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Free Samples
I have some real concerns about free samples on little biggy. I understand they are a great thing and that in many ways the best form of marketing for everyone. But

#1 is free drugs for kids. I realise that lots of kids are clever enough to get their hands on bitcoins but the fact is that bitcoins are hard to deal with and a huge filter for who comes here, much more so for people without adult ID.

#2 It's done in exchange for reviews. Don't get me wrong the quality of experience posts around here is great and getting better all the time but the fact that you have to buy in order to review is a way to keep shilling under control. There must be a balance between mechanical feeling reviews and some of the off putting advertorial I see around here.

One thing I have noticed around on little biggy is the more conscientious and self policing we are the fewer borg/algorithms we have exercising blunt (no pun intended) authority.

On second thought I now intend to make that pun and exercise a blunt right about now. Yes.
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Srfcsean
Srfcsean9/10
This thread is gone totally out of control now :( :(
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Frankotherasta
Frankotherasta
It’s actually pretty funny now, guys got a real thing for me
Huck Finn
Huck Finn10/10
What a great thread, honestly!

Long time observer of the LB community and new seller here. About half of our reviews came from "freebies" - To be clear we asked for an HONEST review of the product, customer service, and stealth.

I totally agree with you in ways, but at the same time I would love to share my point of view as both a seller and buyer:

1 - I personally do not like buying things from sellers or items that do not have reviews. I want to make sure the item I will be receiving matches the pics and description and I also want to be sure the item will actually be shipped and received

2 - I do agree "freebie" reviews skew seller/item ratings (early on)- BUT it is the sellers responsibility to maintain the ratings by continuing to deliver on what was reviewed and is promised. Lets remember ratings and reviews are public - 1 negative review can ruin the 10+ positive ratings on that seller/item. And 10 freebies is not a cheap fix! So you better make sure you stay consistent with what you are offering if you want to continue to grow your sales

If someone who has great reviews starts to slack off, the community will know about it and they will see a big hit in sales. So I do give freebie reviews some merit - but end goal is to build trust in the community with our products we offer and ourselves as a provider

Some of our freebie recipients have already re-ordered and have generated full priced sales and reviews (seems like our biggest blocker is US shipping only -_- )


Its definitely been a slow start here but we take pride in our products and we use every review (as well as awesome threads like this) as feedback for all aspects of the business (shipping, stealth, communication, learnings, etc.)

We hope giving out a few free samples didnt offend anyone here. We love you all LB thanks for having us here and for all of the great convos we've had with you amazing people :)
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epix
epix
Well said.
Jamieeg420
Jamieeg420
We need to stop with all the drama here on lb, noticed alot here lately . Everyone should be grateful we found this community..
Frankotherasta
Frankotherasta
My fault guys sorry went off on one, got triggered just a little. Promise I’ll be nice from now on. :-)
BOUGHT a few lovely looking products today and plan to review them later in the week. Peace and love to all my biggies
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Frankotherasta
Frankotherasta
Actually loving this post now
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bigbarz
bigbarz
You have a point. Noted. Good perspective. Cheers.
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doc holiday
doc holiday
so true but then it seems like sometimes you gotta go through shit to be even better. so what you are saying is both 100% true and conflict free in my opinion.

the self seriousness is what triggers me, to fuck with that.
GiggleCheeks
GiggleCheeks
I don't know why there is an arguement here? Although I understand all sides of it from what I have read on here, just my own opinion is that the reviews are there for people to read and either be influenced or not. You have your own individual mind that can make decisions for you, regardless of opinions. And those that don't want reviews, then just do not read them, it's so simple and logical that it blows me away that normal folk can't grasp the basics.

If you are easily influenced or upset by reviews stay away from them, but no one should strangle freedom of speech EVER, or presume to dictate what people should and should not see, or do. And as for kids, if they can get bitcoin and get on here and buy and smoke, then my first question would be how? then which adults are responsible and where are their parents? Parents should take the responsibility to police their own children, instead of trying to change or stop information that public adults may need on here. It's not that hard your kid will smell like weed !!!!!! for miles !!!!! lol :) ask the poor kid how he/she is getting it, then stop it.
bigbarz
bigbarz
Frank (and others like him) objectively help the community to an extent that greatly outweighs any hurt they are perceived to inflict. (Either purposely, or via unintended consequences.)

