My opinion on matters like this are not worth 5p, but the timing of covid being in similar time frame to the UK leaving the EU does seem convenient. Seems like the East trying to destabilize the west. Im sure it would be in Chinas interest for the whole EU to collapse. Also UK and London being the financial capital and the UK suffering worse economical damage than any other EU country shortly after agreeing to leave the EU just seems incredible timing. Couldve randomly occured 6.4 years ago, but randomly occured shortly after the beginning of the EU starting to dissolve. And again nobody is disputing this virus came from china and its timing is so outrageously perfect as to is its target. Dont know anything, just smells a bit fishy.
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is the coronavirus bio warfare?

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doctor doc
is the coronavirus bio warfare?
if there is a simple effective way to win the economy back from china this it. the technology is there, the motive and so is the will in the american government.

Psy op.

Where've you been smokes!? Hey! :)

All is well. I've Busy with work n' all. Hope you're okay :)

Glad to hear you are good :) Yep, all good here dude! Nice to see you back :)

New world order.
Goal - population under 500,00,000
Time frame - 100 yrs
How to achieve?
Release a virus that scares the world into hiding.
Wait until it spreads globally, killing the elderly and sick in wave one.
Produce a vaccine within a year, that offers people hope of a return to normality, without fear!
Vaccine designed to sterilize 80% of population.
In the mean time, allow virus to reach up to 8 waves before population has been completely vaccinated.
I mean....if i was to theorize.... ;)
Goal - population under 500,00,000
Time frame - 100 yrs
How to achieve?
Release a virus that scares the world into hiding.
Wait until it spreads globally, killing the elderly and sick in wave one.
Produce a vaccine within a year, that offers people hope of a return to normality, without fear!
Vaccine designed to sterilize 80% of population.
In the mean time, allow virus to reach up to 8 waves before population has been completely vaccinated.
I mean....if i was to theorize.... ;)

I certainly wont have any vaccination for sure. I wager though the governments will make it passive aggressive mandatory. What i mean by that is they probably wont make the jab law, but ibet eventually those that decline the jab will be forbidden from foreign travel or something similar. I guess covid is their way of stopping global warming.

I got the vaccine because it’s specifically for COVID-19, I don’t get the flu jab because that really is some one picking 5 strains at random for the pharms Xmas bonus

depends... if djt is re-elected then yes. if Biden/democratx then no. democrats love chinas money. sell-out central.
china has been open about wanting to be the supreme world superpower. they pay-off everyone, in every facet.
national self-sufficiency is the base line. trade is the gravy. those are the foundations of stability. it's common sense.
bio-warfare is available as we've experienced. c19 is lab-derived corona rna with hiv sequences inserted and affinity enabled. if this was originally an accident then it was certainly weaponised. the good and the bad of biowar is that it is essentially nuclear-level as at today.
china has been open about wanting to be the supreme world superpower. they pay-off everyone, in every facet.
national self-sufficiency is the base line. trade is the gravy. those are the foundations of stability. it's common sense.
bio-warfare is available as we've experienced. c19 is lab-derived corona rna with hiv sequences inserted and affinity enabled. if this was originally an accident then it was certainly weaponised. the good and the bad of biowar is that it is essentially nuclear-level as at today.

It would make sense for the Americans to start it off in china and overplay the number of deaths added to the fear and isolation and every person in the west is ready to boycott china or even war. Makes you think when all the countries suffering most deaths are usa, uk, italy, spain and france. They have never fought together before ?.. someone dies of a heart attack in the uk, do you think they will waste their very rare tests. Just write it as corona, Helps in multiple ways. Politicians are nuts. You never know! All I know is I only barely scraped through secondary school and I was saying shut down all flights from china to any country weeks before they even started reporting about what was happening in China on tv. It was all over twitter for months before. Just like trump said china cant hit the hong kong protesters and it was all over our tvs but macrons goons were beating the feck out of decent french people and our tvs showed nothing. Thank fuck we have weed in this crazy world

fuck the lockdown,fuck the system, fuck the virus. if you have a different opinion I respect it, so respect mine.

bio warfare/public health research fuck up
or
malicious shit dropped w cover of lab?
when you cant trust government to not kill people anyway does it matter?
or
malicious shit dropped w cover of lab?
when you cant trust government to not kill people anyway does it matter?

This explains a lot!
https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/31/covid-19-overcoming-testing-challenges/?fbclid=IwAR1ikMtfYusDqZ0Gmideh1d4C5fTMbSjvMuKlS1MpN0yf6ZGJq6ogaPXhUE
https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/31/covid-19-overcoming-testing-challenges/?fbclid=IwAR1ikMtfYusDqZ0Gmideh1d4C5fTMbSjvMuKlS1MpN0yf6ZGJq6ogaPXhUE

I commented before, but this time i'll just add some links.
They've been doing hella lot of research on corona viruses and enhancing potency of the viruses. Their research was US funded.
All the information is there is you look.
They've been isolating bat corona and seeing the infectiousness since 2000!
They also mention that the ageing population would be most affected.
And all of these studies are from 5 years ago.
It is a financial plan and a way to change civil liberty.
Period.
They've been doing hella lot of research on corona viruses and enhancing potency of the viruses. Their research was US funded.
All the information is there is you look.
They've been isolating bat corona and seeing the infectiousness since 2000!
They also mention that the ageing population would be most affected.
And all of these studies are from 5 years ago.
It is a financial plan and a way to change civil liberty.
Period.


https://www.nature.com/news/engineered-bat-virus-stirs-debate-over-risky-research-1.18787
I’m sure it’s just a coincidence...
I’m sure it’s just a coincidence...

This spring would have had more protests than the 1960s. The Chinese government had a lot to lose with Hong Kong protests starting to spread to Guangdong province.
Is there anything they could keep them home as effectively as this?
Is there anything they could keep them home as effectively as this?

Please stay safe people. This is really scary!! Would recommend flattenthecurve.com for some
Good advice.
Good advice.

Undoubtedly the powers that be have concocted this virus to thin the herd of the weak and terrify the populace into obedience.

ridiculous, if the us engineered something like this wouldn't they first go after their #1 enemy, the iranian governement?
wait a sec...
wait a sec...

i think youre having fun with this but if not how would such a secret ever be kept? it goes strongly against the most instinctive of human instincts to do this and keep quite about it.

The ways we receive our information are controlled.
A handful of major companies own the media.
Information is compartmentalised.
Silence is gained through money, threats/blackmail or killing/suiciding.
Check out the ‘Clinton body count’ and see how many of his close personal friends and bodyguards have died in light aircraft accidents or committed suicide. It’s not hidden, but a well constructed narrative that makes this sound silly protects it very well. An open mind is all that one needs. Much love.
A handful of major companies own the media.
Information is compartmentalised.
Silence is gained through money, threats/blackmail or killing/suiciding.
Check out the ‘Clinton body count’ and see how many of his close personal friends and bodyguards have died in light aircraft accidents or committed suicide. It’s not hidden, but a well constructed narrative that makes this sound silly protects it very well. An open mind is all that one needs. Much love.

if it were true this story could never break with corporate media. they all run their government's take on anything remotely like this.

Spooks have protocols for this shit it usually means killing the researchers or holding something over them.

You lot having been hitting the ganja too hard! It’s simple biology that caused this outbreak. When living things breed their dna is copied but this isn’t a perfect process and sometimes errors in this process causes mutations. Where viral generations can be a matter of minutes rather than years microbial life is much more susceptible to mutations such as becoming more virulent and resistant to existing medicine. Or as is suspected in this outbreak a type of virus may live happily in a certain species of animal without causing harm but a mutation allows it to cross the species barrier and infect humans, but where humans aren’t it’s usual host it can cause harm. Unfortunately this is more common in areas where bush meat is traded because your going to get a range of different animal diseases that may cross the species barrier and there’s no biohazard control like you would get in an abattoir. Seriously, linking Coronavirus with 5g and the royals!? Why not throw in reptilians for good measure? Posts like this make me weep for humanity.

