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BigRoo
by  BigRoo
Organic Origins - Cheese & Miami Yayo
LB Made Me Do It

I'm writing this up after a reviewer on the page of the new(ish) vendor, Organic Origin, was heckled about their opinion of a sample pack. I was mentioned in the comments as the sort of fella who could cast an unbiased opinion. So that's how we got here and that's what I intend to do. I've not done a weed review for a while but I'll do my best.

Please Don't Doubt Me

Before we start I'd like to make it very clear that I also have been sent a review sample but I would not write a single positive word about it unless I truly believed it. Please do not for one minute doubt what my integrity means to me. It is definitely not for sale. At least not for a bag of cheese.

Vendor Comms

It's hard for me to know the level of communication a customer might receive but the vendor was responsive to my messages and they seemed like a friendly sort in our short exchange of words.

Postage

I was sent the tracking details upon the parcel being posted. This is fairly rare from vendors but it's a nice touch. The parcel arrived within 24 hours so I didn't actually need them but it's nice to know that I'd not have had to chase the vendor should RM do their famous parcel dance.

Packaging and Stealth

The packaging was stealthy as fuck. Obviously it does no one any favours to specifically detail any vendors stealth methods but I can assure you this was once - twice - three times - a stealthy parcel. In terms of being both smell-free and tamper-proofed it was pretty much as good as it gets.

Delicate Buds

However the one niggle is that both buds were a little squared off. This wasn't major but one side was clearly impacted by the box or packing. They were not vacuum crushed like some you get which seem to have suffered a pressure implosion like an experimental submarine filled with millionaires, but the buds did look like your least favourite uncle had sat on them. They may well have entered the postal system in perfect condition and got bashed about or just been tight in the multi-packaging.

That's possibly one of the many reasons why the shaved pebble style of buds - which pack and travel easier - have become so popular. Some of the modern rock solid buds could be used to hammer fence nails in and still have bag appeal afterwards.

A Shame But Not A Huge Problem

These buds are clearly more delicate than the furry rocks as they've followed a more natural growing process. Neither of the buds were so compressed that it was actually a problem. It was just a shame that they'd not travelled perfectly as they clearly had a lot of care prior to starting their journeys. This has been equally true of purchases from other niche / smaller growers before too.

I'll put some photos below so you can see for yourselves what I'm trying to explain.

Cheese Origins

Those of us oldies who remember the original old cheese may need to take a deep breath, have a little moment of reflection, and finally let it go.

I doubt we'll ever find a cheese grown from seed that matches it. The original cheese was grown from a random skunk seed that happened to be a bit of a rogue. Then it was repeatedly cloned.

Everyone Had It

Seemingly pretty much every grower ended up with a cheese clone for a period of time. Compared to the generic street weed of the era it was a total revolution.

Absolute Stinker

The first cheese I picked up stunk out an entire train carriage and I sat there nervously hoping the old bill weren't going to step on at the next station and nick me for it. I'd done the same trip many times but this was the first time I stank out the train. The cheese era had started. I needed Tupperware.

Benchmark

I don't think a modern version, even if it was a near perfect copy of the original, would stand out in the same way.

Where it was once the stinkiest weed we'd ever had, we have now all had many other tasty and stinky bits to compare it to.

So I shall try not to harshly benchmark it against my own nostalgia. I honestly recommend we all let go of the past and do the same. Not just with the weed.

Cheese - In The Bag

https://littlebiggy.org/link/H1EDzt

Woah. That was a long intro huh.

I have had the bag of OO's cheese open in front of me while I wrote that. I can definitely smell it. And it's definitely a sweetened skunky, cheesy, old school aroma. Smell-wise it is recognisable to me as a cheese. But yes, probably not 'that' cheese with a visible smell trail leading down the street like the old bisto gravy adverts.

The Buds

The buds are carefully trimmed. It's got a little stickiness to it but it's not in any way damp. The biggest bud stem snapped upon pressure immediately as it's been properly dried and cured so the buds are evened out. It looks to me like a lot of love went into the production of this bud.

In The Grinder

It churns into nicely ground crumbs that are a little sticky with resin. It grinds cleanly leaving nothing sticking to the grinder teeth. A definite cheesey smell is released during the process too.

Consumption

As I currently only dry herb vape buds I am testing it in my Arizer Solo 2. I've written a couple of previous posts about stopping smoking joints so I won't rabbit on about it here.

