I'm just fearing the day I hear David Attenborough has passed. I'll need to take an emergency week off work. As would most of the country lol

I read somewhere the other day that some kid reckoned that David Attenborough was really God and because people weren't paying enough attention to His creations He had to manifest in human form and make engaging documentaries so we'd understand how amazing it all was. I kinda like the idea

That's one I can't go with mate. Sid was just a poster boy. Couldn't play, couldn't write. Just looked good sneering in a biker jacket. For me the saddest thing is he is what people mostly remember about punk yet he contributed so little. He was a sad junkie. As for Nancy I recommend you read "And I Don't Want to Live This Life" by her Mum. It will break your heart.

Sad junkie lmao

Did you ask what peoples influences are just so you can rip on them? Thats pretty weak my guy, sid (john) was given heroin by his mother at 16, dudes life was chaotic and tragic, for him to pass at 21 from the drugs his mother introduced to him is horrible, the guy was gone way before his time which is what your post is about

Also it doesnt get any more punk rock than the sex pistols

By the way noticed you've been going back and voting down all my posts. Well if you're going to be that petty and childish then two can play at that game so will be doing the same to you. Have fun!

Sorry mate didn't mean to offend you. Just expressing an opinion as someone who was there in the 70s. Yes Sid's life was tragic, but as for punk he contributed very little other than an image. There was so many others that really meant something to the movement. John Ritchie was just a sad albeit good looking junkie. You choose your heroes mate, it's up to you.

Wholeheartedly agree.
Tbh I think the sex pistols have always been massively overrated and labeled iconic when you have bands like the clash with actual musical talent

Punk rock isnt about who has better musical talent

"The Clash recognized the Sex Pistols as the vital catalyst of the UK punk scene. They knew the Pistols were the first to detonate the mainstream rock establishment and grab national attention, opening doors for bands that followed"

The sex pistols were iconic

Oh well seems you'd rather vote my comments down than actually present a counter argument. Maybe you just need to grow up and get a life.

Punk wasn't about musical talent. In fact it was the opposite. That was the whole point. That said just being a pretty boy for the colour supplements as Sid was went against everything that punk stood for. Johnny was dangerous, Siouxsie was dangerous, Sid was a puppet.

Your post is about people who passed before there time and what peoples influences are

To just straight up rip on them for posting theirs is pretty foul, have another drink pal

Obviously people arent influenced by his bass playing skills alone but regardless he learned bass and a few months later was touring the uk and europe

him being an amateur bassist doesnt make his death any less tragic, which again, thats what your post is about, people that passed before there time

Oh grow up ffs. So I'm "ripping on" Sid Vicious. Maybe you need to look at the heroes you worship. Maybe you're just into the whole junkie chic, the shallow image without looking beyond it. He had no bass playing skills, it was purely his image that appealed to easily led people like you. The man had nothing else to offer. He was an empty shell nurtered and created by Malcolm McLaren to fool easily led sheep like you. Get a grip.

"Heroes you worship" lol he simply posted a picture of someone that passed before there time, wind down pal youve had a few too many tonight 😂 yes you did rip on him you just said he was a sad junkie that couldnt play bass

He was a bass player in a rock band he didnt need to be an extraordinary player and even if he was that wouldnt make his passing any less tragic, not surprised at all that in your other post you were talking about being lonely, what an arsehole 😂

Guy is now downvoting my competiton entries how sad lol

I actually just realised you wanker that you're not even the guy I was replying to. You're just some sad tosser thinking he's speaking up on someone else's behalf. You have a particular axe to grind for some reason?

Jesus you really are a tosser. And you're over doing the whole "had a few too many" thing. You're like a broken record. Try playing a different tune, or is that beyond your limited imagination? Face it mate, you're a dumb prick. Go fuck yourself. And in the meanwhile I'll keep on voting down your posts like you are with mine. I'm not proud of sinking to your childish level but whatever. You do unto me and I will do unto you.