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If you actually look at 5g you will see that over 130 thousand 5g towers were put in china in 2019 in the bid to win this stupid 5g race.
November to be exact is when it all started with the mass 5g installations and yet thats also when the first case of coronavirus was confirmed.
With over 10 thousand being installed in wuhan alone.
You look at side effects from emf frequencies and a lot of it could well be linked. It does have the potential to mutate things.
America has approximately 10 thousand 5g antennas throughout the whole country to put it into perspective.
Look at the amount of emf related complaints in america alone.
Recently near me they turned on 5g and 200 birds fell out of the sky. The news tried to say oh must of been a bird of prey ? things arent always black and white. Coronavirus is just another virus they are using to fear monger. Then there will be a vaccine for it.
Every year its the same. Sars. Bird flu. Swine flu. Ebola. The normal flu. Same shit every year . People just got to open their eyes.
November to be exact is when it all started with the mass 5g installations and yet thats also when the first case of coronavirus was confirmed.
With over 10 thousand being installed in wuhan alone.
You look at side effects from emf frequencies and a lot of it could well be linked. It does have the potential to mutate things.
America has approximately 10 thousand 5g antennas throughout the whole country to put it into perspective.
Look at the amount of emf related complaints in america alone.
Recently near me they turned on 5g and 200 birds fell out of the sky. The news tried to say oh must of been a bird of prey ? things arent always black and white. Coronavirus is just another virus they are using to fear monger. Then there will be a vaccine for it.
Every year its the same. Sars. Bird flu. Swine flu. Ebola. The normal flu. Same shit every year . People just got to open their eyes.

I personally feel mass 5g installations are causing a lot of side effects . Pneumonia is even a side effect of emf frequencies so really does make you wonder.


yes, this is how she gets us all to herself

Coronavirus doesn’t have DNA, it’s not even really alive. It’s just a code of RNA
Like a computer virus it can only “live” and replicate inside a host
Like a computer virus it can only “live” and replicate inside a host

this describes everyone here (without regard to planetary origin) the trick dear biggaz is to see all sides and remain open until a conclusion is actually required.

Is it a coincidence that the only level 4 biological research in China is in Wuhan, was studying Coronaviruses and the Harvard professor paid by the Chinese govt to set the lab up has been arrested by the USA recently?
Just like Jimmy Savile, procurer of children for the elite was best friends with Prince Charles and Jeffery Epstein, procurer of children for the elite was best friends with Prince Andrew. All a coincidence, nothing to see.
No reptiles required.
Just like Jimmy Savile, procurer of children for the elite was best friends with Prince Charles and Jeffery Epstein, procurer of children for the elite was best friends with Prince Andrew. All a coincidence, nothing to see.
No reptiles required.

i checked your lab comment and it is verifiable. way way too strange that the only lab in china is in wuhan.
"The facility, known as the Wuhan National Biosafety Laboratory, is housed within the Chinese Academy of Sciences and was specifically designed to help Chinese scientists "prepare for and respond to future infectious disease outbreaks,"
It was created after SARS, you gotta wonder just how they were "preparing" at this lab. You don't need anything sinister for this theory, you just need incompetence at the lab.
"The facility, known as the Wuhan National Biosafety Laboratory, is housed within the Chinese Academy of Sciences and was specifically designed to help Chinese scientists "prepare for and respond to future infectious disease outbreaks,"
It was created after SARS, you gotta wonder just how they were "preparing" at this lab. You don't need anything sinister for this theory, you just need incompetence at the lab.

The conditions of this lab were investigated a few years ago by the American government, during the time that the lab was advertising jobs for coronavirus researchers. The conditions were extremely poor.

I’ll play the tinfoil hat card in that case:
The level 4 bio lab in wuhan was funded by the Americans and traces back to non other than Jeffery Epstein/Harvard university (see YouTube: Shaun Attwood’s Jeffery Epstein playlist vids).
The idea is in the short term to undermine the Asian economy (working well) and in the long term to assist in the Committee of 300/Black Monarchy plan to reduce the global population by 50% by 2050. Big Pharmaceutical companies will make huge profits also which all go back to the 300.
See ‘The Committee of 300 by Dr. John Coleman’ in YouTube. This will show the truth to those with eyes to see.
It is just 1 small thread.
5g will make many of us infertile in the short term and cause cancer in the longer term. The weaponised aspect with full coverage will make protest or revolt near on impossible.
The goal is 1 world government with the masses easily managed.
Lots of us are waking up. We can stop this. I am not the masses, I am an individual.
The elite nonces want total power. Let’s stand up and say no. Join your local ‘no 5g’ group and get up and protest. For your kids sake. As the lyrics say if you tolerate this then your children will be next. Take 5 mins and look at the vids. Look at Prince Andrew’s victim Virginia Giuffre’s twitter page. She provides documents from California courts claiming Donald Trump raped a 13 year old child. Why was the case dropped? Why don’t we hear about it? Why do the elites (Clinton, trump, Heath, the royals, etc etc) all nonce? The truth is in plain sight.
Jimmy Savile was prince Charles best mate and gave marriage counciling to Diana. She wrote about it in her autobiography.
Charles best mate: Savile. Andrews best mates: Epstein and maxwell. If you read this far then peace and love.
We are waking up.
The level 4 bio lab in wuhan was funded by the Americans and traces back to non other than Jeffery Epstein/Harvard university (see YouTube: Shaun Attwood’s Jeffery Epstein playlist vids).
The idea is in the short term to undermine the Asian economy (working well) and in the long term to assist in the Committee of 300/Black Monarchy plan to reduce the global population by 50% by 2050. Big Pharmaceutical companies will make huge profits also which all go back to the 300.
See ‘The Committee of 300 by Dr. John Coleman’ in YouTube. This will show the truth to those with eyes to see.
It is just 1 small thread.
5g will make many of us infertile in the short term and cause cancer in the longer term. The weaponised aspect with full coverage will make protest or revolt near on impossible.
The goal is 1 world government with the masses easily managed.
Lots of us are waking up. We can stop this. I am not the masses, I am an individual.
The elite nonces want total power. Let’s stand up and say no. Join your local ‘no 5g’ group and get up and protest. For your kids sake. As the lyrics say if you tolerate this then your children will be next. Take 5 mins and look at the vids. Look at Prince Andrew’s victim Virginia Giuffre’s twitter page. She provides documents from California courts claiming Donald Trump raped a 13 year old child. Why was the case dropped? Why don’t we hear about it? Why do the elites (Clinton, trump, Heath, the royals, etc etc) all nonce? The truth is in plain sight.
Jimmy Savile was prince Charles best mate and gave marriage counciling to Diana. She wrote about it in her autobiography.
Charles best mate: Savile. Andrews best mates: Epstein and maxwell. If you read this far then peace and love.
We are waking up.

