I just stay away from Cali branded shit !
So for me is rather off putting than advertising lol.

Yep. Great big red flag

Hear hear.

Yep me too.

All fake or black market brand posing as legit liek ten ten co and loads more. none are really legit cali brands. They are all black market hyped up brands to sell in UK. grown in Spaina nd organised crime units. With no love or care and the ppl buying it are liek spell bound or making monies out of of it all.

Essentially, you can 'claim' anything. In the cryptoverse there is really no way to prove anything. If people choose to buy 'Cali' weed online, they take the rough with the smooth as far as I'm concerned. It's the buyers responsibility to follow up and ask questions of the vendor. It's up to the vendor to address any buyers' objections. This may be done with or without proof. It's then up to the buyer to decide if the vendor stands up to scrutiny or not. Banning the term 'Cali' essentially opens up a can of worms. Buyer beware and sellers back up your claims. It's simple as that. I won't risk 'Cali' weed because I cannot verify it. Seems like a pretty simple and logical buying methodology. Belief is down to you. Proof is the vendor's business.

Definitely, nobody is forced to buy anything and it's up to the buyer to determine what represents value for money to them

I think "cali" often means its a cali strain. But those who claim to be importing....umm....ive lost friends on LB for calling BS on that one may times hahaha

I've never purchased any of these strains, but that they are an option seems only a good thing. There will be people that take advantage of that, just like there already is with any other claim of a weeds origin, or even strain, but it also allows the real deal to be sold.

I think we should be left to make that decision ourselves, not have them removed, which will be the result of a ban on claiming its origin, as that is what commands its price. There are so many options here, that no one needs to pay those prices for that weed, real or otherwise. My 2c.

Yeah anyone can share a pic of weed and says it's cali or Dutch purely to charge more

I agree. Though I know juggle boys have barcodes you can scan to check its theirs

Oh god, don't get someone started on that barcode stuff, apparently it's super easy to fake! lol
Don't see why some people are so intent on vexing about this topic; use your common sense, you're either willing to pay premium or not, chat to the seller and see if you're comfortable laying the wedge, and worst case dispute it if you think it's fake / you've been misled.
Banning terminology, ffs, where does it end? There's always going to be people trying to mug you off, be sensible and you probably won't get burned.
Peace and love biggas
PS don't be that guy and shit post on established vendors when you haven't even purchased the product!

In a nutshell right there! 👍

Ban the term "import" and "Cali" etc. unless it can be proven that it is indeed imported from California.

Yes this is the only way to cut out the bullshit

If you buy a bottle of Champagne in Tescos what PROOF do you demand to see that it came from France?…that label could be a fake so they can charge more?
Ever had an imported beer?…maybe you haven’t- maybe it was made in my garage….

Alcohol from tesco is alot more regulated than bud off littlebiggy though 🤷🏼‍♂️

The amount of artificial ingredients and sugar in a lot of alcoholic drinks is unreal. Plus however regulated alcohol is, it’s still a carcinogen whatever dress it comes in.

Tbf I don't think you can compare a regulated market with an unregulated market. Purchasing from an established company, I would imagine, it's more likely to be authentic because there's accountability. You could also ask the producer to provide proof. But of course it's not foolproof, nothing is, and there will always be knock offs.

And I'm sure some "Cali" and other "import" strains on here are genuine. But I'm also sure there are lots of false listings which, frankly, are scams as they falsely justify charging ridiculous prices that take advantage of people.

That was really my point. It would be hard enough in a regulated market to get proof- we just take a leap of faith. In an unregulated i.e illegal market, we take a GIANT leap of faith so demanding proof is frankly ridiculous. Just try it….

100%

Might as well ban claims of organic or grown in living soil too. If a vendor is making big claims then a potential customer should do some serious vetting before deciding to part with the coin.

is there any opposition to this?

Opposition is a strong word but...

Why single out Cali? Is Dutch going too? Morrocan or Thai?
How about Organic?

They're giving buyers some idea of what to expect.
The bigger the claim the bigger the spanking if the drop doesn't match.

I agree HMT. I've been happily, every now and again, been ordering 'Cali'. V pricey, yes. If it isn't 'cali' I'm pretty happy as its been v good quality IMHO.
Just taken the plunge with a newish but well respected LB vendor on some $130-ish an 1/8 Cali (nice bag and everything!)
At worst I'll still be $130 worse off but with some weed. In these times I'll take that as a general result in life. Maybe I'll be pissed off for a day or two but that'll be it.
Anyway, I'm rambling now.
Not sure if 'Cali' claims should be banned. let the reviewers tell the tale.....

