my posts refer to some risks for some people and where to find further information on the effects reported for some of the ingredients, why are you so angry?

What, in what I typed above, makes you think I'm angry? Is that what you say to everyone who challenges your posts? Seriously, if you don't want your ill-informed pronouncements held up to public scrutiny and comment maybe you should keep them private? I take this matter seriously and that sometimes requires exclamations marks to be used (NB: this does not denote anger!!)

Yes I must have confused your fear and lack of respect for anger.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33118470/

Well I’ve been vaccinated against polio, TB, tetanus, measles, mumps and rubella, rabies, hep B, Typhoid and probably some others I’ve forgotten.

I have had no lasting side effects (a sore arm is the worst I’ve experienced) and I’m djsisbsosb.... did hahah do... dishsusib....

Fuck, what I’m trying to say is.... sdskkkksoo.... sosjjjjjsi.... bahaiiijj

My brain works just fine. No side effects, nothing to see here!

Lol we will never know what you could have been x

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21568886/

Aluminium in vaccines has been shown to cause harm to humans and animals

Arse site ! Read that fucking disclaimer first.
Covid vaccines are not even listed there that paper is from 2000fucking12 !!!

Milfy, the only thing for it is to move to Asia and bang hot feminine Asians, two or three at a time. Anything else would be stupid.

These ingredients can be searched in the yellow card data base for reporting of adverse reactions to medicines, you used to be able to research the products now you have to look up each ingredient

Dreading to think about what if the government says we all must have the vaccine in order to fly out.

They are trying to make them mandatory in Parliament as we speak.........

F sake.

It`s already been agreed in poland........

Well , God help everyone

The problem with the anti Vax movement is lack of a suggested alternative. How am I supposed to clean my carpets?

Brilliant LMFAO :-)

I'm not in any anti vax movement m8 , and I haven't got the answer I'm not a doctor, what I am saying is I don't want to put on my body something that its most likely coming with side effects that we don't know yet.

It wasn't personal it was supposed to be a pun to highlight a point in a light hearted way. Just brush it off and have a smoke. :-)

Lol m8 ok , my English ain't that good lol. But I hope you understand my meaning, this vaccination is not such a good idea.

Not true

Can we add magnets, emfs and pieces of metal to the list as the Pfizer jab site has been witnessed to set off wall scanners, emf devices and are also magnetic! :o

The line is mandatory vaccination, irrespective of personal stance on safety. Any authority attempting to cross this line will long since have lost legitimacy, if it ever held it to begin with.
The belief of any such authority to be able to do so is imagined, and at this line, uniforms are no more than costumes.
Each Man and Woman is His or Her own Authority. The rights that are theirs, not bestowed upon them by other Men or Women, cannot be taken from them by other Men or Women, irrespective of the capacity, or authority, in which they imagine themselves to be operating. Any belief to the contrary is simply conditioning.

❤️

Information regarding safety of covid-19 vaccine

https://hpv-vaccine-side-effects.com/covid-19-vaccine-side-effects-world-map/

So many people are dying unnecessarily from this vaccine, it’s not even been proven to be safe yet! The more I find out the more I’m not at all surprised they’ve delayed the second round of this nightmare.

Where are you getting you info?

Increasing number of people dying after being vaccinated and some Drs acknowledging that the vaccine is likely to cause a reaction to further doses of the same vaccine as the body is being coded to fight against that which is being injected again. Best of luck with whatever you decide for your body random Joe!

Yeah, that doesn't actually show causation - just a very weak correlation (in your view I think...not mine). There are so many variables to consider, that to look at that graph and reach the conclusion that the vaccine is driving this is a massive leap. Go and read some proper statistics on the profile of this disease. 2.06 million dead worldwide. Circa 1.7 before the vaccine rollout. If you are seriousness saying the vaccine is driving deaths you need to learn more about trend analysis.

It’s a possibility,

the ingredients, the science and now emerging data shows it’s highly likely some people are dying from the vaccines, yes not everyone, we both know that.

Pre vaccine, there were also huge numbers of avoidable deaths so people aren’t currently able to make an informed choice about risks vs benefits, it is looking like the very people likely to die from covid are the same people likely to die from the vaccine sadly.

“Frail patients are being advised not to get the vaccine due to numbers of them dying following vaccination and it being linked to the cause of their deaths”

I would also advise anyone to find non bias information on the effects of this medical intervention, by researching the ingredients, the past related trials and the science behind what it does to our body. There are numbers of Scientific and Medical staff now speaking up about the likely risks posed by this intervention.

I think everyone deserves to make an informed choice

Where would you suggest I source the non-biased information that you recommend I read?

Start with uncensored search engines and information platforms, if your a bit nicer to milfhunter you may actually find this topic informative rather than offensive

Best of luck with whatever you are trying to achieve if it’s within the LB guidance to do no harm

What would your reaction be to the attached link? Believe in the original claim or the fact check results? I'm genuinely interested in how people reach their opinions.

I was referring to the cases and guidance given in Norway, I’ve made my decision not to have the vaccine based on Scientific evidence I believe shows it could be harmful in the long term.

I had an adverse reaction to a flu vaccine in 2014 and was admitted to hospital with breathing problems for over a week, my daughter also had an adverse reaction to her first vaccine which I told the nurse I was unsure about her having and she has a friend that has a life long lasting effect following a routine vaccine.

From what I experience with how differently I feel about managing decisions in comparison to how the government acts, gives me the freedom to search for more information regarding their advice and statistics and question mainstream media information.

It’s helpful to look at their affiliations, past agendas/connections and any funding or financial incentives when navigating sources of information.