Not my opinion but Il play the other card, for the purpose of debate.
China did this to themselves, intentionally. What better way to elevate your economy than to release pathogen which will breeze over the healthy, yet kill sick and old people. Minimising/removing welfare and health costs and leaving behind an entire working populous. What a way to beat the tariffs...wanna bet the cure comes from china too?
FWIW I despise conspiracy theories, they are based in fear and ignorance, all are entitled to their own thoughts though!
As I said this is not my opinion, but we live in a world where all things must be considered, even the things which at times seem impossible are more often than not, just improbable.
Peace x
China did this to themselves, intentionally. What better way to elevate your economy than to release pathogen which will breeze over the healthy, yet kill sick and old people. Minimising/removing welfare and health costs and leaving behind an entire working populous. What a way to beat the tariffs...wanna bet the cure comes from china too?
FWIW I despise conspiracy theories, they are based in fear and ignorance, all are entitled to their own thoughts though!
As I said this is not my opinion, but we live in a world where all things must be considered, even the things which at times seem impossible are more often than not, just improbable.
Peace x

well crafted conspiracy and a wise epilogue


you wanna corona virus conspiracy eh? well, just ask yourself who profits here

population control lol
If them riots had spread to mainland China how much would that affect the economy
Just throwing some stuff out there
If them riots had spread to mainland China how much would that affect the economy
Just throwing some stuff out there

Makes sense.
And then it suddenly and quietly disappears.
So is ebola, so is hiv, etc etc.
It is happening in front of our eyes and eat the stories.
Life's not about fairy tales they feed us.
And then it suddenly and quietly disappears.
So is ebola, so is hiv, etc etc.
It is happening in front of our eyes and eat the stories.
Life's not about fairy tales they feed us.

Haha so true!

Of course. Why wouldn't US do this to Russia. Because they know that next day Russians will wave a tiny vial on TV saying they've cured it. And retaliate beyond repair.
Why not Iran? They have nothing to gain. But an economic 'war' with China. One has to make them look ugly and not appealing to deal with.
Same story is with so many African nations.
As a matter of fact, the italian man who was diagnosted with coronavirus walked out of a swiss hospital already. Cured. LOL.
Why not Iran? They have nothing to gain. But an economic 'war' with China. One has to make them look ugly and not appealing to deal with.
Same story is with so many African nations.
As a matter of fact, the italian man who was diagnosted with coronavirus walked out of a swiss hospital already. Cured. LOL.

You wouldn't put a virus like that out there to destroy another economy especially one where it effectives old people.

Sure, on Vulcan. But humans don't need able bodies people to die they only need to be scared. And that's what happened.
A virus with a bark bigger than it's bite is optimal for economic destruction and rather Trumpian if you ask me.
That said yeah of course this is just nature at work :)
A virus with a bark bigger than it's bite is optimal for economic destruction and rather Trumpian if you ask me.
That said yeah of course this is just nature at work :)

Says who? Trump?

There’s a very interesting book written by Dean Koontz in 1981 The Eyes Of Darkness, that mentions a virus created in a lab just outside wuhan in labs called Wuhan-400, and he’s prediction is that it will affect humanity around 2020! Wether it’s genuine everyone can make up their own mind, interesting he mentions it though!

Very interesting that (Wuhan 400) is what he called it.

But yeah I can believe it was at least being developed or researched in a lab, and it got out. Maybe Russia were in on it too. After all they caused problems in Salisbury and they clearly don't adhere to international agreements. Germ / bacterial/ viral warfare on a global scale is the next best thing to nukes. At least the earth wouldn't be scorched -- but then the virus would kill the perpetrators too, so fuck knows.
Its a very clever and organically advanced virus too, affecting human lungs. I know "Mother Nature" is clever but ....this virus is quite advanced. Scary shit man.
But I never thought I would be so bored having to stay at home.
Aarrrgghhhh!!!!!!
Its a very clever and organically advanced virus too, affecting human lungs. I know "Mother Nature" is clever but ....this virus is quite advanced. Scary shit man.
But I never thought I would be so bored having to stay at home.
Aarrrgghhhh!!!!!!

the lamestream mediocres and corrupt WHO have been warning about a second wave. Now there are new cases springing up in Beijing.
Globally, the first wave is petering out, but the election is not until November.
Makes me wonder if we're being groomed for a second nonsensical lockdown. That history has already shown the first to be bullshit will I assume have no bearing if this is indeed what's coming down the pipe.
If there were some politically motivated opportunist mass gatherings orchestrated, then presumably the spread (of the second wave) could be pinned on these
Globally, the first wave is petering out, but the election is not until November.
Makes me wonder if we're being groomed for a second nonsensical lockdown. That history has already shown the first to be bullshit will I assume have no bearing if this is indeed what's coming down the pipe.
If there were some politically motivated opportunist mass gatherings orchestrated, then presumably the spread (of the second wave) could be pinned on these

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SlimShadow
Governing People (Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy entry)
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Tenpester
How Do REgular Chinese People Feel About The Virus?

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Tenpester
How Do REgular Chinese People Feel About The Virus?
I know I feel like shit about my countries behavior towards the rest of the world it's basically the opposite of how I want to treat people.
If my country started the virus I would be bummed and if my government acted like assholes about it I would be really pissed off. But I can't speak for anyone else and I would like to hear from real people instead of this shit show of mass media.
If my country started the virus I would be bummed and if my government acted like assholes about it I would be really pissed off. But I can't speak for anyone else and I would like to hear from real people instead of this shit show of mass media.

Remember the UK have nuked people, whole islands in fact, the government knew it was coming and knew when it was here, it isn’t another countries fault they couldn’t control it in the UK ❤️

While I am a Chinese, from mainland China. I feel that our human is unfortunate, and the world's health system may need to be improved. It is true that this virus started here, but no one wanted it to be there. Everyone knows that the Chinese government uses centralised rules, and people listen to the government's control. It's not democratic and honestly, I hate this system. It helped China control the covid situation just in several months, but things became weird recently. Just talking about China, there is almost no Covid in any cities, but when there are one or two cases appears, people in social media will attack them and post their personal information on websites. Majority of people don't show care or love to them but it's like if someone doesn't follow the rule he should be abandoned. I feel very weird about my home country, the CCP culture is so different in the UK (I lived in 3 years here), these two countries treated the covid with a very different attitude. I would say no one is wrong, each nation has its own style, and everyone wants the virus disappears. For me, I would rather be a global citizen, as I found myself very difficult to find identity and where should I belong to.

what do you mean "my" country? you're just a guy who lives on earth, thats what we all are! you should not feel guilt for what some sadistic monarchy decided for you! part of the reason we are all fucked is because this subtle nationalism still exists!
a huge part of the problem is the "my country" did this and "your country" did that, instead it should be "we did this" we are just one species on a floating rock, nothing more!
we will never, ever fix societies problems with nationalism still being prevalant, a huge shift in the norm is required currently.
a huge part of the problem is the "my country" did this and "your country" did that, instead it should be "we did this" we are just one species on a floating rock, nothing more!
we will never, ever fix societies problems with nationalism still being prevalant, a huge shift in the norm is required currently.

at the end of the day (epoch?) this is the only answer

Didn't you hear?
"there is NO virus"
(at least nothing more deadly than the common flu)
con artist's playing confident trick's.
"there is NO virus"
(at least nothing more deadly than the common flu)
con artist's playing confident trick's.

Knowing how many people got infected visiting hospitals and that there wasn’t always enough or proper care for them, means the huge rise in deaths has over dramatised the impact of this covid strain in particular, I’m still out on it’s effect on humans, it would seem to be symptomatically worse than flu, but I am undecided as have been admitted to hospital with very similar symptoms following a flu jab a few years ago and having the same symptoms before the virus end of 2019

Wet markets in China may have started the virus, but it's the absolute incompetence of the World Health Organisation that has failed to sanction the markets that shows the utter corruption in the system.
Don't judge Chinese people. They are the same as all of us, but the CCP has a hold over not only their own population, but the people that run the WHO.
It'll get worse before it gets better.
Just my 2p, I hope I'm wrong.
Cheers BB
Don't judge Chinese people. They are the same as all of us, but the CCP has a hold over not only their own population, but the people that run the WHO.
It'll get worse before it gets better.
Just my 2p, I hope I'm wrong.
Cheers BB


sure but the whole world closed and that market open? come on man

We are all hardwired for wanting remorse like you are expressing but even more is the natural condition of having the remorse in the 1st place. I don't think this even a question because the answer must be of course!
Will governments act like sociopaths yes will some suckers get rallied up by bullshit yeah but at the end of this fucked up day we all feel bad it doesn't matter what time zone we are in.
Will governments act like sociopaths yes will some suckers get rallied up by bullshit yeah but at the end of this fucked up day we all feel bad it doesn't matter what time zone we are in.

