Agree with this! Just moved to the U.K. from the states and started listening to more U.K. rappers. I was over the new “kids” in the states. Maybe I’m just getting old but it all sounds the same. That said, US 90s rap will always have my heart!
shed you know the deal lol! but there is no way we can put this down to ONE best uk rapper, Klash & terra firma... MUD fam, That arab uk guy from deal real days cant remember his name but TOP lyricist, Too many to mention TBH,
Shit even used to bump pound sterling and RSG. So much styles in the UK rap scene over the last 15 years its hard to say whos the number 1!
That parrowdice album is absolutely timeless never get bored of listening to it, pound sterling use to like some of his stuff from back in the day? Can you remember channel u, that was on sky, had all the upcoming young english talent, use to watch religiously, use to have some mad guys on there!!!!
Great shout there - were you also a Yungun fan? He’s back with new stuff under ‘Essa’ - still awesome! Also used to bang Universal Soldiers every single day - going to put it on now in fact, happy Friday all!
Yungun! Yeah man, he had a phat album with Mr Thing called GMB (grown man business) and he got a song on there called 'peter pan syndrome' which actually makes my heart bleed.... that dude is an entertainment lawyer now!
Top album!! Yeah man that’s crazy isn’t it!! Wiccaman theory by Chester P used to get me like that! The ten pound bag mixtapes were brilliant too. Loving this thread, now reminded me of how much I love Dabbla and LDZ, having a great day :D
Ten pound baaaaagggg...oh my days... the problem with smoking so much weed is I forget too much music lol...damn, louis slipperz on the mix...some of the beats of those were mind-wreckingly phat...man, I got to dig those out...yeah, loving this thread too man, nice to know I'm not the only one still rocking out Taskforce and Skinnyman and shit...oh shit...Sway...remember that cat? He did the tune over the car racing tune..ah shit...memory lol...I know the one, think it was called 'up your speed', so many bangers lost to the pit of my weeded memory lol...
Bullet from a guuuuuuunnnnn!!! Derek B was the fucking man, he must have been one of my first UK hip hop heroes! Ahhh, this brings back memories..who remembers Normski?! Cannot for the life of me remember the show he had on tv for a while but I fucking loved it...
Some greats already mentioned! but Dizzie rascal has to be in there for me! . Stefflon don , Jaykae and Bugzy Malone have some tunes too. Could be cheating but 21 savage as well I’m sure I saw he was from Newham originally?
I think he is you know!!! Who was the the other mc how was orginally in the newham generals, cant remember his name to stoned!!! Haha, ive even seen him live aswell at show at london dungeons, my mate won vip ticketsto see them and dizzee and jammer!!! Only 200 people whata fucking night that was!!! Still cant remeber his name!!! Haha
I'm younger than some on this thread so don't know too many old school UK rappers. Mainly like old American rappers/mcs from the 90s, but would also give a vote to skinny man. Council Estate of mind is one my favourite albums of all time and its criminal he's not better known (In the mainstream).
If we're talking about modern day.. casisdead is currently the best in the scene/UK in my opinion, bar none. Can't wait for his new album to drop.
It’s all a bit mid 2000s Roll Deep etc. Good proving grounds for the future, some good MCs came out of it, but in itself it’s pretty shit. I mean compare that to some Wu Tang shit, which I guess would be the New York streets equivalent 15 years earlier... doesn’t even compare.
As everything this is a matter of taste, I do not consider that my country is really a rap nation but we had some good ones in 90's / 2000's like IAM, Fonky Family La Rumeur, Alibi Montana.... Another example
Crowd was bananas, show was over sold, security got rushed multiple times, police abandoned the area, chaos for hours, fights inside the venue everywhere, open weed and crack smoking, coke sniffing, displays of weaponry, dudes getting properly jacked up for their whole shit right in the crowd inside and outside...I got robbed at knifepoint myself...lost a few quid, kept all my blood lol...
Venue was Brixton Academy, about 90/91 I reckon, whatever year it was that 'The Mirror' put Snoops picture on the front page and called him an evil bastard in the headline lol....think it was to do with him being on bail for murder at the time...
Dre and Snoop opened with 'Deep Cover' in pretty much pitch black....crowd went fucking super nuts...no word of a lie, in the first minute and a half of that song about another half dozen serious fights broke out all over the place, people running through swinging shit like woah....fucking mad shit, dre and snoop only stayed on about 45 minutes as the whole shit was out of control so they pretty much fled...crowd went even fucking nuttier...