If you use a search engine with more freedom such as duckduckgo to look up information and search covid vaccines on brand new tube you will easily find medics and scientists speaking out about the vaccine as well as people that have been injured from taking it, most of the videos have been removed from other platforms I believe due to their affiliations

You need to start adding the word "allegedly" to all the claims you are making above. None of this is supported by peer reviewed science, which if you don't know is how scientists decide on the 'real' truth (as opposed to the fake "truth' peddled by fringe experts like the discredited Andrew Wakefield) making videos on you tube and passing if off at the "real truth". As the vaccines are rolled out and more time passes the data may change and the wider scientific community may also raise concerns. We are a country mile off that point yet, with tens of thousands still dying each day from Covid 19 worldwide and yet there you are making statements based on 'intuition' - I'm glad you aren't responsible for my health decisions. When you get on a plane do you insist on flying it? Of course not, because you aren't qualified to do it properly. The same applies here.

That’s ok Random Joe, but I’m sharing my views on the information not making a legal statement.

I’m glad we have different opinions that is real life, don’t be scared of that

My life has been much better since I’ve been drawing on my past experiences and listening to my intuition to make decisions

I’m open to sharing and exchanging information and opinions, it’s not my interest to change peoples thinking that’s up to them if they so wish.

Not really answering my question but that's ok. Have a smoke and enjoy your day.

I explained how I reach my opinions which you claimed was of interest to you.

I believe sources of information being credited should be down to personal discretion depending on the links the source of information is connected to and wether it’s from a first person experience or a company etc.

I think it’s naive to believe any information source is always going to be right or wrong, that will kill your ability engage in critical thinking.

Do you know the affiliations, sources and funding for your link? That plus your experience and intuition should help give you an indication of wether you can believe in it for yourself, I’m not going to comment on my opinion as it’s for everyone to make their own minds up.

If your struggling to tune into your gut feelings then maybe lay off the hand sanitiser

Thanks. I can see how you react to a counter claim now. Have a nice day.

Yes read my post again, I said look at the source of the info and make up your own mind, what did you want me to say?

I’m not hear to argue just to share stuff, I think I said it’s for you to decide what you feel about it, that information isn’t of much interest to me as it seems vague and bias, here is a link from your website for its trustees, from a quick scan of the information it’s mostly people in media, finance, law etc where as I would personally look for information from various Medical and scientific sources if I was making a decision regarding information on vaccines

Thanks. This discourse has been insightful. Have a great day.

If you are going to share the unsupported ravings of the conspiracy fraternity on here you'd better get ready for some arguments.... unless free speech only applies when it's coming out of your ass?

It really is a waste of time. I have a friend like this....he's fully down the rabbit hole. Any reputable facts pointed out to Consipracists are met with - "you cant trust the Govt, main- stream media, big pharma, the great reset", etc etc etc. It's a debate that can't be won. I've given up talking to him about it as it's making me wonder how he's been taken in by all this flannel!

These comments get all mixed up all over the place. Wish they had dates on them! :-)

I feel that the truth is somewhere in between,

for me the questions and voids I was left with from
Main stream media and politics, I found some could be made sense of by looking at a middle ground between conspiracies and corruption.

“Frail patients are being advised not to get the vaccine due to numbers of them dying following vaccination and it being linked to the cause of their deaths” - please quote your source

If you’ve followed my advice above and you haven’t found it let me know

There you go again confusing correlation with causation....if you do that your whole life you'll reach a lot of bad conclusions!

Or find information to consider and look into further?

I reach conclusions from many different ways of researching and also using my intuition and experiences

my conclusions are also unfixed and open to change and growth from new information luckily

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/humans-are-free/

Read this and then see if you still believe what they are reporting

https://www.foxnews.com/health/coronavirus-outbreak-ny-nursing-home-32-dead-report

an update 2 days later from original link.

That doesn't state the deaths were due to the vaccine as humansarefree infers....which is the crucial point no? The numbers dead (if true) is one thing....the reason for their demise is another. Humansarefree suggest the deaths were due to the vaccine. Can you share a reputable source which confirms this? If not it's just more conspiracy stories....

Those that are able to see beyond the shadows and lies of their culture will never be understood let alone believed by the masses. - Plato

Nice quotation but I don't think that's winning any debates is it? I'll trade with you though;

"The main thing that I learned about conspiracy theory, is that conspiracy theorists believe in a conspiracy because that is more comforting. The truth of the world is that it is actually chaotic. The truth is that it is not The Iluminati, or The Jewish Banking Conspiracy, or the Gray Alien Theory. The truth is far more frightening - Nobody is in control. The world is rudderless.”
― Alan Moore

The real conspiracy theorists believe that the government cares about them, The media would never
mislead or lie to them and the pharmaceutical industry that make billions off sickness wants to cure them.

Interesting slant there but a really lazy over simplification (which I'd expect from a TRUE conspiracy theorist). Of course pharmaceutical firms want to make money off their products - that's how capitalism works. Off course sometimes the media misrepresents things, but at least they are regulated (unlike www.deepstate.com) and the Govt, well they just want your taxes but in return you get free education, health care, law enforcement, stability etc. it's not perfect but the better alternative is yet to arrive. What's your theory then? That every single epidemiologist, virologist and public health expert are all in cahoots to pull the wool over the eyes of us regular folks just so big pharma can make some money. Seriously, if the science actually supported these half baked Coivd conspiracies no one in the world could keep that story secret. Next you'll be telling me you believe in 'the great reset'!

In an age of information, Ignorance is a choice.

That's all you've got isn't it....dear oh dear.

It seems quite obvious that you haven`t.