I have a lot of contact with Chinese and Taiwanese people regularly. In general, I think people don't really know what to believe in mainland China. There have been other outbreaks in Asia, so COVID is nothing really new. I find that there is little talk of the virus. However I think this varies regionally, though people are getting on with their lives and things are getting back to normal, slowly. In Hong Kong lots of kids aren't at school. Kids in Taiwan have returned and things are pretty contained there, too. Factories and businesses have been closing in mainland China, so there is worry in certain areas of job loss, etc.
I hope this gives a general picture!
I hope this gives a general picture!

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foster
The Rise of Nazism Looks a Lot Like Now

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foster
The Rise of Nazism Looks a Lot Like Now
The author looks at ordinary people's lives as Hitler shocked the country into submission as he fought the "lügenpresse" - lying media.

AND JUST LIKE IN NAZI GERMANY YOU HAVE PEOPLE BEING APOLOGISTS BECAUSE OF "COMMUNISM". AT LEAST IT WAS ACTUALLY FUCKING COMMUNISM BACK THEN AND NOT JUST WHATEVER IS NOT ON THE RIGHT

Germany became increasingly polarized with people espousing Marxism on one side and Law and Order on the other. This is exactly how it feels in America now.

LOL very interesting take on history there

Watching the Plot Against America on Sky and it’s easy to see how Facism takes hold. Not dissimilar to Trump’s America.

Why the dystopian views are always referred to Nazism and not to Communism? They are basically the same shit, and Communism looks much more dangerous to me, because it "succeeded" for many more years, in many more countries, and for some reason has that glamorous look to so many idiots...


ring really reminds me of the gestapo, they rolled almost exclusively through ordinary informants. people with fucked up biases are having their day.

Any smart device

where there are informants there is vendetta, blackmail and corruption


why do they keep designing things to look like hal? doesnt anyone remember how the movie ends?


not to worry its the worst part


Yes but maybe more like the Rise of Narcissism

Yes this is an important thing to understand. People are interested in their own lives and a crazy ruler is just a form of entertainment in most people's lives. If they are effective with delivering quick economic results then they are good entertainers and are delivering some positives then fine - so why think more about this? It's demeaning to even take a fascist seriously so why bother doing so? In Germany we know why.


It is worrying that the far right parties are gaining to much support in Europe, and we should never take our eye off the ball and learn from history what can happen when you do...

I just can'''t understand how Eastern Europeans of all people would want Nazism. They couldn't have learned a harder lessn already.

They are pretty much the last white countries and see the end is coming.

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bit poppa
Taiwan is leading networked democracy

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bit poppa
Taiwan is leading networked democracy
A web platform for creating initiatives actually works.

the software reference in thie article pol.is, and a similar site called kialo are really good for debating you think they would be good for little biggy governance.

Democracy is like a lot of shit, it's really exciting and motivating until you get used to it. Places like Taiwan are still smitten with democracy and are likely to become the leaders.


true this look at hk

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doc holiday
where is the most optimistic place on earth right now?

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doc holiday
where is the most optimistic place on earth right now?
I probably can't go but just knowing it exists would give me hope

Czech Republic, China, Taiwan;)
Buy a fake degree online and use it to get a working visa for teaching English in China. Unless you already have a degree, then it’s easy and they look after you;)
Buy a fake degree online and use it to get a working visa for teaching English in China. Unless you already have a degree, then it’s easy and they look after you;)

My friend you need not go anywhere to feel more optimistic. As a wise old goat I would suggest that you will feel more optimistic about the world if you stop watching the news. The news media has one main objective. To put the fear of God/Mohammed/Haile Selassie (delete as necessary) into ALL of us. That way they hope that we will keep on watching in fear of our lives whilst at the same time putting their chosen political spin on the news to suit their agenda and worry the shit out of us.
My friends please give it a chance and you will see that the world isn’t speeding at 1,000mph towards hell.
The news just wants you to think that. And keep you watching in fear.
Happy smokes.
My friends please give it a chance and you will see that the world isn’t speeding at 1,000mph towards hell.
The news just wants you to think that. And keep you watching in fear.
Happy smokes.

Here

That's a great question and one that I have been thinking, the pic of Boris reminds me of the kid in the OMEN.

Perhaps it's been said, but he looks like Brian Jones, who didn't exactly grow up to be the kindest soul, though a perfect musical foil for Keef and co.
Most optimistic? The DMT dreamscape maybe, for a little while before it dissipates into the ether.
Most optimistic? The DMT dreamscape maybe, for a little while before it dissipates into the ether.



Most Optimistic place ? the Jungle where them Jaguars be teleporting on a regular. Ayahuasca enthusiastic Jaguars know whats up.

My grow tent

Taiwan :)

The youtube channels of QAnon followers who think Trump is the saviour, warriors of light are leaving flaming bags of turd on the doorstep of the Illuminati and we're not just all trying to create in a landscape of true chaos...

you should talk to little biggy noobs!

Joe Rogan’s brain

True, the smallest places are the happiest.

I really want to resume travelling, but it seems unlikely right now :/

Yeah, I'm desperate to head back to Amsterdam/Utrecht, and then on to Berlin again :) Where do you want to go?

Amsterdam! I go often. Well, used to

It's a dream :) It'd be great to arrange a Little Biggy meet up in the Dam for next year (hopefully 4/20). Something to look forward to!

How does Tashkent Uzbekistan grab ya?

Is it anything like Kent? I've been grabbed there and it wasn't such a bad thing.

From posh kent to Tashkent, better bring your stash Kent.

My dearest gent I must repent!
Your rhyme? It doesn't work - without a colonial AKcent.
Your rhyme? It doesn't work - without a colonial AKcent.

Colonial? Your shit's just parochial.
Just keep it in the parish bigga, maybe tell it to your vicar
You know he's always up to hear from his favorite dick licker.
Just keep it in the parish bigga, maybe tell it to your vicar
You know he's always up to hear from his favorite dick licker.

+3 votes
1 post

by
PurpleMaize
Strain for anxiety over impending coups?

by
PurpleMaize
Strain for anxiety over impending coups?
Anybody have a good strain to help sooth worries over armed people storming the Capitol?

+6 votes
2 posts
best explanation of how russia functions (economist.com)
best explanation of how russia functions (economist.com)
putin is a tsar, which is a kind of broker between classes