So youre triggered because you know I'm right 😂 someone simply replied to your post with a person that passed before there time, to rip on said person because he wasent an incredible bass player is completely out of order, the guy passed at 21 doesnt matter how good at bass he was, put the beer down fella its monday night

I've only downvoted your posts on this thread, youre off your head haha

Guy just downvoted 27 of my posts and comments, hes clearly not well

Oh fuck off you pathetic little cunt. You're just a boring little troll shit and I can't be bothered with you anymore. You're probably standing for Reform in some election somewhere. A sad small dicked bigoted mysoginist still living with his parents and trying to big himself up on the web to make up for how sad his own lonely sexless small life is. Maybe you should just have another wank and go to bed now. Night night!

The high as fuck danger wank as the picture loaded line by line... I think the jankiness is part of the presentation of this site though mate. People look at it and move on.

Fair point mate but seriously you do have to ask yourself can't things be improved a bit. I know the old school look is part of the charm of the site but sometimes it can seem a little unnecessary. A bit masochistic almost. A little tarting up shouldn't be impossible and would hardly be expensive.

Being able to block people would be fantastic, as would some less volatile payment method. I joke about it, but I swear I lose money on almost every transaction, especially if I hold it between purchases.

Opposital digits. And biggy index. I use the former.
Sorry, not meaning to be sarcastic.

The little biggy index will refine your searches perfectly. Search for little biggy index. It will narrow your field.

I'd just got on the items page and press keyword and type 'microdos' then you will be left with any items containing the words microdose and microdosing. You can search for vendor if you know their name👍

https://biggyindex.com/

Good luck

https://littlebiggy.org/item/aK0GneSxzlQ0bfcFAaBZuFvj/view/p

TheFunGuys is working a charm for me and all you need todo is ask and all the guidance you need is offered 💚

I've been using RocketDogRonnie's 0.2g capsules for the last 2 years or so. They're consistent, keenly priced, and Rocket is always happy to give any advice needed via DM. They provide a mood lift and help me deal with highly stressful situations.

Thanks mate that's really helpful. All the best

No problem mate. Rocket will be fine with you sending a message about questions you may have before ordering. I just get another 30 when I'm close to running out. 4 days on and 3 days off worked best for me, or flip that to 3 on and 4 off. Or 1 on, 1 off, repeat. See what works for you. Then look into Stamets Stack, but I don't want to overwhelm you with information.

Maybe now is the time to accept that replacing one addiction for another won't cancel each other out?

I'm a true believer in that some people are into drinking, some into smoking, others into both. But regardless of your vice, having that desire to chase a feeling isn't something that'll get better by alternating the chase

Just some food for thought. Sorry you're feeling this way mate. Might be worth seeking out some help

I’ve always been a big drinker and I simply love the bloody stuff. Weed just entices me to drink more. I find it a great combination. Yup, 8% beers- lovely kegs of Belgian brews like Kwak, Leffe & Tripel Karmaleit are my absolute faves! All matched with super premium tequilas and bourbons- bloody lovely!

I used to drink every day of the week but now I take Mon-Thurs off and really enjoy the detox, good sleep etc and then pan it for the rest of the week.

Relax. Stop beating yourself up. Be here for a good time, you’ve already had a long time. ❤️😘

Always enjoy your comments mate. You speak a lot of sense. When my marriage ended like you I used to drink every night. Now through willpower alone I've whittled myself down to three evenings a week. It's not easy but I've kept to it a long while now. Of course on those three evenings I binge drink myself stupid. Last night I passed out around midnight and woke up in the armchair around 6am. Was coasting on Skol Super this evening but got bored so just been round the offie and bought a bottle of Scotch. I just need anything that will shut out the depression, boredom and loneliness for a couple of hours at least. Something to take me to a different place for a short while. Take care mate, I maybe wrong but I like to think you are a kindred spirit.

You may not want to hear this but you need jesus christ. Having faith in something bigger than ourselves can help us improve our lives exponentially by breaking us away from our vices. I've never been much of a drinker more of a class A upper kind of vibe but it got so bad I sold the 3 cars I had, lost my home and I shit you not tried selling the clothes I was wearing for a line. It all started to get better when I sought the lord. Even if you think I'm talking nonsense, you can only know if you try.
Stay blessed bigga

Thank you I appreciate your sentiment. I'm 70 now and have been an atheist all my life and will stay so until the end. That said I respect anyone's belief's and will defend their right to believe whatever they wish even if I don't share their views. Take care my friend.