Took fucking hours to get out of Brixton, full on road block grid lock chaos madness...
But. That 45 minutes they were on stage was honestly one of the most electrifying things I have ever seen...Dre was already a seasoned performer and Snoop was still a kid and was completely fucking amped up and rocking this huge afro that made him look kind of crazy and he was completely into stoking the fuck out of the crowd which didn't help the situation lol....
I been to a lot of hip hop shows over the years but this was on some other fucking level of mad...
Notable mentions go to KRS One, Cypress Hill and Public Enemy - seen all of them multiple times and they are some of the best live performers around, their shows never disappoint and they know how to move the crowd...
I been lucky man, seen so many amazing shows, Redman, Keith Murry, Das Efx, The Fugees, Onyx, Public Enemy, KRS, Funkdoobiest, Cypress Hill, half of Wu Tang (lol...)etc etc....pissed I never saw Pac or BIG though....I am biased but the 90s hip hop scene is the golden age for me man...give anything to go back and do it all again....
Yo this threads my jam. Who's sparking the blunt!?
My most notable concert. Rock the bells NYC can't remember what year. maybe 2016
Nas headling. DJ Premier and Pete Rock had a live beat battle. Cypress Hill on beforehand fucking smashed it, Mos Def and Talib Kwali are Blakstar before that.. Wu - Tang stage, got to see all the members apart from ODB. Mobb Deep were on their stage too. Lauren Hill played and brought out Pras and Wyclef to do some Fugees tracks. Can't remember who else but there were more.
Daaammmnnn.....would love to have seen a Rock The Bells...they do quite a few of those full on 'mega tours' in the States...The 'Up In Smoke' tour would have been fucking awesome to see... Nas is one I never caught and would love too, Mobb Deep too...that must have been an awesome experience man.
Ha, the Fugees! Man they rock a live show. I actually saw the Fugees before they were big, they were actually playing as support for Das Efx lol!!! And first support at that, at like 9pm, real early, think it was K-Solo and Redman as 2nd support before Das on that one.
Yeah...it was at Subterania in West London, was funny actually....place is all hip hopped out, all carhart hoodies, tims and oversized jeans and bad attitudes lol then the fucking Fugees rock on to the stage and broke out the instruments and you can literally hear the 'what the fucks' all over lol...but shit....they started with Temple and it banged the fuck out the place...
Was very cool being such a small venue, at one point Lauren Hill was literally 4ft from my face on stage when she did that tune with the chorus 'some forget harlem' (I forget the name, very cool song) and I could actually hear her singing straight out her mouth kind of thing, (If that makes sense!?.. But like I could hear it before it hit the mic sort of thing..) and damn...raw, raw talent and soul and well....stunning woman visually you know...fried my weeded brain at the time, I was just like dazed out for 5 minutes, like ahhhhh, damn....lol...Saw her again at a sold out Wembley arena 10 years later...couldn't barely even see her on stage from my pauper seats lol...watched the whole thing on the side monitors...not the same...fuck the fame lol...
Went to see Cypress Hill at Barrowlands Glasgow last year and it was immense! Two of my favourite tapes ever Cypress Hill - Cypress Hill and Black Sunday!
Also last year went to the Blastoff Tour Gig which was great fun although a bit commercial with the likes of Shaggy (who was shit haha)
Nelly, Salt N Pepa (They were soo good man! lol), Shaggy, Mya and Blu Cantrell.
Hosted by Fatman Scoop and included exclusive appearances from UK garage stars So Solid members Lisa Maffia and MC Romeo, scene pioneer MC DT and the British duos Oxide & Neutrino, DJ Luck & MC Neat and Sweet Female Attitude.
The best rap show I never made was Tribe Called Quest ?
Beastie Boys - Wembley Stadium 1999 Supported by the Jungle Bros
Was my first proper Hip-hop gig
Glastonbury the same year (I think). Jurassic 5, The Roots, Everlast and Cypress Hill (pre-beef), Scratchperverts, DOOM, Slum Village, Black Twang (with Rodney P, Skinnyman and some of Mudfam), and I've a vague recollection of seeing either Cash Money or Prodigy but can't be certain.