Decentralised legal System
I love the way Wesley thinks:
"DECENTRALIZING THE WORLD 2.0 --
After decentralizing money, we will no decentralize the Law.
You probably heard of Bitcoin. Last year's hype has gotten a lot of people very excited. Why is this?
Well, Bitcoin is a new kind of money. It gives people the freedom to transact with one-another -- without the need for a third party (bank, paypal, atm's, currency exchanges) or central authority (government, central banks).
It allows you to send payments all over the world: instantly, with very low fees and without needing anyone's permission. The amount of freedom, and efficiency- and cost-savings this will provide in the near future is going to be huge!
HOWEVER, that's not all...
People have been looking at how these technologies can be used to improve other areas of society. This resulted in a lot of new ideas about LAW and GOVERNANCE; from self-enforcing online contracts, the way companies are incorporated, to the way court hearings are done (and enforced), and even to the creation of online countries (?!).
I was enthusiastic about these developments. But the better I studied them, the more whitepapers I read, the more I realized that something is missing. Basically, all these projects act like they are in a vacuum. As if all we need is a few superiors lines of code, and all current laws and legal systems will be replaced. But laws matter. They did not fall from the sky, and they are not going away.
Frankly, what is missing, is a "Legal Framework" -- a way to merge these technologies with the real world. A framework for decentralized law making, arbitration and enforcement. And as I found out, our existing legal systems allows a lot of room for that!
And thus I introduce:
The DECENTRALIZED LEGAL SYSTEM -- The first enforceable framework for Decentralized Law.
To create this system, I studied different decentralized legal projects and existing relevant laws -- all the way back to the ancient Greeks, to figure out what law actually is. In the end, I tied this all together in a straightforward peer-to-peer system that can govern (and enforce) future decentralized systems.
I made this simple website, where you can see the executive summary and download the whitepaper:
https://decentralizedlegalsystem.com/
Let me know what you think, and feel free to share with people you think might find this interesting.
Cheers!
Wesley"
"DECENTRALIZING THE WORLD 2.0 --
After decentralizing money, we will no decentralize the Law.
You probably heard of Bitcoin. Last year's hype has gotten a lot of people very excited. Why is this?
Well, Bitcoin is a new kind of money. It gives people the freedom to transact with one-another -- without the need for a third party (bank, paypal, atm's, currency exchanges) or central authority (government, central banks).
It allows you to send payments all over the world: instantly, with very low fees and without needing anyone's permission. The amount of freedom, and efficiency- and cost-savings this will provide in the near future is going to be huge!
HOWEVER, that's not all...
People have been looking at how these technologies can be used to improve other areas of society. This resulted in a lot of new ideas about LAW and GOVERNANCE; from self-enforcing online contracts, the way companies are incorporated, to the way court hearings are done (and enforced), and even to the creation of online countries (?!).
I was enthusiastic about these developments. But the better I studied them, the more whitepapers I read, the more I realized that something is missing. Basically, all these projects act like they are in a vacuum. As if all we need is a few superiors lines of code, and all current laws and legal systems will be replaced. But laws matter. They did not fall from the sky, and they are not going away.
Frankly, what is missing, is a "Legal Framework" -- a way to merge these technologies with the real world. A framework for decentralized law making, arbitration and enforcement. And as I found out, our existing legal systems allows a lot of room for that!
And thus I introduce:
The DECENTRALIZED LEGAL SYSTEM -- The first enforceable framework for Decentralized Law.
To create this system, I studied different decentralized legal projects and existing relevant laws -- all the way back to the ancient Greeks, to figure out what law actually is. In the end, I tied this all together in a straightforward peer-to-peer system that can govern (and enforce) future decentralized systems.
I made this simple website, where you can see the executive summary and download the whitepaper:
https://decentralizedlegalsystem.com/
Let me know what you think, and feel free to share with people you think might find this interesting.
Cheers!
Wesley"

Thank you for your question.
I think that by creating state machinery that allows coordination of social, military, political action on large scale over a big territory (including multiple cities), people unwittingly forged chains that could be broken only by the progress of modern times. Which made possible the education, instruction, information and coordination of the struggle of the working classes on an equally large scale.
History (theory), being unable to explain "failures" of many revolutions, has just chosen to ignore them by refusing to take into account all the authentic "unsuccessful" revolutions in history.
Revolutions happen more often than we think and are not always covered in blood and change of regimes.
That said, yes, believe it has to be a revolution, not necessarily ones whose images we have imprinted in our consciousness by history/media/etc.
Pretty much same as invention of bitcoin. Revolution that happened in front of our eyes and is still going on.
I think that by creating state machinery that allows coordination of social, military, political action on large scale over a big territory (including multiple cities), people unwittingly forged chains that could be broken only by the progress of modern times. Which made possible the education, instruction, information and coordination of the struggle of the working classes on an equally large scale.
History (theory), being unable to explain "failures" of many revolutions, has just chosen to ignore them by refusing to take into account all the authentic "unsuccessful" revolutions in history.
Revolutions happen more often than we think and are not always covered in blood and change of regimes.
That said, yes, believe it has to be a revolution, not necessarily ones whose images we have imprinted in our consciousness by history/media/etc.
Pretty much same as invention of bitcoin. Revolution that happened in front of our eyes and is still going on.

Smart contracts are a great improvement over the legal system, no arguing, no check is in the mail, just events and payments.

+63.5 votes
16 posts

by
bBoi
How is Nationalism Any Different from Racism?

by
bBoi
How is Nationalism Any Different from Racism?
I don't want to give preference to someone the same color as me so why should I prefer someone for being born in the same country as me (or worse they are ordained a citizen by some twat)?

I want Scottish independence so I would vote for the Scottish National Party at the Scottish elections. That my friend has absolutely nothing to do with race! I'm an avid supporter of BLM and campaign for it, I'm also a left wing Socialist and would love every human and animal to live in harmony.
It's the right wing Tory Brexit voters you need to be wary of.
Scotland welcomes refugees
It's the right wing Tory Brexit voters you need to be wary of.
Scotland welcomes refugees

Well i'm of dual heritage (my dad was from the West Indies and my mum is English) so my 'British Bulldog' avatar and profile might upset some in this thread, but yeah, i'm proud of all of my heritage.
Racism is very ugly, and you know it when you experience it.
Pride in one's heritage is completely different.
Cheers. BB
Racism is very ugly, and you know it when you experience it.
Pride in one's heritage is completely different.
Cheers. BB

