we do not share your data with anyone and there are many ways to control the visibility and storage life of your data here.
but the internet is a public space and you should always assume your data could be compromised.
be smart with your password, use tor or a vpn, and use pgp for sensitive communications.
just playing devil's advocate here literally. and I know there's a zillion boomers right here on lb.
but we are shutting down the planet, this is the largest mutual effort in history. the only thing that compares is oddly enough, war.
in war old leaders decide to send young people to their death, wiping them out and their many potential offspring. yet the old are especially protected. this doesn't make sense in any societal or evolutionary way it just serves the self interest of the old - who happen to be the rulers calling this shot.
now the young are called up again, in history's largest timeout they will lose finances, jobs and sanity as they are terrified into submission to save .0001 of the population, nearly all of who will die from other causes within a few years.
im not really advocating we let anyone die, i am happy to sacrifice for them further than this but lets call this what it is, the story that is always hidden. self interest from the ruling class.
Kind of irrelevant IMO because as a species we are all doomed anyway, which I'm OK with, but it's shame we're going to take most of the biosphere with us though, as it's really no fault of theirs. We are species out of control and one which is destroying it's environment. The planet will be much better of without us humans stinking up the place!
I disagree strongly with the war comparison - that's not an example of a mutual effort, but the opposite: it's an example of large scale confrontation. People were called up to defend/attack from other people. MILLIONS of people died over YEARS.
This is a public health crisis, not a war. And the young haven't been called up, keyworkers, carers and health staff have. When I've been out and about with my family, it's fairly clear that the younger generations are the least bothered by what's going on, and aren't necessarily abiding by the guidelines to any effective degree.
And sadly, I don't think this is even something defined by the self interest of the ruling class. I think it's exposed the current ruling class is about as clueless as it ever had been. Johnson's flabby ensemble of random wankers have never at any point been good leaders. They got there off the back of a dishonest, divisionary Brexit campaign based on some entirely different agenda. They now have absolutely no idea what they're doing.
Hopefully it will serve as a reminder to humanity that if a democracy is to succeed, you can only back honest, able and skilled statesmen. Anyone less means we're fucked if there's any deviation from their intended narrative.
I don't blame anyone in this scenario. It's a collective human failure that it escalated to this scale. What I think matters now is the outlook, vision and ability of the leaders that might rebuild for the future. In 2019, world leadership probably never looked so weak... in the entirety of human history. And in the UK, we've currently got one of the most inept setups. BUT. Look at Starmer circling, look what we need to overcome, look what we want to build.
Give it a year or two and I think HOPE will be a usable word again. The Johnson/Trump/Bullshit breed need to move aside.
agree somewhat, the damage to economy is going to kill tens of thousands alone, potentially more than would be lost to Covid, but perhaps not (Not an expert by any means). I invite people to look at how many people died on average each 2010-2015 due to austerity measures and debt. Suicides will go up to.
I know my case is extreme, but its not just old people who need protecting. My son is 2 years old and immunocompromised from chemotherapy. I don't fully believe in the lockdown but it is a bit more assuring for me that it isn't running rampant out there.
The approach of "us-versus-them' is in fact a very European way of dealing with matters.
Indifference to social position, and consequently, acceptance of one's social status no matter what it is, became somehow a doctrine and a duty in the current world (if we are honest to ourselves): it is really the ideal philosophy, an ideological superstructure adequate to peacefully govern our world, conquered with its own consent.
'The old" send "the young" to wars. Because, "the young" (well, all ages really) willingly accept, for example, army duty. It is only natural, that in current situation, "the young" are contemplating 'retaliation'. :)
I think, the value of a human life became something very insignificant. Young people wait on the old to die in retirement homes, old are upset with the young, that they show no respect, etc.
A vicious circle.
And we do not really value human life, because we do not understand the concept of self-worth. Which is nowadays confused with 'pouvoir d'achat', like they say in french (ability to buy). Just look at who the majority of humans are looking up to (movie stars, ufc fighters, etc.)
The thing is, we are never independent or self-made, and we all hopefully will be old one day too. So what connects old and young is gratitude.
No life is more important than another, whether it is an old life or a young one. And no ideology or state will defend this point at all times, speaking sociologically or/and economically. It is self-damaging to an ideology or a state.