This is very hard.... but Skepta in Dublin 1 year ago... man Shutdown the place. A close second is Joey Badass in Dublin 3 years ago at the Olympia Theatre.... never forget he told this small blonde girl that things were about to get heavy.. so move to the back... she didn't... she got crushed..had to be carried out. Good Times, good times.
Very true, beats have always been a bit behind for hip hop in the uk. Pete cannon is the don, illinformed, dirty dike, leafdog all top contendors. One to watch out for is Enki23 got that old skool boom bap sound, he did have alot more up but this is all i can find of him now. https://soundcloud.com/enki-23/enki-dirty
Best new rappers 2021 gotta be RX Papi and RXK Nephew, the new dynamic duo. Shawny BinLaden, Lancey Foux, SoFaygo, Jean Dawson and Sematary all go fucking crazy. Detroits new wave is hitting its stride with Sada Baby, Teejayx6, Kasher Quan, Babyface Ray and many many others. Young Thugs many kids (artistically- and in five years the biological ones too) are all on constant rotation, Lil Baby and Gunna run shit but don't sleep on Keed and Gotit. Playboi Carti made two genre-defining albums back to back. Maxo Kream and Sauce Walka killing shit in Texas. Sahbabii is as horny as ever and Young Nudy just as murderous and devilish. You may know them from memes, SpotemGotem is fine just okay but Pooh Shiesty is a young legend in the making mark my words, reminds me of Young Dolph and Gucci Mane. Lucki, Sosa, Future n Uzi stay doing their thing. I can't wait to see what Kanye has in store with us. Bladee and Black Kray have turned a corner and embraced happiness and optimism. Rap is doing great right now
Ngl I didn’t really rate him( his music not my taste ) but fuck me that guy can freestyle , proper off the dome , amazing word play and keeping the flow at all times , credit when it’s due , the guy was super talented. Love this one! https://youtu.be/OGpJ5tisxqc
tupac had the charisma of a rock star and gravitas of a rebel leader. a great story teller but not as great as mr wallace i think and puffys beats are more consistent than the work of tupac's producers.
Yeah. And anything that Puffy “produced” was made by someone else. Don’t get me wrong, puff daddy was a producer but only in the sense he brought the ingredients together... the ingredients being MCs and producers. The majority of stuff that came out on BadBoy records was produced by The Hitmen (featuring legendary producer Easy Mo Bee) of which he did head up but as more of an organiser than anything else.
Gotta love the one douchebag (Itche) who downvotes but adds absolutely nothing to the discussion. If you’re going to downvote (a comment of personal opinion of all things), at least add to the discussion by posting your own opinion why you disagree.
I don't think downvoting a post when you're too busy to reply makes you a douchebag. Ease up a bit man, a downvote is hardly a slap in the chops now is it? Spark an L and chill.
As for reasoning it's quite simple. Biggie is respected far more widely as a lyricist than Pac. That doesn't mean you can't enjoy Tupac more than Biggie or anyone else for that matter. Music is subjective and what appeals to one person may not to another. That's the beauty of it!
I find the list above massively lacking anyway and it blows my mind that Pac and Biggie get almost singled out as the greatest dead rappers. As Nowherematt mentions bellow there's not even a mention of MF DOOM at all or.... Big Pun, Prodigy, Phife, GURU (?!), Sean Price, Dilla, Heavy D, Adam Yauch.
The influence the guys above had on hip hop is absolutely insane.
Rick Rubin changed my life - or at least had a big influence on my musical taste. I vividly remember hearing Slayer's Reign in Blood for the first time back in '87. I was gobsmacked! 28 minutes of total mayhem - it never occured to me you were allowed to do that on a record! Along with Electric by The Cult, and Licensed to Ill by the Beastie Boys, to name but a few, he has helped provide the soundtrack to much of my life.
I got hooked onto hip hop when I first PE LP and Ice Cube's Amerikkka's Most Wanted got released, so a long ass time ago. I think Rubin worked on Fear Of The Black Planet with PE. Their first 5 LPs are classics in my library
alot of american new "rap". has a major accent advantage. The accent compliments the tune. You can put a UK guy on a american beat and he'd kill it. Can it go vice versa? https://littlebiggy.org/link/YNZ9cj
I'm sure this will be divisive but which do you think is better UK or American rap? Personally I think American Rap has been better for the past few decades but I do think UK rap is growing and getting better day by day. Any thoughts on it?