Basically it derives from the same origins. There are certain laws of ethnic relations in history of humankind, such as:
1. law of percentage: lets say a black person somewhere in gothenburg or copenhagen would trigger an amused curiosity and the outpouring of sincere sympathy, however, if you "inject" immigrant workers up to the fateful threshold of 4-8 percent and you will already have a racial situation - the nature of social relationships changes, engendering ethnic tensions, global reflexes painful to describe. The more the percentage increases, the more class struggle transforms itself into racial confrontation. Basically, this percentage is sufficient to make racial discrimination appear spontaneously in people who previously believed itself wholesome and devoid of any racist sentiment.
2. The law of assimilability: If majority and the minority belong to the same large ethnic group (all are white, or all a asian), then assimilation occurs progressively. For example, Spanish or Portuguese workers despised in France not so long ago, integrated themselves into population within the space of one generation; same for descendants of corsicans and the poles during napoleonic era, same for bambara minority living in senegal. But if the ethnic and cultural gap is too big, tensions are exacerbated with time. Like African Blacks and Arabs find themselves in this situation in Europe. Coexistance basically becomes possible only in a truly Socialist state or a state that has adopted a high morality philosophy.
3. the law of distance: like two ethnic groups that are not fighting over the same living space or same market and occupy different territories separated by space can enter into normal relationships. Like that an alliance can be explained during world war 2 between hitlers germany and japan. or relationship of pretoria with israel state.
4. the law of phenotype: basically physical appearance. It would matter little tgat botha and zulu in africa have the same genotype (same genes in the chromosomes) and it would have no influence on their daily lives because their external features are so different.
Laws of class struggle according to history applies only to societies previously made homogeneous by violence. Funny, that the most modern nations actually went through this bestial struggles before (Americas, australia, new zealand, good part of asia, greenland, huge part of pacific, scandinavia, etc, etc).For example Blacks of Americas were brough over to work the land, while the indigenous races were being destroyed. So, the "more advanced" barbarious conquerors exterminated/drove out whole populations, devastated or abandoned productive forces they they simply did not know how to use. This specific law is one of my favourite... how spartan domination ended by crumbling particularly because of the great numeric weakness of their REAL citizens. Because their society consisting of spartan conquerors and lowly helots both belonged to the same large white-skinned 'race', ethnic differences became blurred and it allowed class differences appeared only in an economic sense.
Same goes for Rome and Carthage, Rwanda-Burundi, Francs and Gallo-Romans.
Have a look at the american immigration laws and how it progressed throghout 19-20 centuries. This law also gave birth to so called intra-european racism, etc.
We forget that the passage from a clan to a monolingual tribe and to ethnic group and to nationality historically was a result, a consequences of clans exogamy. It is still widely discussed by specialists. But it marked starting point of the current civilization.
Endogamy was prohibited and we, humans, just started fucking people from the outside kkk several neibourhing clans contracted marriage ties that led them eventually to speak same languages despite that their original idioms were different.
The number of clans to gather together to work a more or less powerful tribe didnt follow any rules and depended mostly on the fertility and extent of the lands occupied by the group. Thus was born nationality.
In the course of history, when two groups of people argued over a vital economic space, the slightest ethnic difference can be magnified, temporarily serving as a pretext for social and political cleavage: differences in physical appearances, colour of your passport, language, religions, morals and customs.
We forget that basically future generations must forget about the dead so that the conquering people can undergo a rebirth with an angelic consience.
Why do we almost idolise, for example, conquistadors, holy crusaders and vikings? Pillagers, rapists, murderers and worse.
Most of the things we learn and follow, most of the times, blindly, things we consider as truths and solid facts, the very foundation of our personal universes - it was predominantly build based on someones ideologies.
Books, that our kids and us read, are also written under certain circumstances, conditions, requirements, with certain motivations. Dictated by an ideology.
Sooo.... sorry for the massive message. It just questions like this trigger something inside me, something that i consciously try to understand and overcome. For before we are races or nationalities, boys or girls, gays or straight, we are humans.
Peace yo.
1. law of percentage: lets say a black person somewhere in gothenburg or copenhagen would trigger an amused curiosity and the outpouring of sincere sympathy, however, if you "inject" immigrant workers up to the fateful threshold of 4-8 percent and you will already have a racial situation - the nature of social relationships changes, engendering ethnic tensions, global reflexes painful to describe. The more the percentage increases, the more class struggle transforms itself into racial confrontation. Basically, this percentage is sufficient to make racial discrimination appear spontaneously in people who previously believed itself wholesome and devoid of any racist sentiment.
2. The law of assimilability: If majority and the minority belong to the same large ethnic group (all are white, or all a asian), then assimilation occurs progressively. For example, Spanish or Portuguese workers despised in France not so long ago, integrated themselves into population within the space of one generation; same for descendants of corsicans and the poles during napoleonic era, same for bambara minority living in senegal. But if the ethnic and cultural gap is too big, tensions are exacerbated with time. Like African Blacks and Arabs find themselves in this situation in Europe. Coexistance basically becomes possible only in a truly Socialist state or a state that has adopted a high morality philosophy.
3. the law of distance: like two ethnic groups that are not fighting over the same living space or same market and occupy different territories separated by space can enter into normal relationships. Like that an alliance can be explained during world war 2 between hitlers germany and japan. or relationship of pretoria with israel state.
4. the law of phenotype: basically physical appearance. It would matter little tgat botha and zulu in africa have the same genotype (same genes in the chromosomes) and it would have no influence on their daily lives because their external features are so different.
Laws of class struggle according to history applies only to societies previously made homogeneous by violence. Funny, that the most modern nations actually went through this bestial struggles before (Americas, australia, new zealand, good part of asia, greenland, huge part of pacific, scandinavia, etc, etc).For example Blacks of Americas were brough over to work the land, while the indigenous races were being destroyed. So, the "more advanced" barbarious conquerors exterminated/drove out whole populations, devastated or abandoned productive forces they they simply did not know how to use. This specific law is one of my favourite... how spartan domination ended by crumbling particularly because of the great numeric weakness of their REAL citizens. Because their society consisting of spartan conquerors and lowly helots both belonged to the same large white-skinned 'race', ethnic differences became blurred and it allowed class differences appeared only in an economic sense.
Same goes for Rome and Carthage, Rwanda-Burundi, Francs and Gallo-Romans.
Have a look at the american immigration laws and how it progressed throghout 19-20 centuries. This law also gave birth to so called intra-european racism, etc.
We forget that the passage from a clan to a monolingual tribe and to ethnic group and to nationality historically was a result, a consequences of clans exogamy. It is still widely discussed by specialists. But it marked starting point of the current civilization.
Endogamy was prohibited and we, humans, just started fucking people from the outside kkk several neibourhing clans contracted marriage ties that led them eventually to speak same languages despite that their original idioms were different.
The number of clans to gather together to work a more or less powerful tribe didnt follow any rules and depended mostly on the fertility and extent of the lands occupied by the group. Thus was born nationality.
In the course of history, when two groups of people argued over a vital economic space, the slightest ethnic difference can be magnified, temporarily serving as a pretext for social and political cleavage: differences in physical appearances, colour of your passport, language, religions, morals and customs.
We forget that basically future generations must forget about the dead so that the conquering people can undergo a rebirth with an angelic consience.
Why do we almost idolise, for example, conquistadors, holy crusaders and vikings? Pillagers, rapists, murderers and worse.
Most of the things we learn and follow, most of the times, blindly, things we consider as truths and solid facts, the very foundation of our personal universes - it was predominantly build based on someones ideologies.
Books, that our kids and us read, are also written under certain circumstances, conditions, requirements, with certain motivations. Dictated by an ideology.
Sooo.... sorry for the massive message. It just questions like this trigger something inside me, something that i consciously try to understand and overcome. For before we are races or nationalities, boys or girls, gays or straight, we are humans.
Peace yo.

Interesting points. I just came across this forum and will make a contribution. Meanwhile, on the topic of Scottish Nationalism, I have myself proposed Independence For England! We English (whatever that means through consensus) vote in a referendum to dissolve the union of England and Scotland. Never mind what they want, how about what we want, which may be to separate from them, along with the subject nation of Wales. We'll have our own oven ready breakfast and our own national covid death toll, while we surrender the last shreds of our integrity to the fucking Yanks and the fucking Chinese whose government leaders wouldn't make the groove as a couple of Pox Doctor's clerks.

Wait do Scotts not have bangers and mash?

Scotland's nationalist party don't want to exclude races, they want independence from another countries rule. It's not about racism.

Unless is the European Union.

lol. ok, i'll bite...
nationalism is a term for those with common interests as citizens of the same country working together for mutual benefit and/or pride.
racism is a hatred of one or more person/s where skin colour is the basis used for the defining attribute.
neither is mandatory last I heard.
nationalism is a term for those with common interests as citizens of the same country working together for mutual benefit and/or pride.
racism is a hatred of one or more person/s where skin colour is the basis used for the defining attribute.
neither is mandatory last I heard.

Not necessarily, Scottish nationalism is an attempt to escape racism

Sounds like something a Scottish nationalist would say.

a lot of nationalists aren't so much racists as exclusionary. they believe in a social contact that only exists amongst members. outsiders are not part of the deal.

Just like you would naturally have a preference for feeding your own family in your own home, before you concerned yourself with feeding anyone else.
This would not mean you hated other people, or didn't wish the best for them.
I think Nationalism is often confused with extreme Right wing ideologies, when it could be Left or Right really.
This would not mean you hated other people, or didn't wish the best for them.
I think Nationalism is often confused with extreme Right wing ideologies, when it could be Left or Right really.

The national front! They were nationalists that says all you need to know!!!

national socialists also skew a little right

+6 votes
2 posts
Networks Not Nations
Networks Not Nations

Now the American Cat is busy licking itself the mice can play again. Ancient ethnic feuds, dictators jerking off with their strategy games, we've seen it all before; new order meet the old order.
It's got to make you wonder why we are still organised into these units called countries. What are they so uniquely good for besides war?
It's got to make you wonder why we are still organised into these units called countries. What are they so uniquely good for besides war?

Olympic sport

+6 votes
2 posts
What Is The Thucydides Trap?
What Is The Thucydides Trap?

You're an "S" and an apostrophe short. It's Thucydides's trap and it's a theory that suggests war and conflict is the natural order of things and the emergence of new nations inevitably lead to war with the older nations they replace. More man the killer ape stick than anything else,but it takes a brave man to argue against.it- sadly.