What is the real problem here, succintly stated? And what's the solution to whatever that problem is? Would it be to stifle Frank in order to remove the very remote possiblity of any harm he might inflict? Shut him down in order to protect the fragility of some individuals who might feel a little left out? Why and at what cost?

The cost would be all the value that Frank brings to this site and community. He is providing a service for all users here. Disincentivizing him to continue this service through unfair criticism won't rectify much of anything, but it is likely to make this site less informative and fun. Accusing the Rasta of shilling or whatever, isn't itself a service to the community. It's just the opposite.

I've dabbled in leaving a few reviews for fun. Always of items I purchased. I don't think that reviews of free samples are necessarily invalid however, and I don't think there's a super compelling example of shilling on this site. If Frank received a few free grams here and there, so what? It's peanuts for the value and time he adds.
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doc holiday
doc holiday
frank as posterboy is my favourite part of this for some reason. reminds me of someone i grew up with.

had to bury that chap though, you hang in there virtual frank.
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epix
epix
Well said and I agree. I've enjoyed reading his reviews and his input into the community as a whole.
Frankotherasta
Frankotherasta
Oh peter what have you started, lol
Frankotherasta
Frankotherasta
Someone send these guys a freebie please maybe calm them down., think they are feeling a little jealous or left out, maybe pissed cos no one seems to value their opinion. Why to big up the community guys
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Seno
Seno
I really like your reviews and feedback Franko. You are very active on here and it shows you are passionate about the beautiful ganja. I know if Franko gives his seal of approval then I won’t be let down. Keep up the good work mate and try and forget about this isolated negativity. LB is a wonderful place to be enjoyed by like minded people. We should be thankful we have a place like this.
Frankotherasta
Frankotherasta
Tell you what guys if you don’t like my reviews, don’t read them.very simple. If you don’t trust what I say don’t read buy blind and sort it out yourself. As I said I have got about 6 items free to try and tell buyer i like product before they list.(sellers seem to value my opinion)was never asked to do a written review any samples but did so on my own bay because I liked what I was getting. The two I didn’t review were never listed for sale so can’t see any problems here. My reviews are for people who know me through here and trust my judgement. I’m not going to start a pm every person I think will like something, I leave a review and people who trust me read it. Really sounds like people are pissed they aren’t getting anything free. I don’t lie about products or deceive anyone and am getting a little offended by all this. I can just stop reviewing anything if you all like as it’s my time and effort, people don’t value them then what’s the point!!
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epix
epix
I honestly don't understand all the kerfuffle here. I really like reading and writing reviews myself. I haven't gotten anything for free, but I like to tell people about something good that I've found.