100%

yes if the name is thrown around enough it becomes a generic term which thai certainly is.

Yeah I'm opposed to it, I find it ludicrous that it's such a big thing that people are making threads over it. If your not interested scroll past. Oh and I'm gonna put a proper thread up later but it appears using the cannverify app that the Cali I got today is actually from California. As for the codes being easy to fake one Reddit post (which is all the proof I have seen so far) does not a 100% factual statement make. So yeah I'm opposed to this suggestion ;)

Is that the 'fake' stuff from The Gentlemen? Seems legit to me...

Yup it's the stuff that was declared 100% fake in another thread

Hi
Hope you're well DEADRABB1T
All the Jungle Boyz we sell have been declared real by our customers on here.
We don't sell fake and not here to rip NO 1 off.
Can anyone suggest how to prove to people that the cali is really?
Because we are willing to provide any evidence anyone wants to see!!!
This topic is been going on for over a year on here and it's not fair on us when genuinely we are trying our best to provide the best strains and service on here.
So if anyone has any ideas how to prove let us know .
Thanks ❤ Peace
TGD

I've found a company called WEDINOS based in Cardiff that offer a potency analysis.
Only problem is how do the customers know that their delivery will be the same strain that was sent for testing?
It looks possible but without a test being done for every order then it's inevitable that the trolls will claim illegitimacy.

I'm familiar with Wedinos and I'm pretty sure they don't establish purity. It's just a standard GCMS analysis.

Ok thanks, I was under the impression that THC was calculated too

I'm afraid not. Their main priority is finding fake rolls and increasingly fent related. They do cannabis,but only to confirm THC etc and not strength/purity- sadly. This is a growth field though.So,things are improving rapidly

Ok fair enough I'll keep my eyes peeled

Thanks for the idea but am getting few parcels a month from cali.
And it would be hard to send them every strain to check because by time results come back my next load will be here.
Thanks 😊

Exactly, the idea is good but the logistics would be a nightmare!

LOL

I really feel for you guys- you bust a gut to bring us some fantastic JB strains and the jealous haters who probably just can’t afford it rip into you like that’s your fault!
“PROOF! PROOF!!” ….I mean FFS!…if you are really that sceptical then don’t buy it, easy, there are over 500 options on this site alone!
Leave it for those of us happy to buy and stop pissing on our parade!

Thanks mate
It's cool because our Cali customer know its really .
Just haters and trolls .
Every few weeks the same topic starts .
Maybe we should all get together book a venue and I'll bring all my strains and Everyone's just gets F××king high on the house .
🤗🔥🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳

Honestly at this point you could book private flights to California, arrange for the doubters to be met at jungle boys hq and watch the bags be filled and the doubters will still be saying stuff like

"They brought the bud over with them" or "were not really in California this is Rotherham" etc

Last time I was in Tescos I called out the the Manager as a lying thieving cockwomble because he couldn’t provide me absolute PROOF that their obviously fake Dom Perignon 2003 came from France. How can they make these claims when it’s so easy to fake labels? Only idiots would buy it so I started smashing the bottles. That showed the wankmuffins….

My case comes up on Thursday….

🤣🤣🤣 LOL your bang on right.

💥Boom💥. 😉👍

Guys sorry my post has a heavy /s on it if it wasn't clear

As I linked the cannverify to the jungle boys pack I had off you

And was from the start of the year

I 100% believe that what I received was genuinely jungle boys 👍👍

As for proving it's impossible if the method that would typically be used eg cannverify is being cast into doubt. Even if the doubters are unable to actually provide proof that it's comprised 🤷🏻 it's a flat earth situation I fear for the non Cali believers

No problem it's cool.
If anyone has any ideas let us know and we will provide what ever it is .
Hope all is well wrap up and stay warm the snow is coming .
Love ❤ TGD

Don’t fall for this scammer.

Bro I bought from TGD and they sent me fake zushi. It wasn’t even close to the real deal. I’ve had blue zushi hundreds of times and I’ve had it directly in CA from the actual dispensary. TDG sent me fake zushi, then fucked around with escrow. I’ll get my money back but he’s not as genuine as he comes across.

If he had admitted what he done then I wouldn’t even bother calling him out. But he’s not legit.