Old School

The cheese immediately reminds me a bit of a 1990s Amsterdam coffee shop - oddly not a place I've ever had cheese. It has something of that old school quality about it though. Perhaps as it's a fresh and resinous skunk.

The weed demanded a slightly higher temperature than I generally set the vape at but released clouds of tasty vapour after I'd tinkered with it.

Skunky & Smiley

It's very skunky which is to be expected considering it is essentially a skunk but it definitely has the sweeter note you'd expect from a cheese. It hits with an initial fast rising high that's gently followed up with a more sedated but smiley stone.

I'm Blaming LB

I usually hit a couple of dabs after work but this would not have made it a fair test so I've parked my rig up.

I am pleasingly stoned from my first vapes full of cheese. But because this is a test for you lovely LB folk I'll blast another couple now to see if what I've written above feels correct. You people force me into this. Honestly you do.

More Hits

As I was swabbing the glass vapour tube clean and reloading I noticed a bit more stone creeping up on me from the first lot. That's a welcome bonus.

After round two I'm predictably much more stoned. Again I found it to be a skunky old flavour and again the initial hit was sudden enough to get my attention.

Is It Like The Original Cheese?

We've been over this earlier haven't we? No! No, it's not exactly like the original cloned cheese that only exists in our memories and is now seemingly impossible to buy.

But it is recognisable as a cheese and it is a lovely old school sweet skunky flavour and buzz. I just popped out and upon my return the first smell I noted in my house was of cheese. It wasn't as badly pungent as that train carriage from years ago but it still clinches it for me; it is recognisable as a cheese. But it is not time machine cheese.

Conclusion

I like it. I've sat here blazing through a few vapes and I'm really enjoying it. It's a really nicely balanced blast from the past. It's actually stronger than the other weed I've got in my jar currently which is a more modern pebble type bud. It's quite likely stronger than much of the mass grown cheese from back in the day despite not having the same pungent smell.

So yes, it's hard for me to really pick any fault with it other than a very minor gripe about how well it travels. If I'd bought this personally I'd have been pretty happy with it.

Miami Yayo

https://littlebiggy.org/link/r1lWzp

The name of this initially excited me as I thought it'd be related to the Miami Mami which is an orange leaning bud. However, according to the internet, it's not.

The Miami Yayo parentage is two other stand alone strains: Collins Ave and Medallin, neither of which I've had before. So the Yayo puts me in the unusual position of not having a reference in my internal knowledge bank for how it might taste. I guess there's only one way to find out what it's like.

In The Bag

In the bag it's got a familiar sharp note along the citrus lines but not into my favoured orange territory for sure. It's sad but I can tell an orange bud from twenty feet away. This is a flavour I know though. I just can't place it yet.

The buds, like the cheese, are grown perfectly well. It's dried and cured nicely too.

In The Grinder

The smell is very familiar but I still can't immediately place it. It's got a hint of RS11 but it's nowhere near that full, sweet or wide ranging. Maybe it's a little like the OZK. That's closer. But not right. There's definitely a lemonadey high note. Actually I think it's like the core flavour note of a Sunset Sherbet. I think that's the overriding initial smell. So not exactly a sweetshop flavour but some hints of that. It's the sickly sweet lemonade notes I'm picking up on.

Consumption Test

In the vape it has the sickly sour lemon flavour of a sunset but also hints of mint like a cookies strain and some gas pushing it all through. It's not citrus like the lemon hazes as it's more sickly sour.

Thick Clouds

The vapour clouds are thick and flavoursome. It chugs and hits like a modern strain compared to the much simpler cheese. Effects are more easily delivered as it's more complexly mixed than the cheese too. So the initial hit is gentler with a friendly sedation following along. It's an easy buzz to bob along with. It's not weaker. It just arrives less suddenly which I know some folks prefer.

Miami Yayo Verdict

I like this. It's got an interestingly complex sickly lemonade flavour and a gently creeping stone that feels like it's your friend. I'd buy this again. More so than the cheese.

To Sum Up

I honestly can't really fault either of the buds I've tested here. I've really enjoyed them both. They're grown well and trimmed up nicely. They smoke cleanly and deliver a great blend of flavour and strength. They seem fairly priced and while I can't judge the sales process, the comms and packaging were all on point too.

That's My Opinion

I was asked by more than one person on the original thread for my opinion and so this was it. You may not agree, and please feel free to open that discussion below, but still I stand by this being an accurate description of my experience getting these buds from Organic Origin and testing them this evening in my vape.