We each believe what we experience and that is subjective to all of us. Making it to 70 and still finding things to enjoy means you've done something right. I pray you find a happiness true to you and like pollypuff said, dont beat yourself up too much brother.
Have a blessed evening

Lechuga why you down voting on a post helping a fellow bigga? This site is to uplift and get high not hate, you may have need to find your way back to reddit.

Maybe I disagree with something you said. Maybe you didn't give me time to respond

P rich calling me negative then proceeding to down vote every post I've ever made, make an alt account and repeat. For disagreeing with one comment

Get a grip you twat

the guy turned water into wine

He also turned heads with his rocking abs according to all church representations 😂

Have you considered psilocybin (magic mushrooms)?

Many people report that the experience allows them to see their addiction from a "birds-eye view," realising that the substance is no longer a necessary part of who they are.

It can also help individuals confront underlying trauma or depression that may be driving the addiction, rather than just treating the craving itself.

I've been trying microdose capsules from here, just a small, unnoticeable amount of magic mushroom powder added to capsules with other types of mushrooms like Lions Mane & cordyceps and the mood lift is very noticeable after a few days of consistent use.

Also tried a stronger dose over Christmas for the actual trip and that did have positive results long after the trip had worn off.

Have a look at some of the offerings on here, fungal-cate is a good supplier

By the way, I also have chronic tinnitus, the microdose capsules actually reduced the noise significantly, even stops it on occasion (which was utter bliss!)

Good luck 👍

Thanks mate. I've actually contributed to another thread on shrooms. To keep it short I bought a choc bar a few weeks ago with the intention of microdosing. Basically I haven't had the nerve to try it yet. It's 4g a bar divided into 15 squares so works out about 0.26g per square. So a very low dose. Trouble is even though it's so low I'm paranoid in case I have a weird reaction. And as I'm sure you'll agree paranoia is not a good state of mind in which to go experimenting with Psychedelics. So it's still sitting there in its packaging until I get the nerve up to try it.

don't seek the outer world,
go inside of yourself, have a look around and see what the fuck is up.
you'll need a key and a door:
a psychedelic and a willing Soul. (able to actually see the door (with shut eyes) and one brave enough to enter) the doorway leads inside.
eat a piece of that shroom bar and get the ball rolling, or else don't and then what?
find yourself, find your soul, understand where it originates and where its heading.

It's what it's all about mate...

I think I bought the same one - the Polka dot bar?
I haven't had shrooms for decades and decided to try the chocolate bar when I had a home alone weekend.
I had 6 squares, put some music on, relaxed and thoroughly enjoyed the experience, the positive, mood lifting affects lasted for a couple of weeks, maybe more after taking it, now I'm a regular micro-doser as it helps my tinnitus and the anxiety it causes.
Good luck & don't be afraid to try a decent dose, its really quite fun - music sounds amazing!

I also think I may have replied to you on another thread about the effect on tinnitus? Certainly replied to someone on the topic. In addition to depression I've suffered with screaming tinnitus in both ears for years. If I could find any relief from that it would be so good.

Yes the same one mate! Good to hear about your positive experience. I will go much lower than 6 and work my way up from there. Many thanks for your help

If you want to reduce your drinking further you could impose a minimum 2 days off between drinking days, this would turn ~150 days into ~120 days that's ~30 more days sober a year. Probably a few 3 day gaps to adjust when you want to drink on a particular day will only increase your sober days. Small adjustments to behaviour are easier to sustain.

For me I need nature and fresh air at this time of year, I am lucky to have this on my doorstep but if you don't get outside much try to get out and have some fresh air and watch the world go by for a while or maybe read a book you have always meant to read.

You are doing pretty well to keep drinking to 3 days and recognising that you can't let it control you keep your chin up mate don't be too hard on yourself and if you try that mushroom chocolate please do a topic on how it goes.💚

Weed=medicine
vs
Alcohol=poison

You already made it to the age of 70! How is your health holding up? Do you not feel ill or unwell the next day after drinking?
If I make it to 70 I will only want to do things that I enjoy and being sick from drinking too much is not on the list.