+50 votes
14 posts

by
w4wendetta
World Riot I

by
w4wendetta
World Riot I
folks lets call this beast what it is, a global street revolution.
while corporate media tries its best to treat all this as unconnected, one-off, occurrences that gets pretty fucking ridiculous when 20 minutes of the 30 minutes news is riots (the other 10 is still commercials to return our wages back to the machine itself).
of course it's global that's what your media has achieved, a whole world scared of the same thing, an ultimate lowest common denominator. well now you fuckers have divided by zero and it doesn't feel very good does it. suddenly you're not so sure?
fear not, the greediest of the bunch will see a profit in spade calling soon enough. the world riot is an irresistible story even if it is the truth. however what comes after that will arrive between our cheeks boys and girls, the gang of leaders that will "restore order". because let's face it these people are getting dangerous and they are holding umbrellas and some have completely unregulated paintball rifles, someone could lose an eye if we don't lock them up and get on with normal life. will it require a few more powers? more than last time? yes, times change and these new agitators are equipped with texting, it takes ages to read all this, some of it still doesn't go through us to begin with.
please take my remote away, im falling asleep through it this time. you're all getting cancelled soon enough.
while corporate media tries its best to treat all this as unconnected, one-off, occurrences that gets pretty fucking ridiculous when 20 minutes of the 30 minutes news is riots (the other 10 is still commercials to return our wages back to the machine itself).
of course it's global that's what your media has achieved, a whole world scared of the same thing, an ultimate lowest common denominator. well now you fuckers have divided by zero and it doesn't feel very good does it. suddenly you're not so sure?
fear not, the greediest of the bunch will see a profit in spade calling soon enough. the world riot is an irresistible story even if it is the truth. however what comes after that will arrive between our cheeks boys and girls, the gang of leaders that will "restore order". because let's face it these people are getting dangerous and they are holding umbrellas and some have completely unregulated paintball rifles, someone could lose an eye if we don't lock them up and get on with normal life. will it require a few more powers? more than last time? yes, times change and these new agitators are equipped with texting, it takes ages to read all this, some of it still doesn't go through us to begin with.
please take my remote away, im falling asleep through it this time. you're all getting cancelled soon enough.

I read a column once about Russell Brand, the one quote i can recall from it was;
"just make sure you don't start your revolution when X-Factor is on the telly Russell, or nobody will turn up"
Says it all, in my humble opinion.
Just my 2p
Cheers. BB
"just make sure you don't start your revolution when X-Factor is on the telly Russell, or nobody will turn up"
Says it all, in my humble opinion.
Just my 2p
Cheers. BB

Prophetic bigga, do you think this latest one is any different?

No doc it was co-opted by political opportunists and sold out to corporations before it was old enough to shit by itself.

It doesn't seem like any of the protests are peaceful but are they all riots?

The whole thing seems so dystopian like when they show the news in a sci fi movie and the world is falling apart.

I wanna riot of my own!

We've got the Guns! :P

+23.8 votes
7 posts
Ghandi Knew We Are All Fucked
Ghandi Knew We Are All Fucked
The old Mahatma knew that Western Democracies were rigged and would turn to violence and intimidation to control an awakening population.

He also knew we can look after ourselves, between ourselves. World is coming out of a bad patch in history namely capitalism over 30-50 years. We are now entering the decentralised age, where peer to peer rules over robbing corporations and local compassion is paramount. Just like he wanted.

“Your Petitioner has seen the Location intended to be used by the Indians. It would place them, who are undoubtedly infinitely superior to the Kaffirs [FYI - K* is Afrikaans word for N* ], in close proximity to the latter.” - Ghandi
The great thinker was actually pretty fucking racist towards black as he considered them an inferior race. He was pervert. Gandhi called for his 18-year-old grandniece Manu to join him – and sleep with him. "We both may be killed by the Muslims," he told her, "and must put our purity to the ultimate test, so that we know that we are offering the purest of sacrifices, and we should now both start sleeping naked." - Ghandi
Great thinker ? I met a lot of people that despised him in my travels in India. A lot of Sikh’s especially, Punjab is the historic Sikh homelands in that spans across what is now Pakistan and India. A lot of Sikh’s wanted to establish their own homeland called ‘Khalistan‘. I think there are still Sikh’s today that feel like they got shit on by Ghandi.
It’s undeniable that he achieve tremendous things for the Indian people. But I think you may need to read up on him some more brother.
I was going to include the links but copy and paste from inside the quotes and it will take you to the guardian and Independent articles.
The great thinker was actually pretty fucking racist towards black as he considered them an inferior race. He was pervert. Gandhi called for his 18-year-old grandniece Manu to join him – and sleep with him. "We both may be killed by the Muslims," he told her, "and must put our purity to the ultimate test, so that we know that we are offering the purest of sacrifices, and we should now both start sleeping naked." - Ghandi
Great thinker ? I met a lot of people that despised him in my travels in India. A lot of Sikh’s especially, Punjab is the historic Sikh homelands in that spans across what is now Pakistan and India. A lot of Sikh’s wanted to establish their own homeland called ‘Khalistan‘. I think there are still Sikh’s today that feel like they got shit on by Ghandi.
It’s undeniable that he achieve tremendous things for the Indian people. But I think you may need to read up on him some more brother.
I was going to include the links but copy and paste from inside the quotes and it will take you to the guardian and Independent articles.

The secret rulers will purge the world before they let us be free.

Very interesting post,, the man was such a clear thinker.

+11 votes
3 posts

by
theStrokes
Government works only to the extent people give a shit

by
theStrokes
Government works only to the extent people give a shit
Local govs generally work better because they are limited to in your face realities.
Big govs have to earn our attention with wars or actively get in our business to be relevant.
Big govs have to earn our attention with wars or actively get in our business to be relevant.

Problems start when people give 2 shits.

+74 votes
8 posts

by
iron jizz
End of nations: Is there an alternative to countries?

by
iron jizz
End of nations: Is there an alternative to countries?
These scientists sure think so

I was disappointed by the article, there seems to be no awareness of distributed systems of governance like bitcoin.
Modern nations are basically about providing a trustworthy authority to govern commerce. Some countries like Singapore are especially good at this while others are left to shake downs like protectionism and arms manufacture under the constant threat of war.
Decentralised systems with no-trust elements (like bitcoin) or a reputation systems (like the one here) are the most logical apparent alternative to existing government.
Modern nations are basically about providing a trustworthy authority to govern commerce. Some countries like Singapore are especially good at this while others are left to shake downs like protectionism and arms manufacture under the constant threat of war.
Decentralised systems with no-trust elements (like bitcoin) or a reputation systems (like the one here) are the most logical apparent alternative to existing government.

true this

Here's a good article on this covering city states and other alternatives like floating cities

Sure it's what the nation's call "cyberspace" and they aren't going to allow it to be an "alternative" if they have anything to do with it.

To be fair the governments built cyberspace to begin with.

I don't understand the premise of a nation, when they say a nation competes what does that mean? Is there some kind of contest like the olympics? Who are the contestants representing each country? Who are the judges etc, it's all bullshit trying to describe after the fact people just going about their own lives. Who wakes up in the morning saying I'm representing say Chile today, and I'm going to beat those fuckers in Lithuania?

I think the hierarchical nature of nations leads them to the same problem as pyramid schemes; the more they grow the larger the disenfranchised base becomes.

+3 votes
1 post
Is Economic War Enough?
Is Economic War Enough?
If wars evolved from fists to production to technology
And war is already a great business without the misery part
And political systems are extensions of society and economy and both of these are cool with not killing a lot of people
Can we just all keep fighting over money?
And war is already a great business without the misery part
And political systems are extensions of society and economy and both of these are cool with not killing a lot of people
Can we just all keep fighting over money?