Thanks For Reading

As always thanks for reading my topic. I hope it was informative and if not I hope it was entertaining in some way.

Please feel free to jump into the discussion below and let us know your thoughts.
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BigRoo
Miami Yayo / Cheese photos. The photo at the bottom shows the buds slightly compressed in transportation. Like I said, a minor thing, but I was trying to detail everything due to the nature of the review.
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aliblaba888
Very comprehensive review. I belive the issues with this vendor aren't actually about the product itself, but the vendors comms- basically anything doesn't write go right he goes full aggresor, foul mouthed swearing, even sending threatening dms to me and another. I reported these completely out of order actions... ✌️
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Jcbus
Yeah, he's not done himself any favours, but fingers crossed it's a lesson learnt for the vendor, let the flower talk for you.
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BigRoo
Hopefully they'll have listened to your previous advice. It looks brutal for a new vendor so I can see why they'd get upset but it's definitely not the reputation to build up. For this sort of trade we need to know the vendor can keep a cool head.
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BigRoo
I hadn't seen any of that going on. I just thought I'd give them and their weed a fair shot.
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Comfortablenumb
Hey BigRoo, good to see a write up mate.
I am starting to believe as I get older that all of the memories of amazing weed are just a combination of nostalgia and group hysteria enhanced through a lack of experience at the time.
Whether its the first thing that gets you really stoned or the weed you smoked on a really good night, it just gets enhanced in our memories until it reaches that unachievable level that we spend the rest of our days in search of.
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BigRoo
Thanks man. Yeah there's certainly an element of that. The past is rose tinted. If I was to score the first skunk that absolutely put me on my arse on my first trip to Amsterdam, it'd likely be a very average weed now. I might like the nostalgia. In fact I'd be interested to see a niche grower do a skunk #1 using a modern grow. But I doubt it'd put me on my arse again. Apparently my hallowed original 'dam orange bud that was once a mainstay of all the coffee shops isn't that orange compared to stuff like Mimosa or Superboof. I've not been out there in years though. I almost don't want to discover that for myself.
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Comfortablenumb
I tried a few times to grow a tasty orange bud but none were anything like my memory of it.
I press everything now so the modern strains seem more productive for rosin, I just keep going for indica leaning hybrids.

I would be tempted to do a pheno hunt if I had unlimited room, I think I would probably go for a Hindu kush but a skunk#1 would be nice to try.
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BigRoo
I'd like to have a grow setup but it's definitely not practical for my current situation. I think I'd have fun with it.

I had a white widow a while back that was absolutely lovely. I've seen some pretty expensive Blueberry listed on LB recently. It's over my price point but I was still tempted for sake of curiosity. For a long time it was the ultimate flavour back in the day. Although it wasn't super strong by today's standards.

I was looking at hair straightener presses on YouTube the other day. I've got a few small random bits of hash leftover and I thought about pressing them as I can't practically vape them. I don't actually have any hair straighteners but figured FB marketplace or somewhere would have a cheap used set. Not sure if it's worth it as a project or not.
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Comfortablenumb
If you ever get the chance to run a grow, go for it. I spend way too much time staring at my plants it becomes an obsession.

I ran a nice blueberry a few years ago which had that really fruity blue flavour but I haven't tried it again, there are too many options and I like variety so I rarely grow anything more than a couple of times.

As for the hash I would say decarb it and whack it in some cookies, hash rosin from old hash is usually black and gloopy, it makes good edibles but doesn't taste nice to dab. If you have fresh wpff or static you can get some nice rosin but I wouldnt risk it in hair straighteners.
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BigRoo
I'd love to do a grow but it'd be asking for trouble here. One of my neighbours used to have a setup years ago. I remember watching out the window as it took old bill about six hours to clear it all out. You could smell it in the next street over.

I might make hash cookies then. Why do you need to decarb it? Doesn't that happen in the baking process?
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Comfortablenumb
Yeah, thinking about it the cooking process will probably decarb it enough, it is a short amount of heat but the higher temp will counter that.
I put all my edible materials into oil so decarb is just part of the process to get rid of any water.

I have actually been thinking about making some edibles up to sell as I am building up quite a stock of canna-oil and have been testing a few recipes, no idea how to work out what strength they are though, I don't really use them much myself but I produce quite a lot of oil with all of my rosin pucks and trim so I need to do something with it.
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BigRoo
You can buy a THC tester thing that connects to a phone or laptop. Not sure on the price but it'd be an interesting thing to own. I guess if you were selling you could make the price make more sense than to a casual user. Not least to make sure your products were benchmarked correctly.