As you said, if some don't like them, don't read them * shrugs *
jurassic snark
jurassic snark
There's a really simple answer here: at the start of every review the author states exactly how they obtained the item. Then it's up to the reader what to do with it.
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formal frac
formal frac
this.
Frankotherasta
Frankotherasta
I love free samples, I make it quite clear to anyone offering I will give an honest review if I like it and if I don’t I just won’t review. I love reading proper reviews of products before I buy and the feedback option doesn’t let people go into enough detail which can be achieved with personal reviews. I have bought many items because of sample reviews and never found any that were far from the truth when I purchased myself. As for the free drugs then it would be just as easy to buy them also. The vendors usually will only send samples to people with good long standing rep and have had previous purchases from them which to some extent rules out the kids. To be fair there isn’t much on this site that would harm any kid old enough to figure it out although I don’t condone it, I started Toking when I was 14
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doraX
doraX
Make us some videos!
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Frankotherasta
Frankotherasta
Yeah not so sure about the videos, littlebiggy doesn’t have the ability to upload vids direct so would need external link to YouTube which would be way too easy to trace any videos uploaded to an I.P address. It’s o.k to link to random vids you haven’t uploaded but to link to something you upload would mean linking to a personal YouTube account. Pictures are ok as l.b process them during upload and remove all background data
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Imoneverything
Imoneverything
Does Youtube allow that?
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GiggleCheeks
GiggleCheeks
there is also weedtube don't forget. and yes I have seen weed reviews on youtube but they get demonotized.
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bishops of glory
bishops of glory
yes i think this is the next level, would legitimize the reviews further
Jamjarjim
Jamjarjim
Spot on Frank, detailed reviews are in some cases more of an advert than the actual advert.
~xenia~
~xenia~
honestly I don't see the point in free samples for us as buyers, sure it good for the sellers as marketing. PeTeR also brings up a good point ive never thought of before and I think I agree.
and anyway reviewing items on your personal preference is pointless and irrelevant to me. what you like or what your standard is, is probably completely different from mine. ive ordered item people say "best I ever had" and turns out it worst I ever had! or if someone say "best taste ever" and turns out it tasteless to me! I have experienced this over the years I been here.
reviews should be on stealth, communication, sellers description accuracy, item photo was actual item received but never on your opinion of the item. and that's my opinion!!!
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Highlander
Highlander
A sample should just be used as a tester for a potential purchase. Leaving a review for a sample shouldn't go. I wonder how many samples that received a good review have resulted in a purchase of that product.
~xenia~
~xenia~
yes I agree Highlander. as a buyer a free sample review is useless to me and may even be negative if I end up buying the item and disagree with the review. which often I have. because we all have different standards.
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Frankotherasta
Frankotherasta
I value like minded peoples opinion, if a hardcore toker I’ve known for a while on here likes something it’s pretty much a given I’m going to like it. Well so I’ve found so far.
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~xenia~
~xenia~
I respect that and well that's different obviously, if you know the person and they know you. that should be a private message not a review for full community here. its just a way for people to scab a freebie and a bit marketing for seller. nothing valuable in it for me as a buyer as far as your personal opinion goes. apart from the transaction but we not talking about regular reviews here (the regular reviews are the key to biggy success)
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blackdragon00
blackdragon00
I totally agree with the reviews being prioritised on different factors being stealth, communication, accuracy of product and the fact that the item is what’s in the photo and that I received it, opinion wise I think it’s good to leave your thoughts on the product, but it can be off putting and does ruin it a little so I see what you’re saying there, but if I don’t give the seller my opinion then they won’t know whether I like it or not and will do repeat purchases with them or whether I would like to see that certain product in stock again. Sometimes that has happened though I see top reviews for a product I try it and it’s shit, but I still leave a 10/10 review due to the factors I just wrote down, but it’s unlikely that I will buy from them again just due to it not being to my taste.
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Frankotherasta
Frankotherasta
But then the review is there for you to comment and leave your opinion. The review of product usually includes details about stealth, comms, delivery times and the benefits as buyers is simple, it’s free. I like to hear other people’s views on a product before I buy it. I wouldn’t buy anything from amazon, eBay, b&q, Screwfix without reading other peoples reviews on products and I feel the same here, gives me confidence in buying. I also review loads of stuff that I buy as I said if I like a product stands out or I like it I will do a review for others. Can’t realky see how this is harming others. I just don’t like buying blind.
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~xenia~
~xenia~
nobody is question regular reviews here, we are questioning the point of free sample reviews.
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epix
epix
I agree... I don't buy anything online without reading reviews.

I've obviously made exceptions on here, however I would love for people to post more reviews on here in general. I try to write at least a little something about every item I buy that I like. Let people know that this is a solid buy.