He’s downvoting ALL of my comments. TDG is salty and a scammer LOL

bro you don’t even know what Cali is, you were selling fake blue zushi.

Jungle Boys come pre sealed so it’s not possible for you to fake it unless you’re paying for the bags, which is too much hassle.

But the rest of your shit is fake, I actually ordered from you and now you wanna ask people how to prove if it’s Cali? By selling the real thing and not ripping people off

as someone who lists almost exclusively cali i feel bummed out. I don't think in over 5.5k reviews a single person has disputed the claim, the quality is pretty obvious.

maybe thats why i'm so far down the wall now :(

Explains why your buds are brilliant. They mostly come from Cali quality is definitely there
Definitely some off the best buds on here

Yea the algorithm has changed again hasn't it, cause I only LB to buy chocolate and 510 vapes 🤔

No idea what's going on at the moment but it's a bit silly imo

Yes! It’s nonsense…Cali is some great weed and I want the opportunity to buy it!….all the Cali I have bought on here has been great!

bigg up

It’s a shame so much fake Cali as it means the real ones can’t be trusted as well

I would completely agree this would solve many problems, just looking through and there are some really amazing newish sellers but they are right at the bottom below all the "Cali" too which seems unfair.

Ban ban ban if you ask me, charging a premium for something and not having to supply any real proof (for opsec obviously) leaves way too much room for cheeky beggars.

We have to agree with you sir. We sell shake but have been taken off the wall.

Your shake to smoke is very good but just because your not on the wall doesn't mean you should support the above posters. It's more likely that the products you vend are niche and due to that and the lower engagement you get on posts because of the goods will likely translate into no wall time. Have you considered perhaps offering a budget conscious but less shaky and more bud like offer as that's something LB could always do more with (in my opinion)

Whoever the first clown in the uk was to pay 100 quid for an 8th just cos it came in a tuna tin needs a slap

Not all cali claims are fake I bought this cart with tracking from California

such a vendor will benefit from a bit of appellation d'origine contrôlée

we have dropped this because the wonderwall algorithm appears to be compensating for cali claims now..

Which is ridiculous!

Here here boris. Couldn’t agree more.

Just my opinion, but I pay little attention to the cali slogan usage on here. I am more concerned with a vendor and product rating. The best marker on here are the reviews, then I go by what I can afford vs what I would like to try/buy. There are some prices on here that means I will never go near that product and if I do try that vendor it doesn’t fill me with great confidence that I will be getting anything decent if it is the lower end of that expensive vendors product lines. To be honest I wouldn’t care if it came from the bottom of my backyard as long as it stones me nicely and is smooth and has good flavour…you don’t need cali or import for that…end of the day it is buyer choice what you buy and also seller choice what is sold and how it is sold. It’s business, so if it’s too pricey and no good, eventually people will go elsewhere….no one wants to be ripped off

Anyone stupid enough to buy an 8th for $100 or more deserves to be diddled. There is undoubtably some fake Cali weeds on here as well as some genuine imports but I leave it all well alone thanks to the prices.

Have always thought this as ppl charge premium prices for cali. Some ppl buy cali as it is seen as dispensary quality stuff. So they don't want to put anything in their bodys and trust sellers thinking theyre buying superior qwaulity product less harmful to health.

It's simply a matter of semantics.

There are barcodes and serial numbers on legitimate cali packs. Though, I guess even those could be refilled and resealed. But any cali pack without dates/serial numbers are fakes.

Not necessarily true, I have a mate in [retracted] that drives to Cali and buys Cali in bulk, they don't even come packed, just loose buds, so honestly it's hard to know whether something is legit or not when it comes to flowers.

Referring to cali packs mate. Clearly wont be dates and serial numbers on loose buds come on lol

Fairs, lol

But even then it's easy to fake all that too.

It's well annoying and makes small and test purchases well expensive !

By having LTC option this would be fairly mitigated though, so let's usher transaxe to set up the LTC wallet.

This just causes unnecessary stress to the buyers. I hope a resolution will be found soon as I see a lot of people complaining about the payment system for a number of reasons which can push away buyer from buying online.

appreciate you putting this up here, this needs to be seen asap and followed up on asap, or if not at least someone who has any authority on here can they please communicate with us and let us know either way?

needed to order today but this whole situation has just stopped me from doing so, i simply can't afford to just round up by £4 on one, sometimes two orders per week! it's actually extortion at this point and after almost 2 years on here i'll no longer be reccomending this site to mates and will take my money somewhere else if this isn't sorted promptly, also noticed in another thread on this subject it was mentioned that someone could be making a looot of money from this 'admin error' of not adding the extra digit and just rounding it up, i'm not sure how that would work exactly but if that is the case, that is concerning!

only the seller can make money on the rounding, they get the release from whatever the buyer pays.