However, edible sellers seem to get the hardest time on here so I guess it's down to how much of that you want to deal with.

It's be nice to have a weed based sideline I've got to admit but I don't think customer services would be my strongest point. Some of the complaints I see on LB are valid but many sit the wrong side of batshit crazy. I'd struggle with that.

If you go forward with it give me a shout. I'll happily be a tester.
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Comfortablenumb
I definitely don't think I could be a full time vendor but maybe do some batches or seasonal drops. I don't think I could justify buying a tester it would probably be cheaper to just put out a few free samples for reviews and opinions, I will definitely give you a shout if I do
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BigRoo
Let me know mate. I'd be interested how they turned out. I only ever make cookies now since I screwed up the chocolate bars a while back. Cookies I've got dialled. Well, Aunt Bessie has.
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aliblaba888
Don't forget tolerance
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sebwar420
Always like your topics, Fair Play for review 🙃🙃
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BigRoo
Thanks man. I like writing them. I should put more time aside to do more.
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sebwar420
Go for it Bud ✈️
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BigRoo
I don't consume as much weed now. I've just sat down to have a quick blast and I've got the dab rig ready and iced it up. I love that thing. I'll blast a few of them before sitting back and switching to my dhv to chill.

So I've a different and much lighter routine now. However it seemed people were pretty receptive to this topic so maybe I should aim for more regular contributions. I'm still a fair judge of weed flavour and quality but I mostly wrote up the cheese / Miami as there was a reviewer who'd been given a hard time. To me it felt unfair so I got a bit involved in the convo and then a handful of people nominated me to write something conclusive about the weed. Which was genuinely carefully grown and well cared for and trimmed. The vendor may have deserved a few choice words for some.of.their previous conduct but the weed itself was bang-on for an natural organic grow.

I did enjoy picking through the Miami as it didn't exactly sit in an obvious flavour box. A little bit like when I first got Gary Payton or the very original New York Diesel and struggled to place its lineage. I'll look forward to what they grow next.

I kept the last little bit of Miami back to enjoy over a weekend. Was a genuinely nice smoke.
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BobDobbs
I got the Dream Bros “Old Amsterdam” last week on my hols in Zandvoort. (Yanks coffeeshop, if you are visiting)

The bloke behind the counter called it cheese. He gave me a pen to label it cheese. It was Skunk #1. Like the olden days. It was nice that despite the branding. We both knew what it was.

It wasn’t cheese. It was a 1995 Skunk #1 at best. Which in itself was nice. The closest you’ll get to a Skunk #1 in Amsterdam, now.

Is a “cheese”. Ironically, a bad cheese can also be a very good, and old #1 cut in Dam.

I chase that. I’m weird.

But I also save up for the best of the best modern stuff.

Cheese is a weird one. It’s an era. More than a strain that still exists at this point.

I just remember it as a slightly stronger skunk, to be honest. Nobody really cared back then in the UK unless they went to the Dam.

We kinda let the soundsystems do their thing. Invent shit. 🤷‍♂️

Everyone was busy inventing cool shit, way before the internet.

All we had was shit Thai brickweed and fluffy pollen and soapbar back then.

Literally anything was better than that. Call it what you want. We wanted people to invent shit.

Then there was the Skunk #1

Amsterdam suddenly became all about grass. Not hasj.

And it was a golden age, honestly, in that town in the early 90’s

You got the righteous skunk. Then popped off down the RLD to get the brown disco biscuits and microdots.

A golden age.

I remember being slightly disappointed by Cheese.

These were the days when you went to Amsterdam, you got obliterated. Because at home, what you could get, was toilet.

Nowadays the weed is better in the UK.

Back to Cheese.

It’s a nice pheno of Skunk. Perhaps one of the few surviving mongrel landrace crosses.

Durban Poison is still about.

The one I’m interested in is the F1 Durb that made Cookies.

When you get a good one, it cuts right through.
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sebwar420
F1 skunk 🦨😅 and Durban one of the coolest smokes ever, mobedick as well, so good to read there's loads old-school stoners here, keep up with those posts.
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BigRoo
I haven't been out to Dam for nearly twenty years now. Oddly the last time I went it was heading towards the end of an era there anyway. I've been told that most the shops are chains now and there's been an upmarket move in general. I'll have to take another trip out one day.