I do get the concern for shilling on here, however I think people that aren't genuine and are shilling will quickly be taken to task by the users of LB. That's what makes this place special, it's the users and how the self police.
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~xenia~
~xenia~
nobody is questioning reviews. I always read reviews to. that's why biggy is what it is. free sample reviews is what we are talking about here. they are usually bullshite based on someone opinion of a item which is a negative thing for me if I buy based on your review instead of facts like a picture and honest description from seller and item below the standard you expressed.
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Highlander
Highlander
What i noticed concerning reviews is buyers not being honest with delivery times. They talk about delays but give the seller a 1 day delivery because the seller gave them a top up. Thats not right and deceives other buyers from knowing the true delivery times. Or buyers changing reviews because the seller sent them a free smoke for the initial buy being shit. Lack of honesty and its concerning
mrspock89
mrspock89
Well said mate.
Iv had a few samples to review an always made it very clear I write what I like not to get free smoke or boost sellers up. With my reviews an scores for all my orders I put my name so people can ask me why I gave that score ect as I'm always proud of every score an no amount of free stuff can change that.
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citizen lame
citizen lame
I'm curious how many of these have resulted in a non-review?
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mrspock89
mrspock89
Just once
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Frankotherasta
Frankotherasta
I have had two strains didn’t think made the cut but I usually find a vendor isn’t goin to send out bad weed to be reviewed, usually only when it’s something special and they want people to know it is. That’s why very little will result in non review
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~xenia~
~xenia~
so you only review a fee sample if you like it? well I must say I totally disagree with that. this is a community mate come on. you obviously only want freebies and don't actually care about other users here.
Frankotherasta
Frankotherasta
Jog on pal, not worth talking to anymore, read through my comments see if you can get that tiny little mind around the facts of the free sample process
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~xenia~
~xenia~
you should tell the truth Frank. you should review the bad items aswell as the good item. I don't understand why you would hide the truth from this community??
Frankotherasta
Frankotherasta
How absolutely fuckin dare you question my integrity or place in this community, take a look at my profile dude I’m one of the most active users on here, just had a look at yourself and you can take your under active unfriendly ways and jog on buddy
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~xenia~
~xenia~
WHY SWEAR AT ME. YOU DONT KNOW ME OR ANYTHING ABOUT ME. YOUR PROFILE ON HERE MEANS NOTHING TO ME. NOTHING. YOU THINK YOU OWN BIGGY YOU CHILDISH FOOL. I KNOW PEOPLE BEEN HERE MUCH LONGER THAN YOU. YOU GO TO FAR WHEN SWEAR AT ME. KEYBOARD WARRIOR.YOU NOT SO TUFF IN REAL WORLD YOU SENSETIVE, NO SELFESTEM , NO CONFIDENCE DISRESPECTFULL HUMAN.
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Frankotherasta
Frankotherasta
Actually crying now, oh did I offend you, though only 6yr olds got offended by comments like that but hey your the man. Did I hit a nerve little buddy, not nice getting attacked online. XENIA THE KEYBOARD WARRIOR wasn’t that a program on sky
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Highlander
Highlander
To be fair youre just a buyer like the rest of us. Youre opinion is not more valid than anyone else here, we're all strangers on the internet after all. Perhaps you think a bit much of yourself i dont know but it comes across that way.
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~xenia~
~xenia~
couldn't of said it better myself
Frankotherasta
Frankotherasta
Jealous much, rep speaks for itself and experience of smoking for nearly 3 decades growing for a decade and busted with over 100,000 pounds of plants but hey what do I know. So maybe not exactly like the rest of you. I think no more of myself than any other respectable or civil person, but to be subjected to this abuse from someone who knows absolutely nothing about me makes me angry. Singled out for trying to help people. I don’t value my opinion, others seem to, have a look and see
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~xenia~
~xenia~
HA HA HA HA HA
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Frankotherasta
Frankotherasta
HO HO HO HO, merry Christmas, nobody cares dude. Enjoy your day.
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Highlander
Highlander
Its how you can across franko. See boasting about 30 years experience and for some reason mentioning you were careless when growing trying to make out your special with "not like the rest of you" comment. You know nothing about anyone here because most of us dont boast or admit our stupidity. If ive insulted you then i do apologise.
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Frankotherasta
Frankotherasta
Hardly careless when your best mate grasses you when he gets caught, he was the guy who taught me how to grow.I’m simply explaining why some people seem to value what I have to say, you say I’m no better than any other buyer and I agree but let’s say a joiner with 30yrs experience of his job and mistakes too, and a joiner with 5yrs experience of working, making mistakes. I’m gonna trust the guy with the longer experience, would you not? Kinda the same here, I’ve never claimed to be some kind of cannabis god but people asks me lots of questions here and I think that speaks for itself. Really think you’re being so rude, you really don’t know me or anything about my life or experience, I really don’t like your passive aggressive comments and rhetoric, think most can see this was a pure jealousy driven post to begin with
Frankotherasta
Frankotherasta
Ive also had over 200 purchases on this site
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Frankotherasta
Frankotherasta
Ha ha what a wally
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Frankotherasta
Frankotherasta
Weird comment, who’s hiding what??
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~xenia~
~xenia~
you said if your item received is shit then you don't review it. how is that postitive for the community? you ask for freebies so you can help the community but don't tell us truth when its shit.
Frankotherasta
Frankotherasta
Because I was never asked to review a sample that was live. I’ll make this simple as no one seems to get this the Vendor gets offered a new product from supplier and gets samples. The samples are then shipped on to people like me, we try if we like we inform vendor and item gets stocked. I will more than likely review product once live. If the items I didn’t review didn’t get listed I can’t see what the hell your talking about. Honestly is someone pissed cos they aren’t getting free shit. I also get stuff sent to me just for being a regular good customer, should I tell everyone that also, what about when I shit last you want to know that to. Really have had enough of this bullshit. Don’t like reviews don’t read them. This is a stupid distracting argument that’s gonna drag on a lifetime so I’m out bye bye
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Highlander
Highlander
All very valid points xenia. Dont review a shit sample incase the seller doesnt give you another freebie is how it looks
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Frankotherasta
Frankotherasta
Yeah that’s it dude that’s exactly what I do, lol
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Frankotherasta
Frankotherasta
See it as you want to, your still wrong. Again not really caring as obviously my thoughts aren’t aimed or intended for someone like you
Frankotherasta
Frankotherasta
I would like to make it clear if you check back my first lot of reviews were all products I purchased and just started doing them because I was just so impressed with everything I had bought. I like getting a convo going about the different things on offer. Peeps seemed to like my reviews and I then started receiving the odd freebie or sample to try along with purchases.Was kinda looking back there and I think I’ve had about 6 samples totalling a few grams. Honestly not pimping things as I think most on here who know me will tell you and to be fair I don’t get asked to do reviews to try them out and let the vendor know if I think they are worth stocking. Hope no one is offended or put of by any of my comment. Really not my intent, love littlebiggy and all you guys and I trust we can police ourselves sensibly in these matters.
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dooooy
dooooy
I like all your guys reviews please keep it up!