You only drink 3 nights a week that means you can go on without alcohol! Just push it a bit further if you really want to give it up you can!
It's all in your head you either love it or hate it. Try to think of all the bad things that come from it and try to start hating it instead of loving it.

For sleep there are very strong strains that will definatley put you to sleep even during the day. I would recommend my skywalker og for that.

At the end of the day it is all in your head. You just need to make up your mind how you want to spend your remaining years.

Thanks for your comments mate! Regarding my health I've been a heavy drinker for the past 40+ years. I have high tolerance. Plus I've always managed to balance it with a relatively healthy lifestyle. Yes I have mornings after where I feel like shit but I shake it off pretty quickly unless I've really gone overboard and drunk myself unconscious the night before. Even then I get over it ok. As for if I can go only three nights a week then I can go without totally the opposite is true. Drinking three nights a week is the only thing that helps me abstain the other four. I would drink every night rather than give up the three I have. I honestly don't want to come across patronising but I don't expect anyone not addicted to alcohol to understand. It's complicated.

I think it's a case of spending alot on some wpff hash from the hash collective. Smoke that on a bong and you won't feel the need for any more mate 👍✨ not for a good few hours. You won't leave the house mate. Dopeys sift from the whiskey weed messed me up in a similar way for cheaper. You could get some cheap hash and melt it in with oil and eat it. That wrecks you completely and works with the commercial hash too

Thanks mate. Truth is I just want something that will make me feel happy because nothing does. Beer, whisky, weed, I just feel miserable. I don't think there is an answer for me sadly. I envy people that have found the answer. I really do. Sorry to sound like a whining shit, I hate it, but it's just the way it is for me.

i think that looking for happiness in drugs, however safe/unsafe a particular substance may be, is highly unlikely to work. i'm presuming there's something deeper here that needs to be addressed. also binge drinking wrecks your body and mind, it's perhaps part of the problem at this point.

i hope you can find the answer. perhaps a good therapist could help you?

Thanks mate. Like I said I've tried many different antidepressants. Also had dynamic psychotherapy and CBT plus many sessions with psychiatrists. Nothing has made me feel better and a lot of it has made me feel worse. Personally I think my problem is down to physical trauma. I used to cycle commute to work and had a serious accident. Went over the handlebars at speed and hit the road head first. Had bad concussion. My problems started shortly after. Think frontal lobe damage was the cause. Sadly it's not like the TV where you mention it to the doc and they whip you in and sort you out. In reality they say "yes that's possible, let's try you on this pill you haven't tried yet". Sorry to sound cynical but it's born of hard experience.

I am an alcoholic. I don't drink now. That is the 1st and most important step to get rid of alcohol as it is the cause of all of that unwanted bad feeling. A known depressive that I've seen ruin many lives. If you can get off the booze and have a good strong dose of cannabis when needed then you will enjoy everything a bit better mate.

I can't imagine a world without drink. It's all I have to look forward to. Tried to replace it with weed but the buzz is not the same. I need the hit alcohol provides. Someone told me they add full spectrum oil to alcohol free beer. I've thought about it but have the alcoholic's fear that it won't work. So I stick with the booze.

Quiting booze is the only way forward. Me and a friend both nearly died from it. If you want to remove the devil in your mind then don't drink the devils piss ! I'm with you mate. I take sertraline to block things out and a.mitrazipine at night and it's like being a bit wobbly and sleepy. Both are anti depressants and it works for me. Well that and lots of weed you know 😄✨🤣 i have been at it 28 years trying to find the right combination of meds. So I thought I'd share. You are talking to a man who would drink at every hour of the day 24/7 vodka. I was an absolute mess mate. Hot me up for a chat any time

Cheers mate. I spent four years on Fluoxetine, then four and a half years on Sertraline, then the past ten years on Venlafaxine and Mirtazapine combined. The Mirtazapine with the booze helps me sleep. Well let's face it the combo knocks me out. I couldn't sleep without it. Life is shit. We all need whatever gets us through it.