The skunk sounds like a winner man.

I've never come across the F1 Durban for sale. I've seen Durban Poison on LB before but it sells out fast and I've never bought any.
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BobDobbs
I think you’d enjoy a trip to Haarlem, or even Zandvoort, on the coast. It’s lovely there.

As people I know in Scheidam rightly say, Amsterdam is Disneyland. Nobody goes there.

The only place I know I can get proper Durban is the man with the medicine (not here) Spacemen had a very nice one for a while, but then everyone wanted Z. So it disappeared.

Scheidam is another place I’d recommend.

The home of Dutch Jeniver. The bit of Rotterdam they forgot to bomb.
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BigRoo
I guess like many tourists forget the UK isn't just London, I forget that Holland is larger than the Dam. I've been to a small coastal town near to the hook before but it was like.34 years ago. Was called something like skavenhagen. The odd thing was when I got chatting to the guy who ran the little coffee shop there, it turned out I knew his brother. The world is often smaller than you expect.
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BobDobbs
Honestly. It is.

The futher back you go, the smaller it gets, I also find 🙂
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BobDobbs
Honestly, I come here for these BigRoo writeups.

Eloquent as always. I see.
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BigRoo
Thanks man. Rambling on forever as always, dunno about eloquent.
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Jcbus
"You people force me into this. Honestly you do."

Sorry, not sorry.

Great write up Roo, as always :) the photos look good, OO gave you a generous sample too, very good of him
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BobDobbs
I highly doubt this man has refused a spliff passed to him 🤣

“No, no ossifer, they made me”
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Jcbus
Yeah, it's shocking how everyone around Roo forces him to smoke :(
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BigRoo
Exactly. Probably would work for NASA or somewhere if it wasn't for all the bad influences forcing me to be a massive stoner. I'd be in space. Not spaced.
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BobDobbs
🤣
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BigRoo
I'm just trying to get by while the world is set to corrupt me man.
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BobDobbs
Well. I’m on your side if there is anything you need.
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BigRoo
Exactly. It was everyone's else's fault but mine!

Thanks man. I messaged OO. The way I write all of my reviews is to take notes on an initial session, then I write it up into something close to proper English during a second session, and polish it on a third. The next day I blast a bit more while I read through to see if it rings true of what I'm consuming. That's how they end up the way they do - and probably why they're so long. I genuinely go through a fair bit of weed in my review process as I sort of proof-smoke as I go through it. By the end I'm usually pretty sure I mean what I'm saying.

That's my process. If it was a 1g sample I could still probably tell if it was good or shit but I'd not have the time to get thoughtful or passionate about it.
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BobDobbs
…. Taking notes.

I just blurt it all out 🤣
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BigRoo
That's how I start all my writing projects. Thoughts, feelings, senses, memories - I just note it down. Even if it doesn't make sense I have a starting point based on my instincts.
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BobDobbs
I love that you treat Littlebiggy as a writing project.

That gives me such faith in the human race, you don’t even know.

🥹

Hence the Burroughs - although him and his mates would have just fed a roll of paper into a typewriter and blasted ahead.

I guess Burroughs took to that with scissors, shuffled it all up, and , some say, made it worse 🤣

I think it made it better. Personally. But we can have a convo about the beats sometime else I guess.

Kerouac was an expert typer.

Burroughs was better without even trying. I guess.

Some blokes going on a road trip, VS a complete, horrific universe, which actually tells the story of America at that time.

I mean. I love them all. But does anyone read Kerouac now?

Burroughs invented modern horror. Much like Cronenberg did. But without Burroughs. There would be no The Thing.

I kinda liked Kesey. 🤷‍♂️

I wish he’d written more books.

Too busy deifying Neil Cassady. Who was a bit of an annoying fucking knob.

“Shut the fuck up Neil. You’ve told us this story 50 times already”

What a bore 🤣
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BigRoo
I do my notes and generally do my LB write ups on my phone. I went to proper typewriter (actual typewriters back then) lessons though when I was about 18 so I can fast touch type no matter how much drugs or alcohol I've had. If I can think it I can type it. Even if I can't actually focus on the words I can still type. I'm many years sober now from the drink but I actually used to write articles in that state. It was Kerouac I'd always had in mind when I decided to learn how to type properly. However now I'm actually looking at a bigger writing project I'm working on it completely differently. It's more like architecture. It's built up from layers. Erm... Actually, maybe it's more like an onion.
+2
BobDobbs
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