Should we or should we not do this or that? I don't know. Each individual should decide for himself. I know that generalising (oh those olds, oh those youngs, oh those russians, oh those arabs, oh those french, oh those - would be an insult to my own intelligence.
A boomer is different from another boomer. And i am a survivor and want my children to be survivors too.
I may be never be in a position where i can decide on a broader scale of "should we or should we not". But i can decide on my personal level and i just value life more than i value my ego.
Here is my humble opinion.
Thank you for being brave and raising this point. It is important to discuss without fear to offend. That is what freedom of speech is no?
I was gonna do my fantasy football team, but then I got high...
The Premier League is back! :D Who else is excited?
I didn't know where to put this topic but figured I'd stick it in stoned thoughts because I'm currently sat in the top1000 in Premier League Fantasy Football and was meant to do go and sort my team out today so I could make a top100 push but then a package landed ad guess what? I missed the deadline, missed the free wildcard and will probably be down to about a millionth position after the weekend lmao :P
It's been 2 days since the premier league ended now and I miss having constant football. Was just so nice to have at least 1 game every day. Champions league is back in a couple weeks so that will have to do, but it's still not as entertaining as the premier league.
Haha I'll have to get some tips from you for next season, I never do well in FPL. In fact I didn't change my team at all after the restart. Didn't even use bench boost or triple captain which was a major mistake. Still coming mostly 2nd or 3rd in my private leagues though so I'll take that. Defo should have taken the 3 leicester players out cos they really messed the team up after restart.
I haven't got this into FPL for years but was really enjoying it this season, currently down to 1746th :( but it's tight at the top! you're probably only a few points behind me mate, I'll be watching over my shoulder :P
Element 115 BTW. Created by bombarding element 114 with electrons untill it accepts a single electron into its structure, immediately becoming inherently unstable and releasing huge amount of radiation energy.
i hear you dude...i just signed up..waiting on orders...im still in the 'seeing is believing' camp...but seeing the comments here ..i can see im in the same boat as yourself and many others..hoped something might have arrived today..alas...decent heads here though i must say.
yeah I'm just waiting patiently as I know this time of year is manic for post I'm sure they will fall threw the door any day now and we will be absolutely cabbaged in no time. graham hancock is also another good listen aswell folks if you get a spare hour or 2. really makes you wonder!
I'd suggest the Aliens are not guilty this time and that these charges can be dropped on the grounds of there being no actual killer virus in the first place. I mean, yeah of course there are still nasties out there that can fuk your shiz up. But there is no deadly contagious virus sweeping the earth for which we all need to shut up shop and hide away. I knew it early on, but if I didn't, then I for sure did after Sweden.
The discredited and dirty WHO in conjunction with the lamestream mediocres are doing all that they can to sell round 2. People need to wise the fuk up, switch off from that bullshiz, and say fuk you en masse. We should all go outside and carry on our lives as normal. If the elderly and sick are worried, let them stay in
Plandemic 100%, all a hoax and conspiracy, said it from day one, control the masses for the new world order... number of EXCESS deaths.... who knows.... when a poor young girl gets kicked in the head by a horse and her death certificate says Covid then you realise what’s going on, thousands and thousands of cases like that... massive heart attack but had ‘Covid’ so a cold virus in your system then you died of Covid.... sick, old people die everyday sadly but doesn’t mean it’s from this made up disease... really research everyone and realise, no one anyone knows has had it, six degrees of separation and I still can’t find anyone anywhere that’s first hand had it, that’s odd.
With all the new discoveries of exo planets being found within the habitable zone of stars.. we seriously can't be the only life in our own galaxy never mind the universe.. what's everyone's view on this..?
No, we are quite clearly not alone.... I’d say it’s actually statistically impossible we are alone, our understanding of ‘life’ and where life can be sustained is based on organisms we know, all these uninhabitable planets are uninhabitable to us and to life we understand, doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist.
Great question; one that all of us probably think about often. However, I sometimes wonder if it's the wrong question. The question of life outside of Earth -- is it a red herring? If a miracle like life can arise in the Universe, what else might be going on out there in the Vast Wilderness? Is life the ultimate miracle, or could there be other fantastic things out there which are just as profound as life? Do we have a tendency to exhibit bias in our curiosity about ET life because we are life forms ourselves?