Fuck the booze off then buy yourself a bloody great load of different strong bits of here. It will be like Christmas. Stink your house out and make yourself smile, get so wrecked you order to much Chinese and fuck it me old china pilate

Can you sleep ?

Only with booze combined with Venlafaxine and Mirtazapine. Otherwise I lie awake listening to the tinnitus screaming in my ears.

Personally, at the age of 53, I wouldn’t overstress about these things

When it’s not enough and you clearly know it, that’s your mind building a new pathway for what’s ahead

If you’ve used alcohol to escape stress or personal issues — fine. If cannabis helps in the same way — fine. If, at times, they both do — fine.

Because in the end, it’s not really about the alcohol or the cannabis. It’s about understanding yourself.

What tends to happen is this: as you become more self-aware, you naturally need less of both. The people who struggle are usually the ones who never stop to look inward — so they end up drinking more, smoking more, and going in circles.

So enjoy it. Have a drink. Have a smoke. Just don’t overdo it.

Deep down, you already know what’s right for you — that quiet voice doesn’t lie.

Take things day by day. If you’re on the right path, you’ll move forward. If you’re not, you’ll learn what you need to along the way.

Above all, look after yourself — and enjoy your life ❤️

Hi mate!

After you buy on an exchange, in your case coinbase, send it to a non custodial wallet like cake or exodus and then send it to a vendor. Hope that helps fella.

Dabman x

Fr this needs to be common knowledge

Thanks mate I'll try it. Just that I've ordered twice recently no problem. This whole bitcoin business is a pain in the arse. Just wonder if it's really necessary nowadays.

Very necessary fella,once you get the hang off it and done a couple more orders will be piss easy fella.

Dabman x

you poor thing

Sorry I didn't mean to hurt your feelings. I was drunk and feeling very depressed. Was looking for some release and ended up letting off steam. This site is actually great. Just hasn't worked for me recently but that's my problem.

no wux maybe just loosen the turban

I suffer greatly. I have a toxic family that doesn't help. Cut out the booze, start exercising and building from the inside. Weight training really helps me. You haven't messed up your life. Tomorrow is a new day. Small steps, little and often. Slowly, day by day you can build. You are not alone.

Thanks mate but tried it all. Managed to give up the booze for a year. Went to the gym four times a week, went swimming, did other shit. Made no difference. Ended up so suicidal my GP did an urgent referral to a psychiatrist. Still under their care and on the drugs they prescribed. Had already done four years on Prozac and four and half years on Sertraline before I saw them. Now been on "California Rocket Fuel" a combination of Venlafaxine and Mirtazapine for six years. Still depressed as fuck which is what has led me here. Considering microdosing shrooms next. Anything to provide some release.

Can't recommend microdosing because I haven't tried it but I know there are lots of studies going on.

I would recommend the Wim Hof method for you as I have to others. Look at any one of his you tube vids and check that comment section.

Ptsd, anxiety, depression, auto immune conditions, skeletal problems and many more suffering individuals are reaping the benefits of cold water therapy and some breathwork.

I started over a year ago and have witnessed the benefits first hand.

Say no to pharma
Get high on your own supply

It may seem patronising, I do not mean to be. I don't know what hardships you've had

Sometimes I have thought too that life can be shitty and wouldn't it be great to change it

often times we cannot

we can only change our perception. I have sometimes allowed the external pressure of life to take its control and impact my mood. I have recently become aware of the fact that everything in this world around us is actually within us and we are a part of all of it.

We use our senses to interact with the world around us. The experience of all of it is 100% an internal affair. We have the power to decide if that twat at work makes us angry. We can decide whether we allow that person or life situation to affect us. To give someone or something the power to affect us in such ways is slavery unto ourselves.

Don't listen to the voice in your head telling you your shit or life is shit. That voice is not you. You are deeper than that. If you look and leave all the shit outside the gate you may find the peace within you.

Cold showers, breathwork, meditation. That's my best advice. Hope it helps

All the best brother

Great advice ❤️

✌️❤️ junebug

Ohh mate, I hear you and been on most of these and some heavy pain stuff.