The round up thing still being like that is a bit ridiculous to be honest.

Just realised this also means the options for postage are £4, £8, £12 etc you can't pay anything inbetween and nothing less than £4 no matter what the seller actually wants to charge (unless it's free ofc!).

This does the sellers a disservice as well as the buyers and all the extra couple of quids being rounded up here and there will turn people away.

💯 agree with you all, I’m a frequent buyer and it really stacks up.

hell yes

Describe LB. Happy to design something if given some direction of what LB is, what it stands for. Is there an existing logo/imagery?

Big up to Super Hans for leading the charge on this, I'm sure that if more vendors publicly support this, the borgs will have to move quickly and hopefully put their foot to the floor on this initiative. It is a win/win for everyone involved.

As the GOAT once said "modern problems require modern solutions."

The borgs don't give a dam about win/win unfortunately SteveFrench we are all at the mercy of the markets and big swings all year long in the Crypto. It would also help if vendors can get paid quickly so they could protect their monies from the huge price swings.

I Think XMR would be more suitable.
It's made to be the most secure cryptocurrency out there, less traceable. Very stable compared to every coin apart from USDT. Fee's are sky high because the price is constantly moving, especially on weekends.

yeah originally i was wanting monero as it is literally digital, private cash and has something in the code where fees go DOWN as more transactions are put through. But many buyers said they couldn't buy it so I went with the crypto which is 2nd most available after BTC. In reality we should have both and everyone should be allowed to make a choice like many other markets allow

Agreed XMR would cost 500k $ to track a transaction which is deffo too much for someone to look for you. Especially in somewhere like LB where your crypto is swimming in a big pool of other crypto. However a more reliable crypto should be available as an option

Monero or Zcash seems the 2 obvious ones ot use as they are privacy coins or btc layer 2 type tech...

I doubt it will happen, what is the financial incentive for the website?

💯

Yeah definitely need a stock feature, as a new vendor I'm relatively confused at the fact that over ordering is a problem as many other marketplaces have functioning stock options.

How is this not a thing??? Genuinely I thought this post was from ages ago but as of 11/12/21 I understand that LB still doesn't have this 🤷🏻 anyhow I cant fix it as I'm a 🐰

It used to be an option on the old site but it didn't actually work. I'd rather it was removed than be there and not work to be honest. Wasn't much fun waking up and realising you'd oversold a product by 2oz overnight and having to send messages and refunds out all over the place to disappointed customers, because you assumed LB would stop selling the item when you told it to.

I doubt they'll bother adding it again, we can't even get a second crypto option on here so I won't be holding my breath for a working stock control.

Cheers BB 😊👍

Arguments For
upvote here for the initiative

When you make any post you are speaking in public. I don't see why your other public statements should be hidden, they are also public statements. As for others statements on you that is a primary mechanism of accountability here. Is there anything else on the page?

Maybe some kind of "context throttle" so you can't just dive into a person's life's posts if people feel sensitive about this but the real issue is vote throttling so access is not abused.

I think just a switch, close your page and then all your posts across the site are invisible so if someone has a panic they have this control switch. I'm sure that it can be abused but it need not be a permanent also a kind of throttle.

Funk shway, This is a great idea! Perfect compromise.

I see folks shitposting and hiding. Their victims are often sellers that can't hide nor can they retaliate. It's an invitation for trouble as this community grows.

I agree, as a self policing community we all inevitably become a police department. Like any cop I'm lazy and would rather have intrinsic crime prevention than get all into some petty domestic case.

I think all the resistance against this is really 1 thing: people don't want to get posted ON, they don't want to be the subject of posts because it doesn't seem to have much utilty besides getting trolled on.

How about an initiative to clean up the initiative format?

yes someone needs to take the initiative on this

what does it take to make this happen?

Yes!

Arguments Against
upvote here against the initiative

Just make thei author's links appear colorless/dead, that will be accurate and it says something about the author that deserves disclosure to readers.

littlebiggy should only record orders from registered users.

this would make a better name for the initiative, noobs will misinterpret what you have as a call for legacy identities.