+4 votes
1 post

by
theStrokes
Cornell West on Neo Fascism

by
theStrokes
Cornell West on Neo Fascism
One of the most articulate and compelling philosophers in the English speaking world.

+56 votes
17 posts

by
blunt blower
Why are the governments of the US and Russia adversaries?

by
blunt blower
Why are the governments of the US and Russia adversaries?
The most powerful segment of the US economy was dependent upon the Cold War and when it was won conditions were not the same as after the defeat of Germany and Japan. After WW2 there was more upside in reconstruction than a rematch, this time no contracts for rebuilding were on offer and there was no new enemy to declare. "Terrorists" are in reality a very small and cheap adversary and linking them to more lucrative nation target is neither easy nor sustainable.
The same case exists with the Soviet/Russian governments, which have been in a state of war for the same period. With much tighter control than even the US wields over its corporate media, the Russian government makes war not only a business but headline news and entertainment, especially when other state controlled economic enterprises are failing.
Thus unless a credible new enemy is developed both military dependent governments need to maintain a level of antagonism in order to function.
The same case exists with the Soviet/Russian governments, which have been in a state of war for the same period. With much tighter control than even the US wields over its corporate media, the Russian government makes war not only a business but headline news and entertainment, especially when other state controlled economic enterprises are failing.
Thus unless a credible new enemy is developed both military dependent governments need to maintain a level of antagonism in order to function.

The US showed the Soviet Union it was willing to use the most devastating weapon in history directly upon innocent civilians. The Soviet Union was understandably touchy having just lost 1/3 of its population to war. Since then the US has shown no regret for its mass murders at Hiroshima and Nagasaki and has never experienced the ravages of an invasion but instead has consistently moralised to the rest of the world about how it should do things to be as righteous as the US.

If the US is such a horrible place to live then leave. You should fit in perfectly in Europe. Lots and lots of liberals just like you. I should know since l’ve been twice. It’s also where l plan on moving to in short order. l will be surrounded by people with your political leanings but they’re nicer than most people think. I have a problem with their beliefs, but not as people. I have friends l met there who never bring up the subject of politics.

Stalin already knew about the bomb when Roosevelt told him about the first test. He was expecting Stalin to react when he told him about it. Stalin had spys who told him about it. They had been working on the bomb. The US finally realized this after Russia detonated their first bomb five years ahead of the predictions by the defense department.

They lost more than 1/3 to Stalin’s reign of terror, due mainly to the fact that they had been disarmed. pk2 why don’t you put some effort into getting the facts instead of the liberal trash being spewed by mainstream media. They lost 25 million during WW2 and 40 million to Stalin’s tyranny.

5 million. That's the estimated number of wounded and dead had we gone with a land invasion. The Japanese thought it would happen as well. They were already well into preparing for that invasion. Given how they fought in previous battles in the pacific where few if any enemy personal(military and civilian) were captured alive, it seemed logical to think they would fight that way during an invasion on their own soil. Not invading and dropping the bomb instead saved lives, a lot of them.

If you believe that estimate I'd like to help you out with your pickup truck, I take bitcoins. The fact that Stalin killed all these people really doesn't have much to do about how Russians feel about invasion.
Naturally civil bloodshed is going to kill the most people just like it did in the US but this is no more relevant to the US relation with Russia than vice versa.
Naturally civil bloodshed is going to kill the most people just like it did in the US but this is no more relevant to the US relation with Russia than vice versa.

You’re not that bright, are you?! You’re the one who brought up Russia. Since when has Russia worried about being invaded? Putin has used it as propaganda on his own people. So, it’s oblivious you haven’t researched anything about Japan and the former Soviet Union.
You’re definitely a liberal. The first thing you did was insult me, just like a petty, obnoxious child. Yes, l live in Georgia and l’m originally from Texas. You’re a bigot, just like your liberal cohorts. Spare me from your bullshit. Good thing you’re most likely living on the west coast. If we were face to face, l would bury you. I’ve never been accused of being a nice guy. I used to be a dealer. I still keep in touch my good friend from South America. If l had a problem he would set everything back to normal. You’re a problem. Don’t be a problem.
You’re definitely a liberal. The first thing you did was insult me, just like a petty, obnoxious child. Yes, l live in Georgia and l’m originally from Texas. You’re a bigot, just like your liberal cohorts. Spare me from your bullshit. Good thing you’re most likely living on the west coast. If we were face to face, l would bury you. I’ve never been accused of being a nice guy. I used to be a dealer. I still keep in touch my good friend from South America. If l had a problem he would set everything back to normal. You’re a problem. Don’t be a problem.

5 million casualties was the number presented to Truman by his generals. It’s the reason he authorized the use of the atomic bomb. This is common knowledge. You’re just making a fool of yourself. Next time make sure you have all the facts before you reply to one of my opinions. Better still don’t bother me again. It’s becoming tedious.

It's an important fact that one nuclear bomb was not enough to bring the Japanese to surrender.

Exactly, pk2 must be studying revisionist history, most likely being taught by a feminine hygiene product that has spread across every university campus in the country.

I could give a shit about anyone's opinion on this but I do give a shit about trolling. You have to make your point without this here, we will not let this community degrade this way.

You demand that l adhere to social norms and yet the left has no problem with lying or insulting someone just because they don’t believe what you believe. Grow up. That’s one of the reasons why littlebiggy was created. To share opinions. Most professors are douchbags. 95%+ of them have far left liberal blood. The douchbags declared it themselves. I will continue to state my opinion as l see fit and you can throw your temper tantrum to your hearts content. I won’t be silenced by you or pk2 and the rest of your political correctness. I’m too old to give a shit, but l won’t tell anyone here what they can and cannot say when it comes to their opinions because l will still state mine in any manner l choose.

Yer Russians are as ruthless as any pirate me eyes have ever seen.

Definitely! Putin was head of the KGB and now he’s one of the richest people in the world. He didn’t get it by being a nice guy. He’s a thug, plain and simple. The Russian mafia is controlled by former members of the military and the KGB. Most of Russia’s billionaires got their money by nefarious means. I would like to know how many nukes are missing from their arsenal. Think about what would happen if a nuke was set off in Washington DC with the president, vice president, all the top brass and both houses of congress in DC. It would be chaos. We’d be a easy target and temptation would be too great for China and Russia to resist. We’d end up basically becoming their property. In other words, their slaves. The USA would die. The liberal agenda wouldn’t help protect us with their open border bullshit. It’s beyond my understanding why people can’t see that the Democrats in DC put themselves first and their lobbyists, Hollywood elite, and the rich. The unwashed masses would be on the bottom rung. We already are in some aspects, but there’s still time to divert this and something has to be done with the feds first, otherwise we’re doomed. That why l can’t understand why people fall for their bullshit. Anyone with common sense should be able to see through this madness. I feel the same way about the Republicans. Paul Ryan has shown exactly that they’re the same as the Democrats. It’s all about themselves. I plan on moving overseas in the near future because of all the shit that’s happening. I’ll watch from the far sidelines how everything unfolds. It doesn’t look good.

what about Russian Pirates?

A new nation in Europe: Liberland (nyt.com)
A disputed territory on the Danube has created a loophole through which a new state might be created.

Here is an interview with the founding father

It's an interesting governance system, taxes are voluntary but the more you pay the more votes you get.

That's the thang, it's not corruption it's straight up.

Replace votes with campaign contributions and you are describing the united states.

“If you have enough collateral to pay for the damage that you have created, you might not even go to jail because the people that you have hurt could be compensated from your collateral,”
Replace "Pay for the damage you have created" with "Pay your lawyers" and you are describing the United States. :)
Replace "Pay for the damage you have created" with "Pay your lawyers" and you are describing the United States. :)



Here is an update from their US representative.