Everyone’s different, let’s get that out there. What works for some might not others, for me.

Outside of the advice and activities I’ve mentioned. I had to learn and read about how the brain works, how we manage our feelings and stuff. Some are boring but others can really help you visualise the demon AND understand yours and how to keep them at bay day at a time to slowly improve.

Change is hard and slow but never too late!

Mirtzapine was my final med before I was off them for good ( just weed, coffee and gaming now, and a good bit of porn).

It was a very hard journey, but set a written plan, have a wall of activities, some you’ll hate for the mood, some might work .

You’re a smart fella I’ve read most your posts, you got this.

Cbd weed is good too now, nice flavours and feeling without being baked.

Care looking at path of new drug to replace and fix issue, need to drill down and find your demon and it’s tactics to rid ❤️

I'm really sorry to hear that, man. I hope you at least get some respite this weekend. But, there are many of us here to listen. If your own cloud is grey, try to be a rainbow on someone else's... If I am unhelpable, then maybe I can help someone else. Wishing you well today.

We can highly recommend micro-dosing and have many clients that use it for depression. We know from personal experience shroomies help alot too. Only thing is with these kinds of meds is you cannot be taking any big pharma stuff or use alcohol in anyway. And as much as we love herb and believe in the power it has too, its better to use it when you're in a good mental state otherwise it could actually make things worse...that's our experience anyway.

Its best to not only rely on one thing like friends said here below...exercise..healhty diet...who you surround yourself with combined with the use of psychedelics is a good place to start :-) and of course then there is Ayahuasca...there are many tools but in the end its all about your will...you need to really want to change your life...own it and then things will start to change ;-)

Best of luck friend

Might sound silly to some, but do you game at all mate?

Age is irrelevant there’s a game for everyone ❤️

Online one would let you find little community too, and there’s always someone awake around the world to chill with.

Helps keep mind occupied on game, and then social elements too 👍

Only game I play is an MMO called World of Tanks. Been playing it off an on for ten years. Sometimes I can get lost in it, but it's become harder recently.

Ohhh nice did you ever check out the warship one?

I used to play a destroyer 💪

Never really appealed to me, not sure why. Just something about the tanks ticks the right boxes for me. 😊👍

Dude world of warships is so sick! not gonna lie, a friend of mine used to play this game and at a point he wanted to play with me together, I was instantly hooked by the game, it really is fun :)

Or you can lose yourself in 15hrs of techno and progressive on my Spotify playlist

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5h8gaFSmZgh1YDYm4M1jub?si=42479276977d4d9b

Would you like to try a guided meditation?

I can link a good one

Hello Khasi,
sorry to hear that you experience your life the way you do. Since we are not knowing each other we dont know in what kind of situation you are in and the way you got to this point of depression. We don’t recommend drug consume when feeling lonely or depressed since it is a devils circle which will make you even more mentally dependent. Life is not shit, life is your responsibility and what you make out of it. Most important thing is to distract yourself the right way, do sports and what you like and what you are passionate about,eat healthy, tomorrow you can always be the better version of the yesterday, every single day. Anyways we wish you just the best in coping with your depression, stay safe and feel hugged, you are not the only one suffering from depression.
<3

its hard to motivate exercise or even a walk when you feel like this but it has a better success ratio than weed when you are really in the hole mate.

jah bless.

Try find hobby, go outside try not to spend lots of time sitting home, riding bike helps me a lot

Fair point. One of the problems with depression is that it kills your motivation. It gets harder to get out and do new things. I walk my dog 4.5 miles a day and that does help. I used to cycle commute every day when I was working! But I'm 67 now and not in the best physical health.

I’m really sorry to hear that you are having a tough time. Depression is tough and especially when you’re having struggles with your health.

Trying to do what you can to be active is helpful, I found doing mindfulness pretty helpful. I was sceptical but found it pretty positive to take some time out and quiet the noise in your mind and also help you be a bit kinder to yourself.

I’m not sure self-medicating is easy to get right.