What other flavors of miracle might be out there? Is life just one of the many rare, yet possible, phenomena that can happen? Or is it the "be all end all" of fantastical things?
What else might there be besides life that is equally profound? I don't know. I'm just a glorified monkey with no access to warp speed. And I'm still waiting for the JWST to launch.
I don't think we're alone but maybe we are the most advanced civilization in our immediate vicinity because there is literally no evidence of life in the past or present that we can observe. If another civilization were peering in a telescope at our Solar System they would see satellites, etc. but we see nothing when we look outwards.
This could mean we're the most advanced or maybe we're so far behind that we cannot even perceive them. I mean does an ant really know what's going on when a human puts a cup around it? Imagine it turns out things like black holes are just entities taking a dump haha
Spent much time thinking about the Fermi Paradox when stoned
I'm going to disagree, looking at our age vs that of this universe it seems there's plenty of time to extend your reach across it. Surveillance from such an inter-dimensional intelligence seems almost trivial so why not, we might be entertaining every now and then.
"I don't think we're alone but maybe we are the most advanced civilization in our immediate vicinity"
Wholeheartedly agree. I also suspect that life is extraordinarily rare. Much more so than is probably assumed. If I'm right, then that makes the "immediate vicinity" you refer to even wider. Also, as you know, "vicinity" is a matter of time as well as space. If extraterrestrial observers of our home planet are any further than say... 60 LY from us, then they wouldn't see "satellites, etc.", or any sign of intelligent life.
I also think it's early days in the Universe. We are 13.5 B years in, with how many more trillions to go?
After all the shit that's being going on in the world up to now, no i really don't think we are alone in this universe, i hope one day that proof of other other life forms can actually be established, as i know that there are other planet's with a similar structure to earth that are indeed habitable, but getting to one of them is near on impossible, especially with regards to the type of technology we have as of right now.
I do not believe in conspiracy theories that aliens have visited Earth, but I definitely believe there is life out there somewhere. It's possible that life exists on Saturn's largest moon, Titan. There are some missions to Titan being planned to find out if life exists there.
I am a believer of the Multiverse theory, that there are other universes outside of our visible universe.
I highly recommend getting stoned and laying out at night looking at the sky. If you have binoculars bring them along! Telescopes are better but not everyone has access to one.
You can also download the free open source planetarium, https://stellarium.org/ I use it almost daily to see when the moon will rise and set, as well as planning out stargazing sessions.
We are all made of stardust. We are all connected.
If only nasa would be truthful and tell people what they know. Instead of hiding their findings. Cutting short live images from the international space station as soon as something strange fly's by.cum on NASA spill.
Of course there are other beings in the universe. Since we now know earth-like planets are quite common, and that 1 in every 10 stars have at least 1 habitable planet candidate, it would imply there are millions, if not billions of planets with life. Whether that is intelligent life or not depends on evolution and a number of other factors.
Space is getting smaller with the tech they have, it just keeps getting better the tech. Soon I think they will find some sort of life. I'm really confused at how they know how many light years away something is,cant get my head around that . Interesting article the other day on nasa site posted if your into your space news UK 420 10/10
There's got to be some other things out there. It would be arrogant of us humans to think that we are the only civilised life in the entire universe. I just hope when they make an appearance they've got some kick ass weed. Lol
Nature has a safety net design, if you make something unnatural, it breaks the inherent safety net. Thats why it’s impossible to eat too much iron from leafy greems amd u cant overdose on flower amd mushrooms
Thought I'd add my own two cents into this. I respect everyone's own view and opinions on the matter just wanted to make that clear. I watched a debunk documentary by two men named Michael Hieser and Chis White and it truly blew my mind. It's extremely interesting, factual and I would recommend watching the whole thing. If anyone wants to watch it here's the link: https://youtu.be/eeO3wm2y2zI
Hope every one is doing well in these trying times also!
I really don't know. I've watched documentaries on the theory but haven't made my mind up. I love hearing about alternative views though so I'm going to try Joe Rogan's podcasts mentioned in the conversation. It's kind of fun presenting theories like that to people you know are staunch nonbelievers. I like the reactions you get. I guess I'm open minded about that kind of thing until I get a first hand experience that confirms or denies it.
The evidence is everywhere. See the religious texts and reference to ships of light, fairy folklore Etc All the same phenomena but through different lenses in my opinion. Look for the books by Jacques Vallee. Unacknowledged on Netflix is worth a watch too.