That said I would really appreciate:
1 full disclosure like Jurassic said in this thread.
2 some kind of ranking within your universe. If you are reviewing lots of items and saying kind things about all it degrades the value of each review.
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Frankotherasta
Frankotherasta
Can really see the community and the site losing appeal. Too many people, too many aggressive underhanded comments to many jealous big headed people who think they know better. The place is hitting the skids fast, have noticed this throughout the site.
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~xenia~
~xenia~
wow! I think the only snowflake getting worked up and angry is you sir. we all express our opinion here freely. why you think anyone has offended you is ridiculous. bigheaded? jealous? the only person dragging biggy to shiter is you
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Frankotherasta
Frankotherasta
Hit a nerve big man!! Lol, I really don’t give a damn what you think simples. My views are not aimed at you and I really don’t care what you think of me.as I have said the messages of support I got was unreal, 52messages when I logged on Monday morning so I know my place and how I’m viewed here. Have a good day buddy
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Frankotherasta
Frankotherasta
Thanks dude.
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Frankotherasta
Frankotherasta
Yeah!!
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Frankotherasta
Frankotherasta
Good for you buddy!
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Diesel2rider
Diesel2rider
If you leave good and bad reviews you are an independent reviewer. If you only leave good reviews you are an influencer. Nothing wrong with either, but it helps us buyers gauge things if we know 'what' you are.

Ignore the arguments pal, it will blow over. I've been here a lot longer than you and the site is the same as it's always been. There's always been spats and squabbles it's the internet! Though I agree there is a bad vibe in Britain at the moment!

On a personal level I liked it when you joined this site as you post a lot. Don't let any of this put you off, you are still very valued here despite any small criticisms.
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anders1976
anders1976
We all don’t get free samples they are selected at random we don’t go begging for freebies and if it’s below par in quality it’s said so not that anyone sending samples would risk sending crap anyway
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