I find some kinds of weed helpful some have the opposite effect. Cbd can be good for anxiety and there seems to be a good amount of evidence that psilocybin can help with depression, whether that be the larger dose or micro. Whether that’s right for your situation I don’t know.

I hope that you find some way through things and manage to get into a more positive state of mind.

Eye of the tiger and all that jazz.

Thanks man for such a thoughtful comment. I agree self-medicating is a very inexact science and so easy to get wrong. That said, my own experience of how inexact medicating by professionals can be makes me think experimenting personally and following your instincts to try new things has the potential to lead you to positive outcomes.

Good point, I think you’re right.

Hi Khasi

I'm sorry to hear what you are going through.

If anything this thread is 40+ posts so you're not alone.

I went through this 6 years ago and it took a while for it to stop.

Now am wary of pharma treatments as I've seen several people get hooked without thier symptoms improving or going away.

What is more there is controversial evidence regarding Prozac possibly increasing suicidal thoughts:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluoxetine

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2000/may/22/drugs.uknews

If you can get hold of the latest New Scientist magazine there is an article about latest findings about depression and possible new treatments, I haven't bought it yet:

https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg25734220-100-fresh-ideas-about-the-causes-of-depression-are-bringing-new-treatments

Now there is plenty of good advice and supprt from nice biggas in this thread but I would offer a word of warning about mushrooms: do not use them on your own.

I do that myself but am a user with 25+ years of experience. They can send you to heaven but also to hell so do not try to self-medicate with psychedelics.

If you want to try them by any means try to join one of the experimental UK studies in a clinical setting with a medical professional.

I hope you do get better

Your not alone Khasi. I live in a caravan in a field in the middle of nowhere on my own. Not by choice but as a result of really painful split with the mother of my child who I still love and care for to this day. I suffer terribly with loneliness, self doubt and depression. 3 years on my own and I still don't feel independent or strong and at times I've wanted to give up. I get through it because I believe it will change and because I want to see my daughter grow up and be happy.
Drugging yourself does not make you happy. Booze makes you more sensitive and clouds your head, weed can make you overthink everything and while they may numb your pain and help you drop off it will wear off at about 3am and you'll wake up and be restless and feel depressed.
We all make mistakes in life, I know I have, but to forever see yourself in a bad light is harmful to you and others. I'm sure you've done some good things in your life, whether for yourself or helping others. Remember those things and give yourself some credit. Now plan to go and help someone, do a nice thing for somebody. They will see the real you and that is who they will remember. You will hopefully see a change in yourself when you feel appreciated. Happiness comes from what you give not what you get. Good luck my friend, Feel free to message via this post anytime. I'll always listen and help if I can :)

I just wanted to thank you for your comment LionOfJudah. I took a lot from it.

Bro/sis ur right life is shit!! But it can be better!!! Sometimes you just need to sit bk and reevaluate your life,goals,aspirations and see how you put the shit in a bag and in the bin.... there's always gonna be that bit shit in ur life its just how you deal with it that matters... my other half has depression and she has just recently started on a vape and it's changed her moods dramatically... I've never been a fan of doctors depression/mood medication as its all just basically shit... everyone's different bro try what natural medicine you can... its on this planet for a reason bro.... Best of luck to you ✌️✌️✌️

Are you a homeowner?

Yes mate. Still paying a mortgage till I'm 75 if I live that long.

Ever thought about selling up and moving somewhere cheaper or just going to do voluntary work in some hot country?

Maybe if I was younger mate but I'm 67. I wouldn't have the energy. Plus I have two kids and my house always remains their home for when they want to visit. And I'm still being treated for cancer so kind of want to stick with what I know if you know what I mean.

Sorry I forgot about that last bit.

No worries mate 👍

Hi Khasi

I didn't know you have cancer.

Hopefully you're one of those people who have a good loving relaitonship with their kids - hopefully.

Going back to the mushrooms if anything you might want to get in touch with the folks at the Imperial College London Psychedelic Research Centre - they are looking for participants for a microdoing clinical trial:

https://www.imperial.ac.uk/psychedelic-research-centre/trials/microdosing-study-20/

There is also one at King's College London:

https://www.kcl.ac.uk/research/psilocybin-in-depression-resistant-to-standard-treatments-psider-study

I'm not trying to tell you what to do but whatever you do do not take mushrooms on your own if you never had any.