Read some of Graham Hancock’s work or furthermore listen to the book of Enoch (the watchers), it’s not for everyone but a fascinating listen all the same. I have also been looking at the Megalithic masonry it’s mind boggling, Puzzle!
If you're in the UK, and still feel the same way today at 8pm (Thursday 26th March) you can join me and others to give our heartfelt thanks to the NHS for all their hard work and sacrifice at the moment.
Hell yes. And right now I'm feeling super empathetic to the people that don't feel this. If there weren't people like this the world would be a mess I think, they are people that are critical, precise and tough as hell on themselves. They set standards in this world and enable the rest of us!
Bioshock 1 was drippingly beautiful and draws you in. Dark room, good thumping surround sound cranked up, roll a few fattys. Great replay capability with the good or bad decisions and the array of different weapons and potions. One of the finest pieces of electronic entertainment to this day, including films. Noteables: Deus ex, last of us, elder scrolls,Halo 1. Its when you play them as well i think. There are more advanced games now, better ai, graphics etc, but such a wow factor for me at the time when i was a fanatic.
Like many others, 'last of us' will always stay in the mind and I'm eager to play no2. So many others worthy of note, but I'm also big fan of Horizon on ps4, such an excellent story and characters and possibly my fave of this gen.
Honorable shout out to 'Days Gone' which never got the praise it deserved imo.
The last of us, for sure. What an emotional journey. Really looking forward to the next one coming out. Can’t wait to dive into that. Really nice to have summat to look forward to in these trying times. Much love.
Metal Gear Solid on the PSone blew my mind, the other MGS got a bit preachy but the PSone version had everything, great game play, great stelf sections, good action sequences etc etc I still think about the bit where Psycho Mantis moves your controller, freaked me out.
It got shit on constantly but I fucking LOVED Destiny 1 and 2. The story was meh, but the game itself ran so smoothly and in my opinion was one of the best FPS games to come out in years. I did stop playing a few months back though because I just had nothing left to do in it.
D1 and d2 played well but they would, its a bungie shooter. But they felt hollow which is a shame considering the hipe before 1. The lore is really good tho if you can peice it together. But it should be in the game more. D1 tied me over quite nicely between borderlands 2 and 3 lol and I met some awesome people playing it
Shenmue on the Sega Dreamcast, written directed and produced by Japanese genius Yu Suzuki. Beautiful and way ahead of it's time. A teenth of Afghan black, Ericsson T18 on silent, while i roamed the streets of Japan. Those were the days!
Have you played the new Shenmue? Shenmue 3 I think? I played a load of the original on Dreamcast back in the day and bought the remastered version for PS4 that had 1&2 on it (wasn't as good as I remembered) intresting to know if 3 is any good.
Sounds weird I know, but do you think that cannabis attracts us to further itself? I mean it's a stationary plant that has very little means of spreading and evolving in the wild. But since we have discovered its usefulness for ourselves we have helped it evolve into what it is today. And In return it makes itself stronger and more controllable for our will. It is well known that plants attract bees and not the other way around so what's to say they aren't doing the same to us?
Evolution. There's no thought process behind it all...it just happens. Cannabis evolved to have flowers because birds and animals were eating the cannabis with the nicest flowers and spreading that about. Cannabis doesn't make itself stronger, its selectively bred to be stronger.
Have a look at what normal veg used to look like before selective breeding. Corn looks like a completely different plant than what it used to now.
Love this thought and it reconciles, we are serving cannabis' genetic purpose:
fecundity - more greenhouses every day fidelity - our buyer reviews maintain integrity longevity - humans have basically coupled their own survival to cannabis, as long as we are around it's going to be with us.
Oxford philosopher Nick Bostrum: "members of an advanced civilization with enormous computing power might decide to run simulations of their ancestors. They would probably have the ability to run many, many such simulations, to the point where the vast majority of minds would actually be artificial ones within such simulations, rather than the original ancestral minds. So simple statistics suggest it is much more likely that we are among the simulated minds."
All is revealed when you dose up on the dmt research chemical or plants/bark etc....and the people that have...know .... and those that do not partake in such chemicals or natural dmt, are still asking the questions. Simply put ... dmt shows you whats really going on. In my experience and understanding and many years navigating this 'life'. :)