💯

life is some journey. we probably do it to ourselves. choices and decisions old boy, bit of a buzz kill but do this = that. if i drink those beers (i drink) what is the likely result. hugs and uggs x

believe me I know mate. I have 67 years of choices, decisions and actions to mull over and regret. I've fucked my own life up, that's one thing I'm under no illusions about!

i've been in rehearsals (character development) 44 years.

Wish I could say it gets better. Hope it does for you mate.

Chin up, you sound like a good person, i've respect for my elders, some older folks are nasty and bitter.
I'm never lonely, was bitten by Christianity at a very early age and my faith keeps me going.
I was content and comfortable with the thought of physical death as early as my late teens /very early twenties.
This life is just a ride.💫🙏

this bigga

thank you mate, i feel life is getting better. rolling this nice j

You sound like a fellow thesp! Go theatre!

Try and be more positive man, you can't change yesterday, but tomorrow is always better!

67 years young. There is always time to change. Remember to use 'up to now' more because forever is a long time!

Just come back to this thread I started probably three or four years ago. Been interesting reading through some of the great and helpful advice I was given. Don't even know if those people are still active on here but if they are thanks again guys. All these years on I'm still depressed and lonely but reading through your comments really gave me an unexpected lift. Making even online contact with strangers can be really helpful. Bottom line is we're social creatures and we all benefit from connecting somehow.

I've only just found this thread. I'm 25 and feel exactly how you do, I've been out of work for the past year and don't see a life past when my parents are gone, they're my everything.
Reading these posts from so many people do help to know I'm not alone. I'm really trying to get back to work. I want to work in my head and something just stops me. I worked for 6 years before my depression got really bad and I now just don't see a way back. I don't really know what I'm trying to say but thanks for creating this thread because I wouldn't have said this otherwise

you are not alone but you are brave and caring and that's why you will overcome this challenge

So sorry to hear of your struggles mate. Stay strong. Things might look bleak now but you can overcome them and things can get better. My personal advice is at all costs avoid dwelling on negativity. I know how easy it is to slip into that trap. Find a diversion, any diversion, that will take you away from that mindset. Just remember your life is important and people close to you love you. You mean a lot to them. Sorry, didn't mean to lecture you. I'm no expert, just someone that has hit bottom myself but knows that there is always a way out. I'm happy to talk more if it would help. Take care my friend.

It doesn't make much sense to me to lace a product with mdma, I don't know the street value of shrooms vs mdma but I can't imagine the latter being so considerably cheaper that it is worth tarnishing a product for profit.

I also can't imagine a micro dose of MDMA being that bad for your depression? Maybe don't yam the whole bar but have a nibble and see how you feel. Mandy gave me some of the best times of my life but yeah what goes up must come down.

I imagine staring at it wondering what if will be just as bad as giving it a bite. Sorry if this is the wrong advice, not a medical expert.

Thanks a lot my friend. I understand what you're saying and totally get it. I'll take it easy and see what happens

The photo of that test kit is weird as a Control line plus a Test line should mean it's positive, and a Control line and no Test line should mean negative. No Control line and the test is invalid. So, that suggests that the bar contains loads of drugs.

User error seems more likely than that, surely?

I gave a few of these bars to a mate ages ago and he saw lizard people after eating a bar once. Probably wasn't the best idea for him to keep eating whole bars and hiding in his shed so his family didn't know he was tripping... His only complaint was that they weren't that strong.

Agreed that it's user error but the photo of the test clearly shows that Test+Control lines means negative, Control line alone is positive and any other variation is void. It just depends how that particular brand of test is calibrated.

As with any line based test ANY visible line is considered valid so technically all of them are negative although THC is probably verging on positive and detecting very faint residuals.

Also, if it was positive for MDMA I'd expect to see much fainter lines on the MET and AMP lines. These will almost always cross-react with MDMA metabolites in these tests as they are